Interesting contrast, Neo was calling the game over for a long time and was ultimately incredulous seeing Lyn lose this game after he killed Happy's heroes, but Grubby meanwhile commented on how much Lyn lost while chasing Happy's heroes and was lost afterwards with such a DPS deficit from all the dead wind riders and never seemed to think Lyn in a particularly winning position. Warcraft games truly are tough to read.
@defmore50995 ай бұрын
OR grubby is pro and neo is .. nicely put; not very good at the game
@xtremelemon86125 ай бұрын
the way Neo reads fights during live commentaries is def not the best
@P.sherman455 ай бұрын
when the last fight accured, both main bases were empty and happy had 38 pop vs 61. and yet happy won that fight and the game
@preekja5 ай бұрын
Sorry but I think it should be mentioned also that Grubby knows it's a Bo3 and he received 3 game-files from Neo for 3 games. So he knows it goes into Game 3. So Happy had to win this. Watching this live and seeing 38 pop Happy vs 61 pop Lyn I think it's way harder to predict than KNOWING it goes into game 3. No intention to hate on Grubby, his game sense and the way he explains decision making is insane - however, he knew it's going into Game 3 while Neo, watching this live, had no way of knowing how this match turns out! ;)
@dark30315 ай бұрын
I think the main turning point was the chasing of Lich and attempt to try and kill Alchemist at the shop around 18:30. UD lost almost everything, but at the same time Orc also handed a bunch of exp to the Alchemist. With Alchemist at level 5, Orc army couldn't deal with him anymore.
@stonemove42075 ай бұрын
Yo Grubby I love watching you since 2005 but more recently I love to watch the replays with you like this ! Its very nice and entertaining !! keep em coming :)
@Cat41595 ай бұрын
I like hearing grubbys voice when i shower, i dont even watch the gameplay i just hear grubby talk.
@andreatombesi24585 ай бұрын
I like hearing grubbys voice when i poop, i dont even watch the gameplay i just hear grubby talk.
@GaiasWunderkind5 ай бұрын
I like hearing Grubbys voice when i go groceries shopping, i dont even watch the gameplay i just hear grubby talk.
@blank-og3jh5 ай бұрын
Curently doing that and I confirm 👍💩@@andreatombesi2458
@Sage_le_Ace5 ай бұрын
grub podcast
@Prawnsly5 ай бұрын
I like hearing Grubby's voice when I'm in bed with the wi- actually wait nevermind
@NewbInLife5 ай бұрын
Didn't know about the obsidian statue trick, I'll definitely use it in one day in campaign.
@draheim905 ай бұрын
Ah man that’s hilarious that when you were talking about pronouncing English words from games I immediately thought back to how much I (as a native English speaker) butchered “fatigue” when I was young (before your chat asked). I pronounced it “fat-i-gooth” which obviously makes no sense. I also didn’t know what it meant for a limb to fall asleep although I had heard the term. So one day when I was a doctor, probably like 8-9 years old, I told them I was concerned because I sometimes had this weird and uncomfortable feeling in my leg or arm that was tingly. It took her a while to realize what I was talking about and she too seemed very concerned for a while. Worst part is she never explained it she just told me it’s nothing to worry about and so I still had to figure it out for myself eventually. Oh and when I was in high school we were playing trivia and one of the questions was to list as many top-10 most populated capital cities in the world. Having never heard it pronounced, I answered “see-ole” for Seoul and my (Korean) teacher was angry in disbelief, he thought I was intentionally mispronouncing it or something.
@alexkay60295 ай бұрын
I can totally relate to that excursion at the beginning. To this day there exist a plethora of words that I've only ever experienced in writing, never heard spoken, so their pronounciation eludes me.
@kassokilleri2ff5 ай бұрын
Just Google the word and click the sound button and it will say the word for you.
@oscarl.35635 ай бұрын
Tragic results to lose with an expansion against a wiped out UD army.
@6184aabbcdefg5 ай бұрын
UD is the best endgame race, too good with those Heros.
@Biobin1235 ай бұрын
You wipe ud army ud heroes you are up in base up in workers up in upgrades. Just shows how much imbalance is orc should have lost faster! Only those advantages should never be close game for ud ! Coil/nova= gg :)
@zachariastsampasidis88805 ай бұрын
I think lyn lost too many wind riders after only alchemist remained
@oscarl.35635 ай бұрын
@@zachariastsampasidis8880 He also could have intercepted Happy at the tavern, or had a lounge up and running sooner. Still I hate losing this way against UD, though I haven't played in 15 years...
