Focke Wulf Fw 190 vs. Supermarine Spitfire

[@bbroogs]

My close friend's grandfather flew the P51; my grandfather flew the Focke Wulf. We just found this out yesterday after being childhood friends and are hooked on your channel. Would like to offer a hearty thank you and danke schoen for all your vids, from two now-grown kids whose forefathers were on different sides of war, while we now just sit on different sides of the couch together and watch this in awe.

[@falconeaterf15]

You should be dueling for couch supremacy. Relentlessly!

[@petersanders5321]

Hey, you should read my other post here. Dad melllowed after awhile and could have sat next to his former foe and ask "hey, did we used to do that to each other? After a few seconds they might turn and say yup! All with a little wink in the eye and a chuckle. Lot's of brave guys on all sides. Stay safe.

[@free-birdrocker8809]

2 completly different birds, the mighty FW190, and the super sleek spit fire. Great exibition flying of 2 beautifully restored machines.....

[@trapper7954]

amazing, also love these planes in warthunder, to see them in real life is even better, and to watch them actually flying is wonderful

[@petersanders5321]

My father was a combat infantryman in the ETO during the war and never forgot the roar these made when they dropped down for a strafing run, guns blazing away. Told me they called it "HedgeHopping". Real tough generation, those guys.

[@marcosramos6074]

Wow, what a feat of engineering, this is greatness, thank you

[@Warbirds]

Thanks Marcos

[@ryanmoeller3308]

Such a GREAT video!! Both of the aircraft are phenomenal. There's just something about those German WWII aircraft that makes them appealing.. The FW-190 is definitely one of my favorite. 👍👍

[@Warbirds]

Thx Ryan

[@noddyspuncture]

My dad flew a 190D...:)

[@marknelson5929]

Great film piece! The Rolls-Royce Griffon sounds awesome, and the Russian radial engine used in the 190 replica sounds ok. Yes the 190 airframe is made to near accurate wartime drawings but alas no BMW 801 engines 'lying around the world' to restore and fly these days. But hell it is still an amazing piece of replication and a big thank you to all the people to enable this to happen.

[@marcox4358]

I wonder... why can't they grab an 801, do a complete scan of it and replicate it? maybe with a few upgrades given modern tech... I mean, people built completely custom blocks and engines for cars, so why can't it be made for a bigger engine like the 801? current tech allows for printing entire intake headers out of metal! or just about any metal part that you wish for, as long as the printer allows for its size...

[@NARDA1342]

@@marcox4358 German Ban all this thinks cause they believe than hiding their past it would get honor or something

[@volkerkoenig3523]

@@marcox4358 who is "they"in your question? Who will pay for rebuilding 10 or 20 BMW801 engines? Do you have an idear of the costs? It was already a huge effort from "flugwerk" in Germany to redesign and manufacture the building-set for these FW190 replicas.

[@marcox4358]

@@volkerkoenig3523 by they I mean engineers and experts in 3D modeling, by nowadays there's enought tech to do a complete scan of something and pass it to a 3D archive and print whatever you want, Porsche is now experimenting with 3D printed pistons. I know it's a gigantic sum of money, but the tech is already available.

[@volkerkoenig3523]

I don't deny that you can rebuild a BMW 801 engine today and of course with better materials and

[@stoopingfalcon891]

In a way it is a pity that Germany didn't switch production from the Bf109 to the FW 190. It was proved to be a more reliable, more rugged, and certainly a more pilot friendly aircraft than the 109. And to think, such a radical design for such a lovely aircraft came about because the only engine available for it at the time was a radial one. Outclassed just about anything the allies had available at the time of it's debut.

[@raymondjones8]

Certainly gave the Brits a shock over Mata🤭 thankfully, the Mk 9 came to the rescue😬

[@killer72500]

С Мессершмитт бой было вести труднее, чем со 190м, из воспоминаний советских лётчиков

[@mariusjustus678]

Great Video+Sound and the airplanes yeah. My plane the Butcherbird Focke Wulf i hope one day i can hear and see them live that is my dream. MC PUNK

[@Warbirds]

Then Visit Hangar10 Flyin 2020

[@mariusjustus678]

@@Warbirds thanks for the tip 👍

[@univibe23]

Noting like those amazing WWII fighters! Love the 190, it reminds me of a beefed up Zero.

