FN 509 vs Sig P320

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Hammer Striker

Hammer Striker

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@scottbryant9425
@scottbryant9425 4 жыл бұрын
Shot them both, own the 509 midsized. They cleaned the trigger up a bit in the midsize. Like the bore axis better, the grip is grippier (is that a word) and the 509 feels like a better quality gun in hand. FN wouldn't sell the pentagon the guns for 250 bucks each and they probably didn't lobby the right senators hard enough. The gun however is the better gun.
@darylragland1502
@darylragland1502 3 жыл бұрын
You stole my thoughts lol 👍🇺🇲
@Fir3LocksTV
@Fir3LocksTV Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 I have a midsize tactical it’s trash bro you know it it’s only pretty everything for it is hard to find or expensive I like fn but they keep on bullshitting on giving people what they want Also it’s not worth more than 250 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 FNs got some of the worst out of the box trigger and barley any after market support
@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it
@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it Жыл бұрын
idk if its still up to date but p320 is far worse than glock when it comes to trigger, grip, weight and overall handling. on the other hand i see many ppl saying 509 is a "better p320" so.... either sig is overrated or 509 got fixed trigger over the years
@niteryda84
@niteryda84 6 жыл бұрын
Bought 509 today. One of my best decisions yet!
@Noctifern
@Noctifern 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@phill216
@phill216 3 жыл бұрын
Me to big facts...just got it today FN FAMILY
@Slavic203
@Slavic203 3 жыл бұрын
Literally just bought one yesterday 😊
@DJ-cp8hz
@DJ-cp8hz 3 жыл бұрын
Bought the FN 509c tactical 8/31/21, fourteen days later I'm still waiting on Washington state background check to get mine out of jail 😒
@lexandersig
@lexandersig 3 жыл бұрын
@@DJ-cp8hz Thank Biden😂😂😂
@GuardDawg87
@GuardDawg87 3 жыл бұрын
The FN509 has a chf stainless steel barrel nitride finished which is a HUGE plus in my book
@briangreen550
@briangreen550 6 жыл бұрын
Own both. Hands down the FN509.
@Miamibeachlifestyle
@Miamibeachlifestyle 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you prefer 509?
@drumnut5175
@drumnut5175 5 жыл бұрын
@@Miamibeachlifestyle cause its better haha
@TOAST1MIA
@TOAST1MIA 3 жыл бұрын
I own the p320 and am in the market for another pistol and I've been looking at the 509 but the 2 seem so similar and I dont really want 2 of ya know basically the same thing, which brings me to my question to someone who owns both... Are that as similar as they seem?
@looseballs1966
@looseballs1966 3 жыл бұрын
@@TOAST1MIA Nope WAYYYYY different, sig is good But FN is better in almost every way, throw the Apex trigger in the FN and it's beyond beliefe how awesome it becomes, only gun I own that comes close is my Q5 match, FN customer service is tons better than dealing with Sig if you have an issue also, Sig thinks their crapping the golden egg and everybody should pay them homage.
@kevinnugent223
@kevinnugent223 5 жыл бұрын
Handled them both a year ago at my lgs , went home with the 509. I believe they're equal in quality but the 509 ergos felt superior in the hand .
@Jmoney_82
@Jmoney_82 4 жыл бұрын
509 any day over P320
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your review. I have the FN 509 and have a strong preference for it over the Sig. When I first picked up the 509 the grip fit perfectly. Slide rails on the 509 seem much more robust and the frame in my opinion has more ergonomic contours. I don't like the interchangeable chassis used on the Sig 320. My 509 is a great shooter .
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The 509 is a really nice gun and both of us prefer it over the Sig as well.
@bosse641
@bosse641 7 жыл бұрын
509 for me. ..........drooling.
@Walklikelions
@Walklikelions 8 ай бұрын
Last 3 months iv been deciding on a handgun and decided on a p320 model. X series probably but couldn't find the model I wanted. FN was a top gun on my list but it's really out of my price range... but I found a bundle and got tired of waiting. FN509 mrd with 5 mags. Im excited!
@duckvenom
@duckvenom 5 жыл бұрын
Easy choice for me. FN customer service is fantastic. Sig pissed me off for the last time. I still have two but never again will i buy anything more than ammo from them. I like some of their new stuff but no. Sauer grapes. And i love this 509 tactical with the apex trigger. FN has actually surpassed H&K for my family needs. And we love these too.
@roymenke1909
@roymenke1909 2 жыл бұрын
Both are great. I have a P320 Carry and my brother just bought a 509. Can’t wait to compare them.
