Ford Escort RS Cosworth VS Ford Fiesta ST | Fifth Gear

[@DH.91]

The fiesta could've done the lap twice as fast and I'd still have the Escort

[@Wargwarn]

So would I. Then sell it, buy a Fiesta and pocket the rest. The Fiesta is better in every way.

[@niyazahmed2165]

@@Wargwarn loooool

[@wass006]

Same

[@gtaluvr1992]

@@Wargwarn are you on drugs or just stupid?

[@getthecansin]

@@Wargwarn🤣🤣 you miss the point

[@stuartxrp451]

Cossie has that whale tail so it automatically wins

[@elazotacunaos4752]

Terribly ugly as hell wing

[@poosh6529]

Makes it stand out from a regular escort. The St's styling is more conservative

[@halohunter5217]

It already stands out as an Escort, because it's really a Sierra.

[@tedmalley7636]

That's right...that whale tale wing guarantees it will win every time..!

[@psygnosis666]

@@halohunter5217 escort cossie only shares the sierra sapphire Cosworth floor pan which and is actually shorter.

[@RedDevilGaming88]

I'd still have the cossie

All day every day.

[@Shane-zx4ps]

Yeah I’d love the slower car too.🤪

[@Flying_GC]

@@Shane-zx4ps yes because the Cosworth was really running at max potential in stock guise 🙄

[@Shane-zx4ps]

oldpilot nz so was the 1.5 3 cylinder fiesta, how times have moved on

[@bmwman1981]

Bapster Man how long do you think the eco boom will last. Going by how many have had to have replacement engines

[@andyborrett227]

Considering the Cossie is 27 years older than the ST i think 3.5 seconds slower is respectable. I would have the cossie any day. A car ahead of its time and a favorite of mine.

[@CFox.7]

Not to mention you could give it a little bit of a modern tune ;)

[@cameronmilne3590]

3.5 seconds is a pasting mate...

[@LorenzoClara97]

3.5 sec on a 1.20ish lap is a fucking lot!

[@krazyjApAn]

Agreed, 3.5 seconds after 27 years of “improvement” I would still take the Escort over the Fiesta for fun, but as a car to live with would definitely be the Fiesta

[@James-ns6jm]

considering price difference in cars and inflation. The cossie just got compared to a much much cheaper car. Compare it to something similarly priced in todays age like a focus RS 350BHP AWD which is still cheaper never mind taking into inflation. Yea the cossie lost by alot.

[@idin1976]

What tires were the cossie on? 19y/o all seasons? Or identical?

[@Alistair89]

Clutching at straws a bit aren't you.

[@Franksey180]

@@Alistair89 I think he makes a fair point. Would be nice to have them on the same age / brand rubber for the test, makes a big difference when pushing hard.

[@jimmybob3756]

I also wondered that, I am guessing that the Fiesta is heavier than the Escort.

[@Franksey180]

@@jimmybob3756 Escort has 4wd which usually makes for a weighty car so maybe they are a similar weight?

[@jimmybob3756]

Yes I know that Franksey but the Fiesta is overloaded with safety junk like all new cars....I really don't know.

[@tracktimevideos5164]

Needs a Ford megatest with all the STs and RSs on road and track.

[@gassx7778]

It’s 2019 but fifth gear still looks like it belongs on Dave.

[@ABLO_dnb]

😂

[@strkr7876]

Could be cuz it seems like fake top gear lol

[@rdevil25]

I would still have the Escort Cosworth.

[@CFG39]

It’s such a shame Ford stupidly dropped the Fiesta and Focus from the US market. I would’ve snatched up a new Fiesta ST or Focus ST in a heartbeat. Instead I had to go elsewhere for my car thrills

[@aaryeshg.6526]

They instead made an Explorer ST (and Edge ST too it I'm right) for US cause SUV is what sells. (Yes Ik it's still a dumb decision by Ford but in their minds atleast, SUVs are the trend 🤦‍♂️).

[@JamieR1988]

@@aaryeshg.6526 SUVs are for mums. And mum's buy the most cars. So it made perfect financial sense for Ford to do that. Just a shame that they didn't think about the male population lol.

[@tadassmolskas3014]

Jamie Reid In America all the average person wants is a pickup or suv while others who care more about their cars or want more flashy car will buy a German car. Ford is simply catering to their market they are a business after all. They would drop any car from their lineup if it meant they make more money. They care about what the majority want rather than the minority which is what makes them the most as they make small profit margins for each car sale so must sell huge amounts.

[@vr-bob]

So where did you find your thrill?

[@PedroFTeixeira]

I30N

[@GLKCARSCENE]

New vs Old . No surprise , But which one would you want(Ford Escort RS Cosworth all the Way!!!

