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FOCAL ELEX _ (Z Reviews)

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@rajatbansal512
@rajatbansal512 5 жыл бұрын
Subscribing to this channel has been such an expensive mistake
@nl_2652
@nl_2652 4 жыл бұрын
facts. found my main loudspeakers and dac... and headphone amp here. soon a new pair of headphones too!!
@zev51104
@zev51104 4 жыл бұрын
Expensive? Yes. Mistake? No. However, your friends and family will definitely think you're and f*@ckin lunatic. Sadly this is the truth
@max-6035
@max-6035 3 жыл бұрын
It learned me a very valuable life lesson, self control. A nearly 2000$ very valuable ish life lesson.
@disco4535
@disco4535 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm easily manipulated by ramble marketing man, and buy plastic that's overpriced and that I don't want or need" 😁
@vintageflanker7096
@vintageflanker7096 5 жыл бұрын
Wanna hear a funny thing? : Massdrop cannot ship these "made in France" headphones... to France. 🤔
@bpjbp
@bpjbp 5 жыл бұрын
You sure they aren't "assembled" elsewhere?
@vintageflanker7096
@vintageflanker7096 5 жыл бұрын
@@bpjbp I don't know. It is written "fabriqué en France" on it.
@bpjbp
@bpjbp 5 жыл бұрын
@@vintageflanker7096 "assembled in" and "made in" are two different things. Parts can be "made in" one country, but "assembled" elsewhere -- but still deserve the "Made in" stamp.
@nagaame7464
@nagaame7464 5 жыл бұрын
They are made an assembled in France. They are shipped from France and the only thing Massdrop does before sending them is a quality check. You can see this in the comments :)
@bpjbp
@bpjbp 5 жыл бұрын
@@nagaame7464 I have searched the entire Massdrop description. The only thing I see about "assembled" is "The drivers are assembled by a handful of technicians". Nothing about assembled in France. Where do you see it?
@James-rv3yi
@James-rv3yi 4 жыл бұрын
These headphones ruined my listening. Now every-time I hear something fall in the background during porn I have to take my headphones off and look for what fell.
@alanm6o9
@alanm6o9 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahhaha
@WSlopeAggie
@WSlopeAggie 2 жыл бұрын
why watch porn when your headphones *are* the porn
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
Z you are truly a living legend. You are a combo of cat guy meets anime guy meets audiophile meets Jon Lovitz meets "goes to grocery store in pajamas and slippers" guy. 10/10
@kailerpetersen6404
@kailerpetersen6404 3 жыл бұрын
You blow
@get2choppa
@get2choppa 4 жыл бұрын
Condensed review is at 5:52
@smokeshadow
@smokeshadow 4 жыл бұрын
"Condensed" lol
@thetruth34o9
@thetruth34o9 5 жыл бұрын
5:20 "could come with shoelaces, could be a dead rat in the box" hahahaha
@ATK.
@ATK. 4 жыл бұрын
You have to eat the dead rat to get the headphones to work, that’s how worth they are.
@anarchohelenism
@anarchohelenism 5 жыл бұрын
Zeos is absolutely right about these. It's scary how good they sound. Endgame for me.
@LewisHolford
@LewisHolford 3 жыл бұрын
Shame about the clipping
@anarchohelenism
@anarchohelenism 3 жыл бұрын
@@LewisHolford You know, I haven't heard it at all in the year I've had them, but of course I can't speak for everybody.
@LewisHolford
@LewisHolford 3 жыл бұрын
@@anarchohelenism that's crazy, my set clips like mad. The Drop reviews are absolutely riddled with complaints about it
@anarchohelenism
@anarchohelenism 3 жыл бұрын
@@LewisHolford Sorry to hear that man. It's a pretty excellent headphone besides that.
@shoobopper
@shoobopper 3 жыл бұрын
@@LewisHolford Has it always clipped? Wondering if buying a used pair without clipping would resolve this issue.
@bharat2580
@bharat2580 5 жыл бұрын
After your journey starting from the 600's now that you listened to almost everything, How about reviewing the hd600s again and see where they stand and how much your taste has changed and what has changed when it comes to how you like your music. Because i still prefer my 650s to anything else i heard.
@nickpelayo3172
@nickpelayo3172 5 жыл бұрын
I still have my 650s four years after getting into this hobby. Still in my top 5
@buster7618
@buster7618 5 жыл бұрын
I'll always keep my 660s in the collection, think I may grab a 600 also while I still can.
