As an aircraft maintainer myself, the 190 just completely won me over! Designed to be easily maintained and ahead of the curve in terms of engine management, flight controls and life support systems, all while prioritizing the pilot's well-being! I had no idea the 190 was that robust and well designed. Thank you for the excellent in-depth on The Butcher Bird!
@spindash644 жыл бұрын
Jake Hefferman Yeah. It wasn’t just a high performance aircraft, it was a FIGHTER, thru and thru. “Butcher” was no exaggeration
@MultiZirkon4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it is even more forward thinking than the F-16?? I have seen some pictures from maintenance... Perhaps an F-16 mechanics could say??
@nickmitsialis4 жыл бұрын
@@spindash64 I wonder how the 'rebuilt' FWs are doing with the Russian engines? Presumably it's more mechanically reliable than the original BMW. The Butcher Bird is a nickname for The Shrike--a small, aggressive carnivorous bird (related to the cuckoo, I think?) that has the charming habit of impaling it's victims on spines, thorns or branches in a larder for 'future use'--the 'hanging meat' image is where the 'butcher' derives from. So the FW is, in effect', fierce 'bird of prey' in a compact package.
@promerops4 жыл бұрын
@@nickmitsialis In Southern Africa it is the Fiscal Shrike (so-named because its black and white plumage put some in mind of the clothing of De Fiskaal - the highest ranking judicial official in the Dutch East India Company of the Cape of Good Hope in the 18th Century. Another nickname for the Fiscal Shrike is "Jacky Hangman". All of which is straying from the subject in hand! I believe that the BMW engine of the FW190 was prone to catching fire on start up. For this unfortunate habit, FW and BMW played the blame game with each other.
@filthydisgustingape53544 жыл бұрын
@@promerops nice bit of info. As for the engine all that l knew was thru Don Caldwell & his JG 26 Unit histories. However it was clear that Germany lacked the resources to create metals with strength & heat resistance. See problem later with the me 262 jet engine.
@princeofcupspoc90734 жыл бұрын
The best part of these videos is that for a layman (non-aero-engineer), deciphering the manuals can be challenging. Greg is able to translate from engineer speak to human speak, and still relay all the nuances. Amazing work yet again.
@UncleJoeMedia4 жыл бұрын
Yes, he assumes we are able to pause/rewind as necessary, look up stuff we still don't understand & are generally not stupid. ie He respects his audience & in return comments are unusually interesting & not just piles of crap.
@warrenjones7444 жыл бұрын
I concur, Greg does an excellent job.
@zogzog10634 жыл бұрын
Right you are there Prince - I must have been sick when this was covered in law school.
@thejeff50104 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The mad lad and his channel are gems.
@zJoriz4 жыл бұрын
I agree. This is the first time I actually understand wth 'manifold pressure' is.
@Joe_Not_A_Fed3 жыл бұрын
I always thought the FW190 was beautiful in a 'form = function' kind of way...which in my opinion, is a better gauge of beauty than most. It seemed elegant and efficiently designed, from a purely aesthetic point of view. It was very interesting to learn of the 'cavalry horse' design philosophy, probably because I am a 'jack of all trades, master of none', kind of guy. Thanks.
@KandaJE4 жыл бұрын
In early 1977, I went to Australia/New Zealand. I had recently turned 16, and was a big fan of Wargames, and this was one of my favorite WWII planes. While trying to amuse myself during the day in Auckland, while my mother did her business thing, I would pass the time by visiting the many war museums. I walked into one, that had an FW-190 in it! My jaw dropped! The old man who ran the museum let me climb up and sit in the cockpit, play with the controls, actually touch it! I was in heaven! He told me that it had been recovered from a Sunken U-boat in parts, all boxed up that had been intended for Japan. That he had been tasked with putting it all back together. Unfortunately, I couldn't convince my mom to go back later to take pictures, and I got distracted by the fact that I could legally buy Beer at age 16! About all I remember now about it, is that the "Old Man" said that it wasn't air worthy, but likely only because he wasn't a mechanic. He just didn't know if he had put everything on correctly. I'd really love to find out what ever happened to that machine!
@ksweens014 жыл бұрын
Now THAT is a story. Hopefully someone can dig up more info on that bird!
@spatclaymoregdh11473 жыл бұрын
If you could provide more information about the museum you visited, we could look for the fate of that beautiful machine
@SheepInACart3 жыл бұрын
As somebody born in, and living in that region most of my life, this story has some serious wires crossed. Firstly in NZ from 1910 drinking age (at bars or take away) was pegged at 21, and only lowered to 20 in time for this 1977 tale (its now 18, but hasn't been 16 for over 100 years when the 1881 bill limited the age at bars, but that bill also set no age on take away alcohol). Now of course lots of places justified flaunting said laws in some way, by end of the 1970's the strictness of moral opinion and related enforcement had relaxed so that most restaurants wouldn't have batted an eye at a 16 year old sharing a wine with parents over dinner, and in a rural area local kids would have been tolerated grabbing a few beers so long as they weren't up to trouble... but as tourist who is unaccompanied minor in the nations largest city with often the most strict adherence to regulation? Places that'd let you buy beers weren't going to leave you with take away impression it was legal. Secondly the only two FW-190's in NZ are one imported in the 2010's and damaged in 2015 crash in a ground loop during performance at Ohakea air base, and another that claimed to be assembled from genuine parts in the 1990's, so seeing either in 1977 would have been impossible. Also the reason the later is "claimed" for its not certain is because its been claimed as "under restoration" from a very long time, meanwhile it hasn't been shown off and they avoid discussing authenticity (its private owners have vintage planes from movie use) and so many think its largely (or almost entirely) of more recently created replica parts (which is still 100% suitable for its intended use in films). Australia on the other hand got its only FW190 in 2015, which itself was a repair from a nose over on landing previously... there wasn't even a known replica on display that has anything resembling mechanical parts inside to see in the late 1970's.
