FlyingIron Simulations P38L Lightning PREVIEW! - MSFS 2020

An early look at FlyingIron Simulations new P38L Lightning in the sim, how does she shake out ahead of release?
(Note, this was provided as a media copy, my views are my own and unbiased by this fact)
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[@thomaslee1982]

My grandfather flew a P38 in the Pacific theater of WW2. Talking about flying this bird was about the only thing I ever saw bring a smile to his face. He couldn't even fly G>A. aircraft after flying this because he said they were like flying paper airplanes after the P38.. Cool video!

[@AvAngel]

I bet! its like going from an F1 car to a compact.

[@NikolaiYlirotu]

What is G>A ?

[@thomaslee1982]

@@AvAngel Yes! Great analogy

[@thomaslee1982]

@@NikolaiYlirotu *typo* Should read G.A. for General Aviation

[@NikolaiYlirotu]

@@thomaslee1982 thank you for your answer

[@090giver090]

The fact that we're getting more and more good planes for MSFS brings joy to me, but not to my wallet (

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Dive recovery flaps not turn flaps and they were used to pull out of a dive from compressibility stalls. Prior to dive recovery flaps being fitted, aircraft were lost due to loss of elevator control in high speed dives which is simulated with this model if in a dive at high speed.

[@AvAngel]

They’re also defined as turning in the manual, I’m not an expert on type

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@AvAngel there are maneuvering flaps but those are not the dive recovery flaps. Maneuvering flaps are just the first notch of flaps.

[@AvAngel]

Dur I’m an idiot! Thanks!

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

They do help in turns though, even though that isn't the main purpose.

[@FlightSimHistorian]

One of my friends' grandfather was a P-38 ace in the Pacific Theater of WW2, with 10 aerial victories.

[@ThirtyOddOne]

A friend of my grandpa was shot down in his P-38 and captured, the more amazing part was the Luftwaffe heard some American pilots were captured and helped to get their fellow pilots released.

[@1darkthought]

This is my second favorite vintage aircraft. My first favorite is the Grumman Goose. I wish there was a payware version of that one.

[@AvAngel]

Me too!

[@natedogg7376]

So true! I do like the Widgeon though.

[@TickleFight94]

Woohoo, just released today so probably another 4 weeks to marketplace (PC) and another 10 weeks to Xbox. I wish I was joking 😩, but honestly stoked for this one. Good review!

[@AvAngel]

Thanks!

[@sweet.dreams]

i just bought the p-38 today and put about 2 hours fly time on it - its awesome specially the sounds - thought i would get max performance and emptied all but 2 tanks and ended up running out of full for the first time in the sim, its a gas guzzler for sure - i just love those allison engines, look and sound amazing just like in real life - thanks for the review as i learned a few things like where was the tablet

[@crunchieRL]

A fantastic project with the depth I, for one, have been waiting for. Something for us DCS fans and on the shopping list come payday. Oh and a great review once again - clear and good depth,

[@KatherineCracks]

I flew one of these beautiful birds from Halifax Nova Scotia to Duxford Cambridge following the Greenland, Iceland, UK route and I loved every second of it and when I got the chance I always said yes to flying it This is a really amazing looking plane for the sim, it put me right back in the cockpit. Smelling the smells, the feel of the fabrics and those dials are gorgeous it really is extremely good. The sounds are amazing, they sound just right and with the windows closed it really does sound like your sitting there with your headset on ready to go. I’m super impressed Flight characteristics looked bang on, this is one of those planes you fly and your asking yourself. How did it do that? This is a big ass plane, she’s a big girl, a beautiful big girl but she flies like aircraft half her size and she turns oh baby does she turn. There are some ingenious engineering solutions in this plane and it’s a cool read Very fair rating, it’s not perfect but it’s damn close agree with Rachael 100% Love you Rachael

[@dillank3240]

What a great comment!

[@1darkthought]

Another fun fact about this plane, in a combat dive it could reach the speed of sound, and the air shockwave would actually lock the rudder making it RIDICULOUSLY hard to pull out of that dive

[@AvAngel]

That's why they added the turn flaps I believe.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You mean elevator ;)

[@1darkthought]

@@thecorporatepilotdad that too

[@davidgiles9751]

It would be nice to see some of those convenience features add to the FlyingIron Spitfire as well.

[@Panfilo2]

I was just thinking about the AP, I'll not use it when not needed but its great for getting a coffee and not having to pause the game. Super small thing but it is nice.

