Who is the greatest Carlton player ever? | Blues Deep Dive - Sunday Footy Show

In the second club deep dive, Matthew Lloyd and the Sunday Footy Show panel look back at the history of the Carlton Football Club.
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[@steve8510]

If you're old enough it's Jezza, how many elite midfielders went to full forward and kicked over a 100 goals in a season for a lark?

[@barrymcdonald9868]

was going to be my pick, he also went back in his later years, was silk

[@tonenotrequired8626]

Jezza started as a HFF then went to full forward then centre then HBF.

[@blackdogRexy]

Jezza averaged less than 14 possessions a game in the three seasons prior to moving to FF. He was a human highlight real but never an elite midfielder.

[@Watsupyoutube]

Malcolm blight, he won a Brownlow also.

[@wheelson7895]

Didn’t realise elite midfielders averaged 14 touches a game

[@azzaprime7257]

Fun Fact about Kernahan, If you include his South Australian Career, the Bloke went on to kick 1004 goals and played 367 games combined... that's phenomenal. Id say Sticks was Carltons 2nd best all time player, behind Nicholls at 1 and SoS at 3.

[@pricey6177]

Craig Bradley was sensational. Best 3 players I’ve seen play for Carlton from the 80’s fwd was Kernahan, Silvagni and Bradley. Not a Blues fan either

[@JGH1708]

How does Tayla Harris not get a mention? She once took 3 marks in one game.

[@yips4914]

haha what abt lawrence angwin?

[@steve8510]

It's fair to say she'd be in the conversation before you.

[@yips4914]

@@steve8510 he'd...pretty sure hes a guy...

[@JGH1708]

@@steve8510 We've both played zero games for Carltons AFL team but I've never fought a former hairdresser in the ring so she has one up on me.

[@patkelly6349]

lol. Then gets a statue. What a joke.

[@Casanova-Frankenstein_93]

Can't believe they mentioned Judd but not Cripps tbh. Cripps needs to win a flag to get into that group probably.

[@gfunkera]

Judd is miles ahead of Cripps

[@Casanova-Frankenstein_93]

@@gfunkera they're talking about Carlton legends, I'd say Cripps has achieved more for Carlton, with many years still to come.

[@iankearns774]

Missing piece in that puzzle, you cant be truly called great until you lift the cup at the Blues. Judd didn't get one there either but did at West Coast.

[@iankearns774]

@@gfunkera Different sort of player, Cripp is a stoppage beast, Judd was silk cutting through the stoppage with pace, You cant compare the two.

[@banga9169]

Cripp by far he could of left and went home but stayed and building our Culture

[@ronanrogers4127]

Jezza was in a class of his own. Nichols, Sticks, Doull great players, but if you could choose only one…Jezza.

[@greggranland8031]

Tooo many greats to pick from.... awesome club with a proud history. Ohhh the memories, especially Princess Park thru the 80's. Forever etched in my mind. Look fwd to returning to that power house reputation again. And it's coming .. go baggers 💙🏆

[@bradwilliams2081]

Geoff Southby was a pretty handy fullback. What about the 1972 Grand Final? 28 goals 9 behinds 177 points. I think it was this particular Grand Final where Percy rucked all day. "Big Nick" left himself in the Forward Pocket all day and kicked 6 goals. 2062 games? Try 2602.

[@markuswilmes3694]

Kouta before knee injury and Greg Williams for mine silvagni was good bit at a time when full backs were allowed too hold jumpers so that’s what he did

[@adstaxman7877]

Kouta before his injuries for sure, so dominant.. Diesel was very good, but wasn't there long enough, & Kouta was way more damaging than him

[@markuswilmes3694]

He was a star in Sydney too robbed of 1993 Brownlow but yeah kouta had all the trucks

[@iankearns774]

Talking about Full Backs I cant believe Southby didn't rate a mention. Best traditional Full Back I have seen.

