My 7.9lb FKT unsupported gear list (Superior Hiking Trail)

[@FollowBigfoot]

Full gear list on lighter pack: ://lighterpack.com/r/zauj5q

[@leoneljace4650]

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[@aidentaylor8119]

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[@leoneljace4650]

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[@leoneljace4650]

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[@aidentaylor8119]

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[@jongrall]

Great video, Bigfoot. If I was doing this hike I would have swapped out a few items: 1) Trail bidet instead of wet wipes & TP. Cleaner, lighter, less waste. 2) Ultralight hammock instead of hexamid. Arguably better sleep, off the wet ground. 3) Shorter USB & charging cables (2 inch) and tiny lightning adapter dongle for iPhone. 4) Wouldn't have brought a GPS watch. Seems redundant if you have an iPhone and Garmin. I've never used one. 5) As you said, different poles. The carbon version of those same CNOC poles failed on me not long ago in a similar way. I switched to Leki. 6) Different shoes. I used to love the Altras (had both Lone Peak and Olympus) but I find they just don't hold up to abuse. I switched to Salomon. 7) Anything to get the food weight down. 18lbs for 8 days sounds like a lot. I average 1.5lbs per day. Anyway, none of that matters, because you did it, and you still made the FKT! In the end these things are mostly mental and not about the gear.

[@luboyanev]

Good points, a few comments from me regarding: 1) Trail #2s - You could also leave the trail bidet (and the TP). I use leafs, and then pour some water in my hand and finish up this way, then wash hands 2) Hammock - The hammock is gonna be much heavier and gonna require longer time, both things you want to use as smart as you can on an FKT 7) Food - For doing an FKT you need a lot of food, many more calories that you would normally eat if casually hiking. Just over 2lbs per day is actually very light for the amount of cals needed

[@FollowBigfoot]

Hey John! Appreciate you weighing in. Just a couple things from my perspective: - Bidet: I haven’t tried this yet and actually want to, but wasn’t going to do anything new on an FKT (learned my lesson from the past). I use wet wipes to also clean up my legs when I roll into camp late and am too lazy to wash them. Hammock- Setup is much heavier and I have never veered off from a tent. I will try it in the future, but for an FKT like this, the weight element of my shelter was key area I could cut weight on. Cables- absolutely right! GPS watch- I would never give it up. I use it to keep me on track and use it almost like a runner used a pacer. It works out great as a back up to prove my hike, but it’s really because of all the essential data it provides me that helps me stay on track. Just works for me. Poles- absolutely! Shoes- I am usually limited with my wide stumpy feet. I choose altras as the toe box has been the most comfortable I’ve found. I’m always looking for others that will give the comfort a run for its money. Does Solomon have any with a very wide toe box? Food- The other person that commented was absolutely right. I had to eat 4500-5000 calories a day to have the energy to average 41+ miles a day. When I walked across the finish line, all I had was a snack package of ritz peanut butter crackers and 2 freeze dried dinners left. I believe my food was the most dialed in piece of my gear. I don’t think I could have planned it much better. Thanks again man for weighing in!!!!

[@jongrall]

@@FollowBigfoot Hey Bigfoot, thanks for the reply! Makes sense about the food and the GPS watch. I've never attempted a FKT, so I can see how things might be different for such a special case. On the hammock, I agree they are heavier, but the difference isn't as great as most people have heard, and the improved sleep (especially being off the ground in wet weather) can really be worth the weight. It's true that you won't find a hammock as light as a hexamid. On the shoes, I switched to Salomon on the JMT which I completed last month. My Olympus Altras already had too many miles on them when I started, and by VVR they were just destroyed. So, I picked up the "Odyssey Triple Crown" which is marketed as having a wide toe box. I found that they were almost as roomy as the Altras, but were actually more comfortable and much tougher on the rocky terrain of the Sierra Nevada. I think I'm going to stick with Salomon for the time being after having a good experience with those shoes.

[@everest1sierra2]

I love how you just casually slip in that you achieved the FKT! I was wondering if I had missed something! Congratulations! Looking forward to more videos.

[@FollowBigfoot]

Thanks Dawn😊 It won’t be so casual when I drop a couple other videos on the hike, but just trying to be humble. I am honored to have the opportunity to hold the torch for a period of time!

