For-Profit College Whistleblower: Colleges Deceive Students, Parents about Job Prospects

[@jmonte5896]

Pro tip: If your "college" advertises on Maury or Springer, it's probably not legit

[@mssha1980]

MasterSequence it’s not the same

[@haeseongahn6856]

Devry *cough cough*

[@monkeymeat2024]

What about Divorce Court?

[@darrenkrock736]

The entire for-profit education industry is trash and fraudulent. I attended the Art Institutes from 2009-2012. The recruiters do exactly what this video says. During my time there the quality of education, on-campus ammenities and instruction got worse and worse. I now have $60,000 in student debt and couldn't get employed in my field (advertising). After months and months of applying for ad jobs, I landed just 2 interviews. In one interview I was asked "why I would be a qualified candidate compared to people who went to other more prominent schools?" They knew of my school's pathetic reputation. My former campus is closing in two months and my degree now useless. Don't go to these schools!!

[@1czechit1]

I went to the Art Institute and to the University of Texas. I learned more at the Art Institute. All colleges (AI, and UT) are worthless to some degree. My real education began on my second job in the industry. From that job's connections I got pretty much all my other jobs. What really set me apart was that I showed up on time, did the work, helped my colleagues, and had a good attitude (I smiled.) If you really want to learn, read a book and get a job. All higher education is a scam.

[@1czechit1]

@@ClaireBella-tu4dq I am convinced by your well thought out and extrapolated argument.

[@gamerhistorian7843]

Ironic, a for profit college commercial ad appeared before the video.

[@8azile8]

$80,000??? What school did he go to and what was his degree? My friend went for an associates in fashion marketing, she's only worked in clothing stores as a "floor designer." AKA, changing the mannequins...you don't need a degree for that. It's a shame that this is even legal.

[@dbstewart86]

The problem is they pitch themselves to a lot of people leading difficult lives that probably weren't really good students in high school, or maybe didn't make the best decisions. A B average student can usually get some scholarships at a state level school, so a lot of these people are probably C students that started to intellectually mature late and are in despair at where to go in their lives.

[@roboclean3rd396]

Nope it’s mostly A and B students sucking off the debt while most people are working for C students

[@1czechit1]

You think a four year university is any different?

[@Lanatus]

Even public universities do not fully prepare you for work. Schools in general has become a business. 90% of what most professional do in their work are learned through experience.

[@mssha1980]

Lan C it’s still not the same. Most of these schools aren’t accredited so you can’t even sit for the required certification

[@Preservestlandry]

Not my profession. I don't know how you think we all just wing it. Lol.

[@bensimmons6149]

Lan C med and law school is legally required lmao

[@1czechit1]

I spent 2015 to 2020 studying law on my own. I saw what they teach in law schools. I understand why after attending law school you still cannot pass the BAR exam. It's all BS. (I do not need to practice law. The point was to understand the contracts I was reading.)

[@honeybdream]

What a scam. I've seen it happen to many people. Where's the law to protect the students?

[@ebonyeyed08ti]

Not that I agree , but they are considered adults who are informed over and over to read fine print, and once you sign its delivered and your ass is theirs. I believe most or all schools state that their not responsible for unemployment after graduation

[@nema1218]

My heart goes out to you my friend.

[@ryanoconnor5176]

Why can't college be free for everyone? I think paying for tuition is appalling idea.

[@sch001b0y]

College system is broken here in the US.

[@nema1218]

I agree,I think the message has to go out.Many who are vulnerable will fall for this scam. These schools should be shut down.

[@benneb1000]

50% of all student dept is from the 10% of all colleges. Guess witch are the for profit schools.

[@GoatyHerps]

LMFAO I get the feeling that you're in no position to judge a school.

[@stonefree7973]

@@GoatyHerps Let me guess? You went to a for-profit college and got duped.

[@Monkofthecaribbean]

@@stonefree7973 No, he was responding to an idiot who cant spell or use proper grammar.

[@lucasm4299]

As long as unregulated capitalism gets profit, it doesn’t care if lives are ruined or scammed. These for-profit people don’t care about you

[@glenp.8241]

That's low... Anybody can tell Walmart and janitorial work are things ppl do to survive not to live. Congrats on your degree for Walmart. Now pay us

[@oregonxyz]

teach them all a lesson - DO NOT pay back any loans.... they cant put you in jail - that would cost them money

[@AlexaThinks]

I believe University of Phoenix is also a culprit. I know a woman from there that had a masters but can't find a professional job because they feel like the degree isn't credible

[@RFJersey]

Miss Michelle Phoenix is regionally accredited, it’s not like some of the others mentioned in this video.

[@howardburke7085]

If you've been suckered by a for-profit college, you'd better be giving JILL STEIN serious consideration as a presidential candidate! She is the only candidate that is serious about helping the students bamboozled by these universities! VOTE JILL STEIN 2016!

[@billyflood2430]

The tip was the "college" was NATIONALLY, not REGIONALLY accredited. SACSCOC is the real deal for regional college accreditation. UofL, UK, UGA are regionally accredited by SACSCOC. Always check for that.

