FNAF Movie THEORY - Abby's Dark Secret And Why It Matters | Five Nights At Freddy's Movie Explained!

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[@dwfan91-]

You cooked

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Learned from the best 🙏

[@RealMelodyHope]

Very interesting! I think Garrett might be possessing The Puppet, rather than Golden Freddy. The circumstances behind the death of the two kids - Garrett and the kid that becomes the puppet - are similar; they were both driven off. With your comment about how "he can’t see", I think it might be that The Puppet is constantly in the shadows of the pizzeria, and thus, it's hard to see. We also hear The Puppet's music box as the second end credits theme, after TheLivingTombstone's. It's most likely that The Puppet is going to be in the all-but-confirmed sequel. Also, apparently you could see The Puppet in some shots. Some have said that it was stage lights, but others have said it was The Puppet.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I have not seen the Puppet in any of the shots, but I did hear about the credits thing. It IS possible that Garret is in the Puppet, especially because I believe the crying child was originally possessing the Puppet back when Fnaf 4 was supposed to be the last game. But all the details like "it's me" in the mirror and the fact that Mike feels closer to Garret when at Freddy's leads me to believe Garret is in Golden Freddy.

[@theearthisphlat]

Garret being the puppet crossed my mind but we'll see. Also when it comes to hidden animatronics in shots the producers hid an endoskeleton they named Tina in a bunch of shots, i bet thats what people thought the puppet was

[@deinodinosuchus]

i don't know if the puppet shots were real, i remember in one scene people thought it was the puppet but it was actually an endoskeleton behind the stage. however it does say 'puppet' in the background while Mike is talking to the psychiatrist woman inside the classroom area along with some other lore-related words, not to mention the credits and the "Come Find Me" in the same voice as the "Save Them" minigame. but the "it's me" also is really convincing and like why could mike say he feels closer to garrett if the puppet wasn’t there if he’s not in the golden freddy suit? i'm excited to see where this all goes 😄

[@gdeveloper3309]

i agree with Garrett being the puppet personally, the puppet spells out "C-O-M-E F-I-N-D M-E" in the end credits which implies the puppet knows Mike, or knows Mike is searching for them. The puppet and Garrett's deaths are both similar with William driving off as well, could also explain why Mike feels closer to Garrett in Freddy's since its where the puppets been hiding likely/or connected to

[@AverageNoL]

Idk in fnaf one you are Mike Schmidt and you have an hallucinations that you can see golden Freddy in front of you and it's me text all over, could it be Garrett let Mike to recognize him?

[@no9ah103]

Honestly, this is the first theory ive heard that explains why the hell they chose Ella specifically, good job.

[@Shane_Incorporated]

Was literally working on a theory a lot like this lol! Well back to the drawing board for me.

[@saraiwithers3746]

this is actually a pretty good theory

[@everythinggirly916]

I think this theory explains a lot; it makes me see the movie in a new light. Great job!

[@1HourLoopedgameOST]

also I just realized I dont remember them ever using the scene where abby says "can we go home now?" but I might be wrong

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I think because it wouldn't make sense for Abby to say that and then also say "can we go back to see them" at the end of the movie.

[@1HourLoopedgameOST]

@@VaguelyRowlet yeah I think it makes sense that but I think its weird that they put that in the tv spot

[@robbyroba]

Makes no sense for Afton to steal his own son unless Mike was adopted into another family.

[@lilytheflower-4004]

1:30 I thought he just reacted like that because he knew Garrett’s last name and recognized it. But maybe there’s more to it

[@nasthesamurai8988]

Dude this theory is really good continue to do what you do

[@nasthesamurai8988]

You also just earned a follower

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Thank you!

[@Rabbit_lady]

I agree with you so much, One question I have, who is Vanessa's mother? Is it Mrs Afton or someone else?

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Either is possible. I'm expecting a flashback scene of Vanessa's childhood next movie so maybe we'll get an answer then.

[@rad1165]

I don't think it's Mrs Afton cuz she only exist in original games AU AR but not in the MOVIE AU alternate reality and not in the books Au AR.

[@mineec8508]

I think the mothers name is Mrs. Shelly because Vanessa’s second name is Shelly.