@alvarg
@alvarg 5 жыл бұрын
same, they have a balance and smoothness to the sound that nothing seems to beat.
@babagonzaga
@babagonzaga 5 жыл бұрын
@@alvarg totally agree with that! I bought a pair of LCD-2C a few weeks ago to replace my HD600s. Guess what? 2C's returned, kept my HD600s lol. They were excellent, but had cons I can't live with.
@ibage508
@ibage508 5 жыл бұрын
Had my HD600 for seven years at this point. I've upgraded to the ZMF Eikon, but the HD600 will always be part of my collection in some capacity
@MarkLloyd-yo4li
@MarkLloyd-yo4li 22 күн бұрын
I cant tell you how many times ive watched this review . This is such a great review of this product that made me buy a pair . Im really enjoying them 5 years later .
@RathOX
@RathOX 5 жыл бұрын
whelp time to Save, just bought a THX 789...next purchase from MD are these thanks zeos
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get them yet? I had the Elear and I’m still deciding if I want to try the Elex. I actually liked the Elear. I sent them back due to a scratch on the top of the leather headband and a scratch on the earcup hanger that I just couldn’t get past. Something that expensive I just want them perfect. I already have the Elegia so I’m doing the .....Do I NEED the Elex thing.
@RathOX
@RathOX 3 жыл бұрын
@@Assimilator702 yes, yes you them!!
@adamjensen5015
@adamjensen5015 5 жыл бұрын
The Elex are in stock, so they'll keep re-launching the drop until the run out of stock. It's not timed like normal drops where you can only order within the time period, with these you can order as long as they have stock.
@semtexxl
@semtexxl 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, drop says active for another 24 hours then says inactive for a sec then reset again to 24 hours :) Get them till you can I say.
@TraceLight
@TraceLight 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Jensen yeah guess what happened to the THX amp. RIP
@brad_wilson
@brad_wilson 5 жыл бұрын
8 months later... not only are these still my favorite headphones, but I love them even more after getting a Darkvoice 336SE.
@Pyregazer
@Pyregazer 4 жыл бұрын
I like them on my Lyr3 with a specific tube, unfortunately..one of the most expensive and older nos tubes @ 100$ per. I would like to pick up a Darkvoice at some point and bonus.. it uses the same 6sn7 tubes that I have a lot of now.
@garrettstrand3486
@garrettstrand3486 5 жыл бұрын
Just picked these up for 550 with like 5 hours on them. Best headphones I have ever listened to. Also great for gaming and pinpointing enemies.
@johnstone1687
@johnstone1687 4 жыл бұрын
Garrett Strand do you still use these for gaming? How do they hold up?
@eknox4748
@eknox4748 4 жыл бұрын
John Stone boy them explosions tho
@ELSA-ex4ph
@ELSA-ex4ph 5 жыл бұрын
It would be funny if zmf and massdrop have a deal for zeos to sell their products because most of the audio file community agree that the utopia and the clears are a clear upgrade from the elex but he puts off them both and boast up the elex so boom like the thx aaa 789 gets a influx of sales and praises massdrop
@insatiablefondu4587
@insatiablefondu4587 8 ай бұрын
I got these a year ago, and coming from things like the sundara, and the HD 560S. still lifechanging to this day
@aldphillip2003
@aldphillip2003 5 жыл бұрын
The Utopias are heavier because it’s a totally different driver design, especially in the segmented magnets.
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 3 жыл бұрын
Driver design is the same. Only magnet structure and actual diaphragm material is different. Overall design of driver is exactly the same between all the Focal drivers.
@dnalekaw4699
@dnalekaw4699 5 жыл бұрын
11:18
@PikX221
@PikX221 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda glad that I don't have enough money because if I had, this guy would have break my bank account to oblivion :/
@kellanmackenzie5230
@kellanmackenzie5230 5 жыл бұрын
It's a disease
@sauhamm3821
@sauhamm3821 5 ай бұрын
$399 is a steal for these if you don't own a pair...
@redstang5150
@redstang5150 3 жыл бұрын
Just watching this review for the second time after watching Joshua's review. I like it when you guys have like the complete opposite takes on aspects of a set of headphones.
@huntersmark917
@huntersmark917 11 ай бұрын
Almost 5 years later. Just got my pair in based off another reviewer. Came here to see if i made the right choice. Im happy i bought them, best sounding heaphones I have by far.