[@BachausX]

Congratulations again, that's huge! Thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge. I appreciated getting a chance to chat at PCT days.

[@Politikn]

Start with a congrats! You are much more experienced than me but I would recommend a pill pouch or two of epson salt and a 1 gallon ziplock (not a big weight add). Use as a soak for your feet if the toenail has issues often. Helps with possible infection and swelling.

[@mikestanford6418]

I would like to thank you, best night sleep I had on the trail after using your sleeping pad/pillow hack. Worked perfect and fixed a lot of the issues that kept waking me up throughout the night. Great video and congrats on the record time!

[@FollowBigfoot]

Glad to hear! Thanks for letting me know Mike!

[@MiyagiontheTrail]

Congratulations my friend! I know the pain you endured. You are a beast. Huge accomplishment. Heal up and get back out there!

[@FollowBigfoot]

Thanks Miyagi!!!

[@tinmanandoliveoylsadventur7129]

D2 here. I have done track and field, cycling, competitive martial arts, raquetball, boxing, and then my favorite hiking/backpacking. I'm now 61 and slowing down although I'm preparing for the PCT 2020. As a lover of the wilderness, I'm not a fan of FKT but as an athlete, I love it. I don't think that I will use many of your gear but agree that watching the weight matters. Perhaps I'll meet you at PCT 2020 cascade locks. Cool video.

[@alanhughes1662]

Great job man! I know you must have been in the hurt locker a long time! Way to overcome challenging situation! I bet your heart sunk when you both broke a pole and realized you dropped your bottle way to press on!

[@FollowBigfoot]

It was a sickening feeling. I thought something was telling me I shouldn’t be out there. My feet were hurting for quite a while. I couldn’t wear shoes for about 5 days because my feet were so swollen

[@luboyanev]

Congrats on the FKT, and thanks for sharing the gear list - so much comfort with so little weight! Just a small note - I think there is a mistake in the lighterpack link about the weight of the stakes - 4grams/stake or 28g/7stakes would be nice, but I think it may be incorrect. I know its a tiny weight difference, but we are all gram weenies that we use lighterpack haha. Again thanks for sharing

[@MrRodder70]

Congrats, Bigfoot! Glad you're publishing to the channel again, too!

[@BrockyMountain]

Congrats from a fellow Minnesotan! SHT is a gem

[@dmosier]

I sincerely hope that people understand that this type of traveling is extremely perilous and is essentially 'racing' and not hiking. There is zero margin for safety, let alone comfort. Congratulations on your FKT.

[@FollowBigfoot]

Absolutely, this is more of a race than hike, however, I didn’t run much of anything. I just spent more hours hiking. Although it being a FKT, there are only minor changes I would make in my gear list if I was doing another long distance hike. Besides a different shelter if it was bug season and being seasonly prepared, this setup is comfortable for me, but that doesn’t mean it will be to someone else.

[@joe_hikes]

Congratulations on your SHT record! That's an awesome accomplishment.

[@jasonwish-]

Great job Rory! Really looking forward to seeing the trail videos! Your gear list is very similar to mine. I will be attempting the self supported FKT on the 333 mile Sheltowee Trace in a few weeks. I would love to try for the unsupported but I just don’t think I wanna carry that much food especially when I will be walking by numerous restaurants and gas stations just off trail. I’ve been watching your past FKT videos and Learning a lot!

[@FollowBigfoot]

Best of luck Jason! Let me know how your hike goes

[@driftwood4458]

A few questions and comments about your FKT. I hiked 180 miles of the SHT starting at Split Rock and ending at 270 Degree finishing 9/20 just missing you. Yes, the trail is rugged, challenging and wet. My old CNOC poles are junk, too. My feet were wet most days from wading through lots of mud and water. I assume your feet were wet, too. How did you treat your feet at camp? If you camped at designated camp sites with latrines why did you take your poop scoop? Can you share the food you took? Keto? I thought the Montbell pants are wind pants not rain pants. Looking forward to more videos.

