Forced to RIP OUT Our Own Install!

[@artisanelectrics]

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[@annakissed3226]

What really is not ideal, is you haven't mentioned the new Electrical Safety Pros KZbin channel on your channel! Given your emphasis on doing electrical work correctly. Is that an oversight?

[@strykeback5473]

@artisanelectrics - cool video, great to see the changes over such a short period of time... but feel its my duty as one of those "security types" to highlight that blurring on videos is not actually destructive. i can be reversed, so if blanking out location or personal details on an app or screen, you are better using a big white or black box during editing! love the videos keep it up!

[@simon8864]

It's always nice working for someone that wants the best that money can buy and is happy for you to take a little more time to do a really neat job. It makes the job so much more satisfying 👍

[@TrevelyanOO6]

Missing an important point about off-grid. Most Solar and Battery inverters must sync their frequency with the grid. Frequency, Supply, and demand (or load) are tightly related with each other and really important to grid management. With no grid frequency to follow the inverter shuts down. So you either need a special inverter or the gateway needs to simulate the grid. I assume in this system the magic is in the inverter, so its definitely super critical to not have other inverters on the off-grid side, hence the “smart” port on the gateway that they should have used.

[@Pats-Shed]

I have a Solis 1Ph 5KW hybrid inverter and it has a separate backup supply outlet and it is able to maintain a very reliable 50Hz . Remember that the grid will shift frequency slightly over a day but is engineered to average 50Hz over 24Hrs which originally was to keep timeclocks accurate as they used an A/C motor to drive them.

[@TheRonskiman]

I have a Victron Quattro, which has built in transfer relays. The inverter constantly tries to alter the frequency, but it can't because the grid is stronger, when it can, it means the grid is down. Very clever, most assume it's simply measuring voltage, but of course that would mean it would potentially measure it's own and couldn't tell the grid has gone. The Quattro when in off grid mode can also alter the frequency to either reduce or turn off an AC connected separate inverter.

[@wilsjane]

@@TheRonskiman When running off grid, do you use a separate earth to replicate the 3 phase star-point, Or do you use a PME configuration from the existing earths.

[@TheRonskiman]

@@wilsjane Not sure what you mean by 3 phase star point, but we only have single phase and have a seperate earth rod for when off grid. If the grid is down we must not use the grid earth, as it could potentially either be disconnected, or it could electrocute someone working on it.

[@Eleven.Eleven.1111]

Just a note anyone criticising this person for upgrading a 2 year old system, remember he is employing people like us and not hiding money in the cayman islands. In fact, this should be encouraged.

[@janwillem6953]

I wanted to be outraged with the idea off ripping it out but the careful removal, resale changes that. I assume at a financial loss using the old (ROI) equation. But there is a new equation, with a revised set of needs. And it it is clearly not all about ROI, the ability to be off-grid, love of exploring tech possibilities, and a pleasurable installation experience has to mean something. I am grateful that this has been shared. Who knows but the overall economic activity including KZbin revenue and the positive development in Africa makes me more cautious how I choose to judge others.

[@SteveR-w1q]

I know they charge a few quid but not that much😀😀

[@Chris-hw4mq]

Only a moron would throw away 2 year old batteries and people who hide money in cayman islands are more smart than you @Eleven.Eleven.1111 and they dont pay tax on it like the poor people. If you legally can do a move to protect your money from tax good for them

[@acidrain99]

@@jukeseyablethey literally said the system is being reused by someone else.

[@Chris-hw4mq]

@@jukeseyable relax there are slaves who mine those.

[@yanik007]

When it comes to cable pulling, "it's better to be looking at it rather than looking for it!" Same slogan for wine....

[@TheYohtube]

I always quote that one

[@bills6946]

Before you rush out and sign up for a battery back up or buy it and install it yourself, two things to research. One, check with your local electrical inspector to see if you are permitted to install it in a dwelling. Some areas do not allow them in residential dwellings because of fire risk. Two. Check with your homeowner’s insurance company. Some are charging a higher rate to have them because of the fire risk. If you ignore both items and have a fire, your insurance company can deny the claim and if someone is injured or is killed, you could be criminally charged.

[@wiedapp]

Thanks for mentioning the ConduCisc, even if you didn't use it in this case. Here in Germany that thing is not known by any means (no source to get it from and if I'd have to guess, not code compliant, because no one knows it), here we do classical rod whacking, if not even drilling, when the underground is too rocky. That thing would be a total game changer in some cases.

