Football Card Collecting and Investing 101 (2022) SCIU Ep. 9

Today, Geoff goes through Football Card Collecting and Investing and breaks down the manufacturers, sets and key players that you may want to consider investing in.
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[@bgm3865]

Best advice i could give is don't invest!! collect cards for the fun of it. I've been in the card business since 1989 and i just collect and have fun with it. Don't invest or you could end up like them Andrew Luck investing guys who are probably in a van down by the river somewhere.

[@jferg8956]

Nope not gonna listen.

[@VictorLopez-ff1mf]

For real, I get to be able to collect my favorite vintage football players from yesteryear. Especially my favorite running backs and wide receivers, since their prices are a lot more cheaper than quarterbacks from back in the day.

[@L3GENDZLuLKeK]

Lmao in a van down by the river 😂 rip

[@ericramirez5647]

Fr I just want to collect Raiders cards . I don't want to scalp em 🤓

[@mean1639]

Fr i just think signature cards are so cool. I just got a signed jaxon dart cart out a $12 topps college pack and it just made my whole week even tho its worth nothing

[@brandoc04]

Thank you for being honest! A large part of me wanted to get into football collecting for both investing and fun. Now I know for me, buying a couple slabs of players I enjoy and love watching grow probably is more my speed.

[@Seahawks_12thman]

Thank you sir, I have my pen in my hand writing down notes I’m a “rookie” at knowing what cards are what.. first time collecting as a hobby/fun! Keep up the great work!!!

[@IamColt13]

Fantastic video! Ive been wanting to be better versed in the football card world for awhile but have struggled to find a good resource to build a foundation on! Well I found it here! Thank you for taking the time to make such an informative video!

[@ChoijjaTrading]

Just getting into this after collecting Pokemon for quite some time. There is so much to learn here. Starting with all that variations from Prizm and what color of parallels to Select to Donruss or whatever lol. Thanks for sharing all this info, really nice style of explaining.

[@alexlopez1478]

Always appreciate your footage

[@user-pp8ly2wn6t]

I like your video presentation. It is informative too, at the same time. Thanks a lot for your guidance!

[@charlietran5406]

I just happen to watch this video and you just featured my card in this video. It’s the Immaculate Justin Herbert at 22:06. So awesome! 😊

[@tmo8284]

The best episode ever Geoff. 🏈

[@billyhester2507]

Excellent info! Thank you much!!

[@cleanzypinkney3231]

Good episode, really enjoyed it. I've been a little more selective in buying football cards though......highly speculative. I lost a ton of $$$$ on the 2015 football class.

[@bryancook3564]

Another awesome video thanks!!

[@Matt-vh9vs]

The good news is that if you like players other than the QB you can get them for a great price!! I got a Bruce Smith RC for 5 $ ! 🤠

[@oopsisolditagain4191]

Thanks for all the help. Your videos got me back into the hobby and I'm going to try my hand at investing. Go gators

[@manivang9792]

The best channel in my eyes

[@mtbjd3046]

I love this. So good.

[@TheSpud1129]

Geoff - as a UF Alum...we salute you! Stay positive, test negative! A lot of insight. Card prices have sky-rocketed in the last 5 years. What advice do you give for RC and RY year cards? Should you focus only on one versus the other? Thanks in advance for your reply, and really enjoy your commentary and knowledge.

[@masterschiele4265]

Great video very informative!

[@jbutsch2301]

How is this channel not 100x larger than it is?!

[@ryanginger1953]

I’m a big fan of your channel and what you do for the community, however I think that being more honest about what’s going on in the hobby can be helpful as well. If you only talk about the good things it can be misleading, you rarely talk about how much things have declined or the last news in the hobby. People taking psa’s at card shows, the controversial Logan Paul situation since it was certified by the bball exchange which you have endorsed in the past. Instead you make videos of how well vintage cards are doing instead of modern, you handpick 5 cards going up instead of the 5000 that went down. I think that talking about this can be learning lessons as well if your teaching about the hobby

[@888strummer]

Modern is dropping and vintage is going up or holding

[@Slb5988]

bro I 100% agree with you but these contact creators are about themselves and building a brand they don’t talk about the bad the only true people that do that are “collectors” not investors and have been around the hobby for 20+ years not these I collected as a kid now I’m back

[@MysticalMixes]

Thank you!!

