Football Stadiums Built at the Wrong Time…

[@MilesTailsProwe]

I'll never understand the hate for Bank of America. Its a decent stadium in a GREAT location downtown. It just needs solid renovations to keep it modern. It does not need to be replaced.

[@anthony_rivera4735]

@@MilesTailsProwe because there's no roof

[@Dizzle0919]

agree went there for a Steelers game and it is better than Acrisure Stadium

[@great-one0389]

​@@anthony_rivera4735 Yea but why would you need a roof in charlotte

[@liemduong6729]

@@anthony_rivera4735not all stadiums need roofs, and if they did want a roof, that’s not a justifiable reason to tear down a stadium.

[@gumpotronic]

Agreed. It's basic, but basic is not necessarily a negative. Also, Uptown.

[@mandospence]

I could not imagine the Bears as an indoor team. That would be almost as bad as the Packers playing indoors.

[@jamespyle777]

Before the Super Bowl era, everyone played outdoors.

[@michaelcanney7218]

Packers and bears still relevant?

[@zacwoods]

Both will happen in the next 15-20 years unfortunately. NFL will mandate indoor stadiums for all teams at some point

[@michaelleroy9281]

​@@michaelcanney7218Bears are still relevant, without George Halas there would be no NFL at all

[@shanepleasants6280]

Vikings did it its destined to happen

[@roedergk]

Jack Kent Cooke was mesmerized by the Meadowlands stadium, which was built in the mid 1970s. When he started pursuing a new stadium for the Redskins in the 1980s, he basically.asked for a copy of the Meadowlands. This meant that, by the time he found a location for the new stadium and completed construction in 1997, FedEx Field was already 20 years obsolete.

[@johnsamoilis6379]

Giants Stadium and Arrowhead where pretty much identical except that Giants Stadiums upper deck was larger in the endzones and it was taller than Arrowhead because Arrowheads lower level was built into the ground.

[@Anglovox]

You MUST leave a game (or concert) @ FedEx early, or one risks being stuck there for 3-5 HOURS before getting out of the parking lot! One way in! One way out. The place is GAWD AWFUL!

[@amicooke1790]

Y'all really need to learn the definition of "obsolete", because it's not automatically a synonym for "aged".

[@thewannaberunner]

If you do the same for Baseball... Comiskey was built one year too early cuz look at the next Stadium to open being Baltimore and their's set the blueprint for what was to come in the future and how baseball stadiums are built now.

[@zeroeffortmemes]

Baltimore originally planned to build something very similar to New Comiskey and fortunately went with a more innovative design

[@Josh5890]

If there is one thing I'll give ownership credit for, they did their best to try and fix things after about 10 years. There is only ao much they could do, but at least they kept investing money into the park.

[@joelrobinson4497]

I have heard that Chicago had the opportunity to build one like Camden and they didn’t

[@thewannaberunner]

@@joelrobinson4497 at the time it was unheard from and they just wanted a new stadium

[@bklounge_golf]

@@zeroeffortmemesso what was so unique about Baltimore’s park? Not trying to be funny, I always figured it wasn’t anything special?

[@Gage_Brumley]

I always wish the Alamodome would have gotten an NFL team. In hindsight the Raiders should have moved there instead of going back to Oakland for only 24 years. Then Mount Davis likely would have never been built which is a good thing. The San Antonio Raiders would have fit well with the Spurs since they have the same color scheme too.

[@theraplawyer]

The Raiders belong in Oakland, just not at taxpayer expense. Just look at the streets in Oakland.

[@mikeyerian2562]

I always liked Carolina's stadium. Stadiums today look like Madden create-a-stadium...just decks and decks and luxury boxes...and glitz...it's absurd

[@7mileDem]

Levi's Stadium is an example of buyers remorse, i predict they'll move to a new mega retractable roof stadium in San Francisco within the 10-15 years.

[@mrhead6856]

To bad the stadium led to the amusement park next door closing too

[@djspencer6498]

The problem with Levi’s is that it was built in Santa Clara when it was designed to be built in San Fran. Because of Santa Clara’s climate, fans are left to roast in the sun. And because of their proximity to the San Jose Airport, FAA regulations prevent them from adding any height to the stadium. Speaking of the airport, pilots have reported being blinded by the stadium lights during the night time, since it’s right in the path of a major runway.

[@7mileDem]

@@mrhead6856 Wow! Interesting.