[@marymadigan9707]

Nice work guys great to see all the old guys missed them 😊

[@artisanelectrics]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Mobile_Dom]

seeing Rueben go from "sir, can i go to the toilet" to "oi mate, im going for a piss, see you in 15" has been so funny, nice to see his progress though

[@artisanelectrics]

He is almost there now! Progress going very well and on track!

[@judebrown4103]

Shout out to UKPN they're turning off the power in our local area tomorrow all day to fix some sort of unit on a telegraph pole. I get special notifications as a vulnerable customer and their attention has been excellent. They've sent a remote WiFi device, which I didn't even ask for but it means my wife can work from home and not leave me to cope on my own. In the morning they're bringing round a power bank, doubt if it'll boil a kettle but I should be able to use less thirsty appliances and have some light as it's so gloomy. It should help make a stressful day less so.

[@artisanelectrics]

Glad to hear UKPN is taking good care of you! The remote WiFi and power bank sound super helpful. Hope the power's back quickly.

[@RiderGSA72]

I hope you don't mind me sharing your video via my blog, I was just really impressed by your recycling of the old Solar Panels, not that the install you did wasn't just as impressive, having seen a few of your videos, I am always impressed by the care and attention to detail, its great to see proper tradesmen that actually care about the job they do.

[@jaars911]

Here in South Africa, dont know if it is county wide or just some municipality but we got a message that if we want to install solar we need to apply for something cant remember what and then they would send an inspector to location and when approved and installation is done they would send someone to install the meter, I guess its the meter that measures how much you feed back into the grid because they mentioned about getting discount on your municipal account and even some that already have solar needs to go register online

[@thk4711]

For places like this Victron would be also somthing to considder because it's modular and you can expand the system without replacing everything.

[@cjmillsnun]

Jordan, you need to insist that they wear half masks when cutting board with a circular saw like that. Silica dust is deadly.

[@GraemeHart8888]

I came here to make the same comment. Anyone nearby to the board being cut needs an appropriate mask.

[@M0PAX]

@@GraemeHart8888 i have said this many times in comments must hate lungs COPD later

[@daniboy0812]

@@cjmillsnun Hover attachment to the expensive circular saw lol. Ballistic ear protection is really good too and can’t believe no one has thought of it past the military - no need to take them off when people are talking. Expensive but I’m sure worth it

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks yeah good reminder 👍

[@Sparks0505]

If they have a beard should be full face mask!

[@elvisburgerking8675]

so let's put this into perspective one guys old power system for his house in the UK now powers 2 villages in Africa. !

[@mainlineelectronics5266]

Is the 40 ohm RA of your earth rod good enough to protect the cables in the case of a L to E fault ? If the I assume TN earth is lost.

[@craigpalatchie2607]

single phase gate way. the contactors are they 20 amps or is that just the rating on the relay controlling the contactor, any info much appreciated

[@ForTheBirbs]

Nice work team! As you mentioned, Jordan, the delay in reconnecting grid power is to allow for stable power supply. A grid fault could have auto-reclosers operate 2 or 3 times if a fault isn't cleared. Cheers

[@artisanelectrics]

Great point!

[@kawazukisoddbits2717]

Query - why replace the 'new' system and not the 20kw MyEnergi 1ph system? I thought the ME system was the bee-knee's when I was making a choice, unfortunately, in my opinion, its not living up to its hype - a lot of which came from Artisan!

[@chrisfox8125]

What you using as your fault protection when using the earth rod?

[@EsotericArctos]

I was taught to always include a "service loop" in cables, so I have always done that. It just gets factored in when pricing a job.

[@heatpump8566]

Great to see the old style work vids back. Haven’t watched for a while. Well done for listening to the fans.

[@artisanelectrics]

Glad you like them! More videos like this will be coming

[@DrSteveGames]

Good to see proper work videos again. Not watched in a while due to that, well done for listening to your supporters 👏

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks 🙏

[@TheFlow2006]

24:25 did you say 40 ohms? isn´t that a bit high for an earth? (ok i know in theory 1667ohms is enough if a 30mA RCDis installed) i always look to get at least under 10 ohms or even under 5 but maybe it is different in britain than here in germany

[@michaeldifelice3775]

Can the gateway be install with an already exting solar & battery system or does the whole setup need to be the same brand.