@talon7333
@talon7333 6 жыл бұрын
509 ANY day. I like not having to worry about my gun firing if it hits a hard surface the wrong way like the safe-queen P320
@JFlip27
@JFlip27 6 жыл бұрын
Talon 733 that problem has been fixed
@RepentorPerish77
@RepentorPerish77 5 жыл бұрын
But you have to worry about dropping it in water 😂😂..and FN still hasn't fixed that issue
@kevinnugent223
@kevinnugent223 5 жыл бұрын
@@RepentorPerish77 not an issue just dont drop it in a bucket of water for 10 seconds before u need it , and it fires every time .
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG 6 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video, but I’ve been eyeballing an LE model 509 for a few months now......watching/reading reviews......and your comparison is a big help. Thanks for making it!!
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Happily the guns themselves don't change much so it let's our videos stay relevant.
@tidypog3272
@tidypog3272 6 жыл бұрын
Why do people care about an audible trigger reset? There's no way you can hear that in the field or on the range
@jeffslagle7747
@jeffslagle7747 6 жыл бұрын
tidy pog Beg to differ, in even some of the videos you can hear the reset, if you can feel it you more than likely hear it. Now as to how much of a difference it makes, you got me there. I'm not shooting IDPA or anything. I believe it's all about how well you handle the firearm and recover from felt recoil. When TSHTF none of that is going to matter you shoot until the threat stops period. All he should worry about hearing is "I am armed and will shoot!" If he hears a click it's more than likely not the gun.
@gregboggs4721
@gregboggs4721 5 жыл бұрын
Well you won’t be worried about it in a real world fire fight, I can tell you that for sure! When you’re in survival mode it’s irrelevant.
@kevcom82
@kevcom82 5 жыл бұрын
Never found any relevance in an audible reset. You feel the trigger the more you shoot. You know when the trigger wall breaks and at what point it resets. Familiarity is more valuable.
@lazerrred
@lazerrred 4 жыл бұрын
@ tidy pog - no you don’t hear it, but with correct trigger control you will feel it and it can make your splits much quicker in like USPSA & IDPA.
@Overtorange
@Overtorange 3 жыл бұрын
Because if you can hear it, you can feel it. Something mechanical causes the sound and it's more than likely that it's intensity correlates to how much you can feel it.
@bobmurray6924
@bobmurray6924 6 жыл бұрын
my 509 retired my Glock. best pistol made imo.
@michaelhitchcock3987
@michaelhitchcock3987 7 жыл бұрын
The P-320 won because Sig is giving them up for only $217 per unit. It has little to do with the actual guns. I have both & I like them both but I like the 509 more.
@Jay_Sullivan
@Jay_Sullivan 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, I was wondering if it's because it's better looking, minus the grip.
@thegreenberetlife0191
@thegreenberetlife0191 7 жыл бұрын
Do you know how much Glock sells their guns to major agencies for? Hint: way cheaper than $217.00... Price isn't why the Sig won, educate yourself. The only reason we know the price that Sig submitted, is that it won and is available to the public. The cost the other manufacturers submitted have not been released... Do some research on Glock however and you will see how cheap agencies are purchasing them for...
@Stack151
@Stack151 7 жыл бұрын
You are completely correct, Sig won because it passed all the tests better and also the "completely" package requirements were better than Glock & M&P. I own multiple Glocks and M&Ps, but I don't have a P320 (yet), or a 509 (also yet). They are all great pistols and the Army has a huge win over the Beretta, so this is still a good news story.
@Jay_Sullivan
@Jay_Sullivan 7 жыл бұрын
They didn't complete the testing. So, you can stop pretending that you know Sig 'passed all the tests better'.
@Stack151
@Stack151 7 жыл бұрын
Curious, how do you know they didn't complete the testing?
@LastEarBender
@LastEarBender 5 жыл бұрын
I really like both of these guns - I own the P320 and just this past weekend shot a friend's 509. Very similar sight picture - very easy to manage recoil on both. Yes - even with a higher bore axis, they're both very easy to handle with fast follow up shots. I do like the reset a little bit better on the FN, but I pretty much agree with everything in this review.
@josh48315
@josh48315 4 жыл бұрын
Which has a higher bore axis between the P320 and the 509?
@LastEarBender
@LastEarBender 4 жыл бұрын
@@josh48315 - the p320 is a little bit higher bore axis & the original style grips don't let you get as high up on the gun as the X series of the p320, but the original grips have a good palm swell without being blocky on the upper part of the backstrap. I love the grip on the 509 though- I think they absolutely nailed it.