[@jeremywilson4326]

FW 190 sounds awesome at idle . Thanks guys .

[@petemelanyevans9162]

Amazing . I like how you had the wolf chase the spit ...well filmed ..

[@Darrylx444]

I love your camera work. This is not easy.

[@Warbirds]

It’s also not perfect but you don’t have 2 chances

[@4freki]

Both very impressive aircraft. I for one like the appearance of the Spit and the sound of the Merlin/ Griffon, well enough said.

[@scottallen1228]

Awesome that's my air show

[@blindfredy6128]

Beautiful absolutely bloody beautiful.

[@Warbirds]

Thank you

[@Trojan0304]

Thanks for awesome vlog . Love the sound of BMW engine. Chino Air Museum FW 190 flies but not with BMW engine so enjoy the audio ✌️✌️✌️

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+ Trojan0304 This is not a BMW engine, but an ASh-82 radial.

[@leonhardhohenwarter2198]

Fuer mich sind diese Maschinen die schoensten Flugzeuge auch wen sie dem Krieg dienten. Es sind Flugzeuge wo das Wort Fugzeug richtig zu Geltung kommt. Gut das man diese Ingenieurs Kunst am Leben hält. Ich bin immer wieder Begeistert auf der Hahnweide.

[@mothmagic1]

Amazing how so many weapons of war were so graceful and in their own way beautiful. Being British of course my favourite heavy is the Lancaster but I don't think any country had a monopoly for the most beautiful fighter.

[@seniorprogrammer7585]

Those airplanes are really beasts, even the airplane refuses to shut down by the pilot @5:57

[@JF-xq6fr]

My God, seeing this has me thinking you DID NOT want a "Butcher Bird" on your six...

[@MyNamesJohnny14]

Looks so nimble and quick… scary really

[@peterszar]

It's too bad more videos like this aren't produced. It was cool to see them chasing each other. Am I imagining things, or does the front end, (wing leading edge out to the prop), resemble the Hawker Sea Fury's front section ? Another awesome video.

[@mikerobinson2026]

Am I the only one that had to resist going "taka-taka-taka-taka" at each flyby? (for those who have no idea what I am referring to, watch Universal's "The Battle of Britain")

[@stoopingfalcon891]

The issue I have with watching a video like this one is simple. The Spit was NEVER meant to be a low level fighter. It was developed initially as a high level interceptor, meant to face high level German bombers. Bringing it down to levels where it can be displayed to the public takes away most of what it is capable of. It is GOOD at low level, but it it GREAT at high level, and we just don't have the chance to see that in public displays

[@Seadog..11]

Okay we will just elevate the grandstands 30000 ft

[@getehrwolf6111]

War is over, we don't watch overperforming planes because it's a time waste, i mean, it would be cool, but for what purpose if we are not competing?

[@getehrwolf6111]

As the spitfire is a beautiful machine, as this fw190 and the mighty bf109, they're over with this, let them rest, now they're just beauties in the air

[@stoopingfalcon891]

@@getehrwolf6111 Agreed, but their place in history as some of the most beautifully designed killing machines is assured. Kind of a back handed compliment

[@albertitenjp2450]

Que lindo suena el motor BMW 801 del FW190A8 👍👏👏👏

[@mrbr4587]

El A-8/N tiene motor Shvetsov ASh-82 chino

[@albertitenjp2450]

@@mrbr4587 Gracias por la info, y bueno si hubiera un motor BNW 801 seguro no dudarían en usarlo.

[@carlosteran5617]

The focke Wulf got something sexy and "Evil" no one planes have..this fw 190A-5 Will be a beautiful 1:48 Next modelo **

[@alleswasspassmacht600]

Brutal BMW Sound of Fw190

[@Warbirds]

Great Radial Sounds

[@Slaktrax]

@AutoTopDE I believe it's fitted with an Shvetsov Ash-82 engine.

