FMJ vs Armored (Do they Stack?) + Bullet Penetration Stealth Nerf! (CoD WW2)

[@bannankev]

Nice Video with V2! Honestly didn't notice the FMJ/Armored change with the recent update. I'm not really a wall bang person. I only do it if I know for a fact I can shoot and kill them through that wall with either a sniper or LMG. But great content and Video!

[@quickshot4050]

There is no V2, he got his unstoppables and Vicious from streaks.

[@umar118]

QuickShot he did get a V2 at 8:27 lol

[@unbalancedredneck5778]

Don’t like the stealth nerf but I really like this change. The walls felt paper thin in this game before. A welcome change.

[@a.b.836]

Also agree. Should have been in the update notes at least, but certainly a welcome and more realistic change. A freakin brick or concrete wall should be cover, not just concealment, short of using an LMG or sniper with FMJ or Armored Division. No real NATO round of any size can penetrate multiple layers of brick, or pretty much any thickness of concrete, or even anything more than about 6-8" of solid wood, like a log barricade, without using armor piercing rounds.

[@VoraciousAvgeek]

Anyone else encountered that annoying guy in shipment with the Lewis camping?

[@forgottenone5843]

FlyingSpartan Always

[@forgottenone5843]

But it is no longer a thing anymore

[@VoraciousAvgeek]

Forgotten One I’ll just throw smoke at their camping place :D

[@Xx_Arsenic_xX]

Yeah im that guy

[@VoraciousAvgeek]

Mike Hawk Me too now :D Except I like MG42 more.

[@QuinnCoulombe]

*BAKER IS PULLING BACK!!*

[@neeksphysique]

Bro you attention to detail, and how in depth you go is so unreal. Top notch my man.

[@darrenramjitsingh5909]

I like the nerf but I hate the stealth nerf part....we as a community need to be informed.

[@slimcognito7777]

dude i dont care if you make long tedious video if you're explaining something thoroughly and statistically. your videos are a great source for COD breakdowns. If they need to be lengthy and extremely detailed, do it; because id bet your core audience will still watch and appreciate your work.

[@xBOBOxFebreez]

I'm very glad to hear this. Wall bangs were super irritating especially when I saw the person who killed me didn't have FMJ. Now FMJ is actually useful because that's pretty much the only way to get kills through walls. Prayers answered

[@tawon1984]

Fantastic analysis and breakdown as usual sir 👏👏

[@quickestturtlez5362]

Holy cow how much time did this take what a grind. Awesome video.

[@donaldinho]

Welcome to the channel

[@DR-ic8in]

Xclusive Ace puts out the most informative and overall best videos ive seen. The way he breaks all the info and stats down and lays it out clean and neat and easy to understand, its awsome. You should check him out on Twitch, he streams.

[@therakksoldier1770]

Ace I would like to point out some things with the divisions that are not put in the division description and I have noticed that is not generally public knowledge. First off with the hunker basic training you’ve always been able to cancel out a fragmentation grenade. It was always if you use hunker didn’t matter the division. Now you can cancel out your fragmentation and also reset the fuse while using the armored division with out hunker. Almost like that added that Basic training function of hunker to armored without letting anyone know. The other thing I’ve noticed is with the expeditionary class you can throw equipment faster and farther as you have been able to in the past and you can also throw it while sprinting without slowing down at all. Seems like some bonus division skills that they don’t put in the division description really like it though.

[@tylerf6583]

In the description "Today we take a DEEP look..." Idk if you meant to do that but if you didnt its even better. Love the videos tho very useful info and fun to watch even on a game that I dont enjoy as much as others. Thanks for your entertainment for the past years.!

[@nj-kh5vw]

Because of your channel cod gained a new gamer.thanks! Keep them coming.

[@raizen82]

it's a good change that promotes variety and forces you not to just stick to your personal "crutch division/perk/attachments". you like to shoot through cover? you'll have to sacrifice or make compromises with that stealth build of yours etc etc

[@mr.albro14yearsago11]

Nice V2 Ace! Also you’re videos help me a lot, keep up the good work!

[@breatheinthepinkair]

20 SHOTS WITH THE STG THROUGH MEDIUM COVER FOR A KILL????

[@mickmosko9672]

yeah wtf. crazy sledgehammer.