[@adstaxman7877]

@markuswilmes3694 you cannot be robbed of a brownlow, it's a flawed voting system. The 3rd ranked player could have just as much influence as the 1st ranked player but receives only 1/3 of the votes. In 1976 Leigh Matthews averaged 28 disposals a game & kicked 91 goals.. didn't win the brownlow. How is that possible

[@stronzer59]

For sheer workload Kouta was the AFL's first Superman. His speed around the park was something to behold Grabbing the footy off the ground in full flight with just one hand was unheard of in the 90's

[@pillwolak]

"I did get some compliments last week". Gotta love Lordo 😂😂

[@jdk8284]

Bosustow's mark and goal of the year in the same year phenomenal ,, the buz electrified the early eighties

[@pauldixon1766]

All great players in their own right. Watched Blues since mid 60s but if forced to rank them > 1 Big Nick 2 Jezza 3 Bruce.

[@user-zm6zw5by3s]

They are getting better and better as the eras evolve Still struggling to catch up how Bruce Douall did it GOAT: Bruce Douall NO-ONE DID IT OR DOES IT LIKE BRUCE

[@AndrewDean-rt8cv]

Kouta as well but unfortunately his career was interrupted by two knee reconstructions

[@ethan76708]

I’d go with Patrick Cripps his 2 year stretch from 2018 to 2019 was one of the best players I’ve ever seen while carrying a terrible supporting cast which cost him getting a Brownlow and then he won the Brownlow a couple of years ago easily one of the best contested footy players ever and a great captain it’s a shame Carlton wasted his prime

[@ronanrogers4127]

Recency bias

[@sabblues]

He’s still playing just as well, arguably could already have 6 brownlow votes this year.

[@user-zm6zw5by3s]

@tonenotrequired Can someone remind these 'judges' Douall played in the backline, told Robert Walls, Coach, 'I don't get runners' and never got another one. Super cool, super quiet, super humble, one more season, '87, would have got more ganes AND another flag...had done enough GOAT: Bruce Douall ☘️

[@pauldixon1766]

You could at least spell his name correctly for a bit more credibility

[@jdk8284]

used to work with Doually at the Preston postal hub

[@pauldixon1766]

Was he duly diligent ?

[@acadacs]

Lloydy embracing his ego and laughing gets me every time, last week on wcme with the flexing was hilarious

[@SpawnofChaos2010]

Felt like the whole panel was sucking up to me... well, it fuckin worked. Thanks boys!

[@tonenotrequired8626]

NONE better than DOULL

[@tateduku]

Hands Down Craig Bradley!!! & Sticks is my favorite player of All-Time!!

[@AndrewDean-rt8cv]

375 games for the Blues and don’t forget 98 at Port Adelaide

[@cjayl7595]

Jezza ...no question

[@joeohalloran9309]

For me, Wayne Johnson was our best player

[@MrVice123456]

Kouta doesn’t get a mention.

[@gfunkera]

Lloyd mentions him at 3:00

[@PeterM1-qx1tz]

Carlton arent my team but as a kid I remember they were always playing in Grand Finals and seemed to be winning them. They had so many good players over the years, the 1979 -1982 Mosquito Fleet comes to mind. The media rated Wayne Carey the best player of all time, (depending on which poll you read) but Kernahan kicked more goals in fewer games than Wayne... When it comes to centre half forwards there havent been many better than the big Blue. So he would probably be my pick. A lot of people would pick Jezza, hard to argue with that as well. ; ]

[@srikaye2688]

50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's he said, thats 5 decades and pretty great. But not another club? Hawthorn have 6 decades of premierships 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's and 10's

[@robdp8900]

Andrew Walker says hello from the stratosphere

[@Bigdeano75]

SOS and Kouta for mine. Go blues!!!

[@Julian-xs8nc]

You forgot Josh bootsma

[@PlanetsPerfect10s-xm8eu]

Hey what about Kouta

[@user-oh3gz5vq3o]

Jezza was an absolute Freak - but Hunter might’ve been even better. Doull is also in my best 18, and Rhys isn't far off them.