[@FollowBigfoot]

Hey Driftwood, good questions: 1) wet feet- it was miserable. The trail was so damn wet. I took of my socks each night to let me feet air dry and didn’t use my spare pair of socks till about Day 5. I also made sure I cleaned my feet and legs each night and I would apply leukotape on any hot spots I had. 2) I camped at a designated campsite each night. The reason why I always bring a trowel is I am usually not on a schedule when I have to go #2. I used my trowel 3 times because I had to go really bad and I was nowhere close to a campsite to go. Most of the time it hits be when I’m hiking. 3) I will do a video on this. I was not on keto during this hike. The extreme mileage I was doing during training hikes didn’t mesh well when I was on keto. I did eat Next Mile Meals for my dinners however, which are keto meals. My favorite is the beef tacos and I would pair it up with a tortilla for an amazing on trail burrito. I had a variety of bars during the day and for lunch I did peanut butter and jelly tortillas. I took a 30-40 min lunch break everyday to let my feet rest. 4) I mistakenly said tachyon rain pants, they were actually the versalite rain pants.

[@slopetechno]

really helpful, great ultralight gear list without losing too much, thanks for the walkthrough!

[@juanpms24]

HEY!!! CONGRATS!!! cool article on the StarTribune!!

[@FollowBigfoot]

Thanks Juan!

[@TennesseeSlim]

Leki poles seem to hold up well. They have a pair that has it's own glove type straps that are extremely convenient and comfortable.

[@ethanlehman9052]

I've been looking at the Skylight Designs rain jacket, about 4 oz lighter than the zpacks vertice

[@FollowBigfoot]

I haven’t checked it out. It’s 2oz?

[@ethanlehman9052]

@@FollowBigfoot thought zpacks was 7oz, heard it's about 3oz. But the guy doesn't make many.

[@johneason6540]

Great job on the FKT, right out of the gate, failed trek poles and lost water bottle, had to have had a mental issue to overcome and still set a record! What can be said, you packed right. Awesome ending to the video.

[@renaecummings8068]

Did you bring base layers? I would’ve been concerned about cold temps at night or did you just wear your rain pants. Congratulations on your achievement. I’ve learned so much from your channel.

[@FollowBigfoot]

I wore my rain pants and was comfortable the whole time. If I would have started later I probably would have had to bring a base layer for my bottoms

[@natalieberg2102]

First time I've heard of supported/unsupported hiking, so I've learnt something new :D Turns out all I've ever done is unsupported. Not much "support" in that sense in the Norwegian mountains :p haha

[@snowymatrix]

Yeah it's another what's in my bag video on KZbin but it's who's making the video that counts! ;-)

[@uptrail7169]

Congrats on your amazing SHT hike! I thought that my SHT hike in May was good hiking a little over 200 miles in 13 days. 😯 Very Good job with your gear video!👍

[@FollowBigfoot]

Thanks Brother!

[@badderthanyou]

Electrolyte chews and ear plugs for sleeping.

[@rageoid]

First, many congratulations - that is a difficult task and you got it done ! Second, appreciate another gear list, especially one that is dialed down tight. One thing I have switched to is toothpaste tablets, or just bring a tiny plastic bottle of baking soda. I buy the tablets in the biggest bottle I can find and then bring the desired amount in zip-loc snack bag. In addition I bring a few tabs of Tylenol in addition to Ibuprofen, as for me, sometimes one will work better for a specific problem than the other. Props for over 25 pounds in that pack ! Fellow Minnesotan here who admires your accomplishment and appreciates your well done hiking videos.

[@FollowBigfoot]

Thanks Dan! I’ve never tried toothpaste tablets. Do you just get them wet and throw it on your toothbrush?

[@rageoid]

Follow Bigfoot - pop tablet in mouth, chew a little, and you're ready for vigorous brushing - I first bought a few from a cottage company, maybe Litesmith. The I saw that consumer behemoth Amazon sold them in 60 count bottles for about $7.00 - called "Archtek Toothpaste Tablet Mint" - I do not use the tubes any longer, these tabs have been winners for me.

[@OnAGoodDayProduction]

Hey, turns out we share a birthday! Congrats on the FKT!

[@FollowBigfoot]

that’s great! I have a friend that shares the same day as well!

[@AJKPenguin]

Happy belated gents. : )

[@jasonwish-]

Forgot to ask you what your log and send intervals were set at on your in reach mini. I have my send interval set at 10 minutes and I noticed when my log interval was set at two minutes wasn’t accurate enough so I changed it to one second but I’m worried that could drain my battery quickly. What works best for you and did you start and stop Your tracking each day and did you ever use auto track? Thanks!