@josh48315
@josh48315 4 жыл бұрын
LastEarBender thanks. I have an M&P and love it but curious to check out the 509 series.
@LastEarBender
@LastEarBender 4 жыл бұрын
@@josh48315 - You're welcome. Let me know how you like the M&P by comparison once you pick up one of the others. I've been wanting an M&P, but haven't had extra $$ for a while. I searched for about 2 weeks on gun (dot) deals and was able to pick up a 509 for about $400. My favorite P320 is a carry size chambered in .357 Sig
@greatamericansurvival
@greatamericansurvival 7 жыл бұрын
I have both and love them both, I put a set of Legion night sights on my 509, just awesome.
@dsd-downshiftdave8056
@dsd-downshiftdave8056 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but if you had to pick one
@greatamericansurvival
@greatamericansurvival 4 жыл бұрын
I sold both my 320’s this year but still have my 509 it’s awesome. Mines the full size 509 I’m considering buying the mid also.
@TXSuburbanHomestead
@TXSuburbanHomestead 7 жыл бұрын
I've got the 320. No disagreements here on anything you said. I've run a couple thousand rounds through it so far and have nothing but great things to say about it. I have the full-size and was able to get a Large frame because I've got really big hands. I moved the chassis over and have to say it was a great $44 investment. The mag release being changable for me as a lefty was great because when it was shifted over made the opposing side flush, which I really like. I really like the 509, but it kills me as a safety professional that you have to pull the trigger to release the upper for takedown. It's like the M14 safety design where you have to basically have your finger on the trigger to engage the safety.
@tymccutchen
@tymccutchen 6 жыл бұрын
TXSuburbanHomestead .. Is that thousands of rounds through it with the upgraded trigger system that sig does on there volunteer upgrade or older trigger. Curios is why im asking looking to get one soon.
@TXSuburbanHomestead
@TXSuburbanHomestead 6 жыл бұрын
Good question. The thousands were with the old configuration. I have a few of videos up on my channel documenting my upgrade process if you're interested. It ended up fine, but wasn't without a hiccup here and there. I've got a video of finally getting to put some rounds through the new configuration with the new trigger & disconnector. I've got about a thousand rounds through it now and it's working great so far, but like I said, the getting there wasn't without a hiccup there and there.
@JacksonWalter735
@JacksonWalter735 4 жыл бұрын
Both excellent guns. Can't really go wrong with either. For me a FN 509 with an APEX trigger job is one of the best handguns you can buy. If we're talking about stock guns, it just really depends on the person. I love the trigger and reset on the P320. The aftermarket support and all the cool things you can put your P320 in (especially carbine conversion kits) are second only to Glocks. The ergonomics, grip texture, and ambidextrous features for a lefty like me makes the FN 509 my preferred choice. I don't care about grip frames and trigger modules, but if you do the P320 would be a better choice. The trigger module for the FN 509 barely has any grip frame support if any.
@amirkatz6453
@amirkatz6453 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice review! Touched all of the important parts
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@DevTheBigManUno
@DevTheBigManUno 3 жыл бұрын
Got one of each. 509 midsize for 9mm Conceal carry and a P320 carry in 357 SIG for when I can carry my sling bag.
@NC_flow
@NC_flow Жыл бұрын
My first gun, fn 509. Love it!!!
@SiliconDrifter
@SiliconDrifter 4 жыл бұрын
509 tact for life
@19tank81
@19tank81 7 жыл бұрын
Hammer Striker Great vid! Between my Gen 4 Glock 17, M&P 2.0, and P320 Carry model, I carry the SIG the most. The size is perfect with the 3.9in barrel, granted it is a bit heavy, but that trigger is leagues ahead of the other two.
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
Thank-you. The P320 is an excellent gun and you cannot go wrong with it.
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru 3 жыл бұрын
MCARBO Spring Kit for the FN 509 will make a huge difference for a 20 dollars.
@gregglinka7494
@gregglinka7494 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. This is the first time I’ve watched HammerStriker but definitely not my last.
@ChrisB-zz8dh
@ChrisB-zz8dh 3 жыл бұрын
The Sig P320 for sure. Just a great gun you can do so much with. Love it!! And the P320 is cheaper than the 509.
