Forbidden Demons of Chaos TECH | Demons of Chaos vs Beastmen - Total War Warhammer 3

[@markmoran160]

The worst part about your videos is being fully caught up and having no self-control to not watch the newest one. Thanks for all your content Turin!!

[@turinRTS]

Appreciate it!!

[@CaptainLanky26]

Me, casually refreshing Turin's page every lunch break 😢

[@florians9949]

When you are facing a joint effort between Nurgle and Tzeench: *visible confusion*

[@nialltealeaf275]

The Father knows the desire to forgive his Eldest Brother may contradict the whole "total war" thing, but since when haven't the Four Gods of Chaos worked together against common foes, though?

[@consolescrub4031]

Just as planned *laughs in Big Bird*

[@florians9949]

@@nialltealeaf275 the first great invasion of chaos. The one that reckt the lizerdmen empier and saw the elves creating the vortex.

[@ashisunblade]

When mortal souls are on the menu, Chaos is all too happy to team up!

[@LeTrioMen]

would love basic beginners guide to multiplayer battles. you seem real knowledgeable on how each faction plays and proper counters and formations for your armies.

[@victorhugofeitosa2908]

The neo picture is amazing 😂👏

[@rafaelfrade1528]

Turin always on point with the thumbnails 😂😂😂

[@vincida7432]

Great match up, forgot what was the difference between WOC and DOC in mp xD

[@eyeoftomato9547]

Theres something hilarious about the horror cackling in the background during the intro, kinda reminds me of the little brother from that one Nickelodeon show about the girl who can talk to animals

[@austinbishop7430]

I was so sad in my Khorne campaign when I found out the soul grinder doesn’t shoot. Took forever to get.

[@stormrunner4081]

It technically shoots but it’s insanely hard to use

[@Nubloot]

He shoots, you just kinda don’t get to tell him what to shoot at though.

[@quint3ssent1a]

KHORNE grinder does shoot, but it has no dedicated "stand and shoot" button, lol. It's shooting is supposed to be something he does while on his way into melee, so it's short-ranged and, as I mentioned, he doesn't have "shoot" button.

[@liamcullen3035]

I would love to see Daemons of Chaos used more often in multiplayer matches! Keep up the good work Turin! I imagine they’ll be getting more powerful with each of the next 4 DLCs, as each of those features a daemon faction. They could change a lot over the next two years!

[@Karmolicious]

The lord cackling in the background at the start kinda sounds like Gilbert Gottfried lol

[@arcadius2569]

Really cool to see the synergies and plays. And man, razorgor losing to nurglings, that is embarrassing.

[@Anvilarm07]

I am currently playing the Tzeetch campaign and really enjoying it. Usually I play good guys.

[@TheOriginalFishPond]

Is that herald missing his disk?

[@Amonabus]

Yeah, first time I've ever seen that bug.

[@snowdawn]

Gg man. Always fun to watch your total war warhammer 3 commentary. :)

[@hounddogzepp]

The smooth FPS still surprises me!

[@Lirsant357]

Plaguebearers have 30 armor and 20% phys resist. It's like 70 armor total against ungors. It's not that bad.

[@MrFartquad]

Where is your math? At most thats 50ish armor, 35-50% base damage resist

[@GodIsMyRudder]

This decides me. Making a nurgle spore druid tomorrow morning.

[@quint3ssent1a]

Ah yes, the famous "double cyberdemon" strat.

[@GodIsMyRudder]

Also, lol at "grind souls in their spare time"

[@CptCh4os]

I'm a noob but Daemons should be incredible. A Nurgle frontline, Khornate and Slaaneshi flanking units depending on how grindy or fast and shocky you wanna go and Tzeentch for ranged support. Two of the most powerful lore of magic in the game. Probably half of the top 10 best single entities in the game. What's not to love?

[@consolescrub4031]

I can't claim to be an expert but it's kind of a case of the faction being "Jack of all trades, master of none". You kind of want some of the more elite units to get some value against tougher opponents and to hold the line. The faction abilities for the monogods can also be pretty good along with their legendary lords which can be pretty compelling for a reason to play monogod over daemons of chaos. Ku'gath for example is a problem where he needs to be shot down or he will basically hold a point by himself or kill the centrepiece of your army unless you can run them away.