[@lawrencelerat2847]

Good information - would like to see a hockey video from yourself and some tips to what cards should be invested in. Canada has a big market in that card industry.

[@jswerve7]

Have an RG3 rookie card and I was so happy when I pulled it just for his career to go downhill

[@joemartella9591]

Great content 🏈🔥🔥🏈

[@williamdzialak9328]

Seems like we put more importance on names like PSA and BGS instead of the card itself, which doesn't sound right to me. Are we collecting our favorite teams/players, or are we collecting slabs with a brand name? I know that's a touchy topic for collectors, but if a card's worth is dependent upon getting a grade of 8 or higher from a specific company, then that seems like a flawed system. I know some cards, for example Justin Herbert's RPA /99 from NT still has value, but the prices of 10's and 9's across companies varies too much. A PSA and BGS 10 could be 1.5-2x the value of an SGC card, but why? If Fanatics decided to put out a set with ONLY graded cards graded by Fanatics themselves, then what would the hobby do? Would they break those open and get them re-graded to try to get a higher profit just because it doesn't say PSA or BGS? I guess my issue isn't with grading, but with people's biases and overreliance on specific companies. Yes, it makes sense to prefer Panini over Leaf because of licensing and quality, but it doesn't make sense to idolize grading companies when they all perform the same tasks and give you the same result (an encased card within a slab that has a custom information sticker and a determined grade). Being around longer means nothing, as long as the quality is there. Ignoring prices being cheaper, I'm guessing that's why some collector's have used SGC, GMA, CSG, etc. Because the quality and guarantees still exist.

[@jangoshepherd4575]

Thank you so much for all the help and info you give out. I’ve been watching this channel non stop. Please do a hockey 101. I’m very new to the hobby and the info for hockey cards is a little harder to find. But you could even save this for a video during the sports off season but please do one nonetheless. Thank you so much

[@smashdragon182]

Hockey's probably the easiest...Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, and Howe for retired players. Crosby and Ovechkin for modern. McDavid for modern as well if you want to add more risk to your speculation. Between the 60s and 80s you have Topps and O-Pee-Chee as the main card manufactures (same card - Topps released in USA and OPC in Canada). OPC is more sought after. Post 80s Upper Deck was and is still the main manufacturer. This is just a very high level overview

[@mikehocking4836]

Love his videos awesome

[@larryhabben7327]

Very good info

[@bbokariontop]

Good stuff

[@johnpowell5538]

Jamal Lewis cards were the most valuable of the 2000 Bowman set. I bought 5 boxes for those cards. Ended up with 10 Tom Brady rookies because of it. I sold most of them for $45 on eBay after he won his first super bowl unfortunately. And I was like who is Tom Brady?

[@Jigglingjerry]

😭

[@drew1693]

I feel ya man, I sold over a dozen Jerry Rice rookies when they were a couple years old. I know at least one of them had to be a 10.

[@ayeitskq]

Geoff looks like the chameleon from that Ringo movie

[@arynnelson371]

Haters are out in full force. Keep giving us this good content

[@ynohtnazehcnas91]

Jerry Rice won two with Montana and one with Young, Montana has 4 and Rice has 3.