@bigj4575
@bigj4575 7 жыл бұрын
I would of like to seen the Beretta apx vs sig 320 because the both have replaceable chassis
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
We have yet to get our paws on an APX. When we do, we will compare it to the various other ones we already have.
@daffydill5807
@daffydill5807 6 жыл бұрын
FN all day long.
@ronhicks9014
@ronhicks9014 6 ай бұрын
I agree I have the FNX 45 tactical and the 320 far more accurate with the FN
@i8canada
@i8canada 4 жыл бұрын
509, 2000 round through the pipe, butter smooth trigger and reset,so much so that I bought a second one.. and I live in Comida, where guns are evil and gang members had a difficult childhood...
@stevenkendell1134
@stevenkendell1134 3 жыл бұрын
"Like any really good concept, implementation can kill it." :)
@Havok-zp8ln
@Havok-zp8ln 7 жыл бұрын
Really nice review!! I have the p320c 9mm and carry it daily but want another 9mm and was looking at the 509. (Since can't find the p10c around here.) I believe you have sold me on the 509!
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
Thank-you. The 509 is a great choice and seems to be more available, at least right now, than the CZ.
@willws2conceptsshephard
@willws2conceptsshephard 7 жыл бұрын
Havok 442000 gunbroker has them all day every day
@cruickshankoutdoors7575
@cruickshankoutdoors7575 4 жыл бұрын
509 wins in my opinion. SIG sits too high in the hand, isn’t easily fitted with back straps (you need to buy an entirely new frame) has had issues left and right as demonstrated by the DoD, and in the tac versions, the SIG doesn’t have co witnesses ability as the rear sight is removed to put in an RDS.
@shaunthorton7090
@shaunthorton7090 4 жыл бұрын
🤔 My take from this,after watching this video ? Im really glad i just bought the 509
@matthewpyatte2797
@matthewpyatte2797 4 жыл бұрын
P320 is better
@looseballs1966
@looseballs1966 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewpyatte2797 NO
@jeffm7669
@jeffm7669 7 жыл бұрын
The FN is probably the best handguns ever made.
@joeyfernandez7309
@joeyfernandez7309 6 жыл бұрын
That depends on the person. To me “personally “ I love and consider Sig Sauer the best pistols ever made
@4coopdawg
@4coopdawg 5 жыл бұрын
Ruger Bearcat .22 @@joeyfernandez7309
@KevinWestbrookAMI
@KevinWestbrookAMI 5 жыл бұрын
XD*
@RepentorPerish77
@RepentorPerish77 5 жыл бұрын
Until they get around water
@shaunthorton7090
@shaunthorton7090 4 жыл бұрын
@@RepentorPerish77 Because we all are going to be runnin and gunnin in water.
@BigChiefTomTom53
@BigChiefTomTom53 7 жыл бұрын
I love how ALL of the parts are interchangeable! If I want to put a SUBCOMPACT slide on the FULLSIZE frame, then it fits, and vice versa! The FULLSIZE frame will look goofy as Hell, but it'll fit the SUBCOMPACT grip :-D
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
Some of those combinations might result in the ugliest fully functional frankengun out there.
@BigChiefTomTom53
@BigChiefTomTom53 7 жыл бұрын
Hammer Striker You can do the same thing with Glocks.. Sig's been around for 150yrs, and Glock's been around for 30? who do you think came up with the idea first!
@indianalex01chief
@indianalex01chief 7 жыл бұрын
Justin Todd HK did.
@eolson1964
@eolson1964 6 жыл бұрын
i don't know where you are shopping for parts or guns, but was able to get a .40 caliber change kit for less than 300. I have both the P250 models and the new M17 320 model. All my handguns are Sig
@cliffthompson4149
@cliffthompson4149 4 жыл бұрын
Man I just purchased fnh FNX 45 15 + 1 + I love this gun. It's not good for concealed carry but it is great for when the s*** hits the fan. Good job on the video you were very detailed in your explanation of how that everything functions in both guns. And don't get me wrong I love my Sigs too. May God bless you always my friend!
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@stevedriscoll2539
@stevedriscoll2539 2 жыл бұрын
Well done review. You made short work of that take-down procedure with both guns. I went to a gun range yesterday having pretty much decided on the FN 509 but after looking at some different options and having to compromise a bit, I walked out with the Sig p365 macro. The biggest reason was the p365 is smaller and I think will be easier to make disappear for concealed carry. Of course, I feel a little bad I don't own the 509, but every choice involves trade-offs.