[@EvanEscher]

The Niners won't go anywhere.

[@liemduong6729]

@@EvanEscherlol they should move back where they actually belong, in San Francisco…

[@kgmoome]

San Antonio would definitely be in the mix for Super Bowls and NCAA final 4 events if they had a world class dome

[@ProfessorEchoMedia]

The original Soldier Field was a cool historical stadium, but it got outdated, no doubt. I don't remember many Chicagoans being excited about the renovation plans and it is pretty ugly these days, as are the Bears.

[@ALVIEDZANE]

Amen. I was in Chicago in 2005 and asked the bus driver about it. She said it was a drive-by renovation. The old Soldier Field had character and a weight to it.

[@nickmeara5323]

The Edward Jones Dome was built as a roofed extension to Cervantes Convention Center complex. After the Bidwill owned Cardinals left for Arizona after the 1987 season, Beer distributor Jerry Clinton set up Touchdown St. Louis to land an expansion team.

[@jeffwebb2966]

The dome in STL has always been used more as a convention center so we got our money out of it. It is still ok and used frequently.

[@riccorich]

The Panthers Stadium was built when Carolina was a expansion team, u can't expect then to wait a couple years for a so called Better stadium

[@vaughnshinkus4178]

New Comiskey Park is the foremost example of this imo. It opened in 1991, just a year before Camden Yards ushered in the MLB retro ballpark renaissance, and therefore became outdated quicker than any other stadium I can think of. Looking at it from another perspective, Fenway and Wrigley, two of the surviving ballparks from original Comiskey’s generation, hung on long enough for jewel box parks to come back into vogue and therefore benefitted from massive renovations and are now beloved. If they hold off on building the new ballpark for another decade or so they might never have rebuilt it at all and we’d be talking about the White Sox playing in an iconic, world class venue to this day.

[@williamhild1793]

A VERY interesting topic for a video! Thanks again, Forgotten Places!

[@camerondelamotte159]

lucas oil stadium looks cool old factory setting

[@EvanEscher]

GeorgiaDome could probably be added to this

[@djspencer6498]

@@EvanEscher it was probably excluded because it’s demolished now. The five stadiums mentioned in this video are all still standing.

[@stickynorth]

ETFE really was and is the game-changing material that made this newest generation of domed stadiums physically and economically possible. It's also being used to retrofit existing domes like Montreal's Olympic Stadium I believe with a semi-transparent fixed roof this time... Third time's a charm, eh?

[@UntiltedName]

BoA is mostly fine, but easy to nit pick. That location is what keeps it relevant, and we absolutely do not need a roof here at all. Football should be played outside.

[@andynaz5631]

The team owners need to take responsibility for building their own stadiums... no more tax money. We don't get tax money to buy a house for ourselves.

[@amicooke1790]

What drives me nuts is that even though stadiums were subsidized in the 70's and 80's, there was virtually NO advertising in the building. Now, they get fat subsidies while I have to look at seven ads on the backstop, three in foul territory, one on the back of the mound, AND on the goddamned uniforms. Hell, last year, I caught MASN digitally editing their OWN ads in over the park's when the O's were in Pittsburgh to face the Pirates.

[@baronvonslambert]

I hate to break it to you but there are PLENTY of tax layer funded government subsidies, loans, and grants for the regular guy buying a home or property to start a business lol

[@andynaz5631]

@baronvonslambert I know, and all at the taxpayer's expense... tax, tax, tax, and they key wanting and taking more, and the deficit just keeps growing. Everybody is against taxes, but they also want free stuff. Nothing is free.

[@amicooke1790]

@@baronvonslambert Irrelevant to my point. Thank you for your worthless contribution.

[@baronvonslambert]

@@amicooke1790 I don't see your name tagged in my comment, meaning I wasn't talking to you. Thank you for your lack of reading comprehension and self centeredness. Reminder, the world doesn't revolve around you.

[@adamb2619]

The Saint Louis Dome came right after a time after the late 80s where the weather had impacted the play big time and the thought of a domed stadium was popular in idea with a turfed field. Unfortunately once it was finally built, it was almost immediately outdated. We still love the dome however, just hate Kroenke.

[@amicooke1790]

Still preferable to the mid-continental stew that is St. Louis humidity, in August and September.