[@Ulvier]

This is by far one of the better movie related theories I've come across and it definitely helps aid to a lot of .. let's just say "plotholes" to make up for what I'm hoping isn't poor writing, but along the lines of your theory.

[@victorstalnacke1717]

I thought William kidnapped Garrett because he was William’s son. Maybe William and his wife divorced and she took both of his sons from him and he kidnapped Garret because he wanted to see his son again, don’t how or why he killed Garret but I guess we’ll see in the next movie.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

that's possible too, but I think it might be more compelling if he took specifically Henry's biological son to hurt him more? And Garret being Henry's kid could also tie in with Sammy's existence in the novels

[@niceque7001]

​@@VaguelyRowleti mean he aready took henrys child in the games, why notin the movie too?

[@susantherestorer]

I think that the female employee we see in the training video that Mike watches is William's wife. But that's just a theory:)

[@william5356]

Don't you mean like evan afton for william afton son.

[@cookiecrumblesz]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought this . Its a bit diffrejt to what I was theorising but fairly similar! It's nice to see someone with the same ideas :D

[@Pyraticalpunk]

This has some good compelling evidence, and while personally I wouldn't be a fan of the whole family drama/stealing aspect I fear you're right

[@theartanthologist7794]

I like this! It makes sense why they never created any romantic chemistry between Mike and Vanessa either since they would turn out to be siblings.

[@skelyjack3899]

I've heard Ab or Abby short for Abigail and Liz, Lizzy, Beth or Eli short for Elizabeth, but never Abby for Elizabeth. That's mental.

[@darkpain2452]

Abby is anagram for baby, the puppet AI created by henry Baby=Mimic1

[@jenniferkovalick2959]

Abby is also a nickname for Mable.

[@86aster]

The one problem I have with this theory is the lack of evidence. William might have reacted to the other name because he remembered killing Mikes brother or because that’s the last name for the Emily family in this time line.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I guess Schmidt could be the stand-in name for Emily but considering that Schmidt is a fake name that Michael uses in the games, and that William Afton is still called William Afton in the movies, I don't think there would be a reason to not use the name Emily Also, even if Willy recognized Mike's last name because he knew Garret's last name, that still means Willy was specifically following the Schmidts to Nebraska and kidnapped their son during a camping trip when all his other victims were from Freddy's

[@DotKom01]

If Garret is also possessing Golden Freddy it would explain the phrase "it's me" appearing after Mike talks to the blonde kid

[@darkXwolf1720]

This what I was thinking, the way she interacted with the animatronics and connections too them is just makes me think about Charlie. And to me Mikes younger brother looks similar to me to Crying Child. This just makes sense to me but who knows. We will know when fnaf 2 movie comes out. Rn I feel like Scott is cooking.. I can’t wait to see it but I will wait as long as it needs. Great theory, good points!

[@cunkjunk]

honestly i think the scene with raglan pausing and leaning in when he realizes who mike is, is because he's realizing "oh shit i killed this guy's brother didn't i. guess i gotta kill this guy too" but also this is a really neat theory!! i can see this also being just as plausible, but it also does kinda throw a big ol' wrench into me thinking mike/vanessa is a cute ship. aaaugggghhhh

[@Lgm105ROBLOX]

Fun fact he didnt wanna kill him

[@JakobeOG]

I had a feeling Mike was somehow not related to his "father". Isnt there a line where Mike says something about Abbys father and says "YOUR" or "HER" father and not "OUR" father? This theory would be great as it's basically the only explanation we could get to have Mike Schmidt actually be Michael Afton.. and I hope it's true

[@SCP-469]

No? Hell her only mention of him is her calling him DAD

[@markgaumee]

Every theory I see for this movie makes me love it even more. Great video and very solid theory.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Thank you so much!

[@Greencumulon]

This is the only theory that makes sense to me, keep up the good work dude, you're gonna go far

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Thank you!