[@FollowBigfoot]

I started with 20 min and log at 2 min. I was charging my device every other day. I then changed it to 30 min, and when my battery brick went down to 1 light, I changed it to 1 hour with 5 min intervals. It will be much more accurate on faster intervals, but it will suck your battery. This is why I bring a GPS watch as its far more accurate. I really use my inReach for people to track me, communicate if I don’t have a signal, and of course if there is a dire emergency I always have a way to communicate that.

[@a.w.thompson4001]

Congratulations, Bigfoot! So happy for you. Thanks for the gear list.

[@trexmobile1]

Congrats on the FKT. Cool that I met you on trail in June.

[@dgmc3650]

Does your record still hold a year later? Oh, and a belated happy birthday!

[@AndrewHikesBergs]

I’m looking into buying the Altra Lone Peak 4.5. Any recommendations between the 4.5 vs. 4.0? I’ve really enjoyed your videos, and have upgraded some equipment this Winter based on your recommendations. Congrats on the SHT FKT!

[@irontigerrambles743]

Bigfoot, we need a keto update. It appears to be working well for you. I'm particularly interested in how you've found the low carb regimen couples with extreme hiking?

[@FollowBigfoot]

Ill have to do an update once I get done with the FKT series and Halloween. Good idea 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@bigbear42088]

New trail to the bucket list!! Go Lake Superior!!

[@notsearching]

Congrats and thanks for sharing! Are you planning to share your food choices? I'm curious what worked and what you'd have changed.

[@FollowBigfoot]

Yep, I’ll address this in a stand alone video or during a Q&A I’ll do about my FKT

[@notsearching]

@@FollowBigfoot Thanks!

[@battlereadyarmor]

I see that Zpacks is still giving away free stuff to popular KZbinrs while ignoring normal people who spent a lot of money on something and got faulty products.

[@tofflans]

When do we get a bar gear list video?

[@chuckoffcampus9738]

Nice video. Congratulations on your FKT record!

[@lungs2919]

I would personally chose the nocturnal method and leave the sleeping bag at home to save weight

[@AmyHikes]

That’s amazing. I love the size of that tent packed down. I will be looking to get one of those definitely.

[@FollowBigfoot]

It’s soooo small, about the size of a softball

[@stevenpeterson8444]

man, Altra must be extremely comfortable because all i ever hear is how quickly they break down.

[@FollowBigfoot]

I have really wide feet, so for me, it works well

[@jhonyermo]

I have not found them to break quickly. Have you tried them out?

[@stevenpeterson8444]

YERMO Adan no, i haven’t. specifically because everyone always talks about how quickly they break down.

[@joshwood3]

Congrats on the accomplishment! Great video too

[@andrewmconrad]

Was the water plentiful enough that you didn't ever feel short on water?

[@FollowBigfoot]

For the most part. I think there was only stretch of no water when I needed it for about 3-4 miles. I was very concise of where I picked water as there are many times you are getting water from areas with a lot of sediment and minerals that does a number on clogging your filter.

[@neil2809]

I have come up with a little trick . Wrap a bit of Duck Tape around your trecking pole, just in case . You never know

[@thenightowldude]

Congrats on the FKT Rory

[@daveinstlouis7296]

Freedom ! Congrats Big Foot

[@X_explorer]

Nice clip!

[@timdoran4137]

What does FKT mean?

[@FollowBigfoot]

Fastest Known Time

[@shellyskye527]

Unsupported or self supported?

[@backpacker3421]

Yeah, Leukotape is the best. Never hit trail without it.

[@Zapporah85]

Wow! Over 2lbs per day of food, that's a lot. Is that typical? I'm planning several what I'm calling "mini FKT's" and I'm trying to research into the food requirements.

[@FollowBigfoot]

You have to remember I was hiking 40-45 miles a day, so typical for that kind of caloric burn. Would be less otherwise. I ended my hike with 2 bars left, so it was about perfect

[@Zapporah85]

@@FollowBigfoot Interesting, I'd love to see more trail food videos! That's the part I'm having the most issues planning 😅

[@GregMorphis]

We're you able to eat Keto on it, what did you eat? Can you do a food video on it too? Thanks!