@rommyisme
@rommyisme 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I love this headphone. I buy them through drop following your recommendation. The detail is exquisite and these are very fun headphones. I like these more than fostex TR-X00 and dt 1770 pro...Although it works brilliantly with jazz, classical and acoustics as it brings life to those instruments, it also works well with well-recorded pop and edm. My maroon 5 tracks become a beast with these headphones. :)
@thesignof33
@thesignof33 5 жыл бұрын
Great! I thought I was the only freak around still listening to Interstellar soundtracks..
@filovirus1
@filovirus1 4 жыл бұрын
actually this is the best review of Focal Utopia 9:54 saving up for Elax starting today
@pedecia
@pedecia 5 жыл бұрын
HOw do all these sound with different AMPs and not an Italian Reference AMP that cost quite a fortune? Do you still fund the same differences among them with an AUNE or THX789? Would have been nice if you tested them live with a different set of AMPs. Thanks.
@derp1090
@derp1090 4 жыл бұрын
Found a used set for 430 shipped. First time in the used market so we still see how it goes.
@hedrickoYO
@hedrickoYO 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, I once got 1990's from amazon new condition labeled "used" for 349 but I returned them for 660s which I regret
@luckychuck4818
@luckychuck4818 3 жыл бұрын
On MassDrop currently for $550 and THX 789 for $279. Estimated ship date is Dec 11, 2020 PT.
@billboys9283
@billboys9283 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Awesome headphones. Couldn't believe the price.
@swilkins1984
@swilkins1984 5 жыл бұрын
Got this mint on Ebay for $587 on Ebay and it's the best dynamic headphone that I own. I had an Elear and it's a great headphone but selling it for my Elex fund was a great decision.
@JesterfaceBassplayer
@JesterfaceBassplayer 5 жыл бұрын
25% Import tax, even if my friend send them to me from the US as a gift. That's basically adding the price of Sennheiser Jubilee's with shipping on top.
@aethertech
@aethertech 5 жыл бұрын
58X, 6XX, EleX. Imaging Monster. Sennheiser Vocal Goodness Monster. EleX, monster. Massdrop, you so gooooood.
@Narinjas
@Narinjas 5 жыл бұрын
I am in Romania ... i do not have them available in Romania ... i also want the THX AAA 789 AMP and the only thing i can buy is the GESHELLI Labs ENOG2 Pro DAC (and yes you can contact Sherri on Facebook because they are currently small they are easy to talk to sadly they can not send other products then their own ...)
@marklloyd4153
@marklloyd4153 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like they were all up in your business. Can’t believe it was 5 years ago
@turbomustang84
@turbomustang84 5 жыл бұрын
Zeos has moved away from these but something about this review makes me want them just can not afford it yet
@ciscomoto
@ciscomoto 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Zeos Keep doing your thang man.
@kvell24
@kvell24 9 ай бұрын
Grabbed these for $400 a few years back on a grey market site. To this day I haven’t heard any full sized headphone under $1000 that I like better. It’s up there with Thieaudio Monarch Mk3 as my favorite audio purchase in general
@ksceltic1104
@ksceltic1104 4 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of discussion on the clipping problems with the Elex, so why is there no mention of this on the review, either to confirm, negate, or whatever?
@blatancyproductions8246
@blatancyproductions8246 4 жыл бұрын
Still that great a year later? (Compare against sendyaudio?)
@MrPkimura
@MrPkimura 5 жыл бұрын
Focal Elex + THX AAA 789 + Balanced DAC = Making Babies
@Sebastian_Athea
@Sebastian_Athea 5 жыл бұрын
THX AAA 789 has single ended back end, volume and gain control. XLR gets converted to SE, and back to balanced after vol control, so balanced dac won't make a difference compared to single ended dac.
@andreaszetterqvist4272
@andreaszetterqvist4272 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sebastian_Athea what are you talking about? Balanced all the way to the headphones
@speed0
@speed0 5 жыл бұрын
@@andreaszetterqvist4272 I believe he means it's not a truly balanced amp. Sure you can run XLR into it, and 4-pin balenced out, but the hardware itself is not balanced.