@KandaJE3 жыл бұрын
@@spatclaymoregdh1147 The ONLY information that I can provide, is as above, what I said in my earlier story. I was 16, no one ever "Carded" me (asking for ID) , I had been informed by a local - (her words) "If you are old enough to walk in, and lay your money down on the bar, they will likely serve you" I WAS a big kid! 6' 2" by age 14. In fact, I was buying beer at home, in America, commonly when I turned 15! Obviously, NOT legally! Castle Main (?) Was my Favorite Brand.. In any Case - The Story about the FW-190 is completely True as the Guy who was at that "War Museum" had told me. I am just reporting what HE had told me. I have no Evidence IF is is actually What actually happened. He said, he had put it together and had NO instructions, No Manuals, It didn't fly, the engine didn't work, But he was confident that if you stepped on the pedals, Control surfaces would move, etc.. And it DID happen in 1977 - Likely near the middle of January as we (my mother and I) spent a Month touring New Zealand, and Australia. And Aukland was our first stop. I was a Bored American Teenager, stuck in motels in another country - BTW - in 1977, Your Television programming quite literally sucked! So I spent a LOT of time, riding the Bus, with a Telephone Book - Visiting 'War Museums', which turned out to be Boring collections of Nazi Regalia. So When I walked in to this "War Museum" and instead There was a Full Sized REAL FW-190 A6 (if i remember correctly) - Well, THAT was quite Unforgettable!
@RowanPringle Жыл бұрын
Might have been Australia, Castlemaine is an Aussie beer
@davidhills7034 жыл бұрын
“You have to see the Fw190 Bismarck shows”. Not only have I seen the video, I’ve seen that aircraft in person. Beautiful piece of engineering. Loving this series Greg.
@markfryer98804 жыл бұрын
Did you also have look over the Fairey Gannett that they had there? Pristine condition compared to the one outside on display at the Moorabbin Air Museum in Melbourne, Australia. Weird looking aircraft.
@nissmoguy4 жыл бұрын
the fw 190 flugwerk variant with ash 41 engine
@pinkdispatcher4 жыл бұрын
@@markfryer9880 I've also been to Gatow this year. Great collection, and yes, the Fairey Gannett is one of the weirdest aircraft ever built, with the Dual-Mamba engine. There's also a Gannett at the German Airship and Naval Aviation Museum ("Aeronauticum") at Nordholz, where it sits, somewhat neglected, outside.
@jayfelsberg19314 жыл бұрын
I hate you j/k
@oceanhome20234 жыл бұрын
Bismarck has a good vid on this
@anthonyxuereb7924 жыл бұрын
Typically Germanic in design, so very thorough and smart that it leaves you wondering, just brilliant.
@jackd15824 жыл бұрын
But a bitch to maintain .. looking at you Audi
@redtobertshateshandles4 жыл бұрын
Well the designer knew the KISS principle, so not typical anywhere.
@verdict11634 жыл бұрын
Classic Mercedes (pre-1995) are built like this too.
@anthonyxuereb7924 жыл бұрын
@@verdict1163 I had one and what a machine. I still miss it.
@charlesfowler43083 жыл бұрын
@@jackd1582 except the 190 was designed with ease of maintenance in mind, that's it's genius (relative ofc any top end fighter aircraft from any era is gonna be a bitch)
@daszieher4 жыл бұрын
"...we will probably cover everything in here in more detail than you want..." Uhm, no. We come here specifically for that level of detail. :) The great advantage of a youtube video is the ability to skip forward, should the detail be too high. However, I have yet to catch myself doing so on your videos. I doubt too many of your regular viewers would complain, at least judging by the other comments. Back to your video. I absolutely LOVE the Kommandogerät (yes, I am German, I love planes, and yes, I have also worked for BMW in their Spandau facilities while studying engineering). The Kommandogerät for me symbolises the German approach to basically smother a problem with a technical, mechanical solution. Mechanical computers were long considered very rugged and resistant to temperature variations and vibrations, which would disable capacitors and tubes respectively in old electronic circuits. Especially since the inputs and outputs were physical "signals" (lever position, pressure, rpm etc) that would have to be transduced to an electric signal in the first place. The series of non-descript cams and followers contain all essential information of different settings in relation to each other, ignition advance can be curved to follow rpm, absolute manifold pressure and mixture settings. The (unrelated) Kugelfischer ignition system achieved this by means of rotating and translating a 3D-cam (affectionally called "potato") to capture the relation between several parameters (throttle setting and and rpm). It could correct the output for altitude (pressure) and temperature. Re-mapping such an injection system involves good old "mechanische Bearbeitung", mechanically modifying the cam to yield a different curve. The Kommandogerät uses several such cams to link values in non-linear fashion. From a practical approach, the P40 seems to hit the sweet spot. Not a fully manual system like Russian fighters (or nearly all GA piston engine aircraft) where every parameter would have to be set, changes would cross-influence the setting. Instead a couple of automatic systems each optimised for their respective task avoids the complexity of managing all variables at the same time. When something fails, the failure mode is clear and corrective action is also easy. The Kommandogerät poops the sheets and you're basically out to dry, because a normally super simple engine becomes unmanageable (bar, of course, the prop rpm with its separate circuit). Despite these disadvantages I still love the clockwork-like Kommandogerät. Love this series!
@tojiroh4 жыл бұрын
Great videos often provide great commentary, as is illustrated by your excellent contribution! I, too, have a soft spot for mechanical calculators/computers... One of my mentors showed me a lathe with a cam-driven controller. It was love at first sight...
@edwardpate61284 жыл бұрын
When I hear you talking about the 190's rugged reliability and ease of maintenance I think about the P-40. Love the P-40 references here! A ton of P-40 pilots pushed those Allisons as high as 72 inches prompting Allison to issue a memo regarding the use of high boost and that it was approved in combat. The Allison an incredibly tough engine and I hate how it gets short changed in many post war histories.
@drawingboard824 жыл бұрын
Greg as ever a fantastic job. I don't know if you realize the immense value of these videos, not just as informative, educational and entertaining pieces, but as genuinely valuable historical works. No one else bothers to read the original documentation and collate it like you do. I really appreciate it and I am sure thousands of your viewers do too.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@comradefriendship3 жыл бұрын
34:58 "I'm not sure ergonomics was a term" French tanks with their one-person turrets: No, no it was not
@patchouliknowledge44552 жыл бұрын
T-34 crews: What's that? Is it a joke?