@zachariastsampasidis88805 ай бұрын
@@oscarl.3563 true, lounge could/should have been up sooner as well. Maybe even built near the tavern instead of base but that's maybe too aggressive.
@ambion195 ай бұрын
I don't know if Lyn could have defended the tavern, but not doing so definitely cost him the game. There was never going to be a second, critical-er mass of wyverns that could win after that
@cello19935 ай бұрын
why not? couldn't he wait longer til wyverns pile up, since he has an expo, isn't time on his side?
@JustinHampton-l5j5 ай бұрын
Look where the final fight happened, thats exactly what hes doing. If he falls back there, all the gold peons die and its even worse. @cello1993
@P.sherman455 ай бұрын
when the last fight accured, both main bases were empty and happy had 38 pop vs 61. and yet happy won that fight
@WhoKnowsWhatTheirDoing5 ай бұрын
Your knowledge of the game is incredible. I suppose that's what 20+ years of playing this game helps with 😆 If there is a time to beat Happy, now looks good
@Cruziksasd2235 ай бұрын
feels illegal to be this early
@simeontodorov86575 ай бұрын
Not a warcraft player but doesent UD heroes seem so OP late game? Same could be said for orc early game?
@twassell255 ай бұрын
Yeah, und is the strongest race in the game by far, and this matchup in particular isn't balanced.
@xytzxytz5 ай бұрын
The sleeping leg story was super XD
@FilthyGoose5 ай бұрын
13:50 Grubby says “spesisifity”
@Rudotan5 ай бұрын
Grubby вот такая идея для обновления. Рабов орков можно было переобучать на всадников или шаманов . Тем самым в начале игры можно строить много рабочих потом со скидкой в 75 золота обучить его
@ТотсамыйКок5 ай бұрын
dont worry dude,my first english words was "pls 100gold" playing undead late in 2005 random team or how it was called back then in ladder
@kurzackd5 ай бұрын
honestly, as exciting as this game was, as well as how adrenaline-inducing its fights were, *I honestly think that BOTH players played reaaaaly sub-par* compared to what we're used to by them. Just a few examples: 15:50 -- Happy takes down Lyn's shop, and *Lyn takes **_FOREVER_** to start rebuilding it...* ... Rather than *IMMEDIATELY.* . This all results in him being short of supplies later on. Had he started rebuiling INSTANTLY, he would have had a shop / items ready at later crucial points of the game, and would have easily won. 16:09 -- Fight starts and Lyn's flying units are all conveniently stacked up, just *BEGGING to be Nova'd !!* However, Happy delays mana usage on his heroes for what seems like FOREVER, and doesn't Nova until 16:19 -- at a time when Lyn's flyers are *NO LONGER clumped up !! :O* 16:46 -- Fight ends, and Happy's heroes are TOO FULL of mana, rather than completely empty as is expected from such a long fight (37 seconds). Seriously -- Lich has enough for at least one Nova, whereas DK has only used 1 or 2 coils for the entire duration of the fight... *POOR !!* 19:04 -- Happy should have TP'd *IMMEDIATELY* after acquiring the item on his Alch. *INSTEAD, he stayed for TOO LONG, thus ensuring the following events:* Losing 1 statue, 1 destroyer, _ALMOST_ a *2nd* destroyer *AND* losing ton of HP on his hero that otherwise could have been preserved !! 19:45 -- A viewer asks a *VERY APPROPRIATE QUESTION* , which G strangely dismisses in his commentary: *Why didn't Lyn camp the tavern ??* It's clear that Happy CANNOT contest it at all !! Given how hurt his hero and units are, whereas Lyns' are healthy !! *IN CONCLUSION:* Great game... *POOR plays !! >=(* .
@bfontaine5665 ай бұрын
One thing I didn't understand in the end, why didn't Lyn tempo a bit more , he had an expo , the undead didn't , he could have waited a bit more before engaging , even if it meant that he lost his expo, and have 2-3 more units for the last fight?
@alexeybelov89715 ай бұрын
In Russia in long ago of 1997 we also pronounced the same "svord" and "knait" 😁
@WhenYouGoMadd5 ай бұрын
Orc units are either ridiculously tanky or they are made of paper. Sure, Taurens have a lot of HP and Armor, but they cant ever hit anything, and just get kited around and slowed. And sure, Wind Riders do a lot of damage and have a DOT, but they die so easily it's almost impossible for them to survive long enough to get more than 1-3 attacks off.
@WhenYouGoMadd5 ай бұрын
And Orc doesn't have the resources or macro features to heal their units back up.
@twassell255 ай бұрын
Orc have to pay hundreds of gold to heal and regen mana.