[@carochio8639]

Can you guys do a video on cash, trade, comps and etc. I pickup a lot, but it would be great to get a general industry average

[@talesofthecrypt-o4980]

1989 score football was never junk wax.. never over produced. Somone go find a box unopened..and compare vs other box qtys

[@tyleraustin1265]

Josh Allen is also a great investment

[@Weezy10580]

Allen could be the best investment. Burrow, injuries. Mahomes, peaked. Herbert, Chargers. Im going with Allen, a cannon for an arm who can run

[@u2bcr8tr]

@@Weezy10580and he’s big as well 6’ 4” 250. I’m gonna see what I can afford to buy from his 2018 rookie year. I’m also gonna grab what I can of Keon Coleman. I really like his personality and I really hope he does well at WR. At 6’ 4” / 215 lbs and with a 38” vertical and great tracking skills. He should become a red zone machine for TD’s with the Bills.

[@sethbriars2042]

Brady cards rookie, short print, or numbered will still hold for many years right? Is that the best investment?

[@saulgoodman2133]

The sports card investor app trending list is full of low end overpopulated base, I think it sends the wrong message to newer members of the hobby as we all know and preach “don’t buy base and high pop cards” which I believe to be very true. Base serves it’s role but is likely not the greatest sports card investment choice. Collectors want to see trending cards of parallels and higher end sets on there.

[@shuchangyht618]

Nice video !!very engage from beginning to end . Nevertheless business and investment are the easiest way to make money irrespective of which party make it to the oval office.

[@jaeholee2269]

You’re right, trading now should be in every wise individual’s list in some months time you will be ecstatic with the decision you made today.

[@annahreuben129]

@Brenda Nicholas That won't bother you if you trade with a professional like Mr Winfred Donald

[@evemaddie2026]

I heard that his strategies are really good

[@alexandreleo5074]

@@evemaddie2026 Yeah, My first investment with Mr Winfred Donald earned me profit of over $27,530 US dollars, and ever since then he has been delivering

[@abubakar_Abson]

@Walter Keith I know him, due to my work I don't have time for trading he manages my account and has made a lot of profits for me. I can now boost I make $18,400 weekly.

[@VikingsFan-iu5kq]

I believe buy the G.O.AT's Tom Brady Rc Michael Jordan and past Hall Famers are safe all current players can been very risky because of injuries .

[@rickellsmore8731]

Smart collector/investor 👍. Vintage football is undervalued IMO

[@Weezy10580]

Agreed. But they have peaked or close to peaked

[@toppsfanatic2310]

When the 2021 panini absolute football hobby boxes came out I would buy 2 every weekend for retail price an some times more when I could afford it I got almost 30 still sealed never opened any of them but 1 an got a gold kaboom lawrence I think that was a good investment

[@rivory13]

So you have 30 hobby boxes of this year's absolute football

[@toppsfanatic2310]

@@rivory13 not exactly 30 I have 26 of them I buy 2 at least about every weekend when I can

[@rivory13]

@@toppsfanatic2310 that's friggin awesome hobby is the way to go and hitting a gold kaboom must have felt sweet most I hit was a Barry Sanders Kaboom out of a fat pack lol but ur LCS must love you tho do you get good prices on hobby boxes?

[@toppsfanatic2310]

@@rivory13 to be honest I had no idea that the Lawrence card i pulled was that rare until yesterday.. A dude was gonna pay me 1500 for the raw card but I'm glad he backed out the deal I didn't wanna tell him no after I already gave him a price.. But yes sir I've got every box except 2 for retail price

[@Weezy10580]

What?

[@dmac7403]

Football is very popular ,the thing is baseball and basketball seasons last way longer and have a lot more games,You can pretty much turn on a tv any night and watch a basketball or mlb game it seems like so I don't get into them until the playoffs start ,football I watch the whole season .

[@tdc1012]

Yeah. Not all quarterbacks are great investments. The worst football card purchase I made was buying a Josh Freeman auto Jersey rookie card for $70 back in 2011. That card is worthless today because Freeman’s career faded faster than a fart in the wind.

[@nylontusk1289]

I think football cards should be much more popular than what they are. In America football is clearly the most popular sport so if we can usher in or organically grow more collectors and sellers into the sports card market then I believe the market will turn the tide and begin to reflect that.