@sandymitchell8182
@sandymitchell8182 5 жыл бұрын
Having them side by side it looks to me you get a higher purchase on the FN. I'm searching for my next carry/Defensive gun or whatever you wanna call it. I feel it will be the FN, it just feels better in hand to me. but either would be a great purchase. OH BTW great video thanks
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The 509 does seem to feel better overall than the Sig.
@ee222
@ee222 7 жыл бұрын
as always, great review! i can't wait for your review of the p320 after sig does it's fix. as for the part in this review where you mention buying a different size frame than the slide length, something to consider as a positive would be having a longer frame than the slide. if the gun will function properly in this scenario, should one be in a situation where an assailant is pressed up against the p320, the longer frame can come in handy by allowing you to still use the gun as it might keep the gun from going out of battery.
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
Thank-you. When we get our P320s back we will definitely do a follow-up. There is a gun on the market called the Honor Guard that has a feature like that. Looks weird but I can see how in CQB it could come in handy.
@thespankdmonkey
@thespankdmonkey 4 ай бұрын
Interesting watching older videos. I carry a 320 compact. Wilson Combat frame and Tru Glo TFX Pro night sites. Accurate as can be. When I got it I actually was interested in the 509. May still pick one up because of this video. Did not know of so many similarities'.
@brendanlorente1968
@brendanlorente1968 4 жыл бұрын
I own both Fnx45 tactical and fnx 9 damn it......now I have to get a 509
@youngestson6537
@youngestson6537 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Minimal differences between the two guns.
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@briangreen550
@briangreen550 6 жыл бұрын
Completely different firearms.
@ConditionZero76
@ConditionZero76 Жыл бұрын
I think the block being the gun is great idea, it's gonna cost you a lil less for different calibers plus the modularity if you get tired of one color for another, spend 75 bucks you got an extra grip mod in a different color, or if you cant afford a metal grip frame up front spend less initially until you can save up to buy a metal frame ..💯👍🏼
@athroop1321
@athroop1321 6 жыл бұрын
Iv had a 320 c and carried it for probably 6 months and loved it. Then it had the drop test epidemic and I jumped ship. I felt like Sig had let us all down and lied or pretended they didn’t know about it then doesn’t do an actual recall to save money. Sig is dead to me. Now I’m all M&P and love my M2.0 compact.
@wslx0195
@wslx0195 5 жыл бұрын
A Throop interesting sine the drop issue is a non issue for most people; sig addressed it and It required a very specific drop angle. Smith and Wesson on the other hand has had serious QA issues lately. I own several sigs and m&p. A good m&p is good though.
@jaysonsikich2234
@jaysonsikich2234 3 жыл бұрын
Have the 509c tactical and a p320x compact! Love them both equally😁
@silentmajority7598
@silentmajority7598 7 жыл бұрын
I bought a P320 carry model. i love it. then i bought two of the 21 round magazines.I found that no matter how hard i tried, when loading those magazines by hand I was only able to load 19 rounds. it is impossible to load the full 21 rounds by hand due to the spring tension in the magazine. I was pissed off about that.
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
On a lot of these long pistol magazines, you have to tap the back of them periodically while loading them or they won't go to capacity. Load 10, tap on table/ground, load 8 or so, tap on table/ground, top off. I have been able to get 21 in mine using the above process. An UPLULA can also help a lot with mags like these.
5 жыл бұрын
I had to sigsauer P3 20 and one thing that really stood out to me is very useful feature grant you the modularity in my area for the first couple years the 320 was out oh they really weren’t any materials for you to upgrade or change out that has definitely changed grip modules are readily available magazines readily available calibered changes are also readily available they’re quite expensive I don’t know that I would recommend a caliber change to anyone unless you’re in a country or area where your limited in your firearm purchases for example in Germany you may only be able to have one gun license to you but with the caliber exchange kit you can have a different caliber very useful indeed where I find the modularity to be much more useful in the USA is that you can get different quick modules so if you want to get a different color or a different size you’re able to do that quite regularly and they’re only about 50 bucks the other thing that really sells me on a Sigg P3 20 is that the entire mechanism within the gun frame is removable and very very I did I say very? Easy to clean which is something I can’t say about any other gun I’m not sure about the bread on how that system works but I can tell you the sig. is very simple to clean this very simple to remove for the frame and there are a bunch of other internal pieces and springs and so forth that you need to worry about in bedded in the frame somewhere but you’re not able to remove easily from maintenanceAnd of course if something were to happen to your grip module and you cracked it or break a trigger guard or something like that you always buy a new one I have a new one on standby and swap them out so there is something in deed to be said for the modularity of this Gun I were cleaning and maintenance are concerned
@COESSI52
@COESSI52 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@nick3777
@nick3777 Жыл бұрын
what about a p320 wilson combat model. I been on the fence since I'm a sig fan but I'm open to options lol
@dustinkeim179
@dustinkeim179 4 жыл бұрын
I want to like the 320 but the grip feels very round , is rather have a slim weapon with a longer length of pull , the fn definitely is thinner and better bore axis
@jamesmorris2411
@jamesmorris2411 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a compact P320 or full size? The compact has a 15 round mag. I own both.