@chaplaincrabtree68814 жыл бұрын
I love your content! It's so refreshing to hear details and in depth evaluation of aircraft instead of just regurgitated hearsay and myth.
@georgeknott7674 жыл бұрын
Dear Greg: Your airplane films are very instructive, and educational. Your subject matter on the Luftwaffe series especially Dipl. Kurt Tanks Fw 190, Ta 152 H and Ta 152 C series both ground attack and fighter aircraft is excellent. Lastly, l am fascinated by the Kommanduer device of the Fw 190 series airplane. And, l would like to know more about it. Another special video for that? Anyway, the late Doug Champlin had in his museum a: Fw 190 D9( restored as Yellow 9) and l believe this particular Fw 190 D9 still had its Kommanduer engine control "Computer" fitted to the airplane. Apparently, it has been ground run but never to take to the air due to its historic value. This Luftwaffe Fw 190 D9 may now be in the Smithsonian? Museum. Please continue to keep your airplane series alive.I thank you. George Knott, Australia.
@gx1400sc4 жыл бұрын
Greg you are a worldclass "teacher" , I'm so impressed of your "natural" pedagogical skills. This series of the 190 make me really wonder what would happened if the designers of this masterpiece had access to better fuel and other resources to further increase it's specs. Hat of to you Greg , for this great video 👍
@bobdyer4224 жыл бұрын
Getting under the skin of the aircraft is why I enjoy your work so much. The Fw family is my favorite Axis AC and does fill the shelves with all my P-47's. Great job, always a pleasure. Thanks
@denniswilliams87474 жыл бұрын
I recently read the War DIaries of Chas Lindburg. Hewas a factory rep in the Pacific. He made a number of talks to pilots about using the auto lean and lower engine rpms for cruse. He found many if not most pilots could benefit from better engine management for better economy to stay on patrol and get much longer duration from better fuel economy Once in combat the mix went to auto rich for best power. THanks
@robo65484 жыл бұрын
Superb video, loved Part 1. I understood the outstanding feature (and what worried the Brits greatly when the 190 debuted) was its superb roll rate and power/performance. This was investigated using a captured example in Farnborough which resulted in Brit pilots being instructed not to engage the 190 in certain scenarios and flight conditions.
@maschinen1814 жыл бұрын
The La 5 pilots who had to fiddle with 6 levers simultaneously would've been extremely happy if they had the mechanical computer like the 190 did
@lycossurfer88514 жыл бұрын
Another reason why the Russians likes Lend Lease fighters I guess
@ИгорьКоробочкин-ы6к4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for bad english, but: Composition of the fuel mixture on the Soviet MiG-3, LaGG-3, La-5 (F, FN) and La-7 fighters could be controlled both manually and automatically. On many Soviet fighters, it was possible to simultaneously move the manifold pressure control lever and the propeller speed control lever At the Messerschmitt, the flaps were released manually by the helm, which, accordingly, had to be twisted. On all Soviet fighters of the 40s. - pneumatic system. Some Messerschmitts had a limited view of back. The Soviet fighters since 1943 - the rear view, with the exception of a relatively small number of LaGGs, was excellent. And yes, the Germans had superiority in automation.
@bakters4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't such a big deal most of the time. On the Eastern Front 190s were fairly quickly downgraded to ground attack missions (low and slow), so they didn't benefit much from all of their Kraut magic, while at the same time the Soviets didn't suffer that badly from their manual controls. From what I read in the interviews of actual pilots, the main advantage of automatic controls was when being bounced. Cruising happily and then suddenly being expected to push several levers in proper order and switching some switches was no fun, especially when compared to simply jamming the throttle forward. Soviets countered this problem by cruising at higher speeds. It limited the range and engine longevity, but they just sucked it up. Engines don't last all that long when exposed to enemy fire anyway. Another equalizing factor was the strategy of the Luftwaffe for gathering numbers before engaging the enemy. It seems reasonable at first, but Soviet pilots considered it cowardly, because the attack often came after the mission was done. Luftwaffe was a much more independent force than VVS, who was supposed to cooperate with ground troops very tightly, but the disadvantage of that was that Luftwaffe was not very keep on risking an attack while outnumbered, even if it could result in much less effective enemy strike. Anyway, Soviet pilots scorned this approach and because of that prevalent tactic, they were rarely surprised during big operations. Germans attacked in numbers, but often after the enemy was well aware of them loitering above. I didn't come up with all of that by myself. I will dig up the sources when asked for them. Eventually... ;-)
@phil31144 жыл бұрын
Ask P38 pilots about it
@Lemard774 жыл бұрын
That being said 4 of those levers are the supercharger and engine cooling systems that as most radials are kinda set and forget unless doing prolongued dives in winter with low throttle settings were they would need to close the shutters, so they would be set once entered the combat zone.
@cynthiabauer57634 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all these details, Greg. My admiration for the FW-190 increased greatly after watching your videos and learning about the designer and his goals.
@michaelwier12224 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for the in depth details on my favorite WWII fighter. At 39:00 you can see that the canopy rides on roller bearing and not ball bearings.
@Ebergerud4 жыл бұрын
Years back I talked to a Boeing engineer who had worked with WWII aircraft. He commented that the FW190 had a kind of analog "fly by wire" system that made it very easy to fly - easy in terms of WWII fighters all of which were "hot."
@Aubury Жыл бұрын
A tour de force, in depth, the minutiae to the major. Seriously absorbing. A gem.
@maciekhoda92924 жыл бұрын
Greg, please continue! I have read a lot of literature about Wurger, it's my favourite warbird. I've got Novarra, Harmann, some of Ospreys and AJ Press nad more, but nowhere the fascinating philosophy of Fw 190 construction is caught as perfect as in Your documentary. Good Job!
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, this series will need at least three more episodes to complete, maybe more.