[@kervensjasmin1508]

Is it possible to live in 16k a year in the US wtf

[@gokublack8342]

I'm living on 12 you just basically have to be super cheap about everything

[@sheriffaboubakar9720]

Goku Black are you attending college? and what is your job?

[@gokublack8342]

@@sheriffaboubakar9720 I was a while back I completed one semester but didn't have the money to continue and would've had to take student loans and I wasn't about to get into that much debt and I work 35-40 hrs a week at a gas station I live in Alabama though so cost of living is low I could pretty decently off 16

[@sheriffaboubakar9720]

Goku Black you might as well save up and do music or start a business or something. College isn't worth it IMO.

[@gokublack8342]

@@sheriffaboubakar9720 Yeah I agree was just telling the dude that it is in fact possible to live off of those income amounts you just have to be disciplined

[@optic_reviews2472]

What we need too do is let our mayors and state senators about these profit schools and let the media know and every single official know about these scams happening where a huge protest need too go out against edmc and the bankers who are providing them money.

[@ladedalounge]

No, this is happening all over.

[@jamesbrochey4970]

AiFL Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale : They were not able to place me in a job. I Graduated with a B.S. in Graphic Design with $56K in student loans that even today I cannot use. They count my career as an Art Teacher for Miami-Dade Public Schools as a job placement when they had absolutely nothing to do with me getting that job.

[@nema1218]

Good thing you left these scam schools,I hope more people are like you!

[@Talexa66]

The medical field is about the only one that will get you anywhere these days. People always get sick.

[@vince11harris]

Talexa66 not true plumbers and electricians people need lights and they need to shit too 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@TITO-sy2rn]

Or, anything cars related...

[@QueenOfTheDamned]

@Alpha Omega Why do you say that about IT having similar constraints?

[@jamesbrochey4970]

I have since been in debt to Sallie Mae and other than Sallie Mae I have had no negative credit for 15 years. Sallie Mae reported 14 separate loans as negative on my credit with no notification to me for 6 months totally destroying my once 714 credit score.

[@Tellthetruth61]

Please push this point home.

[@jokeronyxx]

Only did one semester with a for profit college. Left it after some of the stories ive heard. Sallie Mae since then has destroyed my credit, I have nothing else out there. But my credit score has 10+ counts against me for one loan. Cant, get a car, cant get a job "credit check". These loans, these colleges should have to reverse this for the fraud. I had a friend completed that college. He got a 80,000 dollar degree with no prospects of ever getting a job.

[@Beck-Stein]

These colleges have a target audience and it’s the ignorant. Not sure why tax payers have to repay their loans they signed.

[@alley1433]

Yes, Berkeley College, Will Moya, Director of math Dept, etc. Scammmmmm.

[@travisbinder9426]

These profit school should not be qualified to get government grants.

[@unisangalaxystudio]

even community College is staring to be the same now

[@1czechit1]

The problem is not "for profit" school (you can just read books), its that people are taking loans in tens of thousands of dollars for information they can get for "free" at the library. (or cheaper at used book stores.) the real competition is between reading (I hear the groans) and "the college experience." (rolling my eyes.)

[@GoatyHerps]

NEWS FLASH: A diploma alone does not get you a job. If you suck at interviews and have no experience, that's your own problem. ::shrug::

[@RFJersey]

Cody S. I cringe when people expect to be hired just because they have a degree.

[@GoatyHerps]

@Alpha Omega - You are correct... But that doesn't change the fact that a degree will not solve all of your problems.

[@GoatyHerps]

@Alpha Omega - Didn't say you did. Just restating my original point since you went off topic.

[@GoatyHerps]

@Alpha Omega - "A degree alone..." "If you suck at interviews." Learn to read, bub. It'll help.

[@LuisDiaz-qo7hg]

while all are expensive, not all are scams. most students need to get their foot out the door and work their asses off, not relying on the institutes to find them employment. however, there are some scams like Art Institute and U of P, but really, there are some good for-profit colleges, they just are expensive and students should take initiative.

[@josephparker646]

Mount San Jacinto College actually has a reliable and good record for employment. Mount San Jacinto College is part of the California Community College system

[@divamommi]

Free education is the solution

[@nikolavanzettiteslasacco4991]

Question: "school" aka "college" then Read! Weapons of mass instructions or the underground history of American Education.

[@AC-qo8oq]

I’m curious as what happens once these colleges are closed due to fraud? Are these students going to have to pay the full amount back? Will their debt be purchased by another company or will they be absolved of all their debt? Only some trade degrees, top law schools, nursing, some engineering programs, physician’s assistant programs are worth anything.

[@zhbvenkhoReload]

They have to pay it back since they owe the loans to the federal government not the college

[@AC-qo8oq]

zhbvenkhoReload oh wow! Yikes

[@dbstewart86]

I imagine the government is going to try to extract the money from the profits of these institutions, because it'll be a terrible look for them to go after hundreds of thousands of students for places the government allowed to exist and tacitly endorsed. That said, it'll be hard for them to recoup some money lost to the ether since smart investors left long ago. They'll probably get back a few hundred million of the billions owed and call it a wash

[@mssha1980]

If the school closes while you’re attending and you haven’t graduated you can get the loans discharged.

