Folding Rulers - Utica “Half-Bling” Pliers with Klein-Koats

[@essentialhandyman]

I've got a wooden folding ruler in my surveying kit. It comes in handy if you'r doing a measured survey, outside, on a windy day. When a tape measure would get blown around, the wooden rule stays rigid and upright. Typical use would be say measuring the height of windows or brickwork between windows etc.

[@gimble1]

No matter how stressed I am brother... I can count on your videos to relax me after a hard day of work... thank you

[@arielon13]

me too ;) even during work on the computer

[@805ROADKING]

What a wacky beginning, I thought ScoutCrafter had Jumped the Shark!! I can appreciate the time and effort that went into the Editing there Bud, well done!! As always entertaining and educational!!☺

[@TomGunnTools]

I use my wood folding ruler to remind me of my dad. Can’t help but remembering of always playing with them as a kid. They made great pretend walkie talkies by extending one section. Beautiful pliers!

[@joeheilm]

When i lived in South Florida i worked for Water Mgmt. We used the folding rulers to measure in the water. Water kills regular tape measures in no time. Wow! Those pliers are amazing. Cheers

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Sure glad you recovered from you trip up state. The jeweling looks great. I have to get some of those grips. Thanks John.

[@teresaschroepfer3695]

I love folding rulers. My uncles were trim carpenters forever and that’s what they learned with. Man I miss them. They did beautiful work. My mom always said if you have mushrooms you have a piece of dead wood under the grass. Not sure on that. Lol

[@paulsworkshop4179]

Those pliers look like a million bucks! I'd love to see that with green Klein-Koats, but I don't think they come in other colors. You gave me a new appreciation for the folding rulers. I have seen cabinet makers use those because, according to them, they are more accurate. I never realized you could use it to recreate angles. I have a few around somewhere, but I might pick up one with the brass add-on.

[@ScoutCrafter]

I would love to see Klein Koats in Orange, Green, Yellow and Blue! 😃👍

[@watchfast1]

Use that brass extender to get accurate inside dimensions. You can extend it to less than the six inch rule length. This is valuable for measuring corner to corner across a drawer to ensure that it is square before you clamp it to let the glue dry.

[@justafanmarvel9669]

That's righr.. exactly what it is for! And I believe that the first one that he showed with the groove cut in it was for scribing like a compass.. I vaguely remember a pin in that groove from when I was a kid.. should have paid more attention back then lol

[@Stillnapie]

I use a folding rule all the time in the shop. The brass slide extension is for taking inside measurements and diagonals. I find the folding rule far more useful for woodworking in the shop.

[@kevinbrassil9836]

Cracked up at the “transport” vignette. Those pliers look like Dorothys slippers! Thanks again really enjoyed.

[@AaronBelknap]

I like those old rulers. Dad had some and I was always messing with them. He had them in his electrician belt. Those Klein Koats are awesome. I'll keep an eye out for some. The beginning had me in tears. That was funny,

[@brianmcguire5005]

I was the safety director over the second largest city park in the US (next to Central Park) here in Tulsa. And most of the playground equipment was made in Germany and their guys came over and assembled them. They had no idea about OSHA or any of our regulations haha but my point of saying this is all of them used folding rules. They kept asking why we used those crap tape measures haha. Very interesting.

[@ScoutCrafter]

That's interesting, I know they aren't conductive around electricity... =D

[@fabiandaroca]

Hey Scout, I come across some Klein and Utica at estate sales every now and then. Beautiful tools. I restored an old Utica recently. I think they were like needle nose pliers or something. After cleaning them out I sold it on ebay. I don't keep everything I find or I would have a million tools but rest assure I keep quit a few. Nice job on those!!

[@ScoutCrafter]

They were really made well back then! Estate sales are the best place for good deals!

[@Resto-Rob]

Awesome start to the show. The pair of lineman pliers look amazing! 👍

[@johnduff6436]

Outstanding work on the pliers. The Bling is Back!!

[@MrHowieZ1973]

Those Pinch-O-Matic rulers used to get me all the time as a kid. Blood blister heaven. lol

[@JohnDaker_singer]

Why am I not surprised that you invented the teleporter. I knew it would happen eventually and I’m glad it’s you.

[@stuartlockwood9645]

Hi scout, here in the uk we call them KD fasteners, I like them for projects that require a strong joint, as combined whith dowels to stop twisting of the joint their more or less fit and forget,lol. Nice job on the pliers, they look too nice to use now,lol. Thanks for the video, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart.uk.