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 3 жыл бұрын
It is the "Carry", which is now discontinued though you can still get the grip frames.
@PopsDavis.the.disciple
@PopsDavis.the.disciple 2 ай бұрын
I own a 509 tactical and have shot my father in-laws p320 XCompact many times and have to say that although the p320 may have a slightly better trigger, the FN is the better shooter of the two. The 509 also has the better grip and sights but of course the modularity of the Sig are a big upside. Both great guns. Shooters preference.
@ProductiveStrings
@ProductiveStrings 4 жыл бұрын
Jus Bought Mines Sunday! So Excited 🤤🤤🤤
@twlttznr
@twlttznr 5 жыл бұрын
I like the FN. Trigger is just a little better. Fwitw
@TakeDetour
@TakeDetour 6 жыл бұрын
Like the FN way better!
@tomsimmo5789
@tomsimmo5789 7 жыл бұрын
Get a rubber ball and squeeze it 30 times 3 times a day to strengthen your fingers
@ee222
@ee222 7 жыл бұрын
great vid! i'm looking forward to clicking on the other review links in your details area. thanks for providing those, saves having to search for them! one question tho', you mentioned that the sig's take down lever is difficult to work. could this be something that loosens over time or do you have enough usage with this model to know whether or not this will always be the case?
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
+justo222 Thank you. That issue seems to be present on just this one of ours, but none of our others have been like that (even on day 1). I will probably inspect it to see why but I am not expecting it to loosen up on its own.
@Ablaze1983
@Ablaze1983 3 жыл бұрын
If it costs 3-400 dollars for a barrel and slide swap on the p320 and the gun as a whole is 5 and a quarter, wouldn't you just be better off spending the money on a whole new gun??
@robertserna9550
@robertserna9550 5 жыл бұрын
are those mid size?
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 5 жыл бұрын
No, these are more similar to the 19x with a "compact" slide and full-size grip.
@armedone4u
@armedone4u 2 жыл бұрын
One plus for the 509 is that it won’t discharge in your holster or pocket!!!
@boomee78
@boomee78 7 жыл бұрын
Hammer i have a fns 9, 9c, and 9 longslide is there enough difference in the 509 vs the fns brand
@82lowe36id
@82lowe36id 7 жыл бұрын
I have and FNS40 and now have an FN509. Here is what I see and my thoughts. I love FN handguns because to me they are good to go right out of the box. The 509 is same size as your FNS9. Main difference I would say is grip texture. Your FNS has more aggressive texture. The other smaller differences are different mag releases and sights. If you like changing sights the 509 may interest you since more common sights will fit it now. The 509 shoots really soft as well. That stood out to me right away. It has a dual captured recoil spring compared to the FNS with a single.
@CpLePorro
@CpLePorro 6 ай бұрын
I have both, I don't find any difference, it's a problem of personal choice. also the same precision accuracy. up to you
@toddmcdonald8493
@toddmcdonald8493 7 жыл бұрын
my local gun here in Frankfort has the 509 on sale for 429.00
@MGMCLL
@MGMCLL 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 509
@Precocktrigger
@Precocktrigger 3 жыл бұрын
What is your favorite brand?
@longwhip
@longwhip 7 жыл бұрын
i love them to
@willws2conceptsshephard
@willws2conceptsshephard 7 жыл бұрын
Had both got rid of both, miss 509!
@Bullcity75
@Bullcity75 7 жыл бұрын
Sig is having a PR nightmare over the P320 right now.
@johng6387
@johng6387 6 жыл бұрын
Why?