[@alphariusomegon6710]

Tbh I think I'm just gonna head to the local recruiter and say "OK, you pay for my degree in medical sciences and I'll enlist as a medic so I can both serve my country and do a job I worked Hard for.

[@zhbvenkhoReload]

They don't mean army recruiter

[@nema1218]

I really feel for you,it makes me sad.

[@a2zhandi]

Hundreds of thousands graduating every year. Millions of jobs already lost due to automation.. Society had better take a second look at itself and make necessary adjustments before things get really ugly.

[@roboclean3rd396]

High school need to promote trade skillz like a lot

[@bantoneil]

OMG!

[@renataravensong]

They tried that tactic with my husband. They had to deal with me. I'd pay them and they'd start harassing my father-in-law whining that we had not paid. I lit them up for it verbally, told them that their shoddy practices were why the government had to bail them out in '09. The moron on the phone tried telling me Sallie Mae hadn't been bailed out. It's moderately amusing listening to the gears turn in their brain when they get caught in their idiotic lies, yes?

[@8azile8]

EXACTLY! Also, college is so much fun. You have so many opportunities, you meet wonderful people and have legitimate professors. I went to an AI for a month, huge mistake! They actually put down universities and don't even have real teachers (since they're not actual professors, you call them "instructors" and by their first names). Another scam I noticed was that you CONSTANTLY are buying art supplies from the "campus art store" increasing their profits and putting students even more in debt.

[@1czechit1]

I learned more at AI (2 years) than at the University of Texas (4 years). Yes college is fun (and a waste of time.) I suggest you read "The Case Against Education" by an economics professor. My AI degree put me head and shoulders above my University friends by the time it came to finding a job. I had skills, they had a piece of paper I never bothered to pick up after graduation.

[@indriza]

i mean.. come on.. a degree from "brown mackie college".. what do u expect.....

[@2MuchSoul810]

I worked there 3 years ago lol yep it's all true they worse then car salesman and will fire your ass if you can't get a sale I mean enroll a student lol

[@jvolstad]

Join the military. Great educational benefits.

[@lauraann7027]

Yes, I’m lucky the Air Force picked Diagnostic Imaging for me. Now I got a job and translated those skills to the civilian side.

[@jvolstad]

@@lauraann7027 I just had a stress test (NUC) at Fort Sam Houston. I'm radioactive for three days. 😂

[@waaazupd1948]

They don't care, they just want money

[@Leoleonpd]

The way to do college and have no debt is to work full time or part time and go to a good college online. That way you can pay off you college while you attend. Also ask your employer to help you pay for tuition, and use CLEPs to test out of as many classes as you can. Lots of fast food jobs have deals with colleges or even scholarships. If you want to accelerate your degree to get done faster, try Western Governor's University or excel track at Purdue University Global. Never attend a For Profit University and only attend a school that is regionally accredited

[@BobTheBob647]

It's hard for me to feel sympathy for these student as they got sweet-talked by essentially a snake-oil salesman.

[@HollowHill17]

+Andy Le what if they were your grand grand grand children of the future, that being sweet talked and taken advantage of by snake-oil salesman?... not only that they wasted 3/4 years or amount of debt and no more have good credit score or may face jail time.......... and life ruined due to this.

[@BobTheBob647]

Quietsoul180 Still, there are other kids that were smart enough to spend 15 minutes to do research onto their schools BEFORE spending thousands of dollars... I'd be disappointed that my grand-kids were that gullible. But I don't want to sound like I'm in favour of all the practices at these schools. They often make deceptive claims, particularly in terms of income. That's BS. But it's still hard to have sympathy for a bunch of kids willing to spend thousands of dollars without spending 15 minutes to do a simple Google-search.

[@HollowHill17]

Andy Le those thousands of dollars is not from students but, yours and my tax dollars... through financial aid or loans...... students are paying fractional of books and classes, the actual tuition and other major costs is from our pockets.... that is why there is rise in taxes and promotions of the lottery and other ways to get the money through tax returns of every citizen to pay it back..... plus google search is not enough... these colleges are paying online credible sites to promote more of its lies/ads and shut down sites that talk badly of the schools..... with your and my and everyone's money to fool more students to sign up for their schools..... its a vicious cycle...

[@BobTheBob647]

Quietsoul180 I'm not interested in telling teens/adults how to spend their money. Give them the resources, and let them make their decision. And student debt is the only type of debt that doesn't clear even with bankruptcy. Let them make their decision.

[@HollowHill17]

+Andy Le well at least you get to pay higher taxes for it instead

[@GhostGrind]

All colleges are there to turn a profit, even state colleges. Many "For-Profit" colleges have gotten better in the last years. The worse ones have shut down.

[@ChrisMorgan86]

Community college and For profit University you should definitely avoid.