FMK 9C1 G2 Range Day Revisit

[@grenademau]

Was just a local CRPA event and FMK was there spoke with them and told them I was researching it as my next purchase dude spent 20 mins talking to me about the gun and company. Company based out of Placentia CA and I’m literally 20 mins away from it. Gave me a free shirt and a $50 off coupon, I went to the store and ordered myself one.

[@w0rldv1raldaily]

I'ma call em and push that coupon line wit the girl that answers their phone

[@gedocowboy8484]

Nice video guys. Thanks for supporting us Californians, most just cast us out or tell us to move. But this is my state, I won’t be forced out. Anyways, good review. I picking one up soon.

[@thinmizzy365]

Waving a hand from Orange County

[@ablibitum8303]

Greetings from the Free County of Cochise in beautiful Arizona! I sure hope you are enjoying the 9C1 Gen 3 if you decided to do so. Great value in my opinion. The process of converting to 9mm from a lifetime of 1911 based.45 acp pistols requires training and commitment, so adjustment was expected. I found the transition pleasant and beneficial in the end. The result for my tactical preparation is nothing less than a force multiplier!

[@kevbiker3982]

After a couple hundred rounds the trigger moves out very well. It is a quality firearm for the price. Customer service is very good also.

[@JO_AGGY]

got mine about 6 months ago, put about 1000 rounds through it so far with no issues at all. love the gun and glad i didnt break the bank getting something reliable and comfortable to shoot and carry. i blacked out my rear sight and it made sight acquisition 1000x better

[@LNCLENT]

Not sure if it’s just me, but I’ve found that the sights when aligned as show works well but with the muzzle up showing the full front dot, it is sighted perfectly for 50 yards. Might be a fluke on mine but I was amazed when I figured this out. Hitting 7/10 on a 5” plate at 50 yards with any pistol is impressive, to do it out of the box for under $300 is unheard of. Very impressed with the quality especially after the (804) FAT upgrade. Can’t wait for the new gen3!

[@tomofengland]

Thanks for the heads up about this video. Good to know about the sights, and I'll keep that slide stop in mind. I chose this over the Glock 19 because the reviews for this gen have been pretty good overall. It sounds like a good gun for the price, so I opted for this, a lock box, and 600 rounds instead of the Glock. Next step is CCW, since apparently LA County is now more open to issuing. Thanks again! Another great video

[@GBGuns]

Training and ammo almost always make for a better shooter than any gun purchase. Wise choice.

[@thinmizzy365]

North Orange County checking in. Want to get one for my Mom.

[@tomofengland]

@@thinmizzy365 having now put 300 rounds through mine, I thoroughly recommend it. I expected that it would take some time to break in, and for me to get used to it, but it was phenomenally accurate right from the start, and a real pleasure to shoot. Surprisingly little recoil, too. I thought I might have some reservations after using it, but in fact I'm looking forward to the next time I can take it out. Just remember Graham's tip about sinking the ball halfway into the cup when you line up your sights. Saved me a lot of frustration!

[@megaman010391]

Defensively why would you choose this over a Glock. Glock has proven track record. Springfield XD line as well. I'm from Cali, not bashing the company. If it's all you can afford that's understandable. More better than getting a high point. Run some hollow points on these pistols to see if it works. That's all I can suggest.

[@megaman010391]

@@tomofengland Do give us data after 1000 rounds.

[@normbittner3762]

Loved my first one- sold it and regretted it. Picked up a second one- with the slotted slide, optics cut etc. and had feeding issues and I sold it. I may pick one up again at some point because it is a nice sized pistol and very soft shooter. Sights and trigger are cheap and easy to change out- Glock sights.

[@miguelceballos5838]

Repalced my sights with some tru glo really makes a diffence

[@quinnmclaughlin7537]

lining up the top edge is how I learned anyway, didn't realize people learned to rest the whole dot in the U. otherwise an interesting gun I might have to keepuan eye out for

[@ablibitum8303]

Great video ! You both are so pleasant and informative! I recently purchased the Gen 3 9C1 and am very pleased with the value of this pistol. Seems that FMK has addressed some of the issues and brought to market a better product. The trigger will be an issue in California until such time that those experiencing the thrill of controlling other people to purchase a product without the fire control system intended by design, or purchase nothing at all... No Soup For You! Double action only, no easy release magazine, no single action fire from reset .... Sometimes being upset by such Logically Challenged people is counter-productive, since after all, your anger, fuels their orgasms.

[@maxhayward2127]

Glock factory sights are also the same way if you line up the sights properly using the top edge. Glock sights will cut part of the front circle off and you basically will only see a partial circle of lining up top edges on Glock sights. It’s something my friends and I have always noticed and thought was odd.

[@jrbarringer]

You can dial those sights in by filing the rear notch down to, and perhaps slightly into, the white.