[@StephenButlerOne]

As much as I loved escorts, I'd take a MK 2/3 xr3i over the cossie. And for sheer fun I'd have last years st200 fiesta. Don't trust the new 3cly longterm just yet.

[@mosthated863]

Cosworth Ofcourse

[@StephenButlerOne]

@ nostalgia.

[@halohunter5217]

I would go RS500 instead, prefer RWD. The Fiesta is a great car though!

[@yannnique17]

Cossie

[@ericksanchez7787]

Even though I will forever love the escort rs but you have to give the fiesta props for how quick it is, the first gen focus rs could not beat the cosworth around this track and the fiesta st did just shows how technology advances

[@SskDrift]

Still the escort my dream car 😍 make me smile every time I see one

[@patrickkershaw4885]

Dream car would be the RS200.

[@FAT8893]

@@patrickkershaw4885 A real Group B car, that is.

[@skarceoneafd9609]

Me to 👍🙏🏼

[@halohunter5217]

I want a GT90... The GT Ford should've released.

[@Wutse]

it was my dreamcar untill i steppid in a Sierra RS Cosworth , sold my cossie & bought one of those , been loving it ever since

[@SA-zoom1]

That is a small turbo cosworth, runs out of puff pretty quick. The original motorsport edition is faster 0-60 and mid range, much more lag but definitely faster. Also this car with the FTW plate has been hammered around for years by journalists. Not really impressed by the fiesta. In the same way the cossie would have destroyed any ferrari from the 1970's the same way the fiesta beats a 25 year old cossie with saggy old suspension (leans like a boat). Forgot to add the very same car (escort) destroyed a mk1 focus rs in a head to head timed lap with VBH behind the wheel and that was 15 years ago wonder if they have completely refurbished the mechanicals since or just serviced it every few years??

[@Adam151082]

Cosworth though!!! 😍👌🏼 Put them on a gravel track and see who wins. The Escort was designed for rally not track 😊👍🏼 It would be interesting to see a track based Cosworth, like a RS500 against a Fiesta. Still, very entertaining video 😊👌🏼

[@resnonverba137]

The very fact that you are suggesting putting a Fiesta against a car from classes above only concretes how good the current Fiesta ST is.

[@vapour80]

@@resnonverba137 i think you failed to understand the statement. the escort was made for rally so lose surfaces was its main focus. the RS500 was made for concrete like the fiesta. power wise the RS500 is the same as the escort cosworth at best and 20bhp less at worst depending on which year RS500

[@frenchtoast-d7u]

I don’t think that a Sierra RS500 would do any better than the Escort. Sure it might be a tad lighter, but suspension and brakes are very similar. The roadgoing RS500’s real downside (in stock form) is the turbo. It’s very oversized for the stock 224 hp, so much so that it’s big enough for +450 hp. So it has a ton of turbolag and a narrow powerband.

[@resnonverba137]

@@vapour80 I understood it, thank you.

[@vapour80]

@@resnonverba137 Then it's me that doesn't understand your comment. He wasn't suggesting to put it up against a car classes above it. its actually a "better" test due to most RS500's being 204bhp and the fiesta 196bhp and both cars focused on tarmac rather then a 224bph lose surface vs 196bhp tarmac

[@deanfarrissey3143]

Escort has it won at the start line with that beauty tho

[@sosacosworth]

The Fiesta ST has been the fastest and most efficient, but the Escort Cosworth is still the most beautiful, spectacular and iconic. An authentic legend of motor racing. I love it!

[@yetigogo9557]

In next 25 years nobody will remember Fiesta ST but Escort Cosworth still will cose fester hart's beat

[@johndickinson5422]

Why will no one remember the st ..people still remember the xr2 ..

[@FAT8893]

@@johndickinson5422 Because there always will be a new successor for the ST the following year.

[@bones6978]

@@FAT8893 I remember the Mk 6 and mk 7.5 ST so why won't i remember the Mk 8?

[@chirpywiggins5796]

The Fiesta ST is already considered one of the best Fast Fords ever produced! Trust me, it will be remembered !!

[@DanCollinsPersonal]

I’d still rather have the Cosworth. Pit it up against the heavier Focus ST

[@Kocan7]

Usually Focus ST isn't as fun as Fiesta ST, and Focus RS (when it be on a market) would be too fast to compare.

[@edwardtiangco1445]

Still goin for the Cossie.. It only needs stiffer suspension from what I can see.

[@mikeashley4069]

Edward Tiangco maybe some new tyres. You could definitely tune the cosworth engine far more. But I’m still shocked that off the shelve fiesta won hands down. 3.5 seconds per lap is a massive time difference.

[@James-ns6jm]

a stage 1 tune which is basically just a ECU remap takes this mk8 ST from 200BHP to 250Bhp with accommodating mods such as a induction kit and cat back exhaust this could raise it to 265 easily. Not bad for stage one. Not seen anything for stage two on this yet so yea so far the Cossie will be more tunable. But i would compare the cossie to the focus RS personally. 2.3 litre turbo that's 350Bhp. For similar price brackets of its age. That would see how far technology has come in this day and age better.