[@jim.franklin]

Jordan, I was taught as an apprentice (1983-1987) - "Better to look at it than for it" when it came to cable length. One question of the UPS - a lot of power failures are not always full failure, often they are "brown outs" where you lose a single phase or two phases - sometimes a fault on the local network will cause a partial phase failure (reduce phase voltage) - the question I have, does the UPS in this system detect brown outs and trip to battery backup until the supply is fully stable as happens with commercial UPS systems - I'm used to working on 3 phase UPS systems starting at about 150kW up to over 2.2MW, also, is it possible to add in a generator as an emergency backup if the failure is sufficient to run the batteries down but the solar is not able to recharge in time? (Not everyone may have a system this big)

[@Andrew-su3wt]

Why is the bus bar in that gateway not insulated? I have asked this before in one of your videos, I can’t think of any un insulated bus bars in panels I work on apart from bus bar chambers

[@sampsonike]

Question about the gateway. Is the other 4 pole mcb next to the mains one for a generator backup? Also is there a way of sensing if the distribution network is down (maybe some maintenance) and you should not backfeed into it? Islanding? Then automatically turn the mcb off. And is there no interlock between the mains mcb and the potential generator mcb? GREAT VIDEO! thanks.

[@sampsonike]

All right you answered it later. It is the smart port. But the generator still. Should that go to the "backup" mcb then?

[@dingbatbell01]

I've bought a property in Sicily and planning on putting solar in. What would something like that cost to buy and install?

[@NickAskew]

We have a mid terrace 3 phase house. We are in the Netherlands and it is not that uncommon to have 3 phase. I'd love to go for Sigenergy, but I keep hearing it is very expensive. We have delivered about 2400kWh and used about 2100kWh but would like a system that would store generated power for evening use and be able to work automatically to make good use of variable tariffs without needing to constantly be looking at an app. We have an ageing charge port for the car but if necessary we could switch to support vehicle to load if that makes sense.

[@112Dongen]

Het ziet er exact het zelfde uit als het haier systeem. Mogelijk dat je daar naar kunt kijken.

[@NickAskew]

@112Dongen Inderdaad bijna dezelfde concept. So what is being said here is that a make called haier are creating a similar looking modular system. I did not dig deep or look at prices but I probably should.

[@112Dongen]

@@NickAskew ik denk zelfs dat het exact de zelfde techniek is met een andere afwerking en naam. De accus zien er gelijkend uit en de gateway ook. Alleen de randafwerking is anders. Kijk maar eens de filmpjes van de solarbouwmarkt. Waarin ze het haier systeem installeren.

[@alexrakhshani7588]

Did this go through under a G99 application, i would have thought this would've needed to be a G100 ELS application, looks like an AC coupled system with 3rd party DC coupled, maximum power station capacity is huge here so i imagine an ELS scheme is a must?

[@barrieshepherd7694]

I've only got a Tesla Powerwall 3 and the DNO is wanting G100 - and has so far taken 6 weeks and counting to approve.

[@alexrakhshani7588]

@@barrieshepherd7694 quickest way is to submit a G99 fast track application, they’ll come back to you saying it’ll need to be G100, amend your application and send it straight back.

[@kentmccroskey3712]

568A or 568B, the B does not stand for Britain, and is actually more commonly used in the US, in the rest of the world 568A is more commonly used. however either method being used doesn't actually matter as long as you use the same on either end of the cable. this makes it a straight cable, which is between computers and switches. if you wish to make a Crossover cable you need to make one end 568A and the other end 568B, this enables you to directly connect a Computer to another computer, or a switch to a switch. this isn't really required now as the majority of network ports are auto sensing and will negotiate a connection either way around (Straight or Crossover), but in yesteryear you had to be more mindful of the difference between using a crossover or straight cable. so if you attempt to make a cable and connect it between two devices it might be an idea to switch one end to the other standard just in case it's not using autosense.

[@barrieshepherd7694]

😊 He did say he used B to remind him - not because that is what it means

[@timballam3675]

A to b not a crossover makes as only swaps over one pair.

[@kentmccroskey3712]

@@timballam3675 568A and 568B crosses two pairs, it most certainly makes a crossover cable.

[@AlexanderBurgers]

never in my life seen an A to A cable anywhere in the world. Everyone uses B, unless they're making a crossover A to B cable, which have been obsolete for nearly 2 decades all on their own.