@tormaid42
@tormaid42 5 жыл бұрын
Andreas Zetterqvist no, he’s right read the posts from the manufacturer on massdrop
@Sebastian_Athea
@Sebastian_Athea 5 жыл бұрын
@@andreaszetterqvist4272 Uhhhhh NO. "AndrewMason THX Ltd. Analog & Power Engineering Expert MadMan007 @MadMan007 There are some very expensive, very nice opamps in there! Supporting truly balanced signal pathway throughout would shoot the cost through the roof, for negligible improvement. See Bruno Putzeys' EDN article on why having truly balanced signal path isn't necessary. "Symmetry is useless". " Differential transmission of audio doesn't mean you need to make a symmetrical voltage " www.edn.com/design/consumer/4429968/2/The-G-word--How-to-get-your-audio-off-the-ground "
@_Digitalguy
@_Digitalguy 5 жыл бұрын
They don't ship to Europe. I'll have to content myself with my HD58X. Are these night and day with HD58X or only slightly better?
@johnyang799
@johnyang799 5 жыл бұрын
Overall i say better? But they are different. 58x is much smoother. elex is more "hifi". Actually they both have flaws and are not perfect. You will enjoy 58x.
@_Digitalguy
@_Digitalguy 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnyang799 what do you think are the flaws of the 58x? I have it since July and only have supposedly "inferior" headphones to compare like the 598 and the focal spirit pro, so I am curious to know what are the flaws (many people consider it better than Hd600). And what are the flaws of the elex? One of the main use for my headphone is playing digital pianos (so neutrality and "vocals" are very important)
@bened22
@bened22 5 жыл бұрын
@@_Digitalguy For vocals the HD6XX (or HD650) is king. Since you don't need soundstage the Elex' might be overkill.
@_Digitalguy
@_Digitalguy 5 жыл бұрын
@@bened22 Soundstage is definitely a plus for piano. The big issue with my Focal Spirit pro is that they sound claustrophobic, which for piano is a deal breaker. The HD598 make you feel like you are wearing no headphones which is what you do when you play a real piano. But the Hd58x, while more intimate, sound better, though the difference it's definitely not night and day... I don't thing Hd6xx would add enough compared to Hd58x, that's why I was wondering if the Elex would make the piano sound even better...
@spronkey
@spronkey 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard the Elex, but I have heard many headphones that are supposedly "superior" to them. As of yet I don't believe there is a headphone in the world that is "night and day" better than the HD58X. The HD800/s is more detailed, and faster. But it isn't as enjoyable to listen to, as it's a bit cold and sterile, and voices don't sound quite as natural. The Hifiman planars (500, 560 etc) are great, and detailed, and "fast", but again the 58X/600/650 isn't that far behind in those respects, and sounds better in others. Same with things like the higher end Grados (of which I'd say the HD6xx range is just outright superior), Audeze LCDs. I've always maintained that the HD6xx range (and that includes the 58X) gets you 90% (or higher) of the way there. The "better" headphones cost multiples and get you maybe a few percent more at best.
@gbaudio9034
@gbaudio9034 5 жыл бұрын
This is worth mentioning: elex driver bottoms out when pushed loud on bass tracks. Utopia’s magnet is better so it doesn’t bottom out.
@lawrencewang3327
@lawrencewang3327 5 жыл бұрын
Bottom out you mean it drops off heavy and doesn't have good sub bass extension?
@julianf2468
@julianf2468 5 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Wang No, bottoming out is the cone literally reaching its excursion limit and distorting exponentially.
@lawrencewang3327
@lawrencewang3327 5 жыл бұрын
@@julianf2468 damn sounds whack
@billboys9283
@billboys9283 5 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencewang3327 It DOE$ distort bass at certain volumes. These are so good that I overlook it. But it IS happening and may be a buzzkill for some folks. I don't like having to turn volume down so that I can listen. Still, they're worth it.
@MFillmore
@MFillmore 5 жыл бұрын
That does happen but only if you listen at VERY high volumes. Isn't a problem for most people. Worth mentioning though.
@privatestockrecords1
@privatestockrecords1 7 ай бұрын
I don;t want to list out all headphones I own, some are DT1770x Go, 6XX, Argon, 4XXs and the HE-5SE by Hifiman (at the sub $400 price point). I hosted a demo session with my neighborhood Headphone Enthusiasts, 10/10 said these are the best in my collection. This is my Daily Driver for my in house listening (ENDGAME). on the go. I use my B&O BioPlay EQ or my Acoustic Research ARE-10 IEM. These are by far the best sounding headphone I own for the price. (Not getting into the 4 figures headphones yet. as I dont think my wife will approve.)
@avexus7756
@avexus7756 3 жыл бұрын
Elegia vs. these? Is it just a conversation of open-back vs. closed-back?