[@GotAerialllc]

Why dont you show Berry Sanders 1989 "oscar myer police lion" card as his rookie card. You know it is ;)

[@jaqueitch]

Barry. It's Barry

[@GotAerialllc]

@@jaqueitch ill notify my spell check

[@proudhammer62]

Can you do a vid on unopened factory sets?

[@aiden3507]

Which packs are the best for beginners?

[@RoknRob46]

I had a really difficult time navigating in your app , I couldn’t figure it out at all ?

[@DevilDog0351]

13:25 I would think the Green (/5) or the Black (1/1) is more sought after. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@Weezy10580]

I would think you’re right

[@user-lu6iv3xn1z]

I have a 1999 Upper Deck Michael Jordan Athlete of the Century box (sealed) I only see one online asking for $400, I would think this would be valued higher. Any thoughts to why it’s around the $400 range?

[@justicemullins8286]

I am no expert but I’d have to say it’s only priced at 400 bc the of chance of pulling said card

[@Staymad91]

Remember his modern basketball advice?

[@chrisolivo6591]

I’m sure we can find videos last year where he said buy Zion and Luka!

[@johnpowell5538]

Look on eBay at the Trevor Lawrence gold ice auto /10 psa 10 for sale right now. It is extremely off centered from top to bottom. No way it's a 10 in my opinion. I'm now 100% convinced SGC is the best grader. Not the best label or slab or resale value but definitely the best and most consistent grader. Sucks they don't sell as high as PSA. I have 100s of numbered refractors and rookies I need to get graded. I have a really hard time getting SGC to grade them even though I like them the best due to resale values.

[@fan4life345]

100% SGC IS BY FAR THE MOST CONSISTENT SINCE DAY ONE! FACT!

[@johnpowell5538]

@@fan4life345 I had a bunch of vintage graded with them 15 years ago. They were always consistent and I never see SGC 10 modern off centered.

[@DevilDog0351]

Another great vlog. 👍👍👍 Seriously, forget your top 5 vlogs. It looks self serving - like you are pimping you own cards to pump and sell.

[@Pick6Nick]

So when fanatics gets licensing will that hurt the value of panini cards?

[@forwardthinker4139]

Montana only won 3 super bowls with Jerry Rice

[@havitheone]

let’s go gators! 🐊

[@i3lazinkush760]

Say “Button” again…….. lol never heard anyone say it like that !

[@Nickoroono]

so is immaculate not worth?

[@aljohn24son]

Maybe I'm dumb but I can't find anything I'm looking for on your App ...

[@dacryptkeeper6836]

WHAT? No mention of Josh Allen??? :o

[@u2bcr8tr]

I’ll 2nd that. Josh / Keon 2024 look out! Go Bills

[@FirstCatch]

Contenders Football crack ice cards.. surprise it was not mentioned. Interesting…..

[@AndrewJohnson-nb8cp]

This video is a PSA 10 in value

[@lonkylaine]

Hockey card market is bigger than football I guess.

[@sergio_1005]

So no Big Ben ?? You’d think he would be a good investment.

[@cah88]

I mute the hello for every video, every time

[@kelleypak2864]

The Download of the app is free. Then you pay $10 to use the app....

[@ericramirez5647]

Ehhhhh I just want to collect Raiders cards. I don't want to do all that scalping bs

[@daleHarrison93]

Geoff I dont see why your investing in cards that are already crazy price...should jump into soccer before the boom. Wayne Rooney for instance highest scorer of all time for england and manchester united, his true rookies are peanuts.

[@hhenry76]

Let talk about basketball market. Why is dropping like rocket. Will trash base panini RC prizm ever going back up? Football will be over in couple week and nobody care except my Tom Brady=)

[@marcdavis82280]

Anyone know what happened to Amber?