[@kentmccroskey3712]

@@AlexanderBurgers never in my life have I ever seen anybody inspect a cable to see if it's A or B, does it work. but when building systems in the various countries I have worked and their have been many we have deployed A. but it really doesn't matter. some systems still require crossovers, auto mdix is usually the norm now but for some stuff they still haven't caught on.

[@stevenrobinson5864]

2:30 in and I don't know, stream lined all in one is all good and that but there has to be something said for modular when things go wrong.

[@v0idgrim]

I can here to approve this message. I build network and server infrastructure for a living and modularity is the key feature for any system that you want. Single units might look nicer but it’s a hassle to quickly service/replace.

[@tonywebb9909]

Another great vid Jordan. I have been installing Sigen in Ireland for nearly a year now. It is top shelf gear for sure. My few worries about the 3TPN gateways are... Cannot reverse the door! Although i did once and had to make blank plates to cover slots, messy. I worry about having a contactor pulled in under normal conditions, have seen a few let go under high florescent lighing loads in the past. I worry about switching backup earth with contactors. My solution to these things are to offer a service level contract for parts and labour, or to use the load input 2 to connect a generator, you can auto switch it through the anologue outputs using the smart port to monitor batteries. So its not a project for the faint hearted. Well done.

[@inh415]

Local earth shouldnt be swithed via the contactor, just the earth neutral bond

[@tonywebb9909]

@inh415 yes, neutral is grounded by the backup contactor. Island mode is a complicated thing, especially when you have a backup generator that has neutral bond at its star point. Two neutral bonds are bad news!

[@LogitecUK]

I've been retired for a while, but are 3-phase supplies still costly? A friend told me they had binned a 3-phase supply to a large house in Westminster. They could do this because they decommissioned several megaflo systems they had for the house.

[@theelectricmonk3909]

QQ: Are there any (3-phase) battery/solar systems which will work entirely isolated from the grid? I'm planning a house move next year, and will be building a workshop on-site, and I have a fair few 3-phase machines I'd like to use - but I don't want the aggro of getting a 3-phase supply installed at a domestic property - and the machines will be used relatively lightly, so a battery "backup" system would seem ideal, but only if it can be used standalone. I do have a 3-phase diesel generator I could use, but it would seem a shame to use that when the sun can likely give me all the power I'll ever need. (I'm also aware of single-to-three-phase converters - which would also be an option)

[@AlexanderJuholaJones]

Without a doubt. Victron!

[@PatriciaSawyer-ot4us]

Hi Guys. Question? If you install more than one main earth rod around a property, and out buildings etc, doesn't that cause a problem?

[@MartinBarker]

In RJ45 connectors It is Standard that you use the B-Method everywhere for straight thought (so to a router or a switch), when to use Type-A method is if your doing a Computer to Computer link, one end is Type-A the other end is Type-B this crosses the cables over inside the CAT cable, it's called a Crossover cable. (i am a network admin who frequently installs network cables), nowadays most systems (NIC's) actually detect and switch to the other type in the hardware to stop problems

[@danielgeerts7928]

I have a Victron Energy Multiplus2 system 3 phase and have used full house backup for years. Also with victron you do not need a contactor as the power is already separated inside the victron and isolated from the grid. a Victron system once you have it, you do not look back.

[@CigarsAndSauce]

This might be a stupid question, but do you have to "drain down" batteries before you remove them?

[@KarlHamilton]

Was thinking the same

[@andyxox4168]

No you don’t but they have to be off load when disconnecting otherwise you get ‘fireworks’ .

[@matthewwest9302]

Great video. Just thinking 🤔 when the system switches over to island mode. The earthing system will become TT? If so you should be add RCD protection for basic protection?

[@drrubi3944]

Very interesting video. I have to say that the Gateway looks very similar to what Huawei are offering with their new SmartGuard box. Also with the Nader MCBs in it that you rarely see anywhere else. Maybe they do have some sort of affiliation with each other? And did i understand you correctly at @22:30 that it is not standard to have a earth rod for the house in the UK? What kind of grid system do you use over there? In Germany we do have an earting system in every house. Usually the public grid is TNC which is split up into TNC-S with the PEN being seperated into PE and N in the service box. After that the PE is connected to either a foundation earth electrode in newer buildings (after +/- 1990) or to a earth rod. How else would you guarantee that the RCD is reacting in below 30 ms when a current has to travel along PE all the way to the transformer and back to the house?