[@chrisloomis1896]

Definitely too much. But now if you want wallbangs you have to use fmj or armored. But way too huge for a stealth nerf. I disagree with stealth nerfs at all. Every change should be announced

[@a.b.836]

I think that light cover should take double the shots, medium cover triple, and heavy cover should really be impenetrable, without FMJ. There is not a single rifle in this game that realistically should be able to penetrate concrete or brick walls. A 50 cal sniper can go through solid concrete about 8" thick, clay ( brick) about 20" thick, wood ( logs) up to nearly 36" thick, and plate steel 1" thick with basic rounds. With armor-piercing ( FMJ equivalent), can go through even 2" steel plate. However, the tests I saw using standard NATO rounds from .223 to .762, none of them could penetrate even a single layer of standard brick at 30m range. So, realistically, anything other than a sniper or LMG should have no penetration on anything more than thin wood and thin metal, and certainly not through any amount of concrete or brick.

[@Topo541]

A. B. This is just a game.

[@Topo541]

But i think the armour piercing capabilities for all guns before the patch update was fine, no need to change anything.

[@CAJfur]

Yes thank you I've been wondering about this.

[@colewagner6623]

I really think you are on of the best cod KZbinrs you really go in depth and great graphs and explain everything very well and I know everything you say is true because you test it and show us your graphs I have been watching your vids for a long time and enjoy every video

[@chrisloomis1896]

I like the balancing of wall penetration, because i feel like i would sometimes get unintentional wallbang kills without noticing a significant decrease in shots to kill without using fmj. However, I really think it was wrong of sledgehammer to make such a huge change to global penetration without including it in the patch notes. Back to what you said earlier, ace, communication is key

[@haynbong]

2:00 Lol 😂 you almost had him ... another awesome video 😎🤙 Mahalo

[@rowdydog1879]

Gridiron one shocked me. I typically only play Gridiron when it's a daily order but this helps so much. The ball carrier always eats and I thought there was nothing you can do about it. Good lookin Ace.

[@ConnorDurie]

Fun fact, most of the walls on Flak Tower are basically paper. If someone is in the windows overlooking B domination you can call bang them with a sniper with no FMJ.

[@sithi96]

Hey. Please do a video about incendiary shells on combat shotgun after update. They got a huge buff so i want you to test them!

[@TheUltimate3D]

RandomErkki I noticed that too

[@user-wn5vm3hp2u]

They are straight OP on some maps now lmao. Thats all it is on shipment now, which sucks.

[@jvartia9141]

Suomalaine ?

[@chrisloomis1896]

I thought so too but i was worried it was a placebo. But since other people are feeling it too maybe so! Which makes sense because now it takes up an attachment slot and doesn't come free with expeditionary. Although airborne+incendiary is kind of op now

[@sithi96]

Mölli joo

[@jalmanza12]

Do a videos explaining why the German announcer in operation breakout stage 3 is so loud

[@flopre9213]

Jesus Almanza bomb ammo supply haha

[@matthewmeyer49]

This is a great balance change for a lot of maps especially op Neptune. B4 you could use an lmg and melt the radios in step 2 with no fmj or armored

[@ontime7482]

Thanks for going over this topic! Your a Top level you tuber keep these vids rolling homie 👊👍

[@Forkontheleft]

Im liking it, been getting more wallbangs recently since I run fmj and high penetration weapons all the time. People stick to cover that ain't safe way more often now

[@averagegamerzzzz6710]

That’s an impressive gameplay video in the background! Love your ww2 videos though, they’ve helped me a lot 👍🏻

[@jasdavesandhu3807]

Hey ace could u do a video on best class set ups after this major update... The divisions are rebuilt from ground up.. Thanks in advance!

[@ajaxamarth7737]

Yeah this needs to be checked for hardcore game modes. I’ve noticed a few extra hit markers when an enemy is hugging cover. Since it’s hardcore I typically don’t run fmj but may have to now.

[@thename2838]

Took one game with the lewis and armored but not fmj to realize they changed the values. Glad I now know by how much. I thought some of the wallbanging was annoying, but easy to counter. It just means I will be wallbanging less, maybe wallbanged less.

[@poluxcastor4938]

I’m one of those who likes to shoot the campers trough walls, I notice in the map V2 you can shoot people from outside the middle rocket and get them. Just shoot a couple of bullet here and there and when you notice the mark... spam it like your mean it.

