Playable Race: DEMONS - So sick design! - WC3 - Grubby

[@FollowGrubby]

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[@alexanderxyz6146]

Yes I have wondered. I saw the channel once and thought it's someone else faking or so (but watched the video on it anyways then forgot to double check the channel) Thanks

[@louiszahnow8011]

Hey Grubs, not sure if you've realised yet but the author has more of these maps up to 8 players I think. The name is scel. You can do that FFA you mentioned!

[@FollowGrubby]

Ok!

[@larry1videorater96]

@@FollowGrubby You're the reason why I sub to the Grub!!

[@alexanderxyz6146]

Nice man. But: Can you play it vs AI too? (i think it's useful long term if you do not like the balance anymore, or the maker not updating it anymore - i mean you can't expect him to for years) (AI would have to have the race pick function off, or they simply start with the race you picked for them in lobby) Also some player simply don't want to play pvp for custom maps. (as they might not be too good, or they just want to have fun with the new races like in campaign but in a more custom set up) It's easy to put it off for AI but some makers "forget".

[@paullorenz8059]

There used to be another custom map I played all the time that had almost 12 races. It had furbolgs, Naga, burning legion, spiders, and more. This takes me back!

[@seraphic4378]

That map was sick. Had dreanei too

[@kevingause9526]

Monolith ?

[@clone3_7]

@@kevingause9526 I do not think Monolith had any naga, unless it was modified. Edit: or burning legion

[@tomoyakun9294]

Was it on icecrown ?

[@mr.beanladen1469]

I played this map also with my younger brother. This makes want to play it again so bad.

[@junshum2412]

Watching Grubby discover and play these new custom maps is like browsing custom games again on WC3! Seems difficult to find some more comprehensive balance, but the ideas are really cool.

[@kraizmerentertainment2121]

Although thing he views are primitive 2000-s design maps

[@hrvojemarkulin4123]

is it a mode or??

[@waterfelon33]

There is a mod called Custom Races/Faction on Hive that is still being actively updated, each faction has a map of its own and some maps allow up to 8 players, altough I'm not sure if other players can pick different factions in a FFA style game as I've only played it with AI.

[@VigilantOoga]

I only play against A.I because I'm trash 🗑 I really hope this custom race mod works. Also I'm a noob to pc, if you see this and remember some awesome mods I would love to check some out

[@jackl597]

Honestly, it's a really cool idea, these new and intriguing things. Wc3 might not see this kind of innovation, but future creators and developers might take notice of these implications. The idea of always adding and increasing, even in an RTS, will always be welcome, even in pro play (I truly believe)

[@Johnmajong]

The more races the harder to balance

[@jackl597]

@Лифф Эриксон impossible, but it doesn't need to be perfect, it can be tweaked and new builds and races can be more powerful for a time. Like in WoW PvP, or in mobas.

[@Johnmajong]

@@jackl597 🤝

[@Newchaos190]

Correct, that is how standalone tower defense games and dota 2 was born.

[@nguyenproas]

like AOE2, new civs added constantly

[@Timeyy]

Ah making custom races like this is how I spent a lot of time in the wc3 map editor. I had a map where you could play as gnolls, centaurs and ogres :D

[@Kugrox]

you might be interested to know blizzard made a special event map where you can pick your race and play as a bunch of different forest themed races like spiders centaurs gnolls and satyrs. its pretty cool

[@SonUvSolarus69]

@@Kugrox hey whats the name of that map?

[@Cat4159]

​@@SonUvSolarus69monolith

[@DmytroBogdan]

Technically this map should playable with reforged graphics. Would be cool see a quick showcase of that

[@Dicka899]

Yeah we all wanna see demoness reforged

[@danieldragisic1251]

Stumbled across your channel about 2 weeks ago, instant sub, ordered a USB cd-rom so I can install my old wc3 / Frozen throne CD's and start playing again! Love the content and these playable races look so cool! Your channel is like McDonald's, "I'm Lovin' it!" 😁

[@randyoram8268]

As a heads up, you can't play online with the old copies at this point. You might be better off returning the CD drive and just buying Reforged if multiplayer is something that interests you

[@danieldragisic1251]

@@randyoram8268 Thanks - found that out the hard way last night, but still got in some games vs AI as I am rusty. I got crushed lol

[@slashslash92]

Who ever made this map deserves some donation

[@yaelz6043]

There are a LOT of these maps, we need some sort of list, especially the decades old ones that are forgotten but were far more comprehensive.