[@bricesonc]

I never pre order anything, but if this were available for pre order, I would in a heartbeat. She's fucking GORGEOUS!!!! I'm in love. Thank you for this preview.

[@bricesonc]

By the way, there is no spare room there. :D That's the armor. :D (I'm playing, not trolling) Love your videos!

[@340ACP]

Fantastic airplane, cannot wait to fly it! Thanks for the review

[@rolanddutton4723]

The sound... oh my! I wasn't crazy about their Spit but this looks and sounds amazing. I'm probably being totally OCD but I wish they'd modeled the spinning blades on the supercharger. Such a cool little feature.

[@oldandconfusedinflorida1802]

Such a beautiful bird! My favorite other than the F4U Corsair. Just gorgeous lines and such a workhorse. Thank you for flying this beauty for us

[@WhiskyCanuck]

One of my favourite planes reading about them as a teenager, so it's highly probably that I'll get this. One of these days I expect someone to add Tetris to that tablet - for those boring longhaul flights!

[@volkerjansen3901]

Thank you for this beautiful review! So many interesting historical planes being released at the same time … I loved their Spitfire, except for the tricky takeoffs. This plane looks even better, and a lot easier to get off the ground 😂

[@AvAngel]

handling is a doddle!

[@belgeode]

Yeeeeep!! THIS is the one I have been waiting for! 😁

[@captaincrash9286]

FlyingIron knocked it out of the park with the Spitfire IX, I'm really looking forward to this. Good review as ever, though I'm always distracted by how much you sound like Debbie Aldridge (Tamsin Greig) from The Archers!

[@manic_miner]

I love your videos so much AvAngel. Your passion and enthusiasm for flying and the sound of those engines is infectious! You're definitely one of the best reviewers out there! Thank you :)

[@AvAngel]

Thanks Silentgamer!

[@thecircusfreak5364]

Hey AvAngel, little suggestion… you should do DCS content if that’s at all interesting to you. You have a fantastic, professional presentation and a laid back style. I know that community would enjoy your perspective - there’s no one quite like you in that community.

[@AvAngel]

Not really a combat sim person honestly TheCircus Freak, maybe one day, but as it stands it's just never really been a thing for me.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

It's totally amazing even if you don't do combat. Especially the flight physics of helicopters are unparalleled. And since there's that "try every module for 2 weeks each" thing, you even could check it out for free.

[@Faye-9896]

I just got this and I adore it this is such a beast of a aircraft

[@belgeode]

I agree on the views. This is one of those birds that definitely benefits from VR. Cannot see the boost pumps otherwise. Lol. Definitely looking forward to flying this puppy around Papua New Guinea tonight! Thanks as always for the first look!!

[@kalenmiller5787]

The views are there already, just a bit tricky to cycle (depending on mappings), need to go to main panel close view and then hit left or right to cycle down into the side views. :)

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

This airplane is great in VR! I have done so with this model and it’s awesome.

[@richardsuttill54]

Great review of a quality product made with passion. I am going to wait for a English Electric Lightning though :-)

[@mikecoffee100]

Looks Fab so far hopefully the improvments will make it better and always Good Vids

[@MetalMilitiaMan87]

Oh wow I love that Overlord livery. Can’t wait for it to be released on the marketplace

[@stefanblackadder5236]

I bought this, happy. I want this developer to do a DH Mosquito!

[@AvAngel]

God same!

[@philipwilson4671]

Thank you for another incredible video. I had the opportunity to sit in a P-38 a few years ago and took a bunch of pictures. Climbing all over the wink was pretty cool and seeing the turbo-superchargers in person was amazing. I'll be adding this to my collection.

[@daabbett1600]

as this aircraft has just made over to the dark side, revisited your review. 9 Av`s indeed

[@ChuckOwl]

Interesting review, AvAngel! I have a few questions since I really love that plane and I'm curious to hear your input on some aspects of the simulated plane. -What did you think of the systems under the hood? -Did you try jamming flaps or landing gear with overspeeding? -Are there any dynamic or toggle-able malfunctions available? -How's the handling of the plane with a single engine failure?