[@xandroy1273]

​@@consolescrub4031what, you don't think red ulgur is a good lord? XD

[@consolescrub4031]

@@xandroy1273 Oh he's the best lord. Right next to Khazrak.

[@CptCh4os]

@@consolescrub4031 That's the point though. Those Daemon units are all masterful at what they do aren't they? What better shock cav than Skullcrushers or Heartseekers? What better frontliners than Plaguebearers? What better ranged power than Flamers of Tzeentch?

[@WarHatter7242]

They have some weaknesses. Everything has phys resist and almost nothing has armor, meaning magic damage counters your army. Daemonic Instability is rough. Stating that they have the best single entities in the game is quite the stretch. Probably the only one that is considered competitively good is the SG of Nurgle. Maybe an Exalted Lord of Change.

[@AverySadBear]

I really hope dogs of war (if we get them) are just the demons of chaos for human factions. (+ halfings)

[@cheddar1554]

Didn't know it was based on Lord damage, thanks for the tip!

[@Slithy]

i don't think beastmen really have a great way out of this with an infantry-focused build - you could have blue/pink fire, potentially exalted plaguebearer grenades, slaanesh AP stuff for bestigors, flamers, all the tools.

[@Chocolouf]

The Beastmen player failed to support the minos with his cannon fodder ungors. Wouldn't using chariots be more impactful than razorgors herds, in this instance, as they would disorganize the plaguebearers ranks, stop the blues from shooting and add more mobile threats for the screamers to care about so the minos can grind longer? It seems focusing on mobility would play more to the Beastmen's forces instead of trying to grind it out.

[@Supercohboy]

Chariots are too flimsy to be reliably used in PvP imo, there are some exceptions like RoRs and war sleds, but all it takes is for a chariot to get randomly caught onto random debris and it's toast. There are other replays that make use of the Beastmen's speed though, you can find that playstyle in ample supply.

[@tomblack2064]

How does one use Razorgor herds? Ive never understood what im supposed to do with them. I know they're meant to be used like a shock unit, however they dont ever seem to pay for themselves when i use em

[@fridericusrex6289]

Really? They always perform really well for me. You want to charge them against high value armored targets, ideally which also have armor piercing. It can be against both cavalry and infantry. You also want to attack already fighting units, if you have ungors under razorgors that helps a lot. Whole beastmen faction is about swarming with mobility, so do that with them as well. After charge bonus wears off you ideally pull back, but most of the time they rampage anyways.

[@adamtrotter9612]

Ignore me! Just here to post a comment to improve the algorithm. Highly enjoyable as always!

[@deknof3396]

the thumnailgame toptier once again

[@Lothi66]

Why DoC are weak? They have 4 faction roster.

[@nialltealeaf275]

Unlike WoC, who have inexpensive chaff to fill out roster slots, DoC end up having all of the expensive Chaos Units with no Cultist Marauders and Cultist Gladiators to serve as cannon fodder for engagements with numbers-heavy factions (like Orcs 'N Gobbos, Skaven); especially since the lowly Imperial Pikeman can fell the Chaos Spawn spam that permeates High-Level PvP due to the imminent need for a Anvil for the cool units to Hammer into.

[@bortoo6634]

DoC are weak because of a number of factors: - very Lord reliant because of the unique mechanic wich only works if your Lord is doing damage; - few cheap options wich are all chaff; - very little armor, meaning all of the hoster is very vulnerable to missles and direct charges; - low range on most missles, meaning they get easily outshot; - only expensive monster artilhery, wich gets outtraded by other dedicated artilhery; - few anti large options, most of wich are very expensive; - very expensive heroes, meaning its harder to suport your Lord; - Limited acess to healing (only lore of nurgle, wich is gated behind low damage lords and very expensive heroes); - demon instability can be a big disadvantage if your oponent exploits its weakeneses well enought

[@Sabertooth281]

Try all 4 soulgrinders xDDDD

[@regulusm1518]

GG

[@toxic_cowZ]

as a beastmen player myself with easily 100+ games ive never taken that lord lol i think he is straight booty cheeks and i would rather unsummon my lord than have him, i have heard some people like him but i just dont get it.

[@bigsarge2085]

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[@metalmaniac345]

Beastmen need a buff so bad, not even close

[@Zovereign]

Did they nerf Be'lakor?