[@jcmarcelo192]

i agree but considering that some map breaks when warcraft is updated and unabled to be played i doubt those map will be playable unless they were remade

[@yaelz6043]

@@jcmarcelo192 I've never had such an issue. In any case I think you can export or copy paste everything relevant.

[@michelepiccolini1669]

Ultimate Battle has 25 races!

[@BeHappyTo]

@@jcmarcelo192 can just play on old version then, using vlan tools for connectivity

[@jcmarcelo192]

@@yaelz6043 i could give an example and you can test it your self decade old maps hmmm yah DOta try playing old versions of dota probably v6.30 or something maybe even older . older versions of tree tag, vampirsm,green circle,mafa etc etc, . now i don't know if reforge made those map playable again but back in the day i remember trying to run a map of dota .17 trying to see changes and it won't run and some other old custom maps . stopped playing warcraft around 2015 or 2014 and i know for a fact that those versions of warcraft can't run really old maps

[@veritusahriman9720]

Always wanted Illidan's forces and the Legion to be regular playable factions. Super cool to see!

[@simeon1998]

7:20 this man drops such a banger of a joke with a straight face... love it!!

[@bandysc]

Kudos to the map author, because it looks sick!

[@zedopikao]

kudo beast

[@Hiddenfourth]

Thank you for playing this map again like me and others requested!

[@icecrown7324]

This makes the game fun. Inclusion of more races will bring back competitive rts Centaurs furbolgs.

[@MrThede02]

Please explore this further! Thanks for the content you are very intelligent and entertaining! :) Sincerely, Nathan

[@lavrikmaksim1814]

If Happy played on that map, he'd pick Undead

[@sinamardfar1652]

I once had built a custom map for myself and imported lots of demon models for buildings and troops and also for hero abilities... those were nice days

[@chill_fridge]

Here for a Grubby heart, milord

[@Zedivh]

Overlord from now on 😁

[@Jonesybankai]

This is sick, love this type of content with unique races!

[@maxwellgamingdontstarve3862]

I really like how the demons town hall burns

[@devinoverstreet9184]

i used to play similar maps back in 2004 with nagas chaos orcs etc it was a blast when we gather in lan party

[@mareksvacha3168]

Man I spent most of my life from time to time playing Warcraft 3. For me all time the best RTS strategy ever. I always wanted WC4, that would have new races that are playable. Today, I found out, because of you, that these maps allready exist for a lot of years and U dont need WC4. So awesome. I will not be sleeping too much tonight, grinding WC3 until the morning :D

[@grizzlypaws461]

This just shows how much untapped potential this game has yet.

[@willemlooy5314]

Beautiful that the community shows initiative to make such mods in addition to their daily jobs. While there are people at Blizzard who are paid for this to come up with such ideas. What a great community. I hope Blizzard takes notes on this.

[@769_tYu]

Please more of this map. Whoever create that map are absolute genius.

[@Kav2990]

Seriously? It's like this map was made by a 10 year old

[@SheepyPanda95]

This feels extremely similar to a map with extra races too. The name of the map is Gnoll Woods xtra races.