[@glengrossnickle4985]

I never used the folding ruler much. But when I was a kid my dad used one. I remember it was always fun to play with. He carried one for work but i never knew what he used it on he was a painter for a college. He put glass in Windows also so maybe that was it. Stay safe and healthy my friend. Thanks

[@hamroad1956]

The Lufkin with the extended slider extension is fantastic for taking extremely accurate inside-measurements. Corner to corner inside a cabinet, for example.

[@rolando3853]

Rebar Rodbusters use foling ruler for marking rebar spacings,get propper distance from cement forms and old timers used them as plumb bobs for setting freeway columbs.

[@daveogarf]

BRILLIANT OPENING SEQUENCE, SC! Nice editing, and great concept. Gotta' love that jewelling/engine turning.

[@rawbacon]

The Jeweling looks Fantastic with those Red Klein-Koats........I spent a few years around many different trades and maybe saw a couple block layers using a folding ruler, most people just use a regular tape measure............I have a small collection of Yardsticks, not because they're so useful but because the advertising is So Cool......Every store used to give away Yardsticks, not just Hardware/Lumber Stores (Grocery Stores, Carpet Stores, Plumbing Supply, Etc.).......Nothing better when you're a kid and someone at a store gives you something for Free. BTW There's a Huge Vein of Hedgehog Mushrooms out back at my Farm, must run a good 200 yards.

[@ScoutCrafter]

I love yardsticks!! =D

[@lewiemcneely9143]

@@ScoutCrafter Some of the folding mason deals had measurements of different courses with different thickness mud joints. Used for laying out corners. I took bricklaying a hundred years ago.

[@rawbacon]

@@lewiemcneely9143 They had a special Mason's folding ruler?

[@lewiemcneely9143]

@@rawbacon Sure did. Had layouts for brick and block with different thickness mud joints. Used for setting up corners where there wasn't anything to go off of. Haven't seen one since I got out of school. I took masonry as a senior but every blasted boy took home ec too.

[@lotsabirds]

I think its like this....when you pull out the caliper, there's a pin that fits in that slot that you dont see unless the caliper is opened. When its closed, the pin slides up into the slit, and with slight tension keeps the caliper in its closed position when not in use. If there is no pin, look to see if there is a little hole where the pin used to be. I could be way off the wall, but I think that could be it.

[@OldSneelock]

The angle trick is a new one for me. 😁😑😎

[@michaelkearney8146]

Great video! Those pliers look brand new! The Klein-Koat looks really good on those pliers to. 😃👍

[@janderson8401]

The six foot folding rule still has a place in my work truck. In fact I keep one in my errand running truck, my garage, our kitchen “junk drawer”, and the basement. The primary use is taking inside measurements, for example getting the exact width of a window sash. I also like it when bending aluminum trim for a job. And when I worked for Ralph DeAngelis, we would often use a 6’ folder as a grade rod with his builder’s level. There are special folding rules for masons where multiples of standard brick and block dimensions are highlighted.

[@johnkelley9877]

The pliers look great and I really like the jeweling. The Klein Coats really set off the handles and with that jeweling it is a work of art. Thanks for sharing this and the great information on the folding rulers. I never knew you could figure angles and their measurement with them.

[@coachjeff493]

Hi mate ..... simply loved this show ..... one of your best ever.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Thanks so much Jeff!

[@christopherweaver4733]

Crazy “trip” upstate🙃😂👌 Pliers came out beautiful 👍 Informative and a great laugh! Cheers Crafter!!

[@corydriver7634]

The sliding brass insert is for inside measurements where the next increment is less than a full rule. Inside a cabinet unfold three sections but the fourth won’t quite fit-slide the brass insert to fill the difference.

[@adude7050]

Great video I use mine for plumbing and some carpentry. I keep one in my plumbers bag to measure drain pipe when installing sinks.

[@richardhester6877]

The slit in the brass caliper is used to create drag in the dovetail by "springing" it slightly by prying the open end a little wider with a knife blade or something similar.

[@RightOnJonCrane]

Those Bling pliers are awesome!! 😎 Yes I want to snap my fingers and be at Yonah Schimmel’s in NYC having a knish!! 😃👍🏼

[@ScoutCrafter]

With brown mustard! =D

[@horriblebastard1374]

And a cel-ray Dr. Browns…

[@yrtuag]

👍😎🤠🇺🇸 very nice! Probably already been mentioned, but that pair of Linesmen has a fish tape puller. Those grips will come in handy using that feature 👍

[@aroundthehousewithpat31]

Great Video! That was too funny! My wife came out to the living room to see what I was laughing at so hard.