[@SteamboatMack]

Lots of fond memories in the Edward Jones Dome. Not much winning football played there during my time of being old enough to watch, but fun memories nonetheless. STL proposed an outdoor riverfront stadium in 2015 that the Rams sadly had no intention of even considering. Great video. Thanks for the information!

[@teacherjoe7019]

Nashville made the same mistakes Charlotte made.

[@Odin029]

Nashville payed $200 million less for its stadium and got 25+ years out of pretty much the least expensive venue the NFL and Bud Adams would accept.

[@waltercasas3124]

But we get a redu unlike them

[@KOSMOinfinite]

New Soilder Field is fine. Not evrey stadium has to be a dome. The "extra" events are marginal, aka Final Four once each decade, 1 Super Bowl. You need some stadiums outdoors with weather exposure.

[@acemulligan7010]

The stadium may be fine, but the parking is horrendous.

[@ChS-p6q]

Concerts, WrestleManias, College football bowl games, College football playoffs, Special games. So much more at indoor football stadiums now

[@KOSMOinfinite]

@@ChS-p6q All mentioned, expect for football events can be hosted at United Center. It is still $1-2 Billion to host 15-20 events per year; the ROI isn't there.

[@ChS-p6q]

@@KOSMOinfinite I'm sure that's why none of those events I mentioned are in basketball arenas anymore. Yeah, they don't know what they are doing , but you and the ownership of the Chicago Bears do.

[@KittyPurrfect100]

The NFL has gone pussyfoot with indoor football stadiums. Football stadiums are supposed to he made for football, not indoor conventions, and other events. But the days of mud, snow, bad field conditions are only going to happen in Green Bay, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, or Philadelphia. Did I forget somebody? Thanksgiving 1993 🌨️❄️ Miami vs Dallas. Unforgettable. Cleveland vs Buffalo 2007 or 2008. Ice Bowl 1967. NFL is going to find ways to make money off of you the couch potato, the crazy loyal fan who spent his recent paycheck to take his family to nosebleed seats and knows the whole entire roster. If Miami plays in a dome, fuck it.

[@Rockhound6165]

1:13 You can almost see my old season tickets in this shot. To the right, upper level, this is section 219 at the Linc. My seats were in row 25 seats 1 & 2 which are the seats closest to the camera in this shot. Sometimes I wish I didn't give up my seats. Just got too expensive.

[@fluoriteheals]

The TWA Dome.... in my hometown... It looks like a tomb!

[@danieldougan269]

The Alamodome does not deserve the hate. San Antonio built a fine venue and maintained it well. They just couldn't get a permanent NFL team because Texas already has two. It's not the most exciting venue on the inside, but San Antonio needed something practical first. I think it would be neat if they just redid the roof to make it retractable. It looks like that would not be all that difficult to change given the design of the stadium. Nissan Stadium was built "on the cheap" when it was Adelphia Coliseum, and its replacement is already under construction next door.

[@toughbutsweet1]

San Antonio never got an NFL team because Jerry Jones claims the area as the Dallas Cowboys territory and blocks any attempt to get a team.

[@TheLIMREPORT]

Look up any of the FIFA WC stadia from 1990 in Italy. Best example. Stade delle Alpi in Turin. An architectural masterpiece and would be wonderful today but the rules at the time wouldn't have allowed for it.

[@D_B_Cooper]

A masterpiece by an architect who had ‘never been to a game of football’. A running track meant it was a disaster for football

[@tylerpuszczewicz2535]

@@D_B_Cooper So, you're saying that this stadium was designed for if Italy made an attempt to host the Summer Olympics?

[@D_B_Cooper]

@@tylerpuszczewicz2535 Stadiums in Italy were traditionally owned by local govts and were built as multi purpose grounds to have wider use. The 90 wc stadiums only had Milan and Genoa as football specific grounds. Even Verona, Udine etc had running tracks and there was no hope of them hosting the Olympics, so it was basically a local govt thing to have it used as much as possible, not necessarily for massive events

[@D_B_Cooper]

@@tylerpuszczewicz2535 The Delle Alpi was so bad that Juventus played the SF and final of the 1995 UEFA Cup in Milan. It was beautiful to look at but an utter disaster.... Kinda like a few women I've known I've known over the years

[@josephj9828]

TLDR: The 90s were awful for stadium design.

[@MadMaxineC]

domes are ugly and always will be. football is an outdoor sport. cry about it.