[@kitemanmusic]

@10:16 the Sun looks to be in a strange position, related to the panel orientation. What time of day?

[@davideyres955]

Nice to see the update from the African solar power. Great work Jordan.

[@artisanelectrics]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@efenili]

I thought I was being wasteful updating my phone every year 😄 I supposed there are levels to this. If you have $$ and want the latest and greatest - I suppose its not that different...just another scale. The whole home backup does seem like a significant change for folks who can really utilize it. Bought it from us as second hand? Does the homeowner get all that?

[@artisanelectrics]

You’re absolutely right! We sold this one for the customer which helped offset a bit of the cost.

[@me8042]

It’s like conduit. If 1/2” seems right, use 3/4”. If 3/4” looks right, use 1”. I learned this the hard way.

[@johnbodnar3720]

How many cycles does the second hand battery have, interested to know

[@shoestringsev4529]

For rf45 cables the twisted one is rarely ever used today as it is for directly connecting 2 devices.

[@MrMuckyPaws]

Does the gateway have a built in earth-neutral bond contactor when in island mode?

[@jeremiahkearney5191]

Nice work Jordan, I just have had a PV installation done on my house, (10kw split east west, 10kw battery also, so far although we haven’t any sun in two weeks I am happy, just can’t wait until we get out of this spell of full cloud. Keep up the good work.

[@artisanelectrics]

That is awesome!

[@HA05GER]

Surely you should still producing though. I find mine on cloudy days we have produce between and 15% of capacyduring the day so for.example I have I believe to be a 2kw system and during the dull days we are still producing 200-300w steadily. They are south facing however I have a very shallow roof so angle really isn't optimal for this time of year.

[@jeremiahkearney5191]

@@HA05GER sorry about a late reply. Oh yes the did a little over 3kwh , and yes I am happy enough with that, one day last week I only got 0.6kwh all day but it was extremely dark all that day and heavy rain (50mm), another month and the days will be getting longer, and in 1w months we will know better. Thanks for your comment.

[@HA05GER]

@@jeremiahkearney5191 that's good glad they are going well for you :).

[@HandyC]

An idle thought I've just had with 3 phase systems in residential.... Are the DNO any happier with residential supplies pushing larger kW back to the grid when spread over 3 phases Can you push 3.6kW down each phase and not have to go for a special licence

[@artisanelectrics]

Yes that’s correct 👍

[@grahamdaniel6035]

Nice video. What is the furthest distance you can have the gateway from invertor and batteries?

[@djintact]

Could you confirm that this inverter grounds the neutral of the backup side ?

[@artisanelectrics]

The neutral earth bond relay is located in the gateway, the inverter itself does not have a “backup” or “non backup” side, it just works in harmony with the gateway

[@YeOldeTraveller]

I had an automatic transfer switch on my system that was grid powered. It would connect the house system to the grid after two minutes for just the reason mentioned. This was for a whole house backup system without solar about 25 years ago.

[@Chris-hy6jy]

Like you say, all inverters shutdown when the grid goes down... so why do we need "bi-directional" RCBOs?

[@kevy427]

When an EV is discharging into your home. ‘Car to grid’

[@lewisb.3242]

Because you are sending electricity to the busbar the “wrong way” through the protective device… A uni-directional OCPD is made to operate when electricity is travelling from busbar to load, it is reversed in a solar PV setup. You can also charge the batteries from the grid, which would be going the “right way”.

[@Chris-hy6jy]

​@@lewisb.3242AC current travels in both directions though so the RCBO will still trip regardless of the direction of power transfer. The justification for these devices is so that the "output" side doesn't remain live when the input side is dead. This situation should never arise if the inverter is type approved and shuts down when the grid power goes off.

[@Chris-hy6jy]

​@@kevy427I'm no expert in this application but surely it works the same as a PV inverter. The inverter only generates if the mains connection is live? In which case, no need for a bi-directional RCBO.

[@lewisb.3242]

@ Alternating current does mean that the direction of flow is constantly changing, that doesn’t mean that the direction in which the current is being pushed by the voltage changes or the direction in which the load is drawing the current changes either. Just install bidirectional RCBOs, it doesn’t even cost any more in most circumstances.