[@Everythings_Adjustable]

Thanks for the information on the rules, very interesting 👍👍

[@alobaidibaghdad]

I love how this plaiers look with the red colour. Wish to have one

[@bigpete4227]

Those particular mushrooms used to grow in one of the rough fields next to my school as a kid. Double maths was an experience I can tell you.

[@baragoth]

In Sweden the folding ruler is quite commonly used. I would say it is far, far more common for carpenters to carry then a tape measure.

[@davidcoats1037]

Those Utica ‘half bling’ pliers look fantastic! You do good work with a belly full of magic mushrooms. 😆 Joe’s little wooden ruler is in a league all its own. Just a really neat little item. Take care! 👍🏼

[@stephenwhittier6439]

As an old lineman, the first thing we did was to cut the coverings off those pliers and wrap electrical tape on them. Twice the leverage ! 🤗

[@almacli8360]

That’s what I was taught as well

[@JohnDaker_singer]

John, Lou from Tips From A Shipwright uses those wooden measuring sticks every day. That guy is a master shipwright, the best I’ve ever seen. He’s old school, but also embraces modern tools like electric planes and composite materials. You should check out his channel if you haven’t already.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Hi John- Yes, I'm a long time subscriber, he is amazing!

[@MrShobar]

Tape measures have been progressively modified to mimic the performance of the folding rule. The tape measure blade is now much wider and stiffer than tape measure blades back in the day, and now uniformly have a blade-lockng feature.

[@vincentwesolowski459]

In the subway, not the sandwich shop, metal tape measures are verboten because you have exposed 3rd rail. The transportation employees are familiar with this safety rule but when contractors come on the property they seem to want to use their metal tape measures. You have to come down on them because sure enough they will burn themselves up when that tape measure come in contact with the running rail and the 3rd rail.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Excellent point! 😃👍

[@alansmith4734]

1). Zoos give mushrooms to Tortoises, as a treat! 2). To apply Handlebar Grips to a bicycle, you spray the bar end with soapy water & slide them on. To remove Handlebar Grips, insert an air nozzle under the edge, and the air gently lifts the grip enough so that you can twist and remove the grip. It might work on those Pliers Grips? 3). For repeat cuts, you can mark your ruler using a Dry Erase Marker. The 'mark' can then be rubbed off, when done. If you accidentally use a Sharpie, rub a Dry Erase Marker on the Sharpie mark, to remove it.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Great tips Alan!!!!!!

[@rickshiley4842]

Scout! That cut in the brass is the way the sliding blade is tensioned. It allows the end of that sliding blade to be spread so that it has resistance in its slot, to hold an adjustment.

[@johnmclaurin]

Oh boy! Reminds me of college in the 60’s ......I, myself, never did any of that stuff, just saw others doing it!😇

[@ricksolari9570]

That kerf allows you to spread the brass slightly to maintain constant friction on the slide.

[@rushley5813]

I use my wooden tape to cut drop ceiling tiles its stiffer than using a tape measure they also work well for circle cutting

[@paintnamer6403]

Those grips are better than the string wrapped tool dip handles I made in shop class.

[@TJB1510]

THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME. GRATE VIDEO JOURNEY. STAY SAFE.

[@357magdad]

The jeweling looks sweet! Watch out for those funny 'shrooms!

[@chrisedwards2054]

Lol! I love you man what a great and fun video please keep it up put a smile on my face.😄

[@Aubreykun]

Those Kleins are using the later date code from what I'm seeing in a quick search (look up the alloy-artifacts website). The 8 is a lot number or something, the rest would translate to "9471" which I assume means September 4th 1971. That means this would have been early production for the new 1972 date code. ... It may also be possible that it was an internal prototype - I doubt it, but you can always try to call or email Klein themselves to find out.

[@ScoutCrafter]

I might give Klein a call!!! Thanks!

[@2012Guardian]

The 'notch' puts pressure on the side so the sliding is more controlled.

[@ScoutCrafter]

I agree!

[@wayneessar7489]

I love my Lufkin red end folding rules! Much more modern than the one you showed though.

[@alexstools]

I use my folding ruler quite often actually. I seem to trust it more then my tape ruler, my neighbor is a carpenter, I know he uses a wooden folding ruler all the time for the shorter distances, the tape measure is used for the longer distances. Anyways, I'd like some of that mushroom I do think! Have great day and thank you again!!