[@xdbrown44]

I definitly felt like they did this and I love the change! no longer feeling like I was behind cover but I still get sprayed down..

[@Mc7Matt]

These "technical" types of video are great!

[@OscarMartinez-jd8gd]

I agree with you on the change, but what I don’t like is that Sledgehammer didn’t tell us about the change. I had a few instances in which I tried to wallbang but it took more shots than normal

[@talessegatto5600]

Fantastic work at this video, and the NUKE too!

[@zFallen117]

I noticed the nerf, in Gustav I tried shooting a sniper through cover on the low walls at the top and I had fmj with a carbine and I wasn't getting a hitmarker at all

[@pystalpeet6916]

Great breakdown Ace I was arguing wirh my tv today this explains why even on hardcore. By the way nice to see you be unreal and pop a V2 rocket. Thank you again

[@hellfireincubus1721]

There is something I wanna test out. The Chiller variant for the Gewehr has a high velocity perk for multiplayer (Pseudo FMJ). I wonder if that can stack along with the FMJ attachment and armored division perk to get insane penetration. 🤔🤔🤔

[@mrniceguy3344]

I literally noticed this earlier playing Gibraltar. STG didn’t do shit to some guy hiding behind the walls next to the stairs. Very disappointing. Walls shouldn’t be made out of paper like in BO2 but I felt WWII struck a nice balance.

[@BludThirsty]

Ace maybe you could do a video showing the difference in the lethality between scorestreaks and killstreaks and the benefits of using one VS. the other if any

[@xdbrown44]

thanks ace been waiting for this specific video!

[@Ur-_-Killa-TV]

Great videos Ace! I watch all your content!

[@akihamalainen4084]

BradsOwnChannel same

[@LordAngelus]

I prefer watching Ace's videos than playing the game

[@DiMECallofDuty]

Personally I see both sides of this argument on one hand I love sniping through the walls, on the other hand on shipment they needed to reinforce those walls. Overall I feel like it's more balanced, I still always put FMJ on my sniper. We have added # of attachments so it's no big thing, I ran it anyway. I love sniping people through the shutter on Dunkirk in the balcony it's low penetration you can even get the kill without FMJ.

[@C4nTdo]

I like the change. Now it makes sense to use FMJ with my LMG. I hated the fact when ppl shot me through a wall easily with an smg equipped.

[@mlandau2776]

I think it is a good change. I never even considered using fmj before, and don’t think I’m alone in that regard. Now it has some use.

[@LesJenkins]

The patch for PC hits today so I've not had a chance to experience the change first hand, but I'm all for it. Previously taking cover seemed like a crap shoot on whether it was worth it because folks could just spray the wall and take you out way too easily.

[@zachhollar7061]

Even with armored or FMJ or both together. U still shouldn’t be able to shoot all the way thru a freakin steel truck.

[@joseaguirre9389]

u do realized that if someone bought a rifle and shot u trought ur car u would die right? regardless if ur behind it or in it....

[@dannyschmitz2897]

Unreal gameplay. 40-0! Also thanks for the info, Ace. Always appreciate it!

[@andreivaldez6713]

I'd have been ok with a slight reduction to overall penetration in order to make FMJ/ Armored more worthwhile but the amount they reduced it by seems a bit much and it should've been something they told us about instead of something done without a notification.

[@TheVisionsX]

Nice video ace, and good job on that V2

[@InvntdXNEWROMAN]

Thank god this finally happened. It seemed like FMJ was useless because most guns would easily kill through cover. Drove me crazy that this wasn't done by default.

[@Cwood216]

You should be able stack perks, attachments and basic trainings once you prestige to a certain point.

[@nathan6210]

Hey Ace I think the combat shotgun has had a buff to its fire rate when combined with incendiary shells. Could you take a look and see if its now worth running as an attachment?

[@rpaustex]

Thank you. This was my main question since the new update.

[@marra1015]

I thought something was different this weekend thanks for clearing it up 👍

[@PlatinumYuri]

Is it just me or are shotguns with Incendiary Rounds shooting faster than they were?

[@jonny5842]

PlatinumYuri People have 3 attachments now so they are maybe adding rapid fire.

[@boredonacomputer]

PlatinumYuri the combat shotgun does, I don't think the others do.