@dannynye17312 жыл бұрын
1943 Aviation Week did a detail Design Analysis of the Faber machine. The rolled it into a hanger, disassembled and reassembled the bird and drew everything. The last word on an A model
@VikingGuard4 жыл бұрын
Just to be able to fly the The Butcher Bird I am thinking of spending a few on IL2 Stormovik again :) Your explanation of this aircraft is like no other, this is one of a kind, very well done and I am sure a huge amount of time has been spending on gathering research material for this episode.
@SquillyMon4 жыл бұрын
I am honestly amazed at the complexity of the fighter planes from the 30's and 40's. I didn't realize just how sophisticated they were, I would often wonder...did they think of this, or that, regarding different machines. The answer it turns out is always yes, yes they did and then some !I've always found that extremely interesting. I would like to thank you for providing not only the fine details but also the thinking behind them and their different methods of execution. It really brings the aircraft to life in a way that is hard to come across. Wonderful job !
@fuzzy-man-peach62583 жыл бұрын
“If one of those bottles gets hit, it’s going to be pretty exciting for the pilot” 😂😂 to say the least!
@michaelw62774 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these. The Fw-190 is a plane that's always left me wondering what it existed for as I never really understood how it stood apart from the Bf-109. I was never sure if it was intended to be a higher performing replacement or if it had some specific mission to fill that the 109 couldn't. I come away from these videos with a great appreciation for it as well as a feeling of relief that most of Germany's weapons weren't as thoughtfully designed. It's interesting how much more effective a weapons platform can be when they remove just a tiny fraction of performance to enhance durability, maintainability, and usability.
@timtom21064 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sir. You could definitely give classes on aircraft design. In my opinion the command unit was build, to increase the survivability of inexperienced pilots. And offer exhausted pilots some comfort. Hour after hour hearing these extreme engine noises plus the smell of the engine gases plus the cold outside plus 10 to 14 combat hours a day. You are going to be extremely happy if all you have to do is push the throttle. Thanks for the excellent content.
@werre24 жыл бұрын
A3/A5 are among my favorite planes in IL2. The cockpit is awesomely clean and well designed.
@dheemanrajkhowa28664 жыл бұрын
Hey Greg! A Fan of yours from India. Your detailed videos are always a pleasure to watch.A tidbit of the connection between Dr. Kurt Tank and India is that after the war he went to India to teach aeronautics in a university where he taught the former president of India Dr. Abdul Kalam who would later on go on to develop India's guided missile development programme! Dr. Kurt Tank also designed India's first supersonic jet fighter ,the HF-24 Marut as well.
@spindash644 жыл бұрын
Didn’t he also try to help Argentina build what looked like a bigger Ta 183?
@dheemanrajkhowa28664 жыл бұрын
@@spindash64 thanks for info! I didn't know that Dr. Kurt Tank had helped the Argentinians with development of the IAe 33 too! It's a pity it wasn't put into production.
@johnwhitehead54574 жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation.
@sethlamson3 жыл бұрын
"If one of those get hit, its going to be exciting for the pilot". That's outstanding.
@richardvonfliegteufel81344 жыл бұрын
Best docu ever for me. I always fly the 190´s in War Thunder and ILL2 sims. I always knew it was a awesome fighter. Now i know. Thanks.
@jehl19634 жыл бұрын
Excellent series (as I've come to expect from Greg)! Regarding the whole constant speed propeller discussion, for those of us who don't fly, a good analogy might be the transmission in our cars -- which most people 16 years and older will be familiar with. Increasing the prop pitch is like shifting to a lower gear in a car. While 1st gear is great for pulling away from a stop, and 2nd gear is the gear to use to accelerate quickly when rolling, neither is good for cruising or highway use, let alone top speed on some Nevada highway. Those activities require a much lower pitch on the prop (i.e. lower ration in a car's gearbox). Conversely, if you're puttering around in top gear at 1200 RPM in your car trying to the to the next gas station without running out of fuel, and you need to accelerate quickly, mashing the throttle open won't do much except make your engine rattle. You need to jump to a lower gear and mash the throttle to accelerate with any authority. Adding a turbo (i.e. manifold pressure) provides another layer of complexity. Regarding the engine control system, I think that you summarized it well as a mechanical computer. I can't tell for sure, but I suspect Robert Bosch had something to do with it. The company starting making integrated diesel fuel injection pumps in 1927, which seemed to be the standard for this application until the 1950's. From that diesel injection pump is a small step to gas injection (see most Germany aircraft engines of WWII) and engine controls. After the war this technology showed up in the German manufactured race engines and eventually performance street car engines in the 50's and 60s. I think that I can see a barometric measuring feature in the top right of the diagram at 28:00. In addition the throttle position ( possibly lower left?) and engine speed (light blue?). These look similar to what you'd see on an early Porsche 911 Mechanical Fuel Injection (MFI) system.
@Tommy5444 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg, great video as always! In one of the more recent updates to IL-2, the developers reworked the pilot physiology system and the seating position has a noticeable effect on how easy it is to black out. In high speed turns, most allied planes can't easily out turn 109s and 190s, because they would black out. IL-2 now also simulates anti G suits for American fighters that then give pilots superior resistance to G forces compared to German fighters.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks.
@rudywoodcraft95533 жыл бұрын
Great insights---that indirect factors like ease of engine optimization in flight and maintenance on the ground factors into performance and combat effectiveness
@maxspruit83704 жыл бұрын
Love this video serie. Please keep them coming! You are the absolute best on this topic. The only one that truely explaines the engineering side to things.
@UncleJoeMedia4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the under-rated yet remarkable Hawker Hurricane in future episodes. It certainly deserves the 'Greg' treatment. In a lot of ways, Sydney Camm had much the same approach to the Hurricane as Kurt Tank did to the Fw-190. It was simple to build, used less scarce resources, had wide, strong landing gear & an ability to mount a wide variety weapons. Easy to fly, easy to service, easy to repair on the field, very stable gun platform and able to fly home after being shot up badly. It saw service as a frontline fighter, tank-buster in the desert, multi-role in Burma etc, as a [mad] 'disposable' convoy air defence weapon (CAMS) launched from short catapults on merchant ships (before escort carriers), as carrier aircraft, point defence & attacking ships in Malta, and Lend Lease export. I've probably missed a few. So yes, it deserves the full treatment.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
You are correct. The Hurricane was the real hero of the Battle of Britain.