[@withershin]

The SkyDome farts in your general direction.

[@marklittle8805]

The Sky done /Rogers Center is fine when the roof is open and there is something you want to see

[@IgorSinitar]

It was terrible for catching an Argo game. Even the rare occasions when it was sold out there was no atmosphere to speak of because of the multi purpose design. Word of advice - never make the mistake of attending a music concert at the Dome.

[@someperson3883]

When every team’s stadium was opened: AZ: 2006 ATL: 2017 BAL: 1998 BUF: 1973 CAR: 1996 CHI: 2003 CIN: 2000 CLE: 1999 DAL: 2009 DEN: 2001 DET: 2002 GB: 1957 HOU: 2002 IND: 2008 JAX: 1995 KC: 1972 LAC/LAR: 2020 LV: 2020 MIA: 1987 MIN: 2016 NE: 2002 NO: 1975 NYG/NYJ: 2010 PHI: 2003 PIT: 2001 TB: 1998 TEN: 1999 SEA: 2002 SF: 2014 WSH: 1997

[@dustp1985]

Narrator has a nice calming voice.

[@brennenroup4652]

Funny you say about the "limitations" of the Alamodome... talk to Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson about the St. Antonio Brahmas and the @UFL, Mr. Big Shot!

[@swissbeats2k]

Levis Stadium is awful.

[@djspencer6498]

EverBank Stadium could’ve qualified as well, especially with its unrealistic capacity.

[@henryca03]

When the old Gator Bowl Stadium was demolished to build Everbank Stadium in its place, Jaguars founding owner Wayne Weaver wanted a capacity of roughly 65,000, but the city of Jacksonville wanted to keep the Florida-Georgia game in JAX, hence the larger capacity.

[@djspencer6498]

@@henryca03 I know that, but the stadium doesn’t consistently draw that type of crowd.

[@goat7844]

I can tell from your view point you were born after 1990. The Green Bay Packers have one of the oldest stadium in the NFL. It is one of the most prestigious and historic stadium in NFL. Majority of all the recent NFL stadiums are cookie cutter, indoor and lacks character.

[@brianhurt8694]

One reason for any stadium to be forgettable is naming rights.

[@AB365_Official]

God don't remind me of the "Field of Broken Dreams" that is the Alamodome

[@stickynorth]

The Alamodome is still a great concept of a venue that sadly never got used as intended... Strangely Winnipeg almost build a clone project in the late 90's and early 2000's before the 15K BellMTS Centre arena was built on the ruins of the iconic Winnipeg Eaton's Flagship department store and the CFL chose to build a new football stadium on the University of Manitoba campus instead... To me it's still the best economic option for second and third tier cities that don't have the resources for multiple first-class projects...

[@98Dougmorris]

interesting video!

[@joshebbert2822]

I will never understand why cities will build a stadium before getting a team (St. Louis, San Antonio). It seems like to skimp on the cost they don't have much soul to them. The Edward Jones has the ambience of a parking garage. Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg is another example of this. By the time Tampa Bay got MLB, the stadium was already outdated.

[@KyleWiki]

Sometimes it works out though. Indianapolis wanted an NFL team so they threw a ton of money at a state of the art stadium which is where the Colts landed. Although you can make the argument that the biggest reason the Colts ended up in Indianapolis is because it is a shorter drive from Baltimore than Phoenix is.

[@Michael-sb8jf]

No metlife?

[@djspencer6498]

Honestly, the Giants and Jets always played outdoors. And East Rutherford was never gonna be a regular Super Bowl city. They only got Super Bowl 48 as a special, one-time only outdoor cold weather Super Bowl.

[@Michael-sb8jf]

@@djspencer6498 I mean it in the terms of BoA stadium To me they are basically one in the same souless

[@Z64sports]

Nothing wrong with Metlife imo

[@AchRock1509]

Great video!

[@great-one0389]

3:02 what if they installed windows in the sides of the roof or the corners?

[@zimmejoc]

Da Bears play outside. As do Da Bills and the superfan’s nemesis Packers.

[@chukaman]

Met life Stadium (NJ) belongs on this list

[@joedimaggio3687]

This video just shows that these stadiums are a colossal waste of money and resources.

[@benjaminingram4857]

They would be more expensive to build today maybe had they infested earlier.

[@geoffreylee5199]

Everyone of these team owners will say that municipalities should build them a new den, because their team will play better there. Why are you promoting cities go into debt for these wankers?