[@Warbirds]

@@Slaktrax yes for the meantime until the 801 has been finished its restroration

[@smidon]

Is there a BMW 801 being restored for this aircraft?

[@cabre4]

4 Yellow and 8 black, beatiful...

[@YZ250W1]

The FW190 is my favorite aircraft of all time.

[@Warbirds]

Ty liking

[@matthiashaenni]

WOW absolut top!!!

[@hemplum]

Was für Schönheiten! Man hört regelrecht den stärkeren Motor der Spitfire!

[@Warbirds]

Der hat mega power .

[@neuzdost1939]

Cool graphics. That SIM is this?

[@Warbirds]

LOL real Life sim

[@neuzdost1939]

@@Warbirds Wow I didn't know you should write that into the video name

[@Warbirds]

Hehe ok done 😂

[@waltergreif4836]

Ausgezeichnet!!

[@eamo106]

Is this a re-edit of the last post ? Nice !

[@Warbirds]

No different plane . This is a FW190

[@herrrainer5205]

Awesome

[@Warbirds]

thx

[@petrhaisman8645]

Great planes!!!

[@lloydrobins6074]

Correct me if I'm wrong but are these aircraft NOT of the same era? How can a valid comparison be done?

[@Warbirds]

If you send a Fw190d I’ll do it again

[@lloydrobins6074]

@@Warbirds That's fair enough but the Mk18 missed the war. You named this video "Focke Wulf Fw 190 vs. Supermarine Spitfire" which at least to me tends to indicate a direct comparison between planes that were used against each other. It's not the FW190's fault. No FW190 flew against this thing. There are Spits that did, but presumably there has not been any comparison flight between them and the FW190? Anyway, these planes were excellent examples of their versions, albeit displaced in history from each other. I was particularly interested in the FW190 - we hardly get to see them these days, I presume because they are very rare. Not so Spits, so much. Thanks for an excellent video.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

@@lloydrobins6074 There is only one wartime Fw-190 that is airworthy at Paul Allen's museum. That museum also has a Spitfire Mk. Vc in the collection. The Flugwerk replica Fw-190s differ quite a bit in construction than originals (no armor or hard points) and thus do not fly exactly the same, so no comparison has been made. Steve Hinton was a regular pilot for Paul Allen's Fw-190 and he commented that it flies just like the notes written about it.

[@markbrandon7359]

I heard there where two factors that made the Spitfire an exceptional fighter, They decided to add an extra machinegun however the wing was too small this led to the elliptical wing which greatly enhanced low speed lift and handling. I also heard a man say (not a WWII pilot) that the elliptical wing tended to buffet and chatter making a lot of noise in a sharp turn as the stress on the wings became critical meaning that even an inexperienced pilot could push his airplane to the limit where as other planes if pushed too far might tear a wing off. I've never heard an actual pilot mention this

[@arrowbflight5082]

mark johnson That is extraordinary. I have read a number of remarks by Spitfire pilots, and do not recall wing " buffet " or " chattering " ever being mentioned. One pilot popped the rivets in the wings, made it back and he noted " the kite never did fly straight after that ". Perhaps someone else may chime in. What were your thought's when the old fellow told you that ? Cheers.

[@TheHelensp]

I haven't heard anything like that story about the guns. The RAF did a study in the 30's that concluded most pilots would need the number of rounds that 8x. 303 machine guns could deliver to have a good chance of bringing a bomber down, that's why both the Spitfire and Hurricane had 8 Browning machine guns; they were developed at the same time to meet the same specification. The elliptical wing came from the designers work on the Schneider Trophy racers, which led to the Spitfire. It did give pilots a buffeting just before the stall, so was important for new pilots and helped them to get the max turn from the plane; they all knew it would turn inside the Me109 every time

[@TheHelensp]

@@arrowbflight5082 I've read one pilot got into trouble with something like 20 enemy fighters after him. He concentrated on keeping himself out of their fire, and did it long enough they all ran out of ammo or fuel and had to give up. He may have got a couple of them, but his Spitfire had to be retired after that, it was so bent out of shape! Another pilot dived on either a V1 or Me262 and went so fast his plane couldn't be used again

[@suleymanhuracanevo6312]

BMW vs Rolls Royce

[@Warbirds]

yes

[@sjoerdmeijer1]

suleyman dia Bf 109 Mercedes Benz

[@suleymanhuracanevo6312]

@@sjoerdmeijer1 yes with Amg power

[@sjoerdmeijer1]

Nothing sounds better than the bf 109

[@iamgod6464]

That should be Spitfire not BF 109.