[@AvAngel]

Firstly systems are good, reasonably easy To manage but with enough to be interesting, though no persistence per say Didn’t try jamming the flaps or gear sorry Standard sim malfunctions exist also engine damage and loss with effects is built in Single engine is good when feathered, contra rotating props make it rather yaw free and it’s even reported to be able to take off single engine

[@SparkySven]

Like your reviews a lot. I have this plane on release and it’s fantastic. Please do a external view and focus on exhausts when starting the engines and see the flames and big white puff of smoke after successful engine start. Now that’s a wow moment that you will repeat all day I guarantee it ;-)

[@AvAngel]

I’d like to but no idea how to get external while I’m flicking switches and timing buttons, it’s quite involved to start

[@SparkySven]

@@AvAngel once your have flown on tarmac I turn magneto's off with my Honeycomb Alpha yoke key. And turn them on and start with same key while in external view. It's very impressive and the big puff of white smoke the floats with the wind away. It's a must see

[@chrisfox9492]

Great preview being informative and entertaining

[@WardogDCS]

Holy hell. I knew i recognized a familiar voice from the FSEconomy days of long ago. Long time no chat, Rach ! Ahh, soo this is what you’ve been up to these days !

[@AvAngel]

Joseph! Long time no see! Yes! Well for The last year at least I have 😀

[@WardogDCS]

@@AvAngel well, since your a big, badass youtuber now, does one have a discord. Have ALOT to catch up on. Hope you and the wookie have been doing well ! XD

[@MojaveHigh]

You know you've made it when you start getting preview copies!

[@AvAngel]

I guess! It was very kind of them.

[@SewerShark]

I would love to see more Classic Plane developers adding optional g1000 or similar to their aircraft. I for one still don't know how to navigate using VOR stations, and having a GPS, although unrealistic, would be a blessing.

[@otterspocket2826]

It sounds like you need a 'must have' aircraft WITHOUT a g1000 or similar. You'll learn VOR navigation soon enough with the right incentive.

[@AvAngel]

A G1000 in this would be cancerous.

[@SewerShark]

I think I misspoke. Not a g1000 but a Garmin or something.

[@Derpy-qg9hn]

VOR, ADF etc. isn't all that hard to use. Just pick two beacon frequencies (make sure they're close together on your map), measure heading to one and draw a line from it of the opposite heading, repeat for the other beacon. Your location will be at the intersection of these two lines.

[@kevin1873]

Definitely enjoy your vids. Just a tip, definitely pick up a Track IR system with the pro clip. It will immensely change your MSFS experience for the better and you'll wonder how you ever flew without it. It will also make these videos easier for you to record.

[@AvAngel]

I would love to but they're either out of stock or stupid expensive.

[@Stwutter1973]

Great review. War stuff isn't really my thing, but may well drop the £££s for this.

[@grahamr8930]

Those under wing flaps your talking about aren't for maneuvering , there actually compressibility flaps so you can pull out of a high speed dive. The early p38s had a bad habit of diving into the ground because of air pressure making it nearly impossible to get the elevator to do anything but after they stuck those flaps on it solved the problem

[@AvAngel]

Someone corrected me, I was mistaking them for the first stage regular flaps for turning

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Did you also know there was an airplane flying parts to retrofit dive recovery flaps on existing P-38s to Europe and a British fighter accidentally shot the plane down mistaking it for an Axis power aircraft? There is a KZbin video of an interview of one of the P-38 test pilots and he mentioned that rare fact. All very interesting stuff.

[@Decimator92]

Finally a warbird that doesn't feel weird flying with the Honeycomb Alpha.

[@AvAngel]

yep!

[@johnrenton3463]

Excellent review, keep up the good work!

[@larrymoore2571]

Removing the gunsight will also take care of that bar that annoys you. Great review I now must have this plane.

[@AvAngel]

It was the texture on the bar, but you gotta have a gunsight in a fighter right? :D

[@gtw49]

They had me a P-38, so where do I send all the money? On of my all time favorite aircraft, even above the Mitchel B-25! Oh, btw, yesterdays sound level was a bit quiet, I had trouble hearing all the great statements on the GeeBee3

[@Panfilo2]

I neeeed a Mitchell or B-17 in the sim. Maybe even the B-29 if we're lucky. Hopefully they all come in time

[@gtw49]

@@Panfilo2 I pulled the trigger, and have this in my Hager now! I just can't fly it because of my old T.HOTAS 4 dying in my hands, totally bummed until Monday now, but I can tell she'll be a enormous kick in the butt to finally get her up! Thanks Rachelle!!

[@brendanwalsh6640]

Still trying to figure out all the eccentricities of the Spitfire. Well made but certainly a handful for learn. 😒

[@DEFkon001]

She's a beaut' but I always feel weird about flying military aircraft in a civilian flight sim. I feel like no matter how good the developer does, it's always half the experience... Now if Asobo / MS decided to bring back MS Combat Flight Simulator... then that'd be something! Imagine if you could buy a combat aircraft, and also get a civilian version to use in MSFS2020? As much as I love DCS, I usually can't justify 80 USD for a single plane.. but if that plane was cross compatible across multiple sims.. even if it wasn't a full study level aircraft.. then I could see it being a much higher value.