@richardbennett85224 жыл бұрын
Uncle Joe S I've read Len Deighton "Battle of Britain" and Leo McKinsrey book on the Hurricane.It was a very good fighter and some Luftwaffe fighter pilots resented being shot down by a supposed inferior fighter(they were secretly recorded).The Hurricane does deserve the Greg treatment
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
It's a matter of time before I get too it. There are so many planes I want to cover. I haven't even finished my P-47 series. It seems it will take about 6 episodes per plane, some less, some more.
@JohnBrowningsGhost4 жыл бұрын
Germany's fighters have such a good aesthetics, I go back and forth between the 190 and 109 fpr my favorite, though I think the p40 is my favorite ever plane, I confess that its appearance in the movie Pearl Harbor when I was a kid made me love that interwar style.
@dukecraig24024 жыл бұрын
Greatest entrance of a movie character EVER, John Belushi as "Wild" Bill Kelso in the movie 1941. "Death Valley California, High Noon", that Flying Tiger style P40 with the sharks mouth lands on that road and pulls into a gas station and out jumps John Belushi, if you were a 14 year old kid in 1979 I just didn't come any cooler then that👍👍👍.
@JohnBrowningsGhost4 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 Before my time, but I watched it recently, I cant believe 1941 wasnt more popular back in the day, crazy funny for sure.
@stug414 жыл бұрын
The name's wild bill kelso, and don't you forget it!
@stug414 жыл бұрын
@hiwetcam i had no idea there was a book, wilk have to check it out!
@jaggar284 жыл бұрын
Eagerly waiting for the next episode :) Long videos are really helpful for us laymen to understand and appreciate the thinking behind the designs of these beautiful planes. Many many thanks for your hard work and time!
@HippieLongHaired4 жыл бұрын
FW 190 Engine maintenance access panels designed to use as work platforms. As opposed to U.S. 60KW genset access panels that are designed to fall down and hit the mechanic in the head.
@kevinalmgren833210 ай бұрын
Kurt Tank must have had the top cover of an MG08/15 land on his head.
@SquillyMon4 жыл бұрын
After listening to how the throttle, mixture and blade pitch were adjusted I thought of how many engines met their death from the mismanagement of those three things alone. I bet the number was not insignificant ! I cant tell you how many times I have wondered about this exact subject regarding WWII aircraft. I'm a mechanic, so I ponder these things often...again, thank you for such an excellent description !
@bubiruski80674 жыл бұрын
All true ! I like to emphasize this fuel metering unit being a marvel. This engine having direct fuel injection optimizing the fuel flow according power, available manifold pressure, temperature, engine rpm... Nowadays one would call for an electronic fuel computer. These guys made this mechanically ! I observed engine start. They crank an inertial starter, engage a clutch, and the engine starts. Compare this to modern piston engine. Incredible !
@JP-ec7hz4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Greg! The Fw190 is my favorite piston driven fighter. Glad to see someone going in depth on it!
@The_ZeroLine Жыл бұрын
The FW-190 cockpit configuration for the driver is like an F1 car. Ideal for high g’s. BTW, I’m still too stupid to fully understand the constant prop speed.
@bluthammer14424 жыл бұрын
Excellent. these videos are freaking amazing. I'm very curious to see some stuff in the future on the IFF systems. Amazing the kind of stuff they already developed at that era.
@craigpennington12514 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome looking FW-190. Another thing on my bucket list that will never happen, is to fly one. It must be glorious.
@Niinsa624 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of my favourite KZbin episodes ever! I like your explanation of the Kommandogerät a whole lot, the pics reminds me of something similar I saw twentyfive years ago about the hydraulic/mechanical computer controlling the jet engine of a SAAB AJ37 Viggen fighter, it also had a number of cogwheels and levers, and it all was powered by hydraulic pressure provided by jet engine fuel from the afterburner fuel pumps. Really cool! And oh yeah, you say Kommandogerät pretty well. It´s only the Gerät part you stress backwards, you say it roughly like Garrett. But it should be more like ka-chunk. With very little stress on the Ge, and all the stress on Rät. But I don't care, I just say this because you commented yourself about not being sure about the way to say the word.
@haraldhannelius4 жыл бұрын
"Gereet" with a hard German G. And the E's a in endless or efficient.
@DmdShiva4 жыл бұрын
Although I think handwaving the question of why units like the Kommandogerät weren't more widely used by talking about how jets were taking over and didn't need anything like that is a little disingenuous, given that there were years between the introduction of the FW 190 and the Me 262; given all of the different propeller-driven aircraft that the Third Reich developed and updated during the war, there needs to be an explanation why a device like the Kommandogerät wasn't implemented for them.
@drstrangelove49982 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched these two programmes a number of times. Masterful detail Greg.
@enriquekramer45904 жыл бұрын
Wonderful episode! It seems you are building up a very serious analysis of this wonderful airplane with a very lengthy series of episodes. Thank you so much, what a joy!!!
@cannonfodder43764 жыл бұрын
Never knew the 190 was predominately Dural, so that is new to me. Combined with its rugged construction it undoubtedly earned that rugged reputation. And good points about the O2 bottles, multiple small bottles with one way valves would undoubtedly be more survivable than one large tank. Yet another informative video Greg. The details and explanations are superb, painting an ever more detailed image of the aircraft.
@sheritonn50194 жыл бұрын
Dural (specifically 2024 Aluminum) is still used for the bottom skin of modern jet liner wings (at least the ones made out of aluminum). The top skins are typically 7055 Aluminum. The 7055 is typically a bit stronger but is more sensitive to stress corrosion cracking under tensile loads, hence its use on the upper surface which is loaded in compression, and not the lower surface which is loaded in tension.