[@LookItIsHope]

Jodiler_77 No, you can use the Combat Shotty with just incendiary rounds and no other attachments, and it shoots like a Toggle Action, if not faster than that.

[@truesoaringowl4432]

Yep. They buffed the loading speed aswell.

[@snowdaysrule]

4NewHop3 What the fuck lmao I just went into private match and tested this haha I'm dying that's ridiculous

[@anthonysoto4384]

Great video it well help me when i get it. Keep up the great amazing work!

[@honestloki3856]

Thank god, that's one of the things that drove me nuts with the game. Not just walls, but getting shot through buildings, ships, etc. was ridiculous. For those who don't like the change, you can still have it the way it was, you just have to perk into it. Quite frankly, that's the way it should be in my view.

[@areyoujelton]

At least you’re HONEST.

[@noonenowhere626]

Thanks. I had no idea. I have changes to make now.

[@fredflinstone1646]

So I see this video is starting to age. Are the damages that you refer to in this video still the case or have they come up with another update that has changed things? btw thanks for the informative and in depth video and analysis.

[@tallen702]

Definitely noticed the nerfing as a LMG/Armored player. Long-range moderate cover, 8+ hit markers on a guy and he still didn't kick the bucket. Infuriating.

[@shinigummie]

Haven't noticed this at all because I'm mostly running armored on my classes because everyone is spamming stuns now

[@ShadyLTD]

Great video as always!

[@ClintBeastmode]

I'm having issues with textures loading in very slowly since the update. Anyone else ??

[@sithi96]

Thomas S I had that since beginning but im using iphone as a router and sometimes i only get 8-10mbs connection. Do you have good internet?

[@SergeantQuackersThe2nd]

The Reticles on my Snipers never load properly during Matches. Kind of a annoying issue.

[@mcnalga]

Only annoying issue I've come across is the semi pause or lag when your in lobby and you try to open a supply drop or go into the shooting range. It never happened before the big update.

[@chrisloomis1896]

I've had this issue since launch

[@sithi96]

I’m wrong but Yep. I know it sucks but i dont have anything else. Speedtest shows 16ms ping but its way more in the game and its fucking up my kdr

[@Cristian_D63]

I love the new penetration stats it used to way to easy to wall bang fmj was basically useless except for streaks but now like you said if I die because I get wall banged they deserve it

[@nrousseau7606]

10:22 it’s like he turned into a robot😂

[@Shadowreacon8]

Nice job on the V2. Was this your first?

[@charmanderichooseyou2726]

Discuss mounted MG nerfs as well as fire shell buffs please

[@Sugna7]

Hey Ace, I understand that with the new update there is a lot to cover and you are doing a great job, but I was wondering if you could give us some tips on jumpshots and diveshots. Thanks

[@sanityisirrelevant6184]

To be completely honest I don't really mind the bullet penetration nerf. Since I primarily use SMGs I expect my weapon to not be able to shoot through brick or metal. People that headglitch on barrels and stuff are going to kill me before I manage to shoot through the cover anyways.

[@almightygerm9919]

Hey Ace! I am stoked for the nerf and how FMJ / Amored is now a viable attachment/skill. Question, Has there been any change to the mounted machine guns (tank turrets or wall mounted MG) as far as bullet penetration?

[@Zunnunn]

Best CoD statistician!

[@internalflame317]

And do video on suppreser damage change

[@breatheinthepinkair]

INTERNAL FLAME I believe suppressors only affect the damage drop off ranges

[@sithi96]

breatheinthepinkair I think that too. You cant trust the numbers showing under the gun but its worth testing to be sure. It really cant half your damage and doesnt feel like it at all

[@sanityisirrelevant6184]

breatheinthepinkair I thought that too. And it still doesn't stop me suppressing my weapons though.

[@markjones5672]

Just put a suppressor on a pistol (test each pistol individually) and shoot the targets at the firing range. That's what I've done

[@ryanguertin1569]

I'm just glad I got to enjoy the shipment wall bang spawn trap before they got rid of it

[@pejnismiggle]

Just yesterday actually I destroyed someone through the side of the wood shipping container that's open on both ends. I was about to run through, he saw me and started shooting his rifle or SMG, I darted to the side and popped him through the wall with my Kar98k. Also, I actually really needed this video recently because I'm trying to destroy a Ball Turret Gunner with nothing but my LMG, but I can't seem to quite destroy it before it's time is up. I am using the Bren though so I might have to change to the MG42, MG15, or Lewis. something with a way better fire rate.