[@PieterHarvey]

An additional possible reason the gateway waits before switching back to grid is to ensure for frequency match. If there has been any serious drift in frequency between the grid and the inverter then switch back could be dangerous. Most modern hybrid inverters can adjust frequency so it is likely that the gateway will do this if there has been drift and then initiate the switch back.

[@MCPicoli]

Is it possible to leave this system in an unsafe (or self-destructive) configuration via software configuration or deliberate user action? (It shouldn't be possible, via hardware interlocks)

[@kemots455]

With this job you literally eating cake and having it🎉

[@l33tr4n55]

Nice job, and the note at the end to use SMART PORT > now I know I can add Sigenergy ESS to my existing system

[@mikeselectricstuff]

This shows it's about time we ditched proprietory batteries - it's so stupid to have to replace a large part of the cost of a system (the batteries) because requirements change. Would be better to be able to just replace the inverter/control system, as well as add batteries as required.

[@JackMelqart]

well the inverter was to small anyway, so they had to replace that either way if they want to expand the system, and now days most known brands have solutions, their modular solutions figured out, and have a wide range of ofereings from 5KWh to whatever you need.

[@HA05GER]

You can go down the route of just using basically lifepo4 leisure batteries 1kwh is not around the £200 mark so is very cheap for lithium compared to the purpose made battery.

[@greghudson9717]

I counted 160 solar panels. If they were 300 watts each (like my 6 year old panels) they would have an output of 48kWh not 26 ? Please explain.... Also, what was the install cost ?

[@briansmith2238]

Great video! Is the functionality to limit the export to the grid (as set by the DNO) unique to the SIgenergy inverter or do other manufacturers inverters provide this? ...and how does the set export limit work in terms of over what time period can only that set limit, in the case of the video 40KW, be exported?

[@oddball_the_blue]

So what's happening with the old kit? Could others use the system instead?

[@oddball_the_blue]

Nevermind - got covered later in the video.

[@marcwolf60]

Full house UPS is great. In Australia I have a GoodWE Lynx system with 13kw of panels and a 16kw battery all 3ph It is also a cold start meaning I dont need mains to kiskstart the system from a cold start. We get cyclones which does not help.

[@jojoowumanmensah1733]

Doesn't need any gate stuff he usually talks about...sometimes I think pple in the uk are made to know only a few systems. I have never used a gateway in my life

[@sephjvr5979]

Weird question. What are those pants you gents wear? Love the versatility of the utility pouches on either side.

[@johnbodnar3720]

Proud of you guys for the donation

[@Elmo-wi2wr]

Hi. Great video. What is the largest battery size that the Sigen would support?

[@climbernl]

This Sigenergy system looks 100% like the Haier Smartcube, only the logo differs. Are these two the same, but just sold under a different name?

[@Aepek]

16:59 Standard A RJ45 is usually relegated to Gov’t, Industrial, “Commercial Business” server/ network wiring And Standard B for everything else, and can also use A if want. Also, if have Type A network, can still have Tyoe B patch cables and it will still work fine, no issues…..the inky exception is when using patch cables that are not bidirectional in which case, would want to run Tyoe used for building to get The Best Optimized Speeds/Data Transfer w/o getting errors or packet failures/resends

[@johny7770]

16:55 - the type of wirering depends on the connection between network devices e.g. if they are different which is the most common case you use B and B on both sides or A and A but that's not that common if they are the same you need to use A and B for one and the other side of the cable. To put it simpler same type switch - PC, switch - router. Different switch - switch or router - router

[@johny7770]

* most common for them as electricians that do some networking stuff but they I assume aren't doing network engineering as a whole.

[@tony78652]

What does the libbi battery do?

[@artisanelectrics]

The Libbi battery stores excess solar energy for use later reduces energy costs by charging during off-peak hours, integrates with other MyEnergi devices, and provides backup power during outages.

[@maxfrimond]

@@artisanelectrics But that is what the new system does?

[@andrewknots]

That was fascinating. I’ve just had Solar Edge EBU installed but that takes a significant time to kick in

[@artisanelectrics]

Yeah I’ve seen those online haven’t fitted one yet but not impressed with the switchover time

[@shaunbrosnan220]

It looks so messy in the main switch board room with all the wires running from item to item are they single double insulated or just building wire. A big orange integrated main DB with bus bars could look so pretty

[@kenslx]

Great looking and Smart system. Good job. Question. If the EV's had the capability, could the gateway take power from them as backup batteries?