[@fan4life345]

Best investments are: WALTER PAYTON & BARRY SANDERS .....a can't miss on a great return on investment

[@nbashorts877]

Base cards are trashed unlees its an iconic cards like mj fleer rookie card😅 basketball cards are the best investment specially the modern highend cards👊

[@MrHorribleHank]

What about Nick Foles?

[@d2cardboardnovice169]

Why is bro Geoffs teeth so round

[@troystewart7730]

Simple explanations- mahomes has won 1 SB lost 2. Gamble on Herbert- burrow they are 3 years in and done nothing. The BULLS won 3 straight twice. TEAM v Player who must be QB or 1/4th value. Nothing will touch Brady. Smith moss Woodson rice Montana - I have a Fitzgerald chrome xfractor bgs 9. Pop 12 So what. Herbert 10k. This one under 1k. In the HOF. I sold all my Kupps- same college- during their run in playoffs and SB- sold weekly and set the market. But I sold at its high. He didn’t play this year. So what’s it gonna take to get that card to what they payed for it?? And what if it doesn’t get there again? Me I am out- spending money not adding value of cards. I still hold a valiant 1/25 on card auto- the ONLY- the 1 BGS black label 10- his only black label card made. What’s that worth?

[@troystewart7730]

I want to agree and disagree so many times- to so many videos - but this time- you can’t use Joe Namath when you show a HOF card to collect. Mr irrelevant- in the NFL HOF- last in if we repick.

[@jacoboverton3409]

That app is broken!

[@templebird]

Helllooooooooo, I'm about to waste 30 mins on this clown!

[@rickparadise3186]

"Investing" in cards is not smart. This is the cringiest channel on KZbin and I love it.

[@sorrycashonly5651]

and why is that? Prices of well-graded cards had been doubled or more in the last couple of years. You can question if sports card is a good investment long term wise in the future, but saying investing in cards isn't smart when the numbers and math disagree with you will just make you look stupid... Seriously, where are the haters come from in this channel?

[@droppinBombs]

@@sorrycashonly5651 this guy obviously bought the wrong cards and doesn't know how to invest in anything properly.

[@ayeitskq]

Peyton not paydon manning you sound slow

[@Weezy10580]

Hit that like buddon lol

[@davidbousquet8308]

Those cards..... not. worth. much. anymore. lol

[@johnpowell5538]

Football cards have always been less than baseball unfortunately

[@hitcitycards6145]

Step one don’t buy football cards

[@brucethecardcollector]

You don't know shit about investing in football cards cause if you did you would told people to buy tom brady 2 years ago instead of kyler Murray 🤣 and its not all about the QB 100% of the time

[@rossravello8403]

Brady is also a QB Bruce, can tell you’ve lost a ton based on this comment alone

[@jcbuckeye]

Dudes grasping at straws in a failing market. Sorry man but it's time to call it a loss and move on. You got in when it was high so I know you have lost your ass

[@patriotsholobreakers6308]

its not his only business dont be a hater

[@sorrycashonly5651]

Sure. The dude started a KZbin channel, developed an app, and spent months and years making videos for his channel, all because he wants to cut his loss and mislead more people! /s Maybe you should be the one who should stop grasping the straws and get a hold of yourself.

[@patriotsholobreakers6308]

@@sorrycashonly5651 Its clearly a passion project for a hobby he loves

[@sorrycashonly5651]

@@patriotsholobreakers6308 I think it's more than a passion project. The sports investor app can potentially be huge as more people use it. And the amount of data he can gather from the apps will be extremely valuable to other card-related businesses in the future. He's not just a card collector or investor, I actually think this is actually one of his serious investments/ventures.

[@patriotsholobreakers6308]

@@sorrycashonly5651 He is already a millionaire though and has several other serious business ventures. If anything this is a smart investment to create another business not correlated to other markets. Still based around his passion

[@TheCompton2010]

Can’t take him seriously with that forced and cheesy AF hellllllllllo opening… not even remotely cool or catchy

[@jak77lezgo]

Great info! Thank you