@GaiasWunderkind5 ай бұрын
@@WhenYouGoMadd Orcs have arguably the best healing in game tho, with healing waves and healing totems.
@Igorsov5 ай бұрын
@@GaiasWunderkindIt’s obviously the Healing Wave is the best healing spell in the game. Shadow Hunter is the best hero in the game according to Happy.
@WhenYouGoMadd5 ай бұрын
Healing in combat sucks. I would rather have a 2nd Chain Lightning over Healing Wave.
@eliashaddad86315 ай бұрын
Hi grubby at that voodoo lounge happy actually killed it intentionally earlier before that fight and i thought it was to deny bat riders but also mentioned how clarity would've been so important for lyn
@Tommyum5 ай бұрын
Spoke and delivered thank you Mr sir 👌🏼👌🏼
@radiodare5 ай бұрын
I still can't believe those D tier units last game... Amazing wyverns
@GrandMaMaYT5 ай бұрын
yo grubs, do you think an rts where 2 players control 1 faction fun? (2 player 1 camp) like how player A is a support (build/ do eco stuff) then player B do creeping and scouting or control the hero. ofcourse they share controls on units
@Anchang305 ай бұрын
I thought it was mandatory to have an altar in order to buy/rebuy from the tavern. Was it always like this or patched recently ?
@bryansweeney30775 ай бұрын
It's mandatory for hiring a tavern hero in the first place, but not for reviving a hero there. As far as I know, it's always been that way
@Milotus.5 ай бұрын
What would happen, If Happy sells everything and Towerrush Lyn with mass Frost armored Lich Skellis, maybe Fiends and ziggus? 1 fs and 2 burrows couldnt hold that?
@zachariastsampasidis88805 ай бұрын
Curious about this: if happy scouted it early, couldn't he actually do a successful ghoul rush? You seem to talk about finding it reactively imo. And is wind rider dps that important to reduce compared to hero focus from the ud side? Shouldn't double coil nova be enough generally?
@Asgardinho5 ай бұрын
and that's why lyn now camp the tavern after killing the UD heroes, this was another win for the wyvern strat
@Hell_O75 ай бұрын
10:22 I don't think I ever heard this "under attack" voice, is this something new in Reforged?
@JustinHampton-l5j5 ай бұрын
Close game, expo didn't have enough time to swing a w. Wyvs just get dumpstered by that hero combo, and all were high level. Remember, orc is selling most/all of his items to get more wyvs, so when the wyvern count drops to 4 or less the game is basically over
@twassell255 ай бұрын
Against elf, level 4 SH is prob the most threatening
@attention_shopping5 ай бұрын
gg. do we think after 1st fight lyn just masses towers at his expo would work?
@JustinHampton-l5j5 ай бұрын
Probably not. Towering up gives up all map control allowing ud to expand, then the next fight is even worse
@ThePainOfSilenc5 ай бұрын
Of course I’m subbed.
@froggy34965 ай бұрын
man I learned english the same way. I also did pronounce k-night, and some other stuff he mentioned like him lol.
@damiancarlo38445 ай бұрын
the miscelanious one was special
@HighLanderPonyYT5 ай бұрын
This makes me want to play HU or NE only and spam mana draining units to make the opp heroes into mere "big minions". lol
@Trompok135 ай бұрын
option 5 grubby is wrong about his tier lists xD
@ryanlee53365 ай бұрын
How is alchemist attacking air with no orb?
@ruslan77825 ай бұрын
Why didnt Lyn start playing around his expansion and just wait, build towers?
@georgplatzer82135 ай бұрын
Omg i said Fatigue the exact same way as you :D Fatigew
@cgoldbac5 ай бұрын
Fatiguey xD
@georgplatzer82135 ай бұрын
@@cgoldbac 🤣🤣🤣
@justinhowe38785 ай бұрын
crazy game.
@jes131235 ай бұрын
0:40 lol my guildmates were laughing at me for pronouncing the "g" in gnome
@renzocoppola46645 ай бұрын
acid bomb + skull = isnt like -8 armor? these WR were very squishy
@drJhowPhd5 ай бұрын
when tier list ?
@firelizard965 ай бұрын
How do you lose after winning 2 fights and having an expo up for 7 minutes? I don't understand.
@HighLanderPonyYT5 ай бұрын
Using D tier units. Kappa
@lucasdelcanto10485 ай бұрын
hola como puedo descargar el juego?
@SpaghettiNoob4 ай бұрын
2:20 you should have micro'd your leg better Grubby 😂
@jesuseinstein47065 ай бұрын
Did you missexplained or do you really mean level 4 is a high level hero? When a Level 4 is high, what is than a level 10?