@cannonfodder43764 жыл бұрын
@@sheritonn5019 Interesting info, makes sense when one thinks about it.
@benjaminjohnson64764 жыл бұрын
Yet a nother wonderfully made video for a fantastic wwII aircraft! Keep it up! I love learning the more technical aspects of all the planes i thought i knew alot about.
@Boric784 жыл бұрын
B-36 Flight Engineer - a job that would put you in glasses. How many dials? Also given the B-36's reputation I would expect many warning lights, the pilot shouting in your headset and the gauges going wild. Mad job - bet they loved the B-52 when it arrived, if they had not resigned their commission by then..........
@CaseyBartley4 жыл бұрын
Great engine management section, and love the deep dive on the 190! Although minor mistake, the 109s past the E's (and even some E's) had automated prop pitch. So "unified" throttle for them too. One MAJOR deficiency in the unified throttle control is the ability for fuel efficiency. Take the P38 for example, where Lindberg helped get much more range out of P38s with extreme engine settings in cruise. It's something that rarely matters in simulators for sure, though. Would love a video on the mis understandings of the P38, such a wonderful AC too, and again it's deficencies are not apparent automatically in simulators either (hard to work drop tank switches, cold cockpit because of lack of engine in front of the pilot). On IL2, I think the current g-force modelling which was recently updated works much better, and honestly seems to be about the best g-force simulation for any of the current crop of simulators. I don't fly Spits often (really very rarely), but at high speeds the FW 190 does indeed seem to be able to out turn the Spit in my limited testing there. Again just don't fly the Spit much probably need comment by someone who flies them more. 109's specifically seem to be effected the strongest by this as black out in many maneuvers happens much faster, so having to adjust years of "bad" habits from poor g-force simulations. Really don't like flying the 109s right now in that sim, probably a good thing :).
@Tesshier4 жыл бұрын
This seemingly contradicts the point about the similar positioning of pilots in german planes. You should experience the same G tolerance in the two planes. If it differs it's a mistake or game blance.
@CaseyBartley4 жыл бұрын
@@Tesshier not sure. Just from my limited testing with the new g-force mechanics. It's likely they didn't account for things like this.
@sillybirdy19944 жыл бұрын
You and Bismarck should totally collab!! You would be great for each other!!
@bat22934 жыл бұрын
Second that.
@avipatable4 жыл бұрын
I find bits like 28:20 just amazing. All that using pencils, paper and brains. No CAD or Solidworks or anything. I do feel like we have lost some of that talent.
@putinugend Жыл бұрын
At 24:50, the author discusses the complexities of controlling the propeller-engine group of Yak aircraft. It's noted that not everything was so problematic. The temperature of the cooling mixture was controlled by the automatic regulator ART-1 (АРТ-1), though it wasn’t widely used in the first series. Additionally, the propeller pitch adjustment was hydraulic and semi-automatic, controlled by the R-7 (Р-7) regulator.
@13starsinax4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure none of that is mediocre. Great information, very interesting so far, and looking forward to the next one.
@kikufutaba11944 жыл бұрын
Your channel is so wonderful. I am a University student studying mathematics but I find after watching these videos that may be engineering would be of more interest. Thank you again Greg-san for all your effort.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
As you know, engineering and math are closely related. You have to focus on the field that's best for you.
@KarayaOne3524 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the work you do on these videos Greg. I've been a long time WW2 aviation buff but i have never found any other source which goes into as much depth and detail as you do!
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant exploration of this important aircraft! As this series develops you’re clearly showing Kurt Tank’s underlying wish for simplicity of use on an inherently complex machine.
@Air-Striegler4 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous documentary, what a treasure! Very well done.
@patreidcocolditzcastle6324 жыл бұрын
man gotta love this guys dedication,like he knows every detail like what rivets they used in 1942 ha ha ha...im compulsive about my music as im a producer all my life nearly ,so i get it.if you love something its so healthy even if to the casual observer it seems crazy...well done greg i love ww2 stuff and your vids are also handy to nod off to late at nite.i bet your lady loves talking about your vids with you ha ha ha,sorry had to say that,cheers mate
@willaka124 жыл бұрын
Amazing work Greg. Thank you
@topturretgunner3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review Greg. Thorough and easy to understand. I can really appreciate the ergonomics of the FW 190. A tip of the hat to Kurt Tank and the design engineers at Focke Wulf. The 190 seems like a pilot’s airplane in so many respects. The simplicity of operation of this airplane as opposed to say a P-38 Lightning which seemed to require a great deal more attention. Especially when it came to manifold pressures and boost settings. If I could own a WWII German fighter it would be the FW 190 A8 or the D9. Both in my opinion good aircraft in their own merits.
@warrenchambers48194 жыл бұрын
Not sure how it is that I have just now found your channel???? But boy am I glad I did and I have SUBBED! Greg you sir have saved me hours as I do research on every aircraft subject I build (I'm an avid modeler both scale plastic and R/C plus sims. yeah I'm single and have that kind of time. It's glorious too!)
@nateweter40124 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I really like what you add from your unique experience both in flying and shooting. I guess that you’re at least instrument rated from your comment about searching for circuit breakers while in actual. I think that, and the gunnery concepts are excellent tidbits to add for those in the sim and enthusiast communities who may not have access to firearms or have experience flying real aircraft and with things like spatial D. Keep up the great work. This series is changing how I look at the 190.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
Hi Nate. Yes, I am instrument rated. I'm an ATP and currently a 767 Captain. I've been flying for a living since 1988, and have spent my share of time in single pilot piston engine IFR operations.
@nateweter40124 жыл бұрын
Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles That’s amazing. You’re exactly the type of guy I’m lookin up to right now. I got my B.A. in airport management and M.A. in aviation safety and went to work in management but decided to shift to flying, which I feel far behind on. I’m knuckle deep in instrument training right now, I’m close to the check-ride but still feel way behind at 30yrs old.
@colinl29084 жыл бұрын
Nice job Greg, you collate some excellent factual information, backed by your research skills and knowledge.
@kikufutaba5242 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your wonderful presentation of this beautiful aircraft. While I am afraid to fly myself I love aviation, so thank you again.