[@soundseeker63]

@@James-ns6jm True, the Focus is the more direct comparison, and yes, we know with modern cars you just plug in a laptop and get another 50-100hp and that is what kids today call "stage 1 tuning." But lets not forget that 2.0L Cosworth engines were designed to be raced at 500+hp reliably right from the start, which they did with ease in many touring car and WRC car iterations throughout the 80's and 90's, and still do today! The advantages of modern engines is more in terms of fuel efficiency, emissions, responsiveness, refinement etc. But in terms of raw power I wouldn't even compare the aluminium open-deck Ecoboost to the cast iron closed-deck Cosworth. It is simply the stronger engine, designed for racing in an era when emissions and MPG were afterthoughts rather than priorities. I'm not knocking the Fiesta, it is a great little fun budget car. Ditto the Focus RS. Great car, good value. However the Ecoboost family isn't exactly known for its amazing strength and reliability to say the least!

[@GMak81]

soundseeker63 - they're known as "Ecobooms" aren't they? I saw a news feature, and have read a lot of Ecoboost owner reviews talking about fires where coolant runs out due to, I believe, head gasket issues. I have also read owner reviews of recent Ecoboost owners where the car has died, sometimes on motorways or even during overtakes. Scary. I think Ford retrofitted a low coolant sensor, so their solution was, just keep topping up the coolant all the time! I've also seen some YT channel claiming that the racier Focuses have hydrolocked, again due to crappy head gasket design.

[@soundseeker63]

@@GMak81 Yes the earlier Ecoboost engines were total crap. Failing at less than 30k miles in some cases, and thats without any tuning! Not sure about the more recent versions but one would hope Ford have got their act together with the new Focus and Fiesta! Of course there were no such problems with the Cossie even when running 500+bhp...

[@skarceoneafd9609]

I’ll take that cosworth any day of the week. Older cars like that have character and a soul it seems like, I always get attached when I have an older project car!

[@legyes]

Let's test it on any other surface ;) The Escort Cosworth is still one of my favorite cars.

[@Testarossaborch]

i still prefer the escort

[@Dan_druft]

I would still rather have the Escort Cosworth, the other one looks like something my mum would take to the supermarket

[@nickgoode3062]

They are both tatted up shopping hatches..

[@-VaLaK]

Dan Druft She'd beat you there though

[@markpattison9554]

Just cause you can't afford one😂

[@Flying_GC]

My cossie was over 400hp with very little coaxing. They were never fast stock due to major detuning. The fiesta would be a fun little daily but there is still a chasm between these cars in favor of the Cosworth. Also playing music over the top of a cossie screaming is sacrilegious why would you do that.

[@mole259]

Ive got the fiesta albeit stage 1 so about 250bhp rather than 200. I'd definetely say try one out. Ive had fast fords all my life albeit most of them small and it was infectious about how it handled and went. It's the only reason i bought one, it sold itself. I love fords old and new im not biased, a rally spec sierra cossie is just porn :D

[@RBDET25]

All those improvements but still lacks the charachter and soul of the cossy

[@TheAnunnaki-NYC]

I wouldn't think twice. I'd take the Coz RS in a heart beat.

[@W3nch1]

He's chilling in the cossy and racing in the fiesta :-?

[@mikeuk8486]

Exactly advert of new fiesta

[@BadgerOff32]

Lol, to be fair, Fifth Gear probably just borrowed/loaned the cossie from some regular dude who took really good care of it (considering it was immaculate and only had 15k on the clock), so Jason probably was going a little bit easy with it. If he'd pushed it too hard and binned it, the insurance for the show would skyrocket, and they'd probably have to pay out tonnes to the dude they borrowed it from to get it all fixed or replaced. (Whereas Ford probably loaned them the Fiesta directly, so binning it wasn't as much of a worry, as Ford would soak up those costs)

[@mmeroca]

@@BadgerOff32 yeah that would make sense, you gotta drive that thing like balancing a pencil on the sharpened side

[@slmont8915]

Tiff would have got the cosi round faster 😋

[@davidbent347]

Tiff vs Stiff

[@grahamcurl5026]

VBH only managed 1:28.5

[@tiagobernardo6807]

Those cossie would be amazing with 300hp and a tuned stifer suspension.

[@dungareesareforfools]

As most are!

[@gerardmontgomery280]

It can easially take around 500 without new internals.

[@bigjohnfury5662]

They were in Germany , tested faster TUV checked than a 911 Turbo

[@EugVR6]

To be fair, the Cosworth didn't handle that well as a racing car because the tyres were to narrow and you couldn't get the suspension low enough but it was massively faster than anything else in that time until the R32 Skyline came along and made the RS500s look slow.