[@thebops4180]

Seen all the generations. Jezza by a mile. He was a freak!

[@user-zm6zw5by3s]

GOAT: Bruce Douall

[@sydnee4526]

Sticks, what a player

[@benrancie3590]

I was at the SOS mark game

[@gregjameson2141]

The flying doormat

[@gaetanorossin7454]

I asked my late father who passed away in 1998 who was the greatest player he had seen and he said Big Nick was the best he had seen at Carlton

[@jeffnewman8633]

Judd is not even in my top 6 0r 7

[@thetwotime4901]

No mention of Fev. Hurtful

[@giopomerol3952]

Possums, its a no brainer..... JEZZA!

[@gaetanorossin7454]

5 greatest players I’ve seen Kernahan Doull Johnston Williams and Judd that’s not in order but Kernahan definitely number 1

[@andrewmcloughlin8869]

What about Kouta? Travesty he never won a Brownlow.

[@user-tx8tc2dr1c]

Sticks Kernahan no doubt❤

[@jamesscott7616]

There is one problem with the selections of great Carlton players and teams and that is you are talking about the VFL not the AFL.

[@leewilliamson7119]

deisel for me

[@dakidd729]

Lordo for me mate

[@Not1Dimensional]

No current Carlton player on the current list today would be in the top 3 Carlton players of all-time.

[@Casanova-Frankenstein_93]

cripps could be if he captains a flag and wins a 2nd brownlow

[@rtmachine2019]

Was Robert Walls mentioned

[@SubCreativeChannel]

Can we move this show to Thursday night?

[@mbellino85]

where was Bradley no idea

[@ethybubs]

Really irks me that they put Silvagni in the list but not Southby

[@paulmatters2641]

John Nicholls was the best player to do time in Pentridge jail. Hall of Fame LOL

[@Richothecat]

In my time it's Kernahan or silvagni. I'd put kouta in the top three too. All Time it's probably Jesa or doull

[@tonenotrequired8626]

DOULL.

[@markuswilmes3694]

If Cripps took a hit a hit and took that mark in the prelim like hodge etc would’ve he’d be up there but too selfish still

[@patkelly6349]

What about Ken hunter

[@PeterM1-qx1tz]

The WA and Claremont legend .. looked like a homeless guy, played like a Spartan ; ]

[@patkelly6349]

@@PeterM1-qx1tz agree. I’m a Tiger supporter but my god he was good

[@garybaltiejus7248]

Stephen kernahan 💯

[@debporter8114]

John Nichols Kerman’s. Jezz

[@codescross7042]

When was the last time they won a premiership? 😂

[@lukeamery2391]

what about the dominator

[@scotmclaughlin2113]

The blues got the best talent out of SA 👍💪 wen it was vfl

[@thedownunderverse]

Jimmy Plunkett a bit stiff not to get a mention. Cain Ackland and Lukey Livingstone also waz robbed

[@Ducatirati]

Nicholls, played in 3 premiership teams 2 as capt 1 as playing coach , broke a 21 year drought , now Rick is poised to join him (NICHOLLS) if he can lead us to a flag , no argument . But as things stand and I've seen all those careers ,Jezza is stiff , only Big Nick was unbeatable , GO BLUES RARARA

[@johnroach9691]

Where is Kouta?

[@turbyoulance]

Syd Jackson number 5 was good but John Nichols for me.

[@adstaxman7877]

Mark Athorn surely?

[@user-ee6hx1ke1i]

Digby Morrell's stint very stiff missing out

[@user-zm6zw5by3s]

It's NOTHING like who is better, Beatles or Pink Floyd? Let's go golfing ☘️

[@chippab1407]

Go vin cotoggeo no.4 😜

[@lucadecarolis28]

whats wrong with kanes shoulder

[@peterfromwaggawagga]

It's from carrying his sack full of "Hot Takes."