@ajgoetsch4 жыл бұрын
A wealth of detailed, relevant and incisive information. Love your channel - thanks.
@hermannalberts60384 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg, you sound like you had a 190 and a P 40 and some other birds in your garage and spent the last 40 years playing and fliyng with them.. you are really great!.thanks !
@MultiZirkon4 жыл бұрын
Greg never mention an airplane he does not have in that large room at the end of his basement!
@dbaider94674 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative. The amount of research and "love" put into this series is outstanding.
@123fockewolf4 жыл бұрын
This needs to be a TV series!! Thanks for this again!
@norbertblackrain23794 жыл бұрын
This episode was a true pleasure to watch!
@markfung5654 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Greg. Your videos are so informative and information dense. Love them.
@ME262MKI4 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful machine was FW190, so well designed
@MarkTiley14 жыл бұрын
Again, fantastically informative Greg! Thank you! Perhaps someone else has already commented previously, but the final black and white FW 190 in your video is an image of Oberleutnant Armin Faber's 190 A3 he landed by mistake at RAF Pembrey airfield in South Wales, 23 June 1942, not an A8 as indicated in the video. I so very much appreciate your hard work and amazing technical knowledge Greg. All the best.
@manowartank87844 жыл бұрын
wow... this plane is really so cool I'm not pilot, aircraft expert by any means, not even mechanical engineer... But i like technology and by explaining every single detail you really get me interested. :D
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you find it interesting.
@stug414 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Greg! I'm glad you focused on the factors that created the high reliability and operational readiness that matter so much in ensuring something is available, and of course the HOTAS style ergonomics that give a low workload and good pilot efficiency!
@johnlandrum46494 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this one. My favorite ww2 plane. Great job as always. Thanks
@davidpistek62414 жыл бұрын
Knowing usability and maintenance simplicity is a topic almost no videos address and in a practical viewpoint that is definitely a reason it was successful in war despite the poor resources the axis had tword the end
@sbvera134 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of working on classic Volkswagens. They had a deceptively simple practicality. Like having the headlights wire through the ignition circuit, so it's physically impossible to drain your battery by leaving the lights on - a feature that US cars still don't have in 2020, even with everything being electronic now. It's mechanically trivial to add this feature - just put the wire here on this already existing switch (the ignition) - but someone had to think about it and plan ahead and the manufacturer had to care enough to bother putting it in.
@luvr3814 жыл бұрын
My Subaru had the same feature, keyswitched headlights, even had a separate switch so you could have the parking lights on with the ignition off.
@sbvera134 жыл бұрын
@@luvr381 It's no coincidence that when I had to give up my VW I moved to a Subaru :) They aren't what they used to be though. 2000-2008 was the sweet spot.
@luvr3814 жыл бұрын
@@sbvera13 Mine was a '99, great car til rust ate it.
@roggy0014 жыл бұрын
But did headlight brightness vary with engine rpm? Or if it did, did that mean the voltage regulator was failing? Just a quick thought....
@sbvera134 жыл бұрын
@@roggy001 Partly because they were just really old by the time I was driving them. Partly because the generator was in the rear and the the lights were in the front, which at 12v and 5-10 amps (I forget what headlights are) that's a lot of voltage loss due to wire resistance over that distance. This goes double for the really old VW's that used 6v batteries.
@sukhoisweetheart46524 жыл бұрын
Love your videos dude. I'm more of a modern fighter buff but you explain these lovely machines eloquently. Keep up the amazing work.
@FilipusWisnumurti4 жыл бұрын
More of this fw190 series pls! My most fav ww2 plane alongside the p-47 that you've covered.
@kiwihame4 жыл бұрын
Greg, I've been sharing your videos with the Fw190 FB community (and the Me109 community) Many of them are rebuilding original planes so may be able to fill in some of your gaps. Superb video!
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! There is a 190 community? That's amazing.
@kiwihame4 жыл бұрын
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Look up Fw190 Projects and Restorations on Facebook. Lots of really interesting and informative stuff. There's a Bf-109 Projects and Restorations Page too. Sone of these guys are finding parts and building planes so they have considerable historical knowledge. Cheers.
@enriquepadilla41544 жыл бұрын
loving the series, this is one of my favorite planes ever, just as a future project subject i’d love to see a one episode analisys on the p-39 airacobra, very unusual configuration, i think it would make a very interesting episode
@KitKabinet4 жыл бұрын
This is such fantastic content to have running on your screen while modeling the actual plane kit..
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I didn't think about that. I'm going to guess you are building a Tamiya kit.
@KitKabinet4 жыл бұрын
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Actually no; for a new build vid I have three 1/72 kits on the bench; Hasegawa (D-9) Academy (D-9 to D-13) and Art Model (Ta 152). Although I'm not a very technical person, this is just such a great way to learn more about the planes that I like. Keep up the good work with this channel!
@Erik-rp1hi4 жыл бұрын
I really like the detail examination of these videos. I would do it the same way. Thanks Greg.
@edwardsmith66094 жыл бұрын
Engineering brilliance for it's time and era. Thanks for touching on the "kommando-gizmo" that I recalled hearing about in the past, but couldn't remember all the functions of it's operation. Compared to flying a P-38...this thing was a piece of cake ! The ridiculous amount of pilot input ( in many cases) of allied fighters vs. German fighters apparently amazed the Germans. Pilot overload. Alas...all for a lost cause, they still never had a way to bomb Detroit. For all of the "ifs and buts were candy and nuts, it would be Christmas everyday" crowd....the Axis never stood a chance. Truly a great graceful plane. Thanks for the killer content, great channel !!
@edwardsmith66094 жыл бұрын
To elaborate on that further, I've been watching a lot of Victor Davis Hanson videos lately. I tend to agree with him.
@MagnarNordal4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the ease of maintenance, I think the Fw 190 could only be matched by the Martin-Baker MB 5, which hereby is suggested as a new topic.
