For Music Teachers: Using Loopback by Rogue Amoeba

[@steveperks59]

I set up a home studio to enable me to teach guitar students online and have spent literally months of tearing my hair out trying to find a working solution to multiple audio inputs into Zoom. Nothing seemed to do what it said on the tin, the biggest problem being my USB guitar interface hogging channels and killing other sources. I tried OBS, routing tracks in Logic Pro or Reaper, Blackhole, VB Cable - nothing would give me the three main sources I needed: Microphone, USB Interface and System sound. After watching your video, I bought Loopback on a leap of faith and withing 15 minutes I had a robust working setup! Not only that, I could add keyboards and as many inputs as I desired. It also made recording multiple audio channels a breeze. I know it's 3 years old now, but thank you so much for this - you are a scholar and a Gentleman!

[@adrianthomas4163]

Live saver! That bypass trick was exactly what I needed. Thanks a lot.

[@JakeEstnerGuitarLessons]

Considering getting loopback and this was one of the clearer tutorials. Thanks!

[@alexarango]

I watched this video out of curiosity a while back and didn't think I'd ever need it so I didn't pay close attention, just thought it was a cool concept. Fast forward and I'm in dire need of some audio routing so I'm back and this is a life saver. Thanks Gregg!

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

Absolutely my pleasure - I have even used this a few times for routing monitor-mixes for my live-recordings (see kzbin.info to see the results) - works like a charm!

[@alexarango]

@@GreggCharestEWGBands After a couple hours, I got white noise and it told me I had to buy the pro version so I had to learn how to use Aggregate and Multi-Output devices on Mac. Oh well, learnt a lot about routing!

[@AndyLehman]

A couple thoughts. Adding the zoom software as a source and having the pass-thru device and setting zooms speaker to the virtual device name is redundant. the whole idea of pass-thru is to have it show up as a output source but if you are already adding zoom as a source anything zoom plays to a speaker is captured in your virtual device. (I just tested this and it is true, i saw audio coming in on both. Second thought why do you even need to bring the zoom audio in, unless your capturing the video in some other application to save it. If you do this anything that is said from zoom from your students is brought into your virtual device and then sent back out to zoom. so the students hear what they just said thus causing some strange echo.

[@cliffsmithguitarlessons]

Creating the bypass solved all my problems, thank you! I spent many hours trying to figure it out! Liked and subscribed.

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

Absolutely my pleasure! This channel is a catch all from my school, but I have a more "professional" channel called Ensemble Teacher Tech. I'll have tutorials like this one (and will probably migrate this video over, at some point. Here's a link, if you're interested: kzbin.info/door/vrDr-A3g7-3XBFl5H2u0JQ

[@IslamYunusov]

Thank you, Gregg!

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

My pleasure!

[@colinwilliamson903]

Gregg- Thanks for the fantastic video. The bypass is brilliant! I have been trying to get rid of my voice in the headphones for months. This is a perfect solution. Thank You!

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

Glad it worked - simple elegant solutions make the world go 'round!

[@DavidMorales-cv2jn]

Thanks for helping me eliminate the delay in my audio.

[@saskelee]

So i just learned about this software and you just solved a problem that i didn't even know i had as i planned to go live and have background music playing. I found so much value here i had to subscribe. You were very patient and informative.

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

Thanks so much for the feedback - I have another channel called "Ensemble Teacher Tech," which is designed for music teachers HOWEVER, if you are a podcaster, you might also enjoy this tutorial for "Farrago" which is made for podcasters and easy to use while live-recording: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIPSpptprN-ZrKc

[@saskelee]

@@GreggCharestEWGBands youre welcome and i am a podcaster i training so thannnks for the recommendation

[@theyogabios]

Thank you for this Sir.

[@WollisWorld]

Mine sometimes stop playing sounds I don’t know why I have to play with it and do it all over why is that

[@barbarafreedman1542]

Brilliant. Well done, clear, concise, and you saved my audio!

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

Absolutely my pleasure!