[@gregjameson2141]

Diesel

[@yips4914]

seriously has to be lawrence angwin

[@alexander8688]

Before or after his Break and enter. 🤔

[@yips4914]

@@alexander8688 after

[@joelfalconer6678]

Andrew Walker best carlton mark.

[@AIJimmybad]

An all-time Carlton side is the only side that would get within 8 goals of an all-time Hawthorn side, which would be simething like: Collins Langford Ayres Hodge Mew Knights Crawford Mitchell Dipierdomenico Scott Tuck Platten Buckenara Brererton Franklin Matthews Hudson Dunstall Int Rioli Roughead Wallace Breust 4 Brownlows 5 Coleman medallists 83 flags 2 double Norm Smith winners 1 greatest player ever They'd bash a best of Carlton team up.

[@PeterM1-qx1tz]

Theres not a lot to argue with there ; ]

[@but1z]

Adrian DeLuca and Luke Livingstone stiff not to get a mention

[@thedownunderverse]

JIMMY PLUNKET BRUZZ

[@PetraKann]

Doull

[@user-oh3gz5vq3o]

I'd have both Hunter and Jezza in front of him, perhaps only because they also had an attacking side to their game.

[@PetraKann]

@@user-oh3gz5vq3o jezza and Hunter certainly all time greats.

[@tonenotrequired8626]

​@@user-oh3gz5vq3oSorry but Doull was better than Hunter and Kenny and far more reliable. Jezza had off days !!! And Kenny had injuries.

[@user-oh3gz5vq3o]

@tonenotrequired8626 Doull very rarely lowered his colours to anyone, which is why he's considered the way he his. But it's far easier to defend than create. Jezza had skills defenders could only dream of. And Hunter might’ve been even better. Just thinking about it now, there are things Jezza could do that very few that have played the game could- just those baulks and taps and the things very few other's would even consider. This is why D Jarman is ten times the player Ricciuto was.

[@markuswilmes3694]

Probably because he hit blokes and swore at the umps like diesel did

[@johngiovas1868]

Fevola would of been the GOAT if he wanted it.

[@wes2705]

Jezza Diesel Ratten Sticks Dominator Flying doormat Harmes

[@rhyslatchford724]

Koutafides

[@peterfromwaggawagga]

For me, the two greatest Carlton players of all time are David Rhys-Jones and Lance Whitnall.

[@iankearns774]

Lance "ate all the pies" Whitnall, good to see he is back at coaching Lalor, hopefully can lift them out of Divvy 3.

[@Casanova-Frankenstein_93]

skinny lappin

[@MrWhitmen1981]

Cheated too many times, no one stands out. 😂 maybe the visy recycling accountant?

[@iankearns774]

Every club cheated we just cheated a bit longer and got caught.

[@Richothecat]

If you're Gunna troll,do better.... Clearly many stand out

[@blueycarlton]

The League said they were going to investigate every club, but stopped at Carlton. The day it happened, a former coach of one of the other sides said on radio, the shredders would be working overtime at his former club.

[@andrewmarie9747]

Seriously SOS was a good player at best shouldn’t even be in the conversation I could name 5 full backs just of the top of my head way better than SOS Seriously overrated in my opinion

[@anthonyfisher5579]

Why are they counting old vfl premierships? Wake up vics

[@dtrezy5223]

Because it's the same league. It just changed its name

[@baggerssss]

u blokes joined our league 😂 why would we count urs??

[@darthgeros5863]

A little bit over reacting on Carlton here boys.

[@mck1505]

Why dont you write to the tv station and complain? No one cares for your whinging

[@Richothecat]

A little bit of jealousy here boy

[@GunbhmnGuinnk]

Kouta

[@alexinanalogue2645]

Amazing player. I still remember him dominating in a game against the bombers in a game in 2000 until he hurt his knee. I had to admit he had this Essendon supporter nervous that day haha!