[@Xotiic2250]

i fr was takling to my friend on saturday going abby could be the stand in for charlie before i even saw this good job on the video

[@1HourLoopedgameOST]

I think your right about golden Freddy but I like to call the kid Andrew because of the frights books and I makes more sense then Cassidy

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Yeah I know their name isn't said in the movie but since Cassidy is a gender-neutral name and I'm used to just calling the Vengeful Spirit that, I'll probably stick to Cassidy until the movies give him a proper name

[@1HourLoopedgameOST]

@@VaguelyRowlet ok

[@danielle5160]

One thing that might not work about this theory is the timeline: Mike isn't familiar at all with Freddy's, so if his parents were connected to Freddy's, they'd have had to left that behind when he was not born yet or at least very young. The reason that may be a problem is that we know that the MCI was at least some way into the 80s, and the movie takes place in 2000. As far as I know, we aren't told Mike's age, but he seems to be older than 20 - Aunt Jane never references him being too young to properly care for Abby, which you would expect if Mike was that young. Also, when Garrett was taken, which has to be at least around 10 years ago, since Mike has to ask if Abby even knows they had another brother, Mike seems to be at least 10 years old. The actor for young Mike, Wyatt Parker, is 13, so I doubt he's meant to be that much younger.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

The timeline is probably the biggest issue with this theory but I think it can still be worked around. Also, I wasn't aware the movie took place in the year 2000 LOL, does it say that somewhere in the movie

[@shinywhimsicott3047]

​@@VaguelyRowletit's on the security cam feed at Steve's office I believe

[@danielle5160]

@@VaguelyRowlet I never noticed any confirmed dates in the movie but in an interview Emma Tammi mentioned that it takes place in 2000.

[@Neku628]

I think in the movie, Michael was twelve when Garret was taken. I have seen someone that also saw the movie say that Mike is probably around 26-years-old. So, Garret was likely kidnapped in 1986, a year after the MCI.

[@M4t_P4tGT]

0:40 My dumbass accidentally said that Abby was short for Abriella 💀

[@VaguelyRowlet]

LOLL

[@william5356]

Crying child/Evan afton/Chris afton is fredbear Garrett schmidt is balloon boy Charlotte/charlie emily is the puppet Cassidy is golden freddy And Elizabeth afton is circus baby

[@zeldristhecactus1304]

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[@zombiethinking]

Really hoping Vanessa is revealed to be a kid he took and brainwashed into being his assistant to lure others in, and not his actual daughter, would make it closer to the game and add depth to the bizarre change.

[@SCP-469]

That’s not closer to the game. William has never done that

[@zombiethinking]

William never brainwashed and forced Vanessa into being his assistant in the game? Damn. That’s wild. Anyways hope you enjoy the games where she’s his daughter!

[@SCP-469]

@@zombiethinking No he’s never done that to kids. And raised them Also that depends on whether William or the Mimic is The anomaly

[@zombiethinking]

You’re right. He didn’t. My concept is to explain how Vanessa would be called his daughter in the film. We’re talking about the changes to the lore and how to make those changes work. Not the things unchanged. That’s what’s being discussed here. Thank you.

[@1HourLoopedgameOST]

I really like this theory it makes sense also only 5 more subs till you get 400! your growing so fast. congrats!

[@VaguelyRowlet]

thank you so much!

[@waterchild4396]

I thought the same thing but you explained it way better than I ever could 😅

[@lunar_ecl1ps]

this is exactly the line of thought i was having as i watched!! i rlly love this theory!

[@cheese7119]

If Mike and Vanessa are siblings then make sure u prepare to confront the Mike x Vanessa shippers 😭😭😭

[@IsabelleFenech]

This is such a cool and well thought out theory!

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Thanks!

[@RiyasathMohammed]

Hmm interesting. Hey did you notice that in the opening 8 bit scene Mike's name flashed purple but it changed to orange

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I actually did not but that's a nice catch!!

[@eloylie]

Literally the only person who understood the movie and clearly studied up on their fnaf lore. Now watch bigger youtubers gather around like hyenas and take it from him. I'm sorry little owl guy

[@disqorddoge1101]

Ok. So why dose Afton send Mike to Freddy’s to get killed? The only reason he doesn’t get killed right away is because his dream surfing throws the children off. Foxy was on his way to take him to the torture device the night Vanessa shows up but is disrupted both by Mike chasing him in the dream and by Vanessa showing up.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Well we know William is abusive towards his children considering Vanessa's situation, so I don't think Michael being William's biological son would save him from getting murked

[@korruptor9777]

@@VaguelyRowletbut their is no reason to kill him.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