[@FollowBigfoot]

I’ll talk about this in another video. I got off of keto because my body didn’t respond well once I started doing 40+ mile days back to back on my training hikes. So I basically took a couple months off during the rest of my training and my FKT hike

[@GregMorphis]

@@FollowBigfoot I can imagine the diet plus exercise was a system shock. I'm doing keto myself, 55 days, but exercise is slow (5 or so mile easy to moderate weekend hikes). 30 pounds down myself. Thanks for the content! Long time subscriber under a different account - "My World In Disorder" Take care!

[@markcummings6856]

Nice. I can’t imagine 18 more lbs of food fitting in there? Must have been bulging?!?!

[@FollowBigfoot]

Actually it wasn’t so much bulging, but it was packed tight. About 80% of the volume of my pack was just food

[@peterlaughlin930]

Well done and congratulations

[@HoundsofHowgate]

Nice one good sir; well done again! 🐾👍

[@erikawoods8975]

Excellent video!!

[@Foxtrottangoabc]

What a fantastic achievement , well done ! 👍 I listen to tough girl podcasts sometimes, some amazing individuals. This might be your thing check out 55 yr old sharon gayter who talks about her ultra run length of uk , then went to school next day to teach a class ! ! Amazing what people can do . Congratulations on your goal !👍🙂

[@FollowBigfoot]

Thank you so much!

[@HM-gk3rq]

What’s the difference between unsupported and self-supported? And congrats!!

[@FollowBigfoot]

A self-supported is essentially what your hike would be if you did something like a long distance thru hike like the Appalachian Trail. A self supported hike gives you the ability to do resupplies, stay at a hotel, eat at a restaurant and do food caches. You just can’t accept help from anyone or a ride for that matter. A unsupported you basically cannot pick up anything the entire time, you can only get rid of stuff like garbage. A unsupported hike you only get what you start with, which leaves you no room for error(and a heavy pack!)

[@HM-gk3rq]

Follow Bigfoot ahhhh

[@JD-zi7ip]

@@FollowBigfoot On a self-supported hike, why wouldn't using hotels and restaurants count as receiving help from others? Could you accept trail magic food and drinks?

[@HM-gk3rq]

Why not bring normal headphones instead of AirPods that don’t need charging?

[@FollowBigfoot]

Because it’s a pain in the ass do hike with cables hanging down, attached to your phone. I’ve been using AirPods lately and is totally worth the extra ounce and normally I don’t have any issues charging it. I can’t stand not having wireless ear buds anymore

[@jjames05]

What was the total vert gain?

[@sarahlichter5249]

It's between 38,000 and 45,000ft. Depends on whether you go SOBO or NOBO

[@kennethstarr5545]

I am still shocked at how many stay with trail runners when they fall apart. It’s about matching the shoe to the trail.

[@FollowBigfoot]

They’ve worked for me quite well. With the mileage and terrain I was doing, I wasn’t expecting the shoes to be on great condition after; but did wear faster than I expected. I think it’s all about what works for you and that’s all that matters

[@kennethstarr5545]

Follow Bigfoot yes, I also look at what it’s going to cost me. My Merrill boots cover ground well. They might weigh more, which is what I think is the issue, but they will stand up to more than one section hike. I am not wearing my Moab 2s, that I use for day hiking, for my loop in glacier next year. That’s my point. What matches the trail.

[@Of_Hermits_and_Hogs]

Congrats on the FKT and thanks for taking the time to share the gear list. The only thing that shocked me a little was the 32 ibuprofen pills you (casually) say you popped (comes to more than 4 per day each lasting aprrox 6 hours). Isn't pain (especially in sports) the body's response to a problem? Are you not worried that you might risk long term damage if your body's pain receptors are essentially numbed for 7 days straight? I realize that in the US medication is treated differently but I'm always amazed how people (many also here on youtube) pop pain killers as if it were candy. Or would you say, that this is a mute point?

[@FollowBigfoot]

I never take ibuprofen normally. I believe on my 2200 mile thru hike of the AT I took a total of 8 the entire time. Doing this for a very very short time (7 days on trail) doesn’t concern me. To answer your question, absolutely, pain is the body’s response to a problem. It’s also abnormal for the body to go through what mine went through during this FKT. The level of physical stress you put your body through on something like this is going to cause pain. I was taking 4-5 tablets a day was what it worked out to.