@brad_wilson
@brad_wilson 5 жыл бұрын
Got a pair of these in the first drop, immediately declared all my other headphones to be trash. It wasn't even close. Paired with the Questyle CMA 400i. Godlike combo which works for pretty much any genre of music (my big three are metal, jazz, and electronic).
@dudeekill4win
@dudeekill4win 5 жыл бұрын
My friend you have my main genres right there. What other headphones that are under $300 that would be great for those genres? I have the 58X and im looking to save up for the THX amp
@brad_wilson
@brad_wilson 5 жыл бұрын
​@@dudeekill4win Depends on what you like out of your headphones. The Massdrop x Sennheiser 58X are great headphones for the price if you prefer a dynamic; if you wanted a planar, I'd say Modhouse Argon Mk3 or Monoprice M1060C w/ a mod to remove the backs and open them up (or the M1060 if you aren't comfortable with doing the mod). Normally driving the Argons would be challenging, but the THX AAA 789 can do that quite well.
@brad_wilson
@brad_wilson 5 жыл бұрын
@@alessandrabenz8109 Why? The walls are pleasantly cushioned and I never have to remember to take my meds.
@alessandrabenz8109
@alessandrabenz8109 5 жыл бұрын
@@brad_wilson great, sounds like the right place for your headphones. and pills cool down the perception
@kellanmackenzie5230
@kellanmackenzie5230 5 жыл бұрын
That combo is my exact plan seeing as The Hilariously Xtremen Always Absent Amp 789 sounds to good to be true and I don't like waiting.
@bergenknudsen1037
@bergenknudsen1037 Жыл бұрын
Welp the fact you said "these are better than the HD800s"...yup I shall the Elex.
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
Review the Emotiva Airmotiv T2s!
@Gofrette
@Gofrette 5 жыл бұрын
You might really like the Focal Aria 906 speakers, Zeos. What you said about the Elex kind of apply to the 906 too, I’d love to know your opinion about them!
@sonicthehedgehog989
@sonicthehedgehog989 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I got the elex like 3 or 4 months ago. I joined the zues iem drop so that can be my Christmas gift lol, actually late Christmas gift cause it will arrive on April or before that according to massdrop. From what I heard the zues is a monster one of the best audio output devices, big praise, and a big promise. I hope if Z can review it. I got a feeling it might beat the ZMF.
@traindeluxe3789
@traindeluxe3789 4 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between Elex and Elegia? Anyone?
@nl_2652
@nl_2652 4 жыл бұрын
Z, could you add a link to those cables in the description?
@cisco150
@cisco150 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys im back have choosen theses head set what would you guys remove from the list. Im licensing to Rap, Hiphop, Reggeaton,Trap, Spanish Music . Focal ELEX vs DT 1990 PRO, hifiman ananda, HIFIMAN SUNDARA, HD 6xx. Like some bass, vocals and highs dont like bass overpowering my music
@cisco150
@cisco150 4 жыл бұрын
Bump
@black_n5492
@black_n5492 3 жыл бұрын
Would the Schiit Magnius and Modius be a great combo for to power these? Or is there some other option. Also, in the two years since this review was made is there a better contender in this $700 price point?
@buster7618
@buster7618 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas you funky animals
@thechef5531
@thechef5531 5 жыл бұрын
The people on the Utopia headfi thread are losing their shit bro. LOLOLOLOLOLOL! Now you have me interested in the elex. I wasn't going to even consider a Focal headphone after being extremely disappointed with the Utopia I had for 2 weeks.
@rustygates3367
@rustygates3367 5 жыл бұрын
I really don't think you've listened to a Utopia properly. These headphones, especially the Utopias are heavily DAC/Amp picky - so I'm talking about listening out of a real good amp. Not your phone, not something like a Schiit, something that has a high SINAD - more like a THX AAA 789, Pro iCAN, output of a Chord DAVE or TT2 because I had the Clear (which sound better than the Elex) and Utopias while I owned the Schiit Jot & Bifrost, difference not so much, then I upgraded my gear to the Chord and the Utopia absolutely blew the Clear away, so I ended up selling it. The Utopia is such a fun HP to listen to - it just had better layering, body, texture, much better "crunch" and "twang", MUCH faster transient response, very punchy indeed, imaging top notch. Overall timbre was incredible. There is no way, speaking objectively re. driver design, material selection & measurements the Elex can sound like anything close to the Utopia. The price of the Utopia has dropped to 2500 USD (thats what I got mine for), but for 700 USD, the Elex is def bang for the buck.
@williamhedges7441
@williamhedges7441 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think these go better with a digital or tube amp?