[@mikebreen2890]

Sure, an EV can power the house. Well, some can.

[@seabream]

Sigenergy has v2h system capability, but currently has limited compatibility. They have a list of compatible vehicles on their website. They're working on expanding that, but I don't know what order they're planning to add new ones to the list in. If you have specific ones in mind, I'd contact them and ask what their expected timelines are.

[@mikebreen2890]

@@seabream Not something I need, but very interesting possibilities with that tech.

[@CyberlightFG]

Can he print a wago container where any lever is a box for a different connector?

[@colmbrowne2788]

Wow, superb video, my two favourite solar component companies in one video, Sigenergy & Myenergi. Sigenergy's knocks it out of the park with the nice spacious gateway and UPS facility. Myenergi's great app with their Eddie & EV chargers that their software can control in such a great customisable manner. Good stuff. I can't understand how anyone would install a system without a gateway. One question I have though, for my future similar setup in Sigenergy biggest single phase version. Is their an option for daul AC input into the inverter or gateway. My second AC supply being my 40 KVA backup diesel generator? Genuine question. Or would a Generator/ Mains automatic transfer switch before the Gateway work equally as well?

[@stuartvidcam1587]

Another great video Jordan. I'm guessing that you wanted to leave the old inverter output untouched and just monitor vi a CT so that a) the sig would itself and be able to differentiate between grid and 'other solar' and adjust charge etc accordingly. b) allow monitoring of the original solar independently. c) allow the old solar to support the new solar in off-grid scenarios. However, it sounds like this does not work... does using the smart port instead provide the same level as intended? Or was there other reasoning?

[@artisanelectrics]

There is only one solar feed coming into the property from the field. This goes into the smart port so that in off grid mode the solar keeps running. The smart port also monitors how much energy is coming in from the solar PV. The new batteries are just AC coupled.

[@pmbpmb5416]

You may have come across this , do you have a solution . Based somewhat on your Sigen install I have gone down that route . At the same time whole house re insulated from roof down , lots of reflective materials . Three phase smart meter installed in plant room which was a garage . Smart meter can not communicate with the external pole which feeds the info back , presumably two problems , too much reflective and lousy area for signals . This can not be an unknown and I assume there is an answer .

[@artisanelectrics]

Yeah you need some way to relay the signal into the house

[@pmbpmb5416]

As I understand It it’s the 3 phase meter itself that can’t talk to the BT poles and it’s already outside the house in the plant room which doesn’t have as much reflective insulation as elsewhere , does have stone walls to contend with , I did wonder if there was a signal booster for the meter though .

[@ChadCourtneyTAZ427]

Yeah, Ethernet B Wiring is standard in most areas of the globe (not B for Britain), in those areas the only time you'll see Ethernet A Wiring used is on one end of a Crossover Cable, the other end would be Ethernet B wiring. This enables it to be used for some very specific testing like loopback testing, and is the reason we have an Ethernet A Wiring and Ethernet B Wiring. That said, technically it would work just fine if both sides were wired Ethernet A, but any standard commercial pre-constructed ethernet cable is going to to be wired using the Ethernet B Wiring, you've basically swapped the White/Green & Green twisted pair with the White/Orange & Orange twisted pair locations in the jack, connectivity wise they're identical with both ends terminate A vs both ends terminated B. Yeah, Australia prefers Ethernet A wiring. But again if you wired both ends as B and plugged connected it to an Australian wired network, it would work just as well, as evidence by the fact that they buy and get tons of pre-terminated ethernet cables that are wired as B and plug it into their networks all the time.

[@complexcomms]

Ethernet A is only used in Australia. Only seen B once at an old university. Main reason being original 4 wire phone systems use pins 4 and 5 (blue and blue/white) for speech and 3 and 6 (orange and orange/white) for data. This is on an RJ45. This means the central 4 pins are in use. Makes sense as colour code for ethernet cable and older Cat3 cable (10 pair cable) is Blue pair, Orange pair, Green pair, Brown pair etc. Bear in mind it does NOT matter which standard you use as long as you have the same at both ends.

[@Svenz0r]

Crossover cables were required pretty much everywhere prior to the introduction of devices that could auto detect and negotiate their network connections. If you plugged two devices together with a straight through cable, they wouldn't do anything because they were both trying to send and receive on the same wires.

