Instrument Holding Patterns - Correcting for Wind

Note: This explanation is for standard, 1-minute holds, below 14,000 ft MSL.
Jim explains why a crosswind causes instrument holding patterns to have a keyhole-shaped ground track and why we triple the wind correction (crab angle) on the outbound leg.

[@PhysicsKingdom]

Best explanation on the internet, better than all the others with advanced graphics and milions of subs

[@FlywithJim]

Thanks for the positive feedback!

[@1Mr.Legend1]

No I don't think so. 3:48 The main thing that matters is how it is calculated, which he initially stated as 10 degrees. How did you calculate the wind correction? To multiply by 3. Everyone knows that, the important thing is to calculate how many degrees of wind correction to give at the beginning.

[@1Mr.Legend1]

What is the formula?

[@thomas93024]

Preparing for my cfii checkride. Definitely helped with my lesson plan! Thank you

[@KyleD237]

This answered questions that I didn't know I had. Thank you

[@1Mr.Legend1]

3:48 The main thing that matters is how it is calculated, which he initially stated as 10 degrees. How did you calculate the wind correction? To multiply by 3. Everyone knows that, the important thing is to calculate how many degrees of wind correction to give at the beginning.

[@goflyaplane4041]

As CFII this a great explanation.

[@FlywithJim]

Thanks for the positive feedback!

[@ahmadsamadzai8255]

This was awesome. Thank you. Checkride in 3 weeks.

[@FlywithJim]

Thanks for the positive feedback. Sometimes low-tech works best :-) Good luck on your checkride!

[@erkolaurimaa3427]

Thanks! Very helpful and well presented!

[@FlywithJim]

You're welcome. Thanks for the positive feedback!

[@russellgill2573]

As I am trying to get mentally back on track for IFR instruction, it is great to go over some of your videos again. Thanks again.

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[@JoshOnGuitar]

Awesome video. Cleared up a lot. Thanks Jim!

[@FlywithJim]

Thanks for the positive feedback Josh!

[@GcpMC]

This is great! Just question I had was how do you know which way to turn without messing up? Just in your head naturally like the hold entry? This makes sense but calculating neither adding or subtracting in the turn messed me up.

[@FlywithJim]

I recommend learning to visualize the wind direction on your DG/HSI and then always turn into the wind. Using a rote add/subtract method will eventually result in doing it wrong.

[@joelmulder]

When you enter direct, you don’t always first fly the inbound leg first which aalmoes you to find out the inbound leg WC angle. How do you figure this out correct correction angle when the outbound leg is the first leg? Just do the calculations with the known winds to find the WC angle for the inbound leg?

[@FlywithJim]

An educated guess/estimate is usually sufficient. Some call it the TLAR technique (That Looks About Right) 🙂

[@KaiTakApproach]

Perfect. Juuuuust right. Thanks.

[@scarpaz]

Great explanation, thanks!

[@ReadGKChesterton]

So helpful!! Thank you!

[@FlywithJim]

You're welcome!

[@1Mr.Legend1]

How did you calculate the wind correction? You don't mention the most important thing? For example, how is it calculated that it will return to 010, 150, 345 and 225 degrees? What is the formula?

[@JoshOnGuitar]

I have a question. When I'm timing the standard rate turn, I can never roll out to the WCA heading on time (3x correction on outbound). Am I supposed to adjust the rate of turn to roll out on the wind-corrected heading after 1 minute? What am I missing here...

[@FlywithJim]

No, don't change the rate of turn. Standard rate turns are always 3 degrees per second. There is no requirement to make turns in a certain amount of time. The only leg that really matters for time is the inbound leg. Hope that helps :-)

[@JoshOnGuitar]

FlywithJim.com I cleared that up with my instructor and your comment helped as well, thanks! I don't know where I picked up the habit of timing the turn.

[@pilotactor777]

go to Captain Joe-all answers there.

[@Franklin-pc3xd]

Jim needs to improve his handwriting skills - maybe he's not a leftie after all. Suggest he give his right hand a try.

[@FlywithJim]

Haha! 🤣