@filipp7611
@filipp7611 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Zeos! Why you never talk about file formats, in what quality music in your playlist? If it is flac, what is the source? What do you think about MQA, which is great imo? Did you hear Tidal’s master quality albums?Will be great to have any video about that from you.
@TraceLight
@TraceLight 5 жыл бұрын
Kirill Filippov he doesn’t really believe in file formats. He brought up DSD up once but just brushed it off. I think Zeos believes more in “well recorded” instead of “well done file format.”
@filipp7611
@filipp7611 5 жыл бұрын
Phoenix Scp ok, but there is a huge difference between mp3 128kbit and FLAC / MQA and when Zeos say - “this DAC is amazing” I really want to know what exactly this DAC converting now. I also never use dsd, because its almost impossible to get records in this format from studio, but I can here huge difference using Tidal masters (MQA) and what is more important Tidal get those records directly from artists / studios.
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously, how do they compare to the erupt's?
@jakehardy9610
@jakehardy9610 5 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering that too considering he at least implied they are still better than these. Whats the point of spending $700 on a headphone that, at most, a $400 headphone can do better
@commenter9703
@commenter9703 5 жыл бұрын
En Joshi-Godrez these are tremendously better. From other people that have tried Erupts later in the prototype phase they said they sounded almost exactly like the X2, which is not a good thing.
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 5 жыл бұрын
@Commenter Jesus, you just want to hear what you want believe don't you kid? Like fucking child. No, many people had high praise for the erupts, you would of seen this if you weren't busy trying to bullshit me about having seen any "reviews" for them (which they themselves admit is not a review because they are not the finished product). Yes, some said the bass was anemic, while others like zeos, said it was fantastic. There were even ones that said the sound stage was no better than 650's, yet zoes and company said they were the widest they heard. They were all prototypes, sooooo...non of them were the finished product. All different tuning, for the purpose of feedback so they can improve it. Why would they stop at "the youtubers" (which only zoes did one) to get feedback? You have no evidence to say otherwise, and considering for moment (something you'll never do 😂) that the erupt team them selves said so, you never will. Understand now, immoral shit bag? Or will you still go on this vandeta for the headphone that raped and killed your family. As why else would you spread flagrant lies for such a product? Who said they sounded the same as x2? Who said these were not prototypes? Who said they all had the same tuning? I'll be waiting...forever. 😂
@samulhardif8331
@samulhardif8331 5 жыл бұрын
@@commenter9703 Wow, you just can't stop telling lies. What an immoral sack of shit. 😂
@commenter9703
@commenter9703 5 жыл бұрын
En Joshi-Godrez well Zeos is a terrible reviewer anyway. But I’m not lying. Take 30s and look up their tour before you just assume I’m lying.
@scioarete7987
@scioarete7987 3 жыл бұрын
How do they compare with the Sundara?
@franzb69
@franzb69 3 жыл бұрын
i would have bought one if this didn't have so much qc issues
@dudeekill4win
@dudeekill4win 5 жыл бұрын
2 rem wallpapers in a little over a week?!?! What is this madness?
@willsbox635
@willsbox635 5 жыл бұрын
Elex(699) or LCD2C (599), that is the question.
@dillacorn_linux
@dillacorn_linux 5 жыл бұрын
If you want detail retrieval Elex. Their both enjoyable cans.. Prob the Elex
@thecardoski
@thecardoski 5 жыл бұрын
Ordered one today.
@ytuser0110
@ytuser0110 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably possible cuz drop just jump over resarch cost and just bearly hits it with a stick on way down.
@bbqribz570
@bbqribz570 5 жыл бұрын
A Friend of mine has these and i got to listen to them for a week. I couldn't put them down and i immediately wanted to sell off my 3 other pairs of cans and just have these.
@nsonnson
@nsonnson 5 жыл бұрын
May I know what amp u and your friend using for Elex?
@bbqribz570
@bbqribz570 5 жыл бұрын
@@nsonnson a violectric hpa v200 with USB dac. A bit overkill, but still pretty nice
@cliph6068
@cliph6068 5 жыл бұрын
I see you have the ADI-2 DAC. Very solid performance with the Elex.
@Gokhanaj
@Gokhanaj 5 жыл бұрын
What about.. LCD 2C vs this?
@MFillmore
@MFillmore 5 жыл бұрын
If you want planar bass above all else then get the lcd2c. If that's not super critical get these.