[@MadMaxineC]

Because stadiums are cool. Cry about it, millenial. You seriosuly are the worst, most whiny generation in all of history. No fun allowed! is the motto of you Karens.

[@AchRock1509]

Whew, the Alamo Dome! Darn....UTSA....no NFL team!

[@davidd5407]

Is it just me, or has the football stadium craze reached critical mass?

[@MikeyA5693]

Just you

[@nc2933]

Just went to Wembly, London at the weekend. Beautiful stadium.

[@fluoriteheals]

New Soldier Field..... UGH

[@Juwan1583]

Multipurpose are the best

[@jesseurizar7146]

Teams should be forced to change city names if they don’t play in the actual city they represent

[@SecretAsian84]

Like the 49ers 😂

[@jesseurizar7146]

@ or the Arlington Cowboys 😂

[@SecretAsian84]

@@jesseurizar7146 or the new jersey jets 😂

[@michaelleroy9281]

​@@SecretAsian84East Rutherford Jets and Giants

[@amicooke1790]

Ugh. Dumb.

[@maxscameraguy]

No love for the San Antonio Texans in the Alamodome?

[@patfrat666]

You forgot where The Browns play... I know you know it.

[@forgottenplaces9780]

I mean its nothing special, but what theyve been able to do with it as far as rennovations makes it much nicer than the ones on this list

[@patfrat666]

@@forgottenplaces9780 I believe the Haslams beg to differ, but we'll see. Not trying to bust your balls... great vids, man.

[@Jefff72]

I wish we had national laws to limit the investment with public money. We need team owners to get off welfare.

[@amicooke1790]

You had forty years to stop it and did nothing.

[@bjdon99]

How about Gillette Stadium where the Patriots play? A big nothing stadium out in a parking lot half way between Boston & Providence. Nobody has noticed it isn't very good because Tom Brady showed up the last year of the dump it replaced, but now that he and Coach B are gone, it really is not much of a place to play in or see a game played in.

[@charliem9831]

Does Football have any iconic stadiums, that were made for Football. IE not giving the Giants Yankee Stadium since it was a baseball 1st stadium. Were all the original stadium for the NFL simply duel use?

[@MilesTailsProwe]

Lambeau Field

[@captainjack913]

Lambeau?

[@charliem9831]

@ okay you got me on that one … anything else? Baseball, basketball and even Hockey have several (MSG, Wrigley, the Forum, Maple Leaf Garden, Boston Garden, Ebbets Field etc).

[@Gage_Brumley]

Lambeau Field, Arrowhead, Soldier Field, the SuperDome... all iconic football stadiums

[@charliem9831]

@ Lambeau I missed, I can see the Superdome…but Soldier Field and Arrowhead?

[@fluoriteheals]

Fed ex field....SMH.

[@rileystokosa2459]

Wasn't soldier

[@howie9416]

Domes, fake turf....football sucks these days...too homogenized

[@chuckdraper7776]

Absolutely! Outdoors, on grass, in the elements.

[@boogitybear2283]

The Tennessee Titans should just go back to Houston and being the Oilers again.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Houston you would have a problem, it's not big enough for 2 teams

[@gordonhall9871]

wasting money

[@anthony_rivera4735]

Bills new stadium was built at the wrong era because many nfl stadiums have a roof while the bills new stadium has no roof.

[@DebitAdams]

They had the option to do so but didn't want it. We will see if this would be a regret in the future.

[@stickynorth]

@@DebitAdams It already is... C'mon it's Buffalo! It's like if the Skydome in Toronto cheaped out and never put the roof on...

[@DebitAdams]

​@stickynorth I believe they should have built a roof. I seen other comments that it would have been difficult to build a strong enough roof to hold the heavy snow fall in the winter and that's even heavier snow than Minneapolis.

[@djspencer6498]

They’re only getting a new stadium to begin with due to a $600 million handout from the state of New York. Plus, Buffalo would never get a Super Bowl even if the stadium has a roof, due to the harsh winters up there.

[@TheOldTapeArchive]

Half the charm of watching Bills & Packers home games are they're played out in the elements. Roofs, even translucent ones, are turning the NFL into a snoozefest.

[@msn64man1]

Wreaking ball anyone

[@truckermikemct1]

How 'bout those Washington REDSKINS!