@andymccormick7542
@andymccormick7542 5 жыл бұрын
JL Griffin the first iterations weren’t drop safe and I think people were hurt or killed as a result
@GetDown-or-LayDown
@GetDown-or-LayDown 5 жыл бұрын
They threw in a disconnect immediately after this issue was raised... Not sure anyone got hurt but it's still not a good look
@wood-wheel-wizard
@wood-wheel-wizard 4 жыл бұрын
509 is nice but my p320 shoots way softer in my opinion, especially when compared to my glox
@NYG5
@NYG5 3 жыл бұрын
i think it's because the p320 is so beefy
@michaelcooper9523
@michaelcooper9523 3 жыл бұрын
FN all day
@CWB1863
@CWB1863 7 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing why you can't find the frames is probably due to the Army contract.Can't say that for certain, but pre contract, i could find them pretty much any place.In any case, love my P320sc, but lower the price on the frames.$50 is way over priced imo.Nice comparison by the way.
@protectiverailroaddad7541
@protectiverailroaddad7541 7 жыл бұрын
I like the 509, but I love the p320. I shoot my p320c exceptionally well, consistent 1 1/2" groups at 10 yard when I do my part. A few weeks ago I was shooting 10 shot groups at 10 yards and had 9 rounds basically through the same hole one time. Then I threw my last shot lol. The only striker gun I can shoot more accurately than the p320 is the ppq. I haven't stretched my p320 out to 25 yards, but I'm sure I can probably shoot 2" groups with it from a rest if I do my part and take my time
@mikebeach2516
@mikebeach2516 7 жыл бұрын
THAT ODG WON'T WORK WITH THE NEW GEN 2 SLIDE RELEASE. YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE THE IST GEN PART. THE NEW FRAMES COME WITH THE NEW SLIDE RELEASE WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE ON YOUR P320 NEWER MODEL. MY SUBCOMPACT WAS RELEASED IN OCT 2016 AND HAS THE GEN ONE SLIDE RELEASE. LOOK INTO IT HAMMER STRIKER.
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
Though it looks a bit odd since it does not line up with the ridge on the frame, it does work flawlessly. The gun locks back, the slide release does not bind and does release the slide when pressed. However, this is just one more implementation issue with the chassis concept. The concept is solid, but is being hampered by their execution of it.
@mikebeach2516
@mikebeach2516 7 жыл бұрын
OK. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND A NEW VERSION OF THE GRIP FRAME BUT AS YOU SAID THEY ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND. MAYBE IS IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND THE OLD SLIDE RELEASE WONT WORK ON THE NEW GRIP FRAME. LOVE YOUR CHANNEL MAN KEEP IT UP.
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
Thank-you. I hope Sig gets it together with the availability of these Grip Frames since that is one of the major bragging points of this particular firearm.
@justindurante1740
@justindurante1740 3 жыл бұрын
509 with a trijicon and lighter trigger spring money
@bquick80
@bquick80 4 жыл бұрын
Picked up a “pig p320” @8:54 😂 I know what ya meant!
@Benelli1989
@Benelli1989 6 жыл бұрын
how about because the FN 509 magazine cant be released without loosening grip or moving middle finger. such poor design. th ambi release hits your strong hand when pushing with thumb
@joeytomato
@joeytomato 2 жыл бұрын
FN doesn't beta test with their customers... Won't ever own another Sig unless it's almost as old as I am, comes in a cardboard box, and says made in Germany on it...
@mikes8915
@mikes8915 2 жыл бұрын
And the sig shoots on it's own dont forget that
@twlttznr
@twlttznr 5 жыл бұрын
Honour guard has a much better trigger. It is my preferred 9
@josh48315
@josh48315 4 жыл бұрын
Lol for real? It’s a total plagiarism of the M&P Shield... that said if it works for you then no blame here. But I would never recommend one
@Fir3LocksTV
@Fir3LocksTV Жыл бұрын
I own a 509 tactical it’s trash I just like it for the looks my glocks are way better but that sig is on a nxt level when it come to custom stuff or set up🤔
@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it
@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it Жыл бұрын
trust me. glock is also cool when it comes to customization.
@Constantly1Shot
@Constantly1Shot 7 жыл бұрын
Sigs website does list the carry model grip for $44. Currently at the time of this comment it does say in stock as well.
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
You are correct that they show in stock. However, when you try to choose certain sizes it gets messy. You will find that it is a limited selection available. For example the Black grip-frame (9/.40/.357) is only available in Medium - there are no other choices in the list. The ODG is available in Small and Large (but Large has been out-of-stock every time I have checked). The FDE which appears in the scroll window of colors - doesn't even appear in the picklist to choose from. So, some get lucky in that the particular size/color they want is one of the available ones.. Those with large hands (Hammer) are SOL. If you can live with Medium and just want to go between Carry, Compact, Full-Size or SubCompact then you are probably good to go.