[@BogeyTheBear]

There was a 'passenger' variant of the P-38 known as the Droop Snoop. Originally intended as a 'pathfinder' bomber, the gun compartment was replaced by a glazed bomber nose for a bomb aimer to ride inside. Some of these planes were purchased by oil and mining companies either to serve as VIP transports (getting someone out to a remote area quickly) or as a survey aircraft. It would be a delight to see a Droop Snoop P-38 in the lineup for use as a 'sightseeing' plane.

[@maxelsoro6292]

Ohh p38 lightning ohh yes rachel like that of it but to have a dc3 aircraft a6m2 zero Or tbd avenger torpedo bomber She need some a verry good refreshment to fly longer

[@Topcat1952]

This looks like another great warbird for MSFS along with the Spitfires and the Corsair. I have to wonder though where are the GA airplane developers? I would have expected to see Navajo's, Chieftans, Kings Airs, various twin Cessnas by now. I know the warbirds are exciting to fly (and this P-38 looks like a real winner) but I also like to do GA flights. Carenado has been absent as has some of the others.

[@AvAngel]

Remember it took FSX and P3D 14 years to get the variety it had... its only been a year and we've had SO many already.

[@dwaynelangerhr6985]

The only thing that I would like to see them add is a Black Night Fighter with no markings and a clean interior.

[@scarsstitches636]

Or you use the brilliant GTN 750 official addon with this as well.

[@itellzzz]

AvAngel i would love to see a lancaster bomber come to msfs 2020

[@camovecmin4968]

is it out already? it's already out on their website. Here I come!

[@AvAngel]

yes

[@mikespencer9379]

Any chance we can request a video explaining your graphics settings? You have it set-up looking very nice!

[@AvAngel]

I have it all set to Ultra basically :D the preset

[@larschristensenlp]

next we could use Messerschmitt Bf 109

[@ironknobair]

Just bought this it's pretty good but bounces while in flight, I tried slow speed and then fast speed still bounces.

[@acratone8300]

8:37 Whrrrrttllll !

[@JenniferinIllinois]

World War II is definitely being represented in MSFS. ;)

[@d7dun1010]

Question? Saw there was a sale on the MSFS Store and there was the P38! Bought it and downloaded it and it seems to work well? If I could only fly it better. However, I have heard mention that with the purchase, there were 9 variations of the P38 included? I only have one. Different developer? I get just one? They are there and I can't find them?

[@HypnoNett]

Oh wow!!

[@ccharlot]

You gonna review Aeroplane Heaven's Electra tomorrow?

[@AvAngel]

Oof, another one out... ah, maybe not tomorrow but I hope to soon ish? wasn't expecting it out so fast... already spent a ton this week XD

[@mariodeschenes7774]

Great but not a single outside shot in flight ?

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

12:48 Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full.

[@MojaveHigh]

How do you use the AP? Did I miss it?

[@AvAngel]

Pretty self explanatory, clicky button on tablet, does thing :D It's esentially the sim hotkeys.

[@MojaveHigh]

Off-topic, but how do you use the hat switch to both look around the cockpit *and* cycle through the develop-provided views?

[@AvAngel]

I do yes, different button for views but at this time it's hard to get hold of a decent headtrack for not silly money.

[@MojaveHigh]

@@AvAngel OK. So the hat switch to look around and another button to cycle. I'm not so sure about head tracking. Moving your head but not your eyes seems weird!

[@WhiteHawk77]

@@MojaveHigh it’s not really, and the bigger display you have the less you have to hold your eyes forward.

[@MojaveHigh]

@@WhiteHawk77 True. And when MSFS supports multiple monitors, sometime in 2022, that probably will help a lot.

[@electromov84]

woow how much this airplane i need thiss aircraft 😍✈️

[@AvAngel]

$45 i believe.

[@electromov84]

@@AvAngel whattt 😱 its very expensive thank you so much

[@manic_miner]

@@electromov84 quality has a price :)

[@idktbh7108]

first

[@cheetahfish]

The engine sounds are god awful, much worse than an old P-38 I had for FSX which had great sounds. There is no reason for that level of incompetence in a payware plane.

[@AvAngel]

I Highly disagree... the sounds are lovely in this aircraft.

[@cheetahfish]

@@AvAngel Seems the standards for engine sounds has dropped considerably.