[@kaikkk4947]

This is so great. Looks like a lot of potential to actually give new sparks to the game. However, i believe it will be hard to balance 8 races. Anyhow, please make it work, so one day we can have tournaments with these new races ❤

[@pho3nix-]

Balance is overrated

[@alexanderxyz6146]

Kaikkk, this is not just about balance... with 8 playable of course the goal is more the fun and wishes of people ever wanting such playable folks, rather than total perfect balance longterm which btw 3 is the best number for. (4 is still ok but it's the limit. Also we always see domination in wc3 still) Let me say: These tribes were often demanded after campaign, so now here we go, but instead we have people joining to complain cause they only know one thing in their life: wc3 competitive 1v1... Sorry! but your comment is like the 10-100th saying this very obvious kinda negative thing? it's unnecessary, I don't see the maker ever having labeled it as the new wc3 replacement. And "tournaments" KEKW is that your first thing in mind? Of course... There is and will always be balancing by maker but obv not forever and obv won't be sufficient unless you make all 8 sides relatively the same and thusly boring. We don't want boring and same and we don't expect the maker to do us this free service forever. Fun fact: *Actually the maker stopped 2010!!* You should know Grubby is uploading many "promising" clickbaits, (from old maps!, to titled AFK'ing but then the enemy never scouting him!) so yea this is really just for fun.

[@anon_1-n1e]

Thanks Grubby for showing us great stuff :D

[@wilmerastacio1114]

I where expecting to see a Hero succubus, like the Queen of Suffering or something like that... Though, it's not bad to see the other demons in here

[@DarthJeremy364]

honestly blizzard could have just made the naga and demons like this and that would have been better than a reskin

[@owlthemolfar4690]

Thank you for the video! I think you should check the standard factions too. Since there 5 heroes in the new ones, so I think they may add the new heroes for existing.

[@shengsterino]

I can't remember clearly but I remember there's an additional 4 races to choose after Reigns of Chaos in Frozen Throne expansion? All I could tell is the OG Blademaster is green and the new Burning Legion is red blademaster. The red one became Juggernaut model in Dota

[@wojciechwolak2832]

Pandemonium Fortress a little Diablo2 easter egg love it

[@callmekit90]

Hey, I was born before the release of Dark Omen! And I even get through it on PS1. CHAAAARGE

[@ericstaples7220]

Fun fact: I have old Blizzard catalogs that advertise WC3 as having a 5th playable race called demons. It also claimed the game would have flying heroes.

[@vvvoda]

always nice to see wc3 players discovering custom maps in 2023 :D

[@outsideropinion6561]

Nice name on that pit lord. Reference to a child's book

[@ragyngames3141]

I absolutely love this. It’s amazing 😊 if blizzard implemented this I think WC3 would be my main game again

[@arivald6677]

2:07 Incantus Deredere: Wild Tsundere appears.

[@mrsommer84]

7:20 not sure if you notice, but the hero Raider has pillage from the start (you didn't mention it)

[@michaeldutoit9913]

Love these vids, Grubby. Keep em coming ❤️💕💕

[@alexanderxyz6146]

Too bad there is no "modifications" function in wc3. Sc2 really has so many great features, that are missing in this "remastered" (reforged) *Putting this as a mod to any melee map would be extremely great.* Not only like for FFA or bigger team maps, but also if you think the balance isn't too great, (longterm usage of map) it can still be great fun on bigger maps with a friend(s) vs (many) computers, like 3v6 AI or so. (AI of course should auto pick their default race - or the feature is off for them = they start as usual) | *Really sick map, thanks for testing* / highlighting I wouldn't have known about it. | PS: for the newbs: Melee means standard-versus map (the ones that are or were in ladder or are like it)

[@KaledYT]

I hope there will be a map with all the races. Naga, high elf, fell orcs, corrupted night elves, Demons, forest creeps, skeleton race.

[@joefebri3236]

Ah Dark Omen, I remember that games. I beat it many times. It's like imperial steam tank

[@stanislavkharkiv6813]

Zemli Boga (God’s land) is the best custom map with a lot of playable races

[@froggy3496]

i remember spending hours and hours making a map where you could choose more races, only to realize balancing races is not an easy job and my own custom races were either stupidly OP or useless lmao

[@andrewnelson3823]

Shadow Demon is based off of Archimonde's model while Lycanthrope is based off of Kil'jaden

[@dereksommer9582]

Wow, dark omen, lovely reference

[@giorgichkhetia9756]

Think you for content ❤ This parts It's very interesting.

[@madden12]

3:08 he makes same sound as the hero haha

[@samuelmontenegroserniotti7146]

Archimonde is used to portray Eredar, Shadow Demon.