[@raymondjones8]

Bloody foreigners! 😂😂😂😜

[@iamgod6464]

@@raymondjones8 Too right! A Spitfire is the sound of Victory.

[@anistark4360]

3:38 terrifying when the 190 was gaining on spit

[@raymondjones8]

The 190 wouldn’t gain on that Spit... That’s a Griffon, not a Merlin🤭

[@anistark4360]

You know that's not a real dogfight

[@free-birdrocker8809]

LOL! now thats funny! Ach Heimel!!

[@HaVoC117X]

@@raymondjones8 The spitfire Mk XIV and the fw 190 a8 hit 360mph at sea level in June 1944. Down low the griffin wasn't faster than 190. The fw 190 d9 could hit 380mph at sea level. At low altitudes the 190 was the better aircraft.

[@rszanger]

WW 2 aircrafts are beautiful, and German aircrafts are so attractive, and something about German Flugzeuge. ( Focke-Wulf 190, Messerschmitt 109, Heinkel 111, Dornier 17, 217, Arado 234, Junkers 88, Henschel 129, Messerschmitt 262...etc)

[@thunderresistant]

Griffon far more elegant yet more powerful. Rolls-Royce knew their job magnificently)

[@Warbirds]

Griffon is really awesome

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

BMW 42 litres, Griffon 37 litres but higher boost.

[@cobain_oficial]

Lindo demais

[@Warbirds]

Really ?

[@VidarLund-k5q]

Post war Spitfire Mk 18 and a Focke Wulf A, almost different generstions.

[@kristofthibaud8491]

make em duke it out in the sky

[@agustinperegrina1638]

The Foke Wolfe190 and the Mesersmidth 109 Where Always Superior to the Spitfire and the Mustang P51 👍😂👍

[@knightflightvideo]

So viele views und noch keine dislikes wegen fehlendem Original Triebwerk und HK an der 190? Gratulation. Ging bei mir wesentlich schneller. Trotzdem tolles Video! 👍

[@Warbirds]

Wird noch kommen. Hehe ^^

[@knightflightvideo]

haha, gut möglich. ;))

[@henryluebberstedt7819]

Ich verstehe diese Hakenkreuz-Obssesion nicht. Bei den ehem. Allierten schon eher, da ist das HK ja sozusagen das Brandmark für das personifizierte Übel, gegen das der letzte gerechte Krieg geführt wurde. Aber bei Deutschen? Das HK ist immer noch ein sehr beliebtes und gern verwendetes Symbol der Neo-Nazi-Szene. Ich für meinen Teil würde deren Markenzeichen ungern auf Airshows bejubeln wollen. Leider ist dieses Zeichen eben NICHT Geschichte, sondern steht auch heute noch für eine lebendige, menschenverachtende Weltanschauung.

[@raymondjones8]

I don’t know what you’re saying, by i have to disagree! I’m British, after all 🤨😜

[@brettlloyd5764]

Both are good WW2 fighter planes but I think the spitfire is better than fw190 when it comes to performance manueverabiliy

[@geldoncupi1]

Are you a war thunder player.. The fw 190 is an old model, while the spitfire is an 1945 model

[@brettlloyd5764]

@@geldoncupi1 no I'm just into WW2 planes, I know everything about them

[@TheHelensp]

It depends which version of each. The Spitfire MkV was outclassed by the 190, but the MkIX put it back ahead

[@raymondjones8]

@@brettlloyd5764 Then you must know, there’s a Griffon in that bird. The 190 totally outclassed the Mk5 over Malta, though we then introduced the Mk9 to save the day🤭

[@jnik_3234]

@@raymondjones8 we? you mean like the RAF back in the 1940s you have nothing to do with that and stop commenting this 3000000 times i think we got it tHaT tHe SpiTfirE mK9 sAveD tHe dAy.