@c_o_l_m
@c_o_l_m 5 жыл бұрын
I guess I'll hem and haw for a few days on whether or not to find a pair to swap with my Æon closed-backs. I miss open-back soundstage.
@Stettenbauer
@Stettenbauer 5 жыл бұрын
Bought them, highly recommend.
@ShamelessDiablo
@ShamelessDiablo 5 жыл бұрын
Focal Elex or wait for finalized Vokyl Erupt. I'm interested in trying something with a very wide soundstage after using the HD650's for so long.
@NiSHAN256
@NiSHAN256 5 жыл бұрын
Elex don't have very wide SS, if you want to experience some try the m1060, they have very wide SS
@feedback7341
@feedback7341 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Zeos, I'm probably just as much of a "gamer" as I am an... "audiophile", would these headphones work well for gaming as well? (I play Squad and Arma, stuff like that)
@Hunterssoldier
@Hunterssoldier 5 жыл бұрын
They are overkill for gaming but yes they definitely would sound great.
@agentorange8530
@agentorange8530 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't like them for gaming. Something about the upper mids are way too elevated. That might be good for hearing footsteps but it just felt like they were throwing too much sound into your ears. Like when I was playing World of Warcraft, the music was low but then when I got into combat, the sound effects were way too loud. And they sounded like they were on another layer from the music. It was making me cringe. I sold them back when I got them from the first drop so it's been a while since I heard them. I do wanna see how they are again to compare after having a few more headphones now.
@feedback7341
@feedback7341 5 жыл бұрын
@@agentorange8530 Thanks for the input; I'd probably have to hear them to be sure, like with any audio gear. I am currently running HD650s, and I personally love them, great for both music and gaming.
@feedback7341
@feedback7341 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hunterssoldier Probably would, but you never truly know until you've experienced it, and opinions also tend to vary haha. Thanks man.
@vladistic7500
@vladistic7500 5 жыл бұрын
how do they compare to something like the LCD2 classic?
@s7robe297
@s7robe297 4 жыл бұрын
I have both. Very well imo. Great compliment to the 2C. More analytical, the soundstage is just as wide, but with no “dead zone”. The imaging is fantastic! The dynamics are insane on these too, they’re one of the most speaker like headphone I’ve heard. Easily worth the price especially at the prices they go for used.
@humanbass
@humanbass 5 жыл бұрын
The Clear is not bass heavy at all, I swear there is something wrong with Z setup or the pair he got.
@riseuplight
@riseuplight 5 жыл бұрын
Vitor Roma Z is sensitive to bass. He prefers balanced eq and detailed mids and highs I think.
@brownlab8898
@brownlab8898 5 жыл бұрын
There was some technical witchcraft going on with the giant Italian amp he used to test the clears. Something about minimum output impedance or whatever.
@PaulClay46masonWV
@PaulClay46masonWV 5 жыл бұрын
I think I'd trade all my headphones and IEMs for the Elex
@zoomingpoop
@zoomingpoop 5 жыл бұрын
My bank account, my wallet and my girlfriend hates you but my ears love you so much. Why u do this to me Zeos? As long as you keep making these videos I wont have any money.
@brandonlim5709
@brandonlim5709 4 жыл бұрын
I miss pre corona zeos. Quarantine killed all our brains 😅🤣
@PerfmonX64
@PerfmonX64 5 жыл бұрын
I am going to have to get my hands on a set of these at some point in time. I'll probably wait until after the "Zeos Effect" has done it's thing, and pick up a set secondhand on eBay for somewhere in the $450-$500 range.
@brad_wilson
@brad_wilson 5 жыл бұрын
You can buy mine, from my next of kin after I'm dead. 😜
@V00ify
@V00ify 5 жыл бұрын
well the elex pads cant be purchased anywhere except via massdrop...someone should do a test of elex vs clear vs elear vs utopia pads....I wonder who has access to all this stuff?
@vote4ulvio
@vote4ulvio 4 жыл бұрын
Focal Elex or Audeze LCD X??
@RLEEJY051298
@RLEEJY051298 5 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to the vokyl erupt
@TraceLight
@TraceLight 5 жыл бұрын
Zeos please don’t. There isn’t any THX aaa left anymore almost right after your review came out. What’s next, massdrop running out of Focal Elex?
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds like the review the night before Zeos goes to rehab lol
@robertfan332
@robertfan332 11 ай бұрын
How about these vs the 109's Z?