@@korruptor9777 We don't really know any of William's motives for any of the killings he's done in the movies so far. He could've tried to kill Mike for the same reason he seemingly killed the first security guard at the start of the movie; assumedly to gather Agony/Remnant

[@sunshinebrightensyourday3948]

I like your theory of Abby can be the puppet but we just have to wait and see for the prequel sequel to come out in 2025 okay okay

[@eloylie]

OH LOOK SOMEONE SUPPORTS MY THEORY

[@Ninameeusen]

This actually makes sm sense

[@testmonkey2535]

wow i really hope this theory is true because it makes the movie make SOOO much more sense

[@mrspeanutbutter]

really cool theory,i did not even think about it

[@kekkywekker]

Great video as always!!! Love your stuff!

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Thank you!

[@awesomegirls10]

Okay but here's what we didn't see: What happened to Aunt Jane????? Where did she go after Abby left? There's never a funeral or anything shown. Did she live or die???

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I'm pretty sure she's dead. Maybe they'll mention a funeral in the sequel...I think they kill her off so that the problem of Mike being sued is taken away.

[@1HourLoopedgameOST]

yeah its weird that they dont mention her after she dies its weird

[@xxMinorusamaxx]

@@1HourLoopedgameOST She was literally dead-cold lying on the floor after Abby came out of the room to greet Golden Freddy. "Silly aunt Jane" is dead for sure.

[@1HourLoopedgameOST]

@@xxMinorusamaxx yeah but its weird that they dont mention her after that

[@Cherylinna]

First, interesting quandaries now that my head is spinning in different directions 😅 Did anyone else notice something off about the eye of child that’s golden Freddy being kind of off? When I went to the theater to see it again yesterday it looked like the eye that’s off on golden Freddy the child actors eye looks different too. 🤷🏻‍♀️ or I’ve seen it so many times now my mind is making up things 🫣

[@cupofsatori]

good job! genuinely. you may have changed my mind.

[@Barfigarfi]

Wait this makes so much sense wtf

[@una6013]

If the fans were writing the movie, this would be perfect. But I honestly think Vanessa is being set up to be Mike’s love interest, which would mean Mike can’t be William’s son (unless they’re doing a Luke/Leia thing 😑)

[@SCP-469]

If the fans were writing this movie it would be so much worse

[@RavenRGH]

3:17 fact: if you notice in the trailer, you will notice a video tape named "Mike"

[@thalitaheiderich3716]

I hope this is true, cause its a way to make this movie be less bad

[@retro8919]

Awesome video!

[@yellowrose0910]

Since when is "Abby", short for Abigail, "short for Elizabeth"?!

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I've been told because Elizabeth contains "abe" which becomes Abby? or something like that

[@gensischosen251]

I hope the step father theory ( which is Willian’s wife left him, son his son micheal and marry Henry ) Is true because there so much foreshadowing that Abby will evenly becoming Circus baby while Michael will go to sister location and try to save her. Is a missed opportunity if Scott Cawthon didn’t make that happen

[@Justadreamerr679]

I actually like this theory

[@maguszeal5818]

Wow..this is interesting and might wrap it up

[@maguszeal5818]

And it explains a lot

[@Markcrazeer]

Is he pulling the same twist as in the trilogy? Seems unlikely. While he does want to retel the same story over and over again he doesn’t seem to want to repeat himself. So it’s unlikely that Michael is sammy is garret. It is also unlikely that Abby is a Charlie bot. But they could be. William afton kidnaps Charlie Emily Schmidt / Michael Schmidt Emily, and in his grief sammy/garret becomes Michael and Henry breaks and makes a Charlie/Michael bot that is Abby but then the mom dies and Henry disappears so Mike doesn’t know how to activate the next bot and Jane knows nothing of any of this. So she thinks it’s just another little girl that she can take control over for the government money. Then Vanessa is Michael/Charlie raised as a girl? (I genuinely have no idea if the stolen child is the male Michael as the stand in for Charlie or Charlie herself.) because it is unlikely that Vanessa is the adult Charlie/Michael bot, I see no reason why he would have that in this situation. I do need to find out the big twist to this retelling of the story. (Also where the Charlie bots fit into the games.) Tangent warning: Henry should not be in 6 because the creator of baby dies in fang world. Meaning we are now up to 4 robotisists at fazbears. William that dies in his spring trap suit in the back room in the burning down of frights and the pizzeria simulator who can not be the unknown creator of baby that was either killed by baby or committed suicide Like Henry did in the book but that can not be Henry because he died in the simulator fire or if he is Edwin he made the mimic and then dies in a massive web of circuitry that is either in a baobab tree or a massive statue of Freddy running the entire pizzaplex but apparently the mimic and it’s mimic one program predates everything and was made by a 4th robotics engineer named Edwin that did die in a baobab tree having discovered that his old mimic was involved in running the place. So who the hell made baby? Or wasn’t it Henry that made the pizzeria simulator? Is our cassette man the Mike Schmidt to Michaels Vanessa?