[@abrahamguitar]

Thx for clarifying the sight alignment issue. I'm a newbie so this issue was frustrating and hard to determine.

[@toddfeltman3748]

I’ve always lined up the top edges anyway. Hopefully, they are easily replaced.

[@markshippoli8918]

I think Phoenix Arms is still making handguns in California. And they have way to many safeties on their guns! The HP22a & HP25a in Ontario, California, however they might've discontinued the 25acp.

[@eidtnaci]

I just picked up one thanks for the advice

[@w0rldv1raldaily]

experience? did it explode

[@MR.MAP007]

This pistol has a major safety issue. Try pulling the trigger without engaging the safety blade. The pistol will go off! I have sent this to FMK and it was returned with the same exact issue! The company will not acknowledge this, and I had to pay shipping to them. I also verified this at a local gun store using their display model and the trigger will still engage without the safety blade. Why FMK doesn't want to recall this pistol baffles me. If you don't believe me, please dry fire this pistol. Simply pull on the sides of the trigger without pushing the blade. With enough force it will clear the frame and engage the sear. This is a dangerous weapon. Additionally, I've had FTE and FTF issues that I sent to the company twice for repair (They will not give you a shipping label). Yes, the pistol is $250 and has a lifetime warranty and made in the USA, but if you have to spend $50 for shipping each time you have a problem, what is the point? For those that are still adamant on purchasing this pistol, just please try this at the gun counter before making your purchase.

[@haydenc2742]

Do you have the 804 trigger pack? Also after the first hundred rounds need to use heavier than oil lube on the rails and slide channels Please do another review, how many rounds do you have thru it so far?

[@killacoiler1707]

I think that like any relatively small firearms company that is still in its infancy they have issues that need addressed and ironed out. What I do like about this company is it is veteran owned and operated and that customer service is friendly and quick to assist. I hope that as they move forward with R&D that they can get things ironed out so that this firearm becomes a viable EDC option with a sticker price that keeps it very accessible to all. Although very Glockesque in design it is IMO far more ergonomically pleasing in the hand. The triggers remind me of almost every budget pistol as they are very gritty and feel ratchety in operation. I have not done enough research to see if the sights and trigger are Glock aftermarket compatible but if they are an Apex and some XS DXT express sights and you would have a very comfortable firearm to carry and shoot. I have seen where reviewers have had issues with extraction, double feeds, and various magazine issues with past models. Others have demonstrated dead trigger problems. I want to support veteran owned American companies but given the current track record of these firearms I cannot warrant the purchase as I won't own a firearm that I cannot trust to be in a carry rotation. Hopefully, this latest offering demonstrates better reliability of function.

[@GBGuns]

We have two 9C1 G2s. One is about nine or ten years old and a hot mess. This one is 3-5 years old and works fine. I think the problem is most of the reviews are old and so of older production guns.

[@eligarcia215]

I just bought one a couple of days ago. Now I wait.

[@patrickpatterson182]

I really like mine

[@zipzap4706]

Sights may be different than other guns, but once you learn YOUR gun, it's dead-nuts accurate at 10-40 yds. Remember, this particular pistol is a fighting/defensive firearm, not a bullseye tack-driver.

[@mybuddyboy1974]

I just bought one in pink for my wife for $279 on sale at turners, hope i made the right decision🙏

[@GBGuns]

They can be great guns, but certainly have a past of struggles.

[@thinmizzy365]

Which Turner's? I think the Orange location still has a pink one. Want to get one for my Mom.

[@mybuddyboy1974]

@@thinmizzy365 turners san diego, maybe give them a call first to find out if they still have the pink fmk available

[@RevGunn-jq3cq]

Customarily I buy a Heritage Rough Rider each Thanksgiving/Christmas season for $99.99 on sale, just about everywhere. Last year I couldn’t find them for that price thanks to the virus. I bought the brown box version of that gun as a consolation. I found this gem for $219 plus $12 shipping, not bad for a time when guns were selling at crazy prices. The gun came with one magazine and a slip of paper with a link to the website to download the user manual.

[@GBGuns]

How's your luck been with the Heritage guns? I bought one once, it's the only gun I've ever had to refuse at pickup.

[@RevGunn-jq3cq]

@@GBGuns Well if you turned it down because it look like a drunk tried to make a copy of a Ruger Single Six in their basement, then I can understand. I think it’s in the name, they are a little rough comparatively speaking but they are great little inexpensive plinkers for the backyard range and super fun for first time shooters. I’ve introduced a few anti-gunners to the shooting sports with them and they loved it. My formula is, coke can size targets at 5 yards and low velocity Aquila Colibri , 22 shorts and CCI quites 710 FPS. to start. With the Colibri hearing protection is not necessary. Accuracy is a different story at distance, but they all are pretty consistent where they hit so it is easy to figure out the point of aim. I own Four 4inch six shooters, three 6 inch six shooters, one 16 inch six shooter, one 6inch nine rounder, and one 6 round Rancher rifle. For the price and the amount of inexpensive shooting pleasure, they are hard to beat. Pre-covid the Rough Riders were always a hit at my annual Barbecues. So far I’ve not had any problem with any of them and with a magnum cylinder installed they could certainly do damage to an uninvited intruder.