@justiniani.45015 ай бұрын
Level 10 is almost never seen in matches. In fact, level 6 heroes are already quite rare, meaning if you get your hero up to level 4, they're basically considered high level.
@jesuseinstein47065 ай бұрын
@@justiniani.4501 If you play just single hero Level 10 is not that uncommon and Level 6 is definitely not rare. Depends totally if you play single or tripple hero, with triple hero I would be on your side, for single hero not.
@FollowGrubby5 ай бұрын
Level 4 is high but not uncommon. Level 6 is rare, level 8 is virtually unheard of. Level 10 is almost meme-levels of rarity
@Mene05 ай бұрын
1:10 you never answered what's your favorite dessert!
@deadstones15 ай бұрын
my dad and I used to pronounce guile like "goolie"
@Ken-fw7ue5 ай бұрын
GG
@Darkness_71935 ай бұрын
-9 armor from acid bomb and sphere just shred 24 limits of wind riders :/
@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes99405 ай бұрын
Why does undead upgrade armor and orc upgrade attack damage?
@Igorsov5 ай бұрын
UD units are very fragile therefore they depend on armor a lot in order to survive and get a coil in time or to escape. Orc’s army has a higher DPS and attack upgrades counters defense upgrades. Plus, Orc has the Shadow Hunter with a superior wave healing.
@samuelpons13965 ай бұрын
No the reason for UD air armor upgrades is that they reduce the damage from bat rider explosion. Orc gets attack upgrades because a lot of damage that wind riders take is from spells (Frost Nova and Acid Bomb) so armor upgrades don't reduce this damage. Wind Riders also have low health and high damage so benefit more from attack up grades than armor upgrades.
@FollowGrubby5 ай бұрын
- From a unit's perspective of trying to stay alive: an armor upgrade gives 2 armor. Two points of armor gives 12% bonus EHP. Each next 2 points of armor also increase the EHP by 12% of the base HP of a unit. - The higher an opponent's attacking physical damage is, the more armor is valuable! Wyverns are glass cannons that excel in high damage but have low survivability. They'll die soon anyway; he's trying to make sure his destroyers live long enough to help his Heroes to kill the Wyvs. Additionally, a source of non-scaling damage here is Batriders' unstable concoction. It is reduced by Physical Armor, which allows a 0/3 Garg to survive 1 batrider explosion, if nothing else hits the Garg. It also makes Destroyers survive 2 bat impacts, whereas an unupgraded Destroyer dies to 2 bats.
@nightyonetwothree5 ай бұрын
@@FollowGrubby i find 3 armor upgrades on gargs just to die to chainlightning/random attack is too expensive. Same for destroyers. 1 bat splash nearby - now destroyer die to same 2 direct bats hits. Also, as gargs and destroyers already have 3 natural armor, +6 from +3 upgrades will increase their ehp not by 36% but by 30.5%; While for wyverns (and other zero natural armor units) vs undead orb (we'll assume in result as -4 natural armor)) => +3 armor upgrades will increase their durability by (1,12 / (1/1,24)) = by +38.88%.
@ahmadzone34455 ай бұрын
Lol part 2 after day i feel i warch one piece not warcarft
@ahmadzone34455 ай бұрын
Wheres part 3 ,??
@Igorsov5 ай бұрын
Tomorrow. It’s obvious…Isn’t it?
@ivand30025 ай бұрын
true wc3 player will always say wyverns
@thelastmoonchaser5 ай бұрын
what is elo?
@HighLanderPonyYT5 ай бұрын
A rating system named after Árpád Élő (hence the name Elo). More on Google and Wikipedia.
@yuukiritotrinh65675 ай бұрын
BC and it will turn from yellow, blue to white
@tandy3905 ай бұрын
Yay
@mohastgridlock5 ай бұрын
Try not to poop for so long.
@Killcycle5 ай бұрын
Thinks like this, with the BC "Bug" to gain more health and mana always in Blizzard Games, Brake the game for normal non professionell gamers, when you play against good players and should be fixed, imo...😮
@SanityDrop5 ай бұрын
forsen
@jacobfastpro5 ай бұрын
hi
@Dekaide445 ай бұрын
To be fair, Americans dont know how to pronounce Guile either.
@fluteprogressions92425 ай бұрын
First!! Am I first??
@em.pee.a37045 ай бұрын
you were first 5 mins ago, so that means I'm first now! hehe
@papichingobling60215 ай бұрын
@@em.pee.a3704wtf how u reply before he commented?