[@tmillsaz]

I use folding rules when working in dirt to measure hole and trench depths, because the tapes tend to suck in the dirt and grit and get bound up.

[@hulkpeace]

Here in germany, folding rules are much more common then tape measures in most trades.

[@torquemada6781]

I can confirm

[@ScoutCrafter]

I find that so interesting... Thanks!

[@TakeAmericaBack2010]

I fast forwarded to the "Yoots". They turned out Byootiful!

[@Clipbrd]

Love your sense of humor,,,,, stay safe..

[@TJB1510]

MOST LIKELY YOUR BEST VIDEO.

[@christopherharrylang7424]

Those magic shrooms must of sprouted from that there bear scat you found earlier.

[@unwired1281]

Are we sure those weren’t marshmallows Scout made look like mushrooms 🍄

[@ScoutCrafter]

LOL It was a marshmallow!!!!!!!

[@unwired1281]

Fool us once......😂

[@wildonpriddy1800]

The square end on electrican pliers used for reaming I.d.0n conduit after saw cut

[@briansworkshop01]

Nice job and a great video thanks for sharing and remember#stay safe and make 🍺🍺👍👍

[@surfstrat59]

Boy, do I remember folding rulers.... my dad had several in the garage! 🇺🇸🧰🧯🧼🔭🗄

[@markrandall1456]

I love those rulers. I've had a few. There's overall pockets Just for that tool. Do you get royalties Or product instead? The hue of those KleinCoats Is ScoutCrafter Red. That psychedelic music sounded like 70's porn music. Well, at least someone told me that. I have no personal knowledge on that subject. From the city where the interstate highway system started in 1956, thanks for the fun! :-)

[@jimmacdonald9746]

Love the plier handles , unfortunately we are unable to get the Klein koats here in Northern Ireland . Great vid John 🇬🇧✊🏻

[@timmysixgun]

I’ve been a plumber for 22 years. I’ve always used a folding ruler. Not one of the many that I’ve owned were stolen.

[@tonylenge424]

Great video, thanks. You know every time you snapped your fingers the Port Authority charged you $16 dollars for bridge toll crossing!😃

[@ScoutCrafter]

LOL- My E-Z Pass will be maxed out again! =D

[@lakemalone4886]

My father in law had a collection of folding rulers some are inside measuring some outside neat

[@greghomestead8366]

Enjoyed the video 👍👍

[@juancentenno8522]

that dimple on the folding ruler was eithder made by the maker or a previous owner to create extra friction so the brass section doesnt come off easily !

[@johnwoodruff9099]

I use my folding rule for all my setup on the table saw

[@Dardrum]

good man

[@tonylenge424]

Me too

[@bjornolsson7953]

In Sweden folding roulers are bigger then tape measures. Carpenters and electriciens use them.

[@danohstoolbox]

Great video john i need to get some of them kline coats

[@lewiemcneely9143]

Youn and Scotty! My dad had a folding lLufkin when I was a kid and I probably killed it and the Klein coats are BEAUTIFUL! Go back upstate and dodge the big blow that's really politickal than hurricane. GBWYou John SC!

[@aubreyleonae4108]

I used one as a guinea hopper for a blade opperator on a road construction crew, 1980s

[@lordvengerx]

Haha I watched a scoutcrafter video as Marco sets up to come ashore. Ain't no hurricane messing up my Mish mosh Monday. Haha remember when you hit yourself with the car walking across the street :p. The white plain mushrooms are some of the worst. Aka the killer Angels I have destroying angels grow in my back yard. I love the folding rulers so much. Thanks Scout:D 👍

[@saigaking]

Man they are some sweet pliers scout great video I have a few sets with no plastic handles I will have to try and hunt some down they look great on great in the hand I bet fantastic god bless take care 👍🇳🇿🪓🐶🛠🇺🇸

[@patkane5018]

I think Steven Spielberg will be calling soon.. some amazing special effects today.

[@wiburnham]

Oh Wow! The colors!!

[@toolscarriagesmodellbauand7246]

The best video you ever made! Gratulations! Its a little bit like some scenes in Easy Rider. Great.

[@matthewelliott8198]

i use a folding rule daily. you name it, i use it. also, what color is scoutcrafter red? i love the color and would love to pick some up for my own tool restorations.

[@Liamovs12]

I think the code on the klein markings translates to 9471, which would be the fourth quarter of 71. Apparently the code system changed after 72 so i'm not fully sure what the 9 stands for but its close enough i reckon.