[@ca8746]

Thank you for doing this video - very helpful to me.

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

You are so welcome!

[@frankonAUX]

worked like a charm I am so happy. Thank you

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

All my pleasure!

[@montybanana]

Thank you so much for making this video!

[@robinvangeerke7570]

Thank you! very helpful

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

Glad it was helpful!

[@gui.almusic]

Thanks for the video, I’m currently using ListenTo audiomovers but I noticed that when I add a live track with a plugin for example a guitar amp or an audio channel with my acoustic guitar the audio isn’t going through. Does Loopback would make it go through?

[@Z15TEENG]

Thanks a lot . YOUR tutorial was helpful .

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

You are welcome!

[@willemxeno]

This was great, highly appreciated thanks!

[@jayandsherrysandifer]

helpful! thanks!

[@JorgeCidMusic]

Hi Gregg, thanks for the video, I have a question: What audio device are you using in MainStage 3 in this case? thanks!

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

Hello Jorge! I have been using a few: the Pearl Malletstation (I'm a percussionist), but also a small 32 key piano controller. I just started using a launchpad, as well (not in mainstage, but I think there may now be support for this? It's in Logic, anyhow).

[@ldcafe]

Thank you! You helped me a lot

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

Absolutely my pleasure, Dani!

[@sol_music]

Thank you!!

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

Truly my pleasure!

[@madmac66]

Wow, this is an expensive solution, but it IS a solution. Seems to work great. My problem, as a guitar and bass teacher online, is that the signal I pass through Amplitube (an amp and stomp sim) get so delayed with latency when using a combination of Soundflower and AudioMIDI Aggregate Devices that I cant use it. I can’t find a solution to use ‘good’ sounding guitar tone (without using a bunch of outboard gear on my office floor), mix it with video and mic sources in OBS and send that all to Zoom. Loopback looks like a great idea. What is your experience with latency?

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

I am mostly not using midi, although for my private lessons (percussion) I occasionally use Mainstage with either a Pearl Malletstation controller, or a small keyboard. I haven't noticed an issue with latency. I am using OBS for classroom teaching and again, occasionally use Mainstage with my keyboard and haven't noticed an issue. I have run backing tracks while using multiple cameras for ukulele lessons with no issues. Rogue Amoeba has offered subscribers to my *other* channel a 30% discount if you use the code WIBC2021 when you purchase (a reference to a music tech session I'll be offering at the Western International Band Clinic in a few weeks). My other channel (this one is a school account) is called "Ensemble Teacher Tech" and I would be very appreciative for a like/subscribe over there. Glad this worked for you!

[@madmac66]

@@GreggCharestEWGBands Thanks Gregg for taking the time to reply in such detail. I will check out your other channel. And many thanks for the code, that is really great 👍

[@madmac66]

@@GreggCharestEWGBands I should also mention that my son is in high school marching band and drum line. They just use vanilla Zoom for their distance learning. I will point his band director over to this channel, maybe there is something he can learn here too. Thx again

[@DrD4n]

@@GreggCharestEWGBands Hi Gregg. On what platform are you using OBS? Thanks for the awesome video :)

[@magnuseriksson8081]

That Audio came through very loooad.. 😊. Can you show how to sync a number of audio sources into Logic Pro?

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

Hi Magnus - are you attempting to put everything through into a single channel? I'm happy to make a quick tutorial - the process would be very straightforward. Let me know!

[@magnuseriksson8081]

@@GreggCharestEWGBands No, I would like to add everything one by one and make sure it all works together and is quantised. Maybe parts from my 101, Synth from Microfreak, Vocals and other sounds

[@alexanderaudio8383]

Hi, any set up needed to happen in Audio Midi Setup before using Loopback?

[@GreggCharestEWGBands]

I haven't needed to do any "extra" setup - but remember that you are always choosing sources and outputs, so if your source is, for example, Mainstage, you DO need to specify it and route it to the correct output.

[@robert_starling]

Hopefully they moved the delete button by now.