[@averagegamer9975]

Amazing work as usual!👏👏👏👏👏

[@chriswatson4574]

I snorted every time he said penetration 😂

[@PU8698]

I snort everytime my uncle penetrates my ass

[@PU8698]

Oh wait

[@PU8698]

How do you delete a comment?

[@Nrzpokrter]

Patrik Uosukainen Hahahahahaha

[@chriswatson4574]

You see Patrick, you click the three dots next to the comment, click edit and then at the end write "and I enjoy it"

[@ImDaBadGuy]

Off topic question ace. Nice new BAR dude up II V2 gameplay. Does high caliper do anything on the BAR? I don't know if anyone else noticed this but it seems headshots are way harder to get after update. I shoot people out of head glitches and don't get a headshot. It seems really strange.

[@charliebunnman7499]

Cheers XA, Absolutely the Best. 100% Pure Gamer Skills coupled with serious scientific & analytical breakdowns of every burning question that arises with technical precision. Spreading the joy of knowledge🤗 informing us all so that we may continue to enjoy ww2. 💪 Another 🤳 🏁 Flawless Win🏁✌🤓 ✌

[@mdev3722]

Hi Ace, I missed the heroic BAR contract a few days ago!! Do you know if it will return?!! Gutted I only have the Dude Up 1 and the old sailor one!

[@aaponosoite]

The guy she tells you not to worry about: Lewis You: Machine pistol Her: easily destroyable glass wall

[@Nrzpokrter]

Aapon Osoite Lolololol

[@dtours111]

Do a video on bank shots for grenades and stuns. Been trying this lately on shipment for example.

[@badass98kx250]

Love you videos man best cod video out there and 40-0 dang man your a beast of a player ace....

[@antfax]

Do people count as cover? Will a bullet go through a limb with fmj? Been dying to know if it helps with multiple kills with enemies lined up ..while using a rifle, sub, etc

[@jerrodkunsky8164]

Awesome vid Ace thanks for the info

[@DavidGarcia-pi9wn]

If you run armored with a the m30 you can shoot through light cover and still one shot people but that's it

[@starwatcher73]

i really like these videos ! Do you know by chance that if the Lookout basic training is 1:1 now a Resistance class perk built in?

[@Evercade_Effect]

I like it now as walls felt like butter. Next video should be comparing silencers since the update. It seem s like now they reduce damage not the range.

[@auroyalty]

I only ever run fmj on snipers anyway, because they don't have many other good attachments

[@danielmpour3021]

you are THE best cod youtuber ever

[@VOLK________]

Dia Mpour LOL

[@nicholasjohns4683]

the change is great

[@streamerbeliever]

Are your footsteps actually quieter with the new resistance perk "Enemy movements are easier to hear"? My footfalls seem nearly silent. Wonder if enemies hear them as normal?

[@DR-ic8in]

Nice thanks for this video, it was needed ! Personally im happy that they reduced bullet penetration. In most CODS it was way to easy to get a "penetration" kill

[@apraetorian9986]

I noticed this was your first v2 rocket since the division update , when they added the new “nuclear” challenge in. I got it as well . Do you think it’s stupid that there’s no heroic animated calling card for earning a v2? This has always pissed me off lol. But maybe it’s in the game but hidden. For example the calling cards for completing the challenges for blitzkrieg and clandestine are unlocksbke. I finished both. But you can’t find the calling cards anywhere . I hope tomorrow they fix this and we finally get a v2 calling card

[@TheXclusiveAce]

;)

[@CakeOfJusticeXc]

Yay, been waiting on this one xD Armored OP af now, it's all I use

[@PheonixHunter]

That cheeky V2 tho

[@jeffpotts8937]

Another good video!

[@badbroozer6561]

Xclusive Ace. I sent you the video on Twitter. Edit: If anyone wants to know, I saved a video of me getting knifed by a guy who had no bayonet and had an STG equipped. Instead of hitting me with the butt of the gun, he hit me with an actual combat knife.

[@tyler-carrington]

What about operation Neptune destroy the radios, what are the effects there?