[@ЛазарТасев]

I want to mention demon race (The Burning Legion) lorewise is a race of different worlds, altought infernals, void walkers, fel guard, doom guard are acceptable, but satyr is a night elf just mutated from demon blood, but they almsot never served the Burning Legion, they follow Xavius ruled by old gods, and also dragonspawn is a humanoid morphed into dragon which is from Azeroth and is againt Burning Legion, this kind of race and map needs an big upgrade.

[@hellothere9167]

I remember I would make banshees in undead and possess nagas to build their structures 😂

[@scornfis640]

Southwestern USA is Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Oklahoma.

[@oldskilla6797]

In DOTA 1 is a Lycan. Shadow Demon is a Gnoll.

[@SonUvSolarus69]

hey grubbs is there any way to choose a custom race for the other player if your playing against a bot?

[@slashslash92]

This is epic! We need more more more

[@jirisvoboda2557]

hi, this map only reacts after launching for a while then pops up - Continue, Quit campaing - even if I choose any race, do you know what could be wrong? thank you for answer.

[@bultvidxxxix9973]

I'd like to see that satyr creep (without cheats). Permanent invisibility sounds totally op.

[@HnHSaitou]

Would've loved to see those races in wc3 but yeah, we got Reforged ^^

[@jeraldpanal6591]

I don't like how the heroes don't have the "hero's glow" on them. You can't easily distinguish them from the crowd.

[@frostykeys4469]

I laughed pretty hard at the unrarmored, have to unzip them joke😂

[@PochaPoko]

And the strenghft 😂😂😂

[@Feranorr2526]

I remember a hero from DotA 1 that used the Eredar model and had a "Finger of Death" ability. One time an opponent, who had the color brown, was trying to gank me using that hero, and my friend said on Ventrilo: "Careful, brown is gonna finger you from behind." Never going to forget that.

[@wojciechwolak2832]

You mean Lion with orc warlock model i guess

[@payaso216]

The only heroes that uses the "Eredar Warlock" model are Lycan with Kiljaden model and Shadow Demon uses Archimonde.

[@payaso216]

Considering that neither of them uses the "Finger of Death ability," he might he have used a Dagon on you? I mean People used to buy Dagon on Lion in the old WC3 DotA because it has the same effect as his ultimate, and Zeus with Maelstrom because, well, lighting. People were so naive back then, it's so funny.

[@Feranorr2526]

@@wojciechwolak2832 Could have been an older version of DotA (not Allstars). IIRC the original WC3 Archimonde also had Finger of Death.

[@Feranorr2526]

@@payaso216 I think it wasn't DotA Allstars. It was an older version that also had a Dreadlord that could make dozens of mini-Dreadlords.

[@Niwona112]

15:59 I'm pretty sure most of the voice lines are references?

[@Quantumwolf45]

I like how modders are doing what Blizzard should have done 20 years ago.

[@alex_ho]

Okay so, call me crazy but I vividly remember there being another Warcraft 3 "expansion" called the Burning Legion or something It had the image of something that looked like a Lich on the cover and it had a varient race for all 4 races through a menu that pops up during initialization. So if you go Human, you get the option to pick High Elf, go Orc and you get Fel Orcs, go Night Elf and you get Creeps, and go Undead and you get Burning Legion. I don't remember much from when I played it, but what I do remember is that its systems are way better than this, the worker for the BL for instance was a orc warlock and had to summon buildings, or that the Creeps race had no Heroes, only lvl 10 Creeps

[@MrEnfuze]

"Awh the voices.. Ohh the voices..." 11:34 Taken out of context can be mistaken that Grubby needs to go to a mental ward

[@I21oIoIl3]

wc3 editor is amazing.

[@kingcain6472]

sometimes I imagine about a different Timeline in which Blizzard never made WoW instead jumped right to Warcraft 4

[@LlKEBUTT0N]

More of this.. where can I see the other vids of these???

[@alexcottrell5876]

How do I download the additional campeins people have made for this game?

[@seiman1111]

Haha Grubby played dark omen, one of the best games ever!

[@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS]

They should make it so the building flamestrike animation actually does damage.