[@samc08]

woahh this is actually a good theory

[@moritzwagner4332]

Wow very interesting theory.

[@objectedwinter]

Well.. this retcons that Henry Emily is on the fnaf tape that was left for mike…

[@johnphillip5585]

Also I subscribed.. you so underrated fr

[@VaguelyRowlet]

thank you!

[@legandofnaruto]

i knew something was bugging me and now i know why

[@shinywhimsicott3047]

So Ive had a theory very similar to this about games for a long time,but was always missing a few pieces to put everything together. I 100% support the idea Henry and William are both the fathers.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I have always suspected CC was Henry's kid because he just reminds me of Sammy from the novels, but that's not much to go off of. I feel confident about this idea applying to the movies though!

[@felipekane9611]

Interesting but i still think garrett is the puppet in this universe

[@libbyandtai]

Genius !

[@miagvinjilia]

Great theory! I like how you noticed things other people have missed. Also with the whole Abby is Charlie thing I think it's also important to point out how much abby looks like charlie (with her short brown hair.) All that said I'm not sure how I feel about Henry cucking William lmao.

[@Trash55355]

2:08 William cuckton real 😱!!?!?!?!!?

[@stevn744]

This is interesting however Garret and Mike are twins and the reason Afton recongnized Mike is because he took Garrett and Garrett and Mike looked familiar as children so I do believe mikes family is the Emily family but I don't think Mike is a Afton at all it's not like the games and novels

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I'm pretty sure Garret and Mike are not twins. Not only do the actors look nothing alike but also Mike was clearer a good deal older than Garret when William took him

[@ttvtranquility]

I thought in the movie they were setting up Mike and Vanessa to be lovers? But going on this theory that completely negates that thought entirely if it's true, I can't be the only one who saw the relationship between the two leading more to the lovers route?

[@VaguelyRowlet]

There were like...a couple things that made me think they might've been going in that direction like when Vanessa makes that comment about his heart and later asks him to dance? So I guess it's an either this theory is true and they're not going to be romantically involved or this theory is wrong and they will be romantically involved... ...Or this is the worst timeline and the theory is true AND they're going to be romantically involved and we do a luke/leia thing...

[@ttvtranquility]

AHAHAH love it mate

[@VaguelyRowlet]

@@ttvtranquility Thank you so much! 🤍

[@miagvinjilia]

Or maybe Vanessa knows that Mike is her half-brother and is trying to reconnect with him but is so awkward about it that it accidentally comes across as flirty.

[@laurengaut42]

I ain’t gone lie when it first heard about 2 would in one suit my first thought was, someone where this story got so convoluted that they realized they put 2 people in one character and just went with it. 😂 cause that shit still don’t make no sense 😅. As if they put the stuff out first then added the lore later once the community started giving ideas to what they think was going on lol

[@DamsilinDistress]

One of the best theories I've heard about the fnaf movie. If not solved it.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Thank you!!

[@benjamintic3653]

Ok but like if Michael is an Afton then how does Vannessa not remember him? Their ages are never implied but its weird to believe she wouldn't know of him. Even if Mike was an Emilx, why doesn't he know of the pizzeria? The theory just creates too many plotholes and saying that miss. Afton and Henry were together has no basis whatsoever...