[@GBGuns]

I was ok with it looking a little rough, but it was the cylinder seizing up during handling that made me kick it back. Fortunately the retailer was undersranding.

[@2Aknight762]

Use a sharpie to black out the rear and a file to deepen the notch. That being said, even a cheap pistol should come with useable iron sights.

[@richardlinares4616]

Hey gram I am thinking getting one. What recommend for reliable ammo in this handgun???

[@GBGuns]

You should be good with most common ammo in an FMK.

[@scottgarner7290]

two thru same hole?! trigger is good enough for an adrenaline filled defense encounter!

[@settleschris1965]

Hope it’s better than the Gen1, I had three and loved them but they jammed to much.

[@GBGuns]

Yes, they fixed a lot of things with these, even over the earlier Gen 2 (which we have and is a jam-o-matic)

[@paulsaver8777]

FMK is a veteran owned company and I have pulling for them to be successful from the start.. unfortunately up until now their pistols have been too unreliable to recommend. Moving forward, if they review well in a 500 or 1000 round test, I will consider a purchase.

[@GBGuns]

This one is a couple years old and has at least 500 rounds through it.

[@paulsaver8777]

@@GBGuns Good to know.. keep up the fine work Graham, your channel is excellent!

[@JoeHinojosa-ph8yw]

FMK, GLOCK 19 KILLER!

[@w0rldv1raldaily]

tell that to chiraq

[@petermonck5448]

New sights coming?👍😎

[@ahmedutuber]

similar Canik pistols just shape✨

[@GBGuns]

These have been around for a long time, I think longer than the Caniks have been in the US

[@JaysRandomnessChannel]

So the dot is like a rising sun basically? That's nothing to gripe about. If you know beforehand it should be a pretty decent handgun. I'm buying my daughter one in pink raspberry and I'll definitely explain the "rising sun" front sight.

[@KandyRedCoi]

Does it fit glock sights?

[@bernabesanchez387]

Hi 👋 out of curiosity what sights would you recommend?

[@GBGuns]

Sights really become a matter of personal preference. For general purpose I like Night Fision.

[@bernabesanchez387]

@@GBGuns thanks for the input..I’m curious what barrel options are out there as well..I recently purchased my FMK at a reduced price I personally haven’t had any of the problems other than a stove pipe once

[@GBGuns]

@@bernabesanchez387 the newer ones have been good from what I hear.

[@whatsup24_7]

Does FMK stand for Free Man Kyle?

[@GBGuns]

Lol, no this company has been around a lot longer than that

[@danielpicquet1042]

For My Kountry. Yes, that is what it stands for...

[@MrBuckeye63]

Do the new models come out with with the improved triggers ?

[@GBGuns]

That's a question for FMK

[@mikeabner0511]

I just purchased a 9C1 gen2 and it is the worst gun ie er owned. I just replaced the ejecter and it didn't help at all. The magazine will not feed and it double stacks every few rounds. I am going to contact the company and request a new gun. I'm glad it has a lifetime warranty.

[@beastofburden7299]

I've heard the 1st Gen takes Beretta 92 mags, is this still true on this new version?

[@patrickpatterson182]

Mine has nice big three dot sites

[@ahmedutuber]

Which brand this model

[@toddfeltman3748]

FMK

[@defiantmopar]

Are they drop safe yet?

[@king.omni-man]

Yes the triggers are stamped with number

[@thinmizzy365]

Drop safe? If a pistol is sold in CA, the answer should be Yes.

[@defiantmopar]

@@thinmizzy365 It may say so on paper, but this company has had many drop safe issues in the past

[@punako268]

its similar to the glock sites, but im not a glock fanboy,, glock shoots at 12oclock, ergonomics better than glock.

[@showtime2629]

There is no "proper" in shooting, there is only equations. If you put the dot in the cup where does the bullet impact, if you line up the tops of the then where does it go? If your thumb is hitting the slide stop adjust your grip.

[@wardroland270]

Thanks GB. Great job. Good info. LETS GO BRANDON

[@joemanco-no4jy]

The guy standing next to you shooting is annoying. Can't you do better?

[@GBGuns]

I do shoot better, but no, I'm just a guy with a membership to a range, not an industry shill with my own land to shoot on.

[@franmartinez779]

Please..next review on a gun please do not do it at a gun range ...struggled to hear and focus on what you were saying..ugh!!

[@GBGuns]

The good news is all of this information (and more) is in a Tabletop video.