[@GODOFROCK22]

Congrats on your hike, Bigfoot.

[@lifeafterjess8872]

That's awesome dude!

[@AJKPenguin]

Bigfoot Speedfoot Welcome back home and thank you for uploading your report. : )

[@davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker]

Love leukotape. Great video take care.

[@clarkansas6590]

Good info

[@MJGEGB]

I wouldn't go for an FKT, but having recently tried a frameless pack with no hip belt I can't imagine that having been comfortable with the starting weight including all consumables. I went stoveless and used a poncho tarp/Borah bivy and ended up under 12 lbs for an overnighter with 2 750 ml bottles and food. If I was going to take a stove like you did I'd opt for my self made Fancee Feest stove and measured out the needed fuel. With a windscreen the stove is about the same weight, but at .4 oz my fuel container is lighter. Plus I can take what I need and easily keep track of how much is left. That really sucks about the trekking poles. Part of why I loyally stick with three piece cam locking poles. Currently using a pare of Cascade Mountain Teck aluminum cork grip poles.

[@FollowBigfoot]

Thanks for commenting Matt! Good advice on the stove. The pack wasn’t very comfortable for the first 2 days or so. I did take off my Danny pack towards the end and just stuffed food in my extra side pocket

[@stanthemanhikes2965]

Congrats Bigfoot new you would do it at some point!!!!

[@DebCampos]

Congratulations!!!! Awesome accomplishment 🥳🥳🥳🥳👏👏👏👏👍👍👍😊😊😊!!

[@FollowBigfoot]

Thank you!!!

[@saminthewoods]

Not to sound like an idiot, but I'm wondering where you find the fkt video.

[@FollowBigfoot]

I haven’t released it yet. This was the first video since my hike. I’ll be doing that one next. Should have it on the channel this week

[@saminthewoods]

Follow Bigfoot aww man that’s sweet!

[@doconnor58]

Ah man, looks like some guy named Rory Anderson snaked your FKT time.

[@FollowBigfoot]

That bastard!

[@tessbrex3823]

Hey Bigfoot! Trying for the second time? This times the charm.

[@tessbrex3823]

Rats. I am subscribed. But no notification, nor did your fkt show up in my recommended. I will now track it down to watch. ( utube sucks!)

[@FollowBigfoot]

Hey Tess. This is actually my first video since I got done with my hike. I haven’t released the trail footage yet, that’s next. It will be on the channel this week.

[@kimballwiggins3976]

Killer!!

[@Hiker63]

👍👍🏿

[@Truth-Seeker75]

Altra shoes are great for about ten minutes. The backpacking community needs to be more responsible and stop endorsing a high-dollar, short life-span piece of gear that disintegrates as soon as feet hit the trail.

[@FollowBigfoot]

As a person with wide feet, I don’t have the variety of options as some do. I wear Altra’s because of the comfort I get from the toe box. I would be more concerned if my other pair of LP 4’s fell apart like these, but they didn’t and held up past the 500 mile mark which is the magical number I want to reach when I switch out runners. Although I thought they broke down quite fast, I don’t know how well others would hold up from the frequency of hits/strikes the shoes receive when you constantly slide them across stumps and roots and kick rocks. I get why people pass on these, but they work for me and have held up all but this hike. So being that this was an abnormal circumstance since I was basically walking the trail blind not being able to see the terrain for much of it, I’ll be staying with what has worked for me. I think that’s the most important part, use what works for you, and don’t use something solely because it works for someone else.

[@landrover325]

Congratulations on your achievement. Did I miss the part about bear proofing your food, hopefully it didn't stay in your tent.

[@FollowBigfoot]

I had my Opsak sitting outside of my tent.

[@olyokie]

Leave the stopwatches at home......it's like y'all can't wait to gtfo the woods.....otherwise decent list for 25 lb carry.

[@FollowBigfoot]

I didn’t bring a stop watch. If you mean my Garmin Fenix 5 GPS watch, it’s an important item for me. I look at it as a pacer, like what a marathon runner uses pace themselves, but for hiking. It keeps me in track knowing my exact mileage, speed, elevation gain/loss, calories burned etc.

[@olyokie]

@@FollowBigfoot Whatever friend, I spent somewhere around 8 hrs walking a bit more than10 miles up the the Hoh River yesterday.....roughly 300' elevation gain......