@SHARK1202X
@SHARK1202X 6 жыл бұрын
I would pay $450 for an exchange kit... no background check. And it’s practically another gun... even at $500 it’s still cheaper...
@diegoandrade548
@diegoandrade548 Жыл бұрын
P320 #1
@ssn711
@ssn711 3 жыл бұрын
509 is a flat shooter & fine pistol. If only the mags didn’t cost so much :(
@joegondo5168
@joegondo5168 7 жыл бұрын
Bore axis looks different?
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
They are, Sig is known for high bore-axis on all of their guns. in 9mm it makes little difference but when you go into higher calibers the felt-recoil can be noticeably higher in the Sig.
@heaterfamily
@heaterfamily 7 жыл бұрын
I have sig 320 in all calibers...All have little to no muzzle flip...bore axis is bullshit. Angle of grip and design can offset that.
@19tank81
@19tank81 7 жыл бұрын
John Heater I totally agree! My Glock 17 is a bit more "jumpy" when firing double and triple taps. The SIG has a higher bore axis, and is a bit heavier, but it handles like a dream, better than the Glock. I'll never part with my Glock though lol, I love all my pistols.
@damon323
@damon323 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not recoil sensitive in any way possible, but bore axis isn't bullshit. You haven't shot many guns if you assume that.
@rosibelrodriguez3364
@rosibelrodriguez3364 2 жыл бұрын
Sig unmm so so FN👍
@BigChiefTomTom53
@BigChiefTomTom53 7 жыл бұрын
You called it a Pig P320 at 8:54... HaHa, was that on purpose?
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
LOL - no , though funny, it was not intentional. Probably got ahead of myself thinking about what to say next and slipped. I do like the P320.
@billyhines2734
@billyhines2734 7 жыл бұрын
The sig p 320 grip sucks.
@sigsauer3988
@sigsauer3988 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@horiturk333
@horiturk333 6 жыл бұрын
TThe P320 is what they came up with to salvage the P250 without having to design a completely new gun. The FN is more refined and isn't a rehash of a failed DAO pistol.
@tylerhaskiell1338
@tylerhaskiell1338 3 жыл бұрын
509 all day
@reddhazlight1496
@reddhazlight1496 7 жыл бұрын
Cabelas in omaha is sold out of all p320
@WY2WV
@WY2WV 4 жыл бұрын
509
@BlackHornetTactical
@BlackHornetTactical 4 жыл бұрын
Beretta APX for the win
@NYG5
@NYG5 3 жыл бұрын
as a beretta fanboy the APX just didn't wow me. Felt inferior to the PX4
@pietroromanelli541
@pietroromanelli541 2 ай бұрын
509 are the best
@tomsimmo5789
@tomsimmo5789 6 жыл бұрын
Hk vp9 beats both
@dexon555
@dexon555 7 жыл бұрын
You should clarify that you need a Concealed Carry Permit to purchase a firearm and take it home the same day in Florida.
@chadwallace3598
@chadwallace3598 7 жыл бұрын
What’s with everyone having to make sure the viewers know it’s unloaded? Do people cry about that or wat? Just seems funny
@HammerStriker
@HammerStriker 7 жыл бұрын
We (and other channels like ours) do that for a purpose, it is because there are different reasons people come to KZbin. Some come purely for entertainment (which is great), but many are new to firearms and come to KZbin to learn. As safe handling procedures are the most important factor of dealing with firearms, reinforcing it is important. An inexperienced shooter viewing our videos (or others with similar mindset) will be reminded of the need to be very aware of the state of the weapon in addition to following the other safety procedures. Every once in a while you hear of somebody being shot by an "unloaded gun" (obviously it wasn't) or during the cleaning procedure. Hopefully reinforcing the need to clear a weapon that is going to be handled for a reason other than actually firing it may educate somebody and prevent a tragedy.
@firstmkb
@firstmkb 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, I'm new, and felt a bit nervous when the host of another channel waved the muzzle "in my face." It just felt wrong! I appreciate the attention to detail, and reinforcement of etiquette of showing that the weapon is safe (versus "take my word for it").
@mikerbikex6656
@mikerbikex6656 5 жыл бұрын
@@HammerStriker Great answer, Hammer Striker. You do the right thing when you stress safety first.
@josh48315
@josh48315 4 жыл бұрын
It’s always good to reiterate safe gun handling, especially when new to guns viewers are watching. WAY better than the opposite scenario....
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