[@dalegirard8453]

Pretty even 190 was keeping up with the spitefire

[@ricocortes5121]

It is the German superiority in aviation technology

[@Mikeylikesit1968]

Not your best video, you zoom in to close and what happened to the landings

[@Warbirds]

Yes messed it up

[@ИльяАзов-ь1ь]

МИГОВ на вас не хватает ! Без жажды крови просто полетать . Как было .

[@RUNIFLAVOR76]

It’s like this Spitfire F Mxi SuperMarine

[@Warbirds]

Mk. 18

[@RUNIFLAVOR76]

oh

[@Peter-ox7wh]

Radials and v12's.... I don't need nothing more

[@gregorteply9034]

That spit looks nose heavy.

[@manta1969manta]

Early Fw vs late Spit... 😂😂😂

[@raymondjones8]

Was thinking the same, not really fair, that Spit has the Griffon engine😬 Though the 190 had much success over the MK 5, the MK 9 was a different entity; as the battle over Malta proved. Both beautiful aircraft though. The 190 doesn’t look so pretty on the ground, but much like the Fury looks beautiful in flight🤭

[@cliff9708]

That Merlin starting up.. Jesus f***ing christ

[@Franky46Boy]

I think this is a Griffon engine, not a Merlin.

[@raymondjones8]

‘Griffon’ not Merlin. Not a fair comparison really. The 190 ran rings around the Spit Mk5 in Malta, then we introduced the Mk9, which was much more effective🤭

[@doriannritter2615]

Butcher bird!

[@haroldfiedler6549]

The spitfire is really a very ugly plane. Still it was a decent fighter. The FW 190 on the other hand is a truly impressive aircraft even when it's on the ground. They didn't call it the " Butcher Bird" for no reason.

[@AdamAdam-rj3rf]

Zakłamane angielskie szuje, gdyby polscy piloci zesralibyście a nie wygrali

[@iamgod6464]

The FW 190 is just an uglier copy of the Tempest Mk2.

[@Jpriest13]

Iam God , well god, sorry to say you're a few years off. The 190 was already flying before the Tempest was ever built. And it's a bit smaller for being a "copy." Tempest didn't reach squadrons till later 44.

[@iamgod6464]

@@Jpriest13 What a load of rubbish. The Tempest was fully operational by 1942 but not in great numbers so still had to be kept top secret and in reserve until they could repulse the German version of the Tempest the FW190 with overwelming numbers.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

@@iamgod6464 The basic design of the Fw-190A had already been decided by 1940 when the first production batch was ordered.

[@iamgod6464]

@@FiveCentsPlease Frank Whittle and Barns Wallis at Hawker had already designed and built the Tempest Proto type in 1936.

[@dougdarby3564]

For your information sir the FW considerably pre-dates the Hawker or for simpler minds came about by several years earlier And it is very bad form to blaspheme by the way

[@houcine7594]

When I saw this plane, I remembered General Goren when he told Hitler that I would prevent all coalition aircraft from flying over the Reich, and unfortunately he was not able to, because the Russians were stronger I remember Poland Hitler when he called it the living space and occupied it, even though it was an independent republic. On September 20, 1939, it was the first missile in World War II over a region danzig from that moment while it was suffering from crimes Against humanity, we do not say on the part of Hitler alone, And in the east it was an invasion by the Russians #hitlher in his book maein kampf The reason for the invasion of Poland is due to the Treaty of Versailles, which deprived Germany of its army and an area of ​​its territory. The thing that made me laugh at Hitler's occupation of France, which stripped him of all its heavy equipment, and when the German soldiers were discovering France, the French were not looking at their faces because they were looking at them as an enemy and forgot that they were attacking😂😂 half of Africa and plundering its wealth, and I, as an Algerian🇩🇿💪🏼, was Hitler is a strong figure for me because he Killed and captured the Jews and the French,If Stalin, Roosevelt, and the loyal soldiers were not, the whole world would speak German today😂 😂 #Fehler#hitler