@turbomustang84
@turbomustang84 5 жыл бұрын
Now I want these but I gotta add that the Hifiman - He4XX , Sennheiser HD-6XX along with HD-58X are must own Headphones . And all three combined are hundreds less than the Focal's . But if these are still available after the new year I'm getting these .
@grimtrigg3r
@grimtrigg3r 5 жыл бұрын
Robbie Gray hifiman he400i for $160 is the deal of the century. Can’t believe how amazing they are. The detail, the bass. I use them for critical listening and they are incredible.
@semtexxl
@semtexxl 5 жыл бұрын
AKG's are made in Slovakia not Slovenia.... great review btw!
@victoro8392
@victoro8392 5 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could try the Elear with the Clear or Elex pads?
@JonathanGurgul
@JonathanGurgul 5 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to play some of the highest quality digital piano sounds ever recorded and want to feel like I’m at a real Grand Piano. Are these the ticket? My HD558s are pretty good but a little muddy. I’m thinking the clarity and soundstage on these would be amazing in comparison to what I have. Any help is appreciated :) (I also have the Beyerdynamic DT990 on my radar)
@WillJukedTheBox
@WillJukedTheBox 5 жыл бұрын
Dow - drops 600+ points* Zeos - BUY THESE $700 HEADPHONES RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!
@2thousand639
@2thousand639 4 жыл бұрын
Zeos Pantera: You can only pick one: Focal Elex or ZMF Aeolus?
@andresgallego5727
@andresgallego5727 5 жыл бұрын
I'm considering these as an upgrade to my Grado SR325e, Hifiman HE400i and Senn's HD558, as you can see i have been stuck in the sub 400$ hell for a long time lol.
@napalmhardcore
@napalmhardcore 5 жыл бұрын
Old video I know, but everything I'm reading suggests the Elex is the Elear with Clear pads and different colour scheme. I'm not currently considering these but if I were hypothetically looking to buy, it would be nice to know the same product is available to non Drop customers. I don't like the fact that Drop gets exclusive models. I don't mind if people get deals on existing products, but having exclusives that in some cases are considered the definitive version is annoying for customers outside the US that either can't get them shipped or have to pay significantly more to import them.
@luctors
@luctors 5 жыл бұрын
Only shipped to US :(
@PaulClay46masonWV
@PaulClay46masonWV 5 жыл бұрын
Zeos? For the next 5 yrs you can only listen to one set of headphones. Which ones would you pick?
@tooitchy
@tooitchy 4 жыл бұрын
These. I've had them 2 days, and these, easily, wipes out most of my collection, still have genre specific cans, but the elex are the most versatile, they sound great no matter what you're listening to, something that cannot be said about most of my headphones.
@QuintilianA
@QuintilianA 5 жыл бұрын
So Massdrop did the same thing to Focal that they did to the Sens lineup.
@dillacorn_linux
@dillacorn_linux 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't change the HD 6XX. The HD 6XX is a HD 650 if you didn't know. The HD 58X is not really a HD 660 S from my testing. The highs aren't as sparkly and some vocals and music aren't as detailed. Sound stage is ever so slightly wider on the HD 660 S. (It's hard to notice the difference in sound stage) The Focal Elex is a different beast of its own. Not handled in any way like Sennheiser was because the Elex obviously isn't a cheap broy
@mattialemboluscari8774
@mattialemboluscari8774 4 жыл бұрын
He has *ANGERY*
@sharpblad3
@sharpblad3 5 жыл бұрын
why do you have the kef speaker upside down? and why noone didn't mention it till now??? 🤔
@michaelwhitaker1972
@michaelwhitaker1972 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you can part with something on your wall if the Elex are that good.
@pierodauber4452
@pierodauber4452 3 жыл бұрын
hi zeos, is elex still 600 $ worth it?
@hsharma3933
@hsharma3933 4 жыл бұрын
Are those yoga blocks? That seems to be the best use for those.
@DaftBunny
@DaftBunny 5 жыл бұрын
How do these compare to the Verum One?
@HHRS
@HHRS 5 жыл бұрын
If I use PC with 3.5mm and spdif output, what DAC should I use? budget $200 or under. Together with Elex headphone with THX AAA 789 amp. Thanks
@Amp1tude
@Amp1tude 3 жыл бұрын
i run mine off a fiio e17 amp/dac and use tidal.... i cannot find that soundstage you are describing. It is almost always just left and right for me
@garrycardoso2468
@garrycardoso2468 3 жыл бұрын
I upgraded my E17 to the topping E30/L30 and the difference was night and day.
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