[@Rob_Turner_UK]

Would rather see a compliant data cable rated cca minimum.

[@AverageGamer767]

​@complexcomms in new zealand we commonly use a wiring but in schools like uni or polytech they use b

[@keithnsearle7393]

Why not us CAT 6 cable, or is that too expensive?

[@valium20008]

40 ohms for earthing is acceptable in uk? In Eastern Europe we need 4 ohms

[@bigjd2k]

21:50 just wincing in case that screwdriver tip makes contact with 2 of those bare busbars!!

[@gubbernl]

And his knuckles hitting that busbar😢 Where are your safety standards Jordan!

[@christheother9088]

Usually these guys talk with their hands. Nerve wracking!

[@Mikey.M.V.P.1]

I Love these types of videos it's great to see & we all need more on site installation content great job Artisan Electrics

[@artisanelectrics]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@harveyn5209]

Im english but moved to germany a few years ago , did my apprenticeship here too but all in german, i find it so interesting seeing whats standard practice there. those bus bars are totally different than to here. great install though , would love to give all this a go. when you started installing sig energy products had you been to some seminar showing the product first?

[@rhyspoore5814]

As a young electrician who is about to go through with mcs assessment, I would love a video to see how you test and commission some of your work. Feel it's a process that doesn't get shown often

[@oninbridders]

RJ45 A is used for creating cross over cables which were for direct PC to PC connections without a Hub/Switch. Most network cables auto detect the transmit/receive pins so no longer needed.

[@frozendude707]

Also for uplink connections, switch to switch. There is some enterprise kit that does not work well with MDI-X, but if you are working with that stuff you are probably already CCNA or N+ certified, so nothing a sparky needs to worry about. 👍

[@ehsnils]

EIA 568A in one end, EIA 568B in the other to make a crossover. If you have RJ45 with EIA 568A (or EIA 568B) in both ends all you get is a straight cable.

[@markbourke7879]

Ruben with a barely legal knife = outstanding episode!

[@artisanelectrics]

😂

[@Aerogamer158]

T568B or the B pinout is adapted from AT&T. But it is the one that everyone uses today so there's that. The other one was the old way but created problems when connecting PC to PC because of power pin locations.

[@FormallyknownasE100]

@artisanelectrics I really love these videos and been watching a number over the past few months to the point where I am now contemplating getting a solar and battery install. Unfortunately I live a bit too far from your base for you to be the go to choice! I just wondered if you (or others in the comments) could recommend any installers in the North East (Newcastle upon Tyne) area at all?

[@YouzY666]

Using solar for watering crops is a neat fit. If the sun isnt shining, you probably don't need as much water anyway

[@Percy-c5v]

No problem with this PROVIDING the old system is being recycled by either passing it on to another customer or it’s able to be recycled fully. (As it is 👍)

[@rosco1024training]

WoW. Total Envy. You should be paying him. Nice Job.

[@RobAldred]

I mean they clearly have money so I guess they don't care about replacing a two year old system, just seems a bit extreme. we just have a change over switch and we have the whole house running off grid. Would that not work here? Because of three phase?

[@HandyC]

When did "changeover" switches become "gateways" I guess you can charge more if it has a fancy name

[@DozIT]

Not certain but I imagine it has to do with response time. An old school ATS takes 5-10s (after generator is online and ready), gateways are ‘instant’ not quite UPS grade instant, but you likely won’t see the switch over - some sensitive networking equipment may reboot

[@McOw123]

A changeover switch lets you run from batteries. A gateway will allow you to continue generating solar too (no gateway = PV inverter will shut down until gris comes back)

[@artisanelectrics]

Haha true

[@DerekEmerson]

What does an install like that cost?

[@darrenglynn597]

Yes I understand what you are on about. You could say the one you put it was like a prototype. Then next replace it with a smaller more powerful one. As the old model was big and bulky.

[@johnbodnar3720]

Please explain exposed busbar?

[@petereriksson4405]

Swede here. Its "Hultaforce". Try out the Morakniv Elkniv if you can get it. Superior knife in my opinion, especially working with larger cables

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks for the recommendation

[@martinhansen6802]

Fuck me... No wonder i constantly think that i got ripped off when having my solar installed two years ago. Good info on the intro. Puts my mind at ease.

[@johnbodnar3720]

How many battery fires you seen and do you know why