@benjaminrush44434 жыл бұрын
Watched 3 ( shown first - KZbin ) , 1 &2 . Nice Job. I could follow & appreciate explanations for this presentations as compared to other attempts by other people. I would have usually discontinued listening. My opinion : Nice Job. I understood and followed to conclusion. I'm not an aviator or an engineer, but I'm an analytical type and have a mechanical thought process. Enjoyed Fw 190 .
@iliaminkin56054 жыл бұрын
Wow, such a detailed overview of my favorite warbird! Looking forward to the next episodes.
@daseladi4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your episode 2 of the FW-190 video. The plane was full of excellent design solutions and technical concepts turned into very valuable practical solutions, and both first two parts of your FW-190 series explain that very nicely. I enjoyed getting to know more about such details. In the first part you give an very enlightening quotation of the Tanks own thoughts about his design intentions. And it begins like this: "The Messerschmitt 109 and the British Spitfire, the two fastest fighters in world at the time we began work on the FW-190, could both be summed up as a very large engine on the front of the smallest possible airframe; in each case ARMAMENT had been added almost as an AFTERTHOUGHT" ( my capitals). What comes to my mind first regarding the FW-190 is it's general conception, which makes an important turning point in the fighter design of it's time. It was a very strongly armed and consequently heavy fighter, with high wing loading and low turn performance. This latter has been sacrificed to the armament. The reason is clear; the lightly armed planes of the early thirties had to shoot for a long time at the opponent to get it down, so they had to stay with it in the turn. Arming them heavily was out of question, or they would've had a climb rate of a log. The four-cannon, instantly efficient armament was still not possible with an 1000 hp, but it became so with the 1500 hp class engines. That is how Tank designed a fighter whose armament was not an afterthought. The engine development made this possible, and so the Tank's fighter concept pushed all the previous fighters to the edge of obsolescence. I feel this deserves mentioning somewhere at the beginning of any FW-190 story, because it is about the very important contribution of this design to the history of fighter development. I hope you are going to mention it in the continuation of your nicely made series.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
All true, more power means you can have more stuff, more performance, more armor, and more firepower. Eventually I'll get to the engine, and to the weapons. We are only two parts in so far, and I felt it important to start with the more uncommon features of the 190.
@ronwilsontringue65744 жыл бұрын
The best and dominant fighter of WW2 and could out turn anything
@kenneth98742 жыл бұрын
Dominant? Lol
@marcosfernandez72074 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this very interesting video. Really impressive your approach to the Focke's main design characteristics. The comparison with then current designs was also very well done. You are a good teacher. In these last years, I had a thought about the Focke's design that pehaps could be approached with your knowledge. I've always believed the Focke was designed within two key parameters: compactness, and the less possible drag. To obtain a very low drag with a bulky radial engine, all other possible drag sources must be reduced as far as possible. This was obtainec by using the anular oil cooler, that was also armored, and refraining to adopt a dynamic air intake for the engine. From what I understand so far, engine air was taken from the engine compartment, after passing through the cooling fan and the engine hot cylinders. This was a compromisse, as the air was taken hot. I think this was the greater limitation of the project, and could probably explain why the Focke had a superb performance at its altitude optimum, but losses performance substantially out of this altitude, mostly above the rated altitude. Does this make sense? I've taken as a design comparison the La5 FN, and the progressive development of the La radial engined series. Kind regards from Brazil!!!!
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
Hi Marcos, you're questions are great, but will take too long to answer by typing. I will be addressing these issues in the next part.
@marcosfernandez72074 жыл бұрын
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Thank you, Greg, I'll be wainting here. Salut!
@The_Bookman4 жыл бұрын
Man, I love your videos. I have been looking for something like this for the last 30 yrs. Thank you for your excellent work.
@a.e.w.3844 жыл бұрын
Excellent collection of videos, I really like your summaries on prop and fuel mixture. One thing I think you should be including in your discussions is the importance of the density of air as altitude/temp changes. This is huge on propeller performance and fuel use. I speak from experience because I had hundreds of hours in the t-34c turboprop navy trainer amongst other a/c.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
I do cover density altitude in some other videos.
@Raiders19174 жыл бұрын
Greg not sure how you want viewers recommending topics, but a series of videos like this on the Willys Jeep would be awsome. After all cant forget about the other half of your channel's name lol.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles4 жыл бұрын
I do take suggestions, not only that, I have access to a pair of them just down the street, both in full military dress, guns and all, one is a WW2 and one is from Nam.
@Raiders19174 жыл бұрын
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Well its ultimately up to you weather you want to do it or not. Thanks for the clarification. Pretty convenient with those Jeeps too.
@MS-gr2nv4 жыл бұрын
I drive by the jeep plant in Toledo once in a while lol
@TreeTop19474 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic idea for a Greg's Airplane and Automobiles series, Zachary! My dad was one of the greatest generation and fell in love with Jeeps, during the war. Growing up in the 1950s and 60s we always had at least a couple of "Army Jeeps" on the family ranch. I've owned various different "flat fender" Jeeps all of my life. I've got a CJ-2A and a Willys M-38 right now and still prefer them to our Polaris Ranger, just because... Semper Fi, TreeTop
@stug414 жыл бұрын
Ha, the contrast of this to his muscle cars series would be pretty good!
@terryboehler57524 жыл бұрын
You are correct about exhaust traveling forward, especially with the canopy open to any degree. The boot around the tailwheel of the BT-13 demonstrates how Vultee dealt with the issue.
@MililaniJag4 жыл бұрын
Great info! Always thought the 190 had a very distinctive canopy. Cheers!
@alexrennison8070 Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating to learn about. Considering the German machines that posthumously luxuriate in fame are the apparently over-engineered, complex divas that appeared in small numbers. This design philosophy from Kurt Tank of minimising user-input & attention is a complete contrast. Never heard this before, thank you very much Greg.
@aaronseet27384 жыл бұрын
Kurt Tank was well-versed in Man-Machine Interface (MMI) and User Experience (UX).
@alagaihora4 жыл бұрын
I love this series so much, I actually bulid a model of Fw. 190 D9, I worked on it for several monthts and spent long hours looking ant it, but I never thought it's features are that interesting!