[@VaguelyRowlet]

If Vanessa is younger than him, then that's why she wouldn't know of him. But also, we don't know that she didn't know about him before they met conclusively. We'll have to wait for the next movies to shed some light on that topic. The reason why Mike wouldn't know about the Pizzeria is because Henry and Mrs. A fled the scene and changed their names shortly after Freddy's closed down. Remember, I said that Michael was probably an unborn baby when Mrs. Afton left William, so he would grow up never knowing about Freddy's at all

[@Sonicmid]

This is a good theory, though. I don’t think Michael in the movies is an Afton. I am 100% sure the intention is to do a switch of William and Henry’s family’s. and I don’t think Garrett is golden Freddy. I’m pretty sure he’s the puppet definitely hitting the subscribe button I like this channel.

[@retro8919]

Two questions. Why and how does Abby speak with the kids before Mike even works at the pizzeria? Why did William try and kill Mike if Mike is his son?

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I don't know why and how Abby has a pre-established connection with the kids before she goes to Freddy's, but I mention that at 6:10 . I personally see it as more proof that Abby is supposed to be Charlie. I think its clear based on how WIlliam treats Vanessa that he doesn't care about his kids and has no problems abusing them, manipulating them, or killing them. Furthermore, if we're going by the timeline of events I propose in my theory, then Mrs. Afton left William before Mike was even born so its not as though William could've gotten attached to Mike anyway.

[@retro8919]

@@VaguelyRowlet fair points! And I hope your theory is right since it makes the most sense! In the movie I was shocked William stabbed her, brutal way to treat your own daughter!

[@origin484]

correct me if i’m wrong on this, but is abby not mike’s half-sister? i remember this particular detail in the movie so if it is true it’s definitely not possible for mike’s mom to have given birth to her lol otherwise, yeah this would be an interesting way to take the films :]

[@VaguelyRowlet]

That's interesting, I don't remember that at all. Importantly though, it still changes nothing about Abby or her being a counterpart to Charlie, since she would need to be the daughter of Henry to do that, not necessarily the daughter of Mrs. Afton. If anything, that would work better for this theory, but again I don't remember the movie ever saying Abby was Mike's half-sister at all. I don't think that works with the timeline of events..

[@ImmortalAbsol]

I think Garrett is the Puppet/Charlie, was originally male after all. Also, don't think Sparky is a Springlock, looks to be like Freddy or Bonnie in torso design. Is it just me or does "torture Freddy" as Dawko calls it look like Dreadbear?

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I see the resemblance

[@Joshchive]

I think the final confrontation needs to be taken into account A LOT when you were researching this video. In the final confrontation, its made pretty obvious that William has a very cold/lack of emotional attachment to Mike at all. His intentions are made pretty clear *"First I killed your brother, now I kill you."* We now know 100% he killed Garrett, and he wants Mike dead simply because *"Symmetry my friend!"* it doesn't go, nor does it need to go much deeper beyond that. Why does he kill Garrett? Cause you know, hes a murderer. And he literally kills five other children randomly, so its not hard that he simply took Garrett out of opportunity, just like the other kids. Also Abby's existence wasnt even known until she was brought to the Pizzeria by Mike, and then the ghost children learned about her, and Afton learned about her through the kids. He says it himself during the final confrontation *"The little ones tell me have a Sister!"* His odd reaction when reading Mike's name is because he recognizes it as the same sir name of Garrett, who's name he definitely would have seen all over the news after he kidnapped and killed him. And also, Mike was there the day Garrett got taken, so Afton saw him as well. Hence his reaction, and why he winced at him, he has to make sure it is who he thinks he is. And then all of a sudden he get super friendly, why? Cause he wants to convince Mike to work at Freddy's, which works, so he can get murked. As we see Foxy and even William himself try to do himself. Cause again, "Symmetry my friend!"* Mike has absolutely no reaction to hearing the name "William Afton" when Vanessa reveals it to him cause its obvious he has no idea who that is. If that were his father he would have recognized the name instantly. Its only when she reveals that Afton is *her* father does Mike have any kind of emotional reaction since he feels betrayed and lied to. Also the entire plot twist of a character being Afton's child was used on Vanessa, so having Mike be also his child (even though he isn't in this timeline) would be a completely redundant writing choice. I get what you were going for here, but theres too much trying to compare this obvious new lore to completely separate continuity which makes the movies plot more complicated then its trying to be. Its just reaching at too many straws that either aren't there or are too vague to stake a claim one. For once in this case, FNAF is in fact, not that deep. Still a good video though.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I'm going to go through your argument point by point for organization's sake. There's no reason for William to have any attachment to Mike, really. Not only does my theory postulate that Mrs. Afton fled William when Mike was an unborn child, but William clearly doesn't have any attachment to Vanessa, who is his biological child, and does not hesitate to stab her. William may be a murderer, but the kidnapping of Garret was clearly premeditated. I really don't think he would see a random family driving to Nebraska for a camping trip and be like "yeah I don't have anything to do this weekend, i'll just follow them and kidnap one of their children". There had to be a real motive Mike has no reaction to William Afton because not only was he taken away before he was even born or when he was very young, but Afton even changed his name to Raglan so there's no chance Mike could've heard of him afterwards anyway. Yeah from a writing standpoint, I'm not quite sure how I feel about this being a part of the story but the video was more about where I think the plot is going more than where I would want it to go