[@Hyoumu1]

Can you win with a No Retreat, No Surrender philosophy? Don't run away when you unit is about to die. Run forward and let him attack the enemy base, every point of damage counts!

[@LukeD02]

I understand it may not be your cup of tea, but I'd love to see you try some custom campaigns maybe! There's so many good ones out there with a bunch of custom models and some of them even have voice acting!

[@sosaukr6666]

Do you know if this map and those campaigns work with reforged?

[@LukeD02]

@@sosaukr6666 I dont know about this map, but some campaigns are playable or even designed to play with reforged gfx.

[@shivrajshah1155]

Where to find these many custom campaigns?? I only have Exodus of the Horde.. please advice!

[@kaczka3917]

Hi where I can download this new rese . Thanks

[@treewisps4085]

has Grubby never played a custom game? he acts so surprised with all this stuff lol

[@williamfalck4882]

Really neat idea but the roster units could have been improved greatly. Lava creature? Dragonspawns? Is this a demon faction or Legion TD? Felhounds as base unit, Felguard as a heavier option, Succubus as ranged etc would have made a lot more sense.

[@sosaukr6666]

Will this map work for wc3 reforged ?

[@rubikquitous8482]

I wanna see you spam hellhounds and use that aoe 100 dmg razerspines, that would be a cool strat

[@budrothefox3666]

Super cool concept. I used to play all kinds of custom games and custom maps in wc3 back in the day. Footies was one of my favs. My bro always enjoyed Tower defenses which became the most popular. We also tried a different game that was awesome made by the one and only tda.icefrog The creator of dota. He was in the lobby when we loaded in and we talked to him and he was super nice and chill. Very positive and humble guy. The game he made was similar to dota but with a much different aesthetic and lots of different mechanics. It was awesome.

[@beafraidofinsectattack]

Grubby! Please try out Warhammer Eternal Strife, a map from hive based on warhammer fantasy battle. It has numerous custom factions with four+ subfactions each. It has a campaign, 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 1v1v1v1 maps. I hope you likes it!! ✨

[@AlbertArthot]

How can I play that?I only have 4 races like Neightelf,Orc,Human and Undead.Can you help me?

[@Ljngstrm]

It's like an extra effort was made to make a funny spelling mistake into at least one ability per unit and structure... Strenght. Brolt. Deceipt.

[@MalcomMalediction]

plz do more videos like these where u play other unique races

[@ToraxReborn]

Blizzard needs to make this map official and bring the races into the mix

[@eugenb9017]

Right. And who will make sure they are balanced? After more than 20 years it's not yet 100% balanced. And only 4 races... Each new race added would exponentially increase the unbalance risk, because there will be so many new matchups.

[@cloudypac]

@@eugenb9017 Lol are you really worried about it being balanced? First worry about Blizzard actually even considering it which they absolutely won't

[@eugenb9017]

@@cloudypac Of course they won't, but balance is ONE of the reason. Just imagine trying to balance 8 more races.

[@ToraxReborn]

@@eugenb9017 does it need to be? If it is unbalanced like you are saying

[@gqinfinity3847]

Do the orignal races have extra heroes and content. Think would be pretty cool if they also had a fresshen up.

[@H25Invicta]

This map has some cool ideas but its kind of slapdash in execution.

[@NicolasCota-cw3zb]

Could you share the link to this map sir? I appreciate it.

[@jonathanshelton5577]

How do you play this version

[@sitoconfuzee8381]

cool stuff!

[@MichaelReyk]

is this compatible with quen ching mod??? at least demons one?

[@jurajchobot]

How is this reforged though? It looks the same as I remember it playing in school on old IBM computers.

[@BARBOSSA_]

That's no reforge!

[@lazydave9761]

I looked up 'Incantus' and 'Decedare' - it could mean 'death charm' or 'death spell'.

[@LaPtaVerdad]

Somehow a lost game still recieves love While the other games with player bases the size of a continent are either forgotten or just plainly downgraded

[@mariuszbarczynski9452]

imagine demoness mass stun and wolf raider as main hero :D