[@gardener123ful]

I like to use my ruler to set a table saw fence, seems like it works good....

[@dennisgolden1337]

How do you do Jewelrying? First I have heard of it.

[@ronsbeerreviewstools4361]

ha ha begining of this video,might be up for an academy award, especially the magic mushroom part ha, I worked for a Utility company in Eastern Mass. and they issued us tools, and the rulers were always Lufkin foldable wooden rulers, we could not use metal tapes. Cheers !

[@jamesmclaughlin5610]

That’s the perfect combination of Dorothy and Alice.... have a wonderful week.....James

[@bobbyw9046]

John, please tell me what brand and style buffing wheel and polish you use. I have tried Red Rouge and and Tripoli without achieving great results like you do. The combination makes a huge mess and the 8" buffing wheel sheds al over the shop. Any suggestions would be welcome - thank you!

[@ScoutCrafter]

buffing wheel- smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B003UOLUQ6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Compound- smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000DD35Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@bobbyw9046]

@@ScoutCrafter THANK YOU SIR!! Will buy them.

[@alex43111]

The little notch in the brass section, it's just a guess, could be to expand the blass into the wood and not fall out. Sorry for the bad english.

[@billlink7116]

Love your humor

[@OldSneelock]

Klein-Liars question. How do I know what size to buy? I expect to get a few over time but don't want to get the wrong size. I use to go to King Electric and just hold up the pliers to check size. 😁😎

[@ScoutCrafter]

Dave- The Klein Koats come in two sizes 60 fits 6" Pliers and the 89 fits 8-9" Pliers...

[@OldSneelock]

@@ScoutCrafter Thanks John. 😁😎

[@robfahey1349]

Ah I always like seeing a nice pair of kleins. I actually generally like the factory dipped handles instead of the klein kotes and I actually purchased a channellock brand as I got tired of blowing up the kleins but I noticed their dipped grip comes off unlike the klein which i never had an issue with. Any tips for me to fix this issue with the channellocks to stay with the dipped handle. Ive tried pulling it off to see about using crazy glue or silicone etc to hold it in place putting it back on, but it doesn't budge more than 2 inches or so.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Hi Rob- That's funny because I rarely hear of Channellocks loosing their grips! They are hot dipped...

[@robfahey1349]

@@ScoutCrafter exactly its my first pair of channellock lineman pliers and I've never had that issue with the klein branded so im not sure if it was just a bad prep and dip or if its all the channellock ones. Ive never had issue with their tongue and groove. Just somehow this one within 3 weeks of use the grip twisted and began backing off and i readjusted it and then it just became a constant problem. I never became a fan of the klein say journeyman series with the thick handles as i feel they are hard plastic and uncomfortable for all day use. Maybe I will eventually cut them off and replace them with klein kotes I guess

[@Fred19Flintstone]

I am a commercial and industrial real estate appraiser by trade. I use my Lufkin wooden ruler all the time when I'm measuring buildings to help determine building height. When I reach up, my hand reaches eight feet tall. When I'm holding a six foot ruler, I can accurately measure a building up to 14 feet tall and most any that are taller, I can estimate with reasonable accuracy.

[@stevewalker7822]

When I was doing electrical work I’d use my folding ruler to read scale on blue prints.

[@oldschoolworks840]

Love your timing on the Klein Koats video. My Klein Koats just came in the mail. Question for you -- do you put anything on the pliers handles to prevent rust? What keeps the handles from rusting inside of the new Klein Koats, especially since you just pulled them out of water? Thanks!

[@ScoutCrafter]

I always polish and wax my handles before putting on the Klein-koats, So far never any rust yet but I was pondering the same thing when I first got them! =D

[@oldschoolworks840]

@@ScoutCrafter I just finished restoring my Kleins. After a thorough wire-brushing (I don't have belt sander or buffer), I applied a coat of shellac and let it dry overnight. Today I added the Klein-Koats and now I have a much-improved set of vintage Kleins! Many thanks for your super-helpful videos and tips!

[@thomasdement7885]

I use mine to measure inside dimensions, which you can't do with a metal tape measue.

[@pabloantelo2946]

Hola antiguamente también eran útiles si medias en altura (en vertical) donde las cintas métricas se doblan. Aquí en Uruguay la marca líder siempre fué Stabila.

[@ScoutCrafter]

That makes sense! Much more stiff! Thanks Pablo!!!!!!!