[@Gmex_ONE]

Good video 👍

[@JohnsWorld19]

I LOVE THIS YOU COOKED if it's all right with you i have an entire 26 bits of evidence on mike in the film being an Afton id love to share with you on discord if that's ok with you?

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I'm glad you enjoyed! Unfortunately, I don't exchange Discord info over KZbin, I'm sorry!

[@JohnsWorld19]

@@VaguelyRowlet nah it's fine if i make a video on mike afton in the film can i use some of the stuff you said If I credit you?

[@VaguelyRowlet]

@@JohnsWorld19 Of course!

[@maa7893]

For the FNAF movie, I feel like William Afton was supposed to be played by Willem Dafoe, but not just the real William Afton because he is friendly, but William Afton's two identical triplet brothers, such as Richard Afton, he is okay, and Vincent Afton, he is the real villian that should've been in the Spring Bonnie suit, and Matthew Lillard should be casted as just Steve Raglan, But they're all just my opinions.

[@PaperRouteP3tro]

Idk but this shit is nice!!! I ❤️ it

[@Neku628]

Wasn't Max stuffed into the springlock dog suit? Also, why does Balloon Boy appear in Michael's locker when he first comes to work at Freddy's and he has to turn the plastic toy around? That one shot with one-eyed Freddy, it looked like there was a hand laying in the socket, maybe I am just seeing things since I did watch a FNAF analog horror where kids' limbs were coming out of the animatronics. I did have a similar theory about the cupcake, that William Afton might have cut up the kids' bodies and put them in the animatronics, well mainly the one possessing Chica, Susan. Well, not her, but the kid with the top hat who I think was actually possessing Freddy Fazbear and not put in Chica alongside Susan while his hand was put into the cupcake. I hope I am making sense. There were four animatronics and five kids, so I just assumed that two of the kids were sharing Chica and one of them, somehow controls the cupcake. It does sound stupid. I would love to keep it to where Michael is actually Abby and Garrett's brother and in no way, related to Vanessa Afton. The whole, "I ran off with your pregnant wife and you kidnapped my son" just seems very cliche. I prefer to keep it to where in the books that Abby and Garret's father is actually the one that built the animatronics.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

The fifth kid is possessing the one-eyed freddy, which is Golden Freddy Max was seemingly stuffed into a different suit NEXT to the dog suit The Balloon Boy thing is probably just an easter egg and a cute jumpscare

[@alexisruiz5144]

I think maybe the golden freddy kid might also posses mr cupcake cus of his stripe and also because as we saw in the taxi, golden freddy is very heavy and slow so the golden freddy kid posses the cupcake to go faster but he cant go outside because of the animatro ic program so he use the golden freddy suit! Or maybe that is completly wrong and the cupcake is posses by susie dog😐

[@VaguelyRowlet]

@@alexisruiz5144 honestly the way that Chica and the cupcake combo kill makes me think Susie has control over both of them

[@alexisruiz5144]

@@VaguelyRowlet yeah true

[@galcio3193]

I wanted to make this video 😭😭

[@cheese7119]

Wait wait wait- so you're saying that the woman cheated on William with Henry??? And that's why there's no trace of William's wife in none of this and that's why he makes ballora, as he wants to rebuild his family so that means his wife too? Who just dipped without the kids? Man I didn't think we'll have kid custody debates in the fnaf lore- but here we are

[@cheese7119]

DOES THAT MAKE MIKE AND VANESSA SIBLINGS??

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Well, maybe not CHEATED, more like, LEFT William for Henry once she found out that William was doing all that child murdering and science experiments. My theory says that by the time Mrs. Afton divorces William, her only child with William was Mike, whom she was pregnant with. So she didn't really dip without the kids. In the movie at least. In terms of Ballora and how all this relates to the games, what you're saying is definitely possible! Also, this theory postulates that Mike and Vanessa would probably be half-siblings, related only through their father, William.

[@cheese7119]

@@VaguelyRowlet I like the theory c: very nice

[@jacdoodle]

why would a father try and kill his son also, i don’t think the nebraska thing is important it’s just mike needs the poster to make the dream “work”

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Well William does literally stab Vanessa who is his daughter so I don't think he's above killing his son what I meant about the Nebraska thing is, why would William follow a completely random family to Nebraska (Remember, Mike specifically states they went camping in Nebraska) and kidnap one of their kids, when all of his other victims have just been at Freddy's

[@jacdoodle]

@@VaguelyRowlet hmmm okay 👍

[@tracypascua1038]

Scott Cawthon confirmed Mike isn't an Afton.

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Could you post a link to this?

[@IronBubble17]

Who do you think is going to possess the puppet in the next movie? Or do you think it won’t be possessed and will be a security kinda thing?

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Hard to say. Abby might end up possessing the puppet, or it might be a new character entirely. I've heard a lot of people say Garret's possessing it, which I guess COULD work, but all the evidence I pointed out in my video is making me stand firm on the hill that he possesses Golden Freddy

[@SamDragontear]

I've noticed that a lot of Mike parallels in the Fazbear Frights have a stepparent. I've a bit of an in my head theory that the Afton and Emily children might have the same mother.

[@amdete8254]

Eu achava que era o chaves na thumbnail por um segundo

[@goldwasbanned]

This entire movie was leaked in my discord server💀

[@xhacknight]

Nice theory

[@VaguelyRowlet]

Thank you!

[@Sunnysandy13]

So is mikes brother the puppet I think I am right I know it is going to be his brother but I want to be shore

[@VaguelyRowlet]

It's possible, but we can't know for sure yet. There is evidence that he is also possessing Fredbear alongside the Vengeful Spirit

[@whydidtheballooneatthefox282]

Gg theory, love this!

[@VaguelyRowlet]

thank you!

[@mcrayden8599]

Ok… I think people can stop stretching to make Micheal Williams kid, I don’t think that’s the intention in any way like the games, but it’d also be a dumb put of nowhere twist at this point. Also, I think as of rn, golden freddy only has the one spirit we see in the movie, because Garret is probably the puppet.

[@springus.]

i always hoped that if any child was to appear in the fnaf movie franchise it would be charlie as the puppet. she was william's first kill, and the character of charlie alone is difficult to reimagine. i hope that blumhouse and scott agree to keep charlie and the puppet as book/game lore accurate as possible (i don't mind which) since charlie's voice and role in the franchise as a whole are so iconic, and hearing the name "charlotte emily" in the movie would hit so much harder as opposed to some mediocre made up name or half-assed reveal that it was abby or someone along those lines.

[@johnphillip5585]

If Abby dies I’m going to lose my friggin mind

[@Taqruinnius]

Here we go guys. Now instead of FNAF video game theories we're getting FNAF movie theories

[@xlovleysunnyx5604]

I like your theory! But I see some people also think she is a representation of Carlton from the books instead of Charlie

[@VaguelyRowlet]

I understand why, but I think, much like multiple other aspects of the movie, the whole drawing pictures thing is just a story beat taken from the novels rather than Abby being a representation of Carlton

[@xlovleysunnyx5604]

@@VaguelyRowletoh ok

[@xlovleysunnyx5604]

Also I’m late, but I made a connection with why Abby likes to build forts so much, it could be a reference to how the puppet is in a box and how he spends most of his time there listening to music, I know Abby isn’t the puppet in this alternate universe (or AU) but it would make sense if she is supposed to represent Charlie?

[@HaileyBugYT]

I really hope they don't make Mike an Afton.

[@Bulgogifarts]

But then why did they name mike as mike and garret as garret, it’s both canon to the main story