[@peterpritchard5178]

The escort will turn more heads than the fiesta and i don’t think the fiesta engine isnt going to last as long as the cosworth. Some call the fiesta engine an eco bang

[@gaz10182]

Yes like all car companys build it to be efficent not durable 40k-80k miles its bin material through a new one in plus its probably a nissan or mazda 3 cyl any ways ford never make ther own engines now

[@davothegreat9990]

@@gaz10182 so the mustang v8 coyote motor isnt ford built!! ok then....

[@no1DdC]

If you honestly think that an early '90s turbo-charged engine would be more reliable than a modern one, then I got a bridge to sell to you.

[@gaz10182]

@@davothegreat9990 who fuckin metioned the v8 !! also the v6 turbo is a ford unit apparently 2.

[@oschiri66]

@@no1DdC I drive a highly tuned 1992 Escort Cosworth. Very reliable. 150'000 km so far and still going strong.

[@TommyboyGTP]

Update the Escort with fresh suspension, bushings, etc and tune up the engine and it would be a different outcome. Still take the Escort regardless because cool points

[@paulstevens9409]

The engine isnt the issue, the cossie would beat that ST in a straight line....its just the handling

[@no1DdC]

So in other words, if we turn the Cossie into a completely different car by spending even more money on it, it might have a chance to beat a little stock 3-cylinder Fiesta.

[@oschiri66]

@@no1DdC The Escort Cosworth was born as a rallye car. The street version was made tame. With the first non-HTT versions that easily can be undone. With some minor modifications, you then have 330 bhp. I've eaten Ferraris and Porsches on mountain roads with that.

[@davidknowles2491]

@@no1DdC The ST had a 1.6 4-cylinder turbo, with 197BHP. Not exactly a stock 3-cylinder.

[@melihcelik9797]

Everyone mentions that cossie would do better if it had stiffer suspension or a turbo update or an intake update bla bla bla. Thats not the fucking point now is it? The point that they are comparing factory made cars in a 1:20 ish lap and 3.5 seconds is a lot in that lap. That is the development and advancement in the technology right there. Yeah we know cosworth would do better if it had those updates but fiesta would be better if it had those updates as well. That is not the point. I know most cosworths that you can buy today has those updates already installed but they are not factory made so its out of the question. I get why people would want the cosworth and honestly, I am also one of them. But I have great respect for the Fiesta and always have. There is something charming about that little car and I love it. Saying that its rubbish or just plain 'bad' is not making it justice. Learn the read the situation before throwin stupid ass comments. And if I am being honest if I could only have one car that is also for daily use, I would chose the Fiesta in that situation all day long. It is newer and unlike most of you fake goons I do believe that newer stuff is generally better than the older stuff.

[@billybellend1155]

The thing with the cosworth was that it was detuned for road use and reliability. They still have huge tuning potential. The red top up to 500bhp.

[@MadXed]

Need a Cossie vs E30 M3 vs Lancia Integrale shootout video

[@miralemnermina142]

Lancia Delta would win

[@ale9toma]

They made a duel Delta vs M3 e30 years ago and Lancia won

[@miralemnermina142]

@Jack ///M240i no, Lancia better suspension, engine and 4wd system

[@IOTWVUVWTOI]

Integrale vs M3 isn't a good comparison. That's like comparing a 22B to E36 M3 Evo.... Nice cars though :)

[@leedscity6881]

Lancia would smoke em lol why would u even want to see that

[@jimmybob3756]

Would have been nice to see Tiff in the Cossie and Jason in th Fiesta having a proper race.....but hey. 🤔

[@liamcurrie4011]

Tiff was kicked out sadly 😭

[@jimmybob3756]

Yes very sad and very odd. Fifth Gear has never really rocked the world but I and many others have enjoyed it....in my opinion Tiff would be a coin toss between him and Jason as the very last ones to go....but hey....Tiff can laugh it off and carry on. 😁

[@suprac19]

Tiff and Chris Harris is all you would need for a perfect show.

[@Quattro_Joe]

Would you give the keys of your immaculate Cossie to Tiff. I wouldn’t. He’d ragg the thing.

[@DPW864]

Give the slower driver the faster car? The other way round and it'd be interesting.

[@backupintheday9710]

Both these cars can be mapped to be considerably faster.

[@simonbeisly2321]

Cossie all day long, as a former owner of a Sapphire and Esco, they win everytime IMO , take all the bells and whistles off the Fiesta and as said, stick it on loose surface and we will see who is supping the champers ;)

[@_djcraig_]

I doubt we will remember the fiesta in 25+ years time.

[@DTCJimmy]

I remember the mk4 and that's 20 years old and other than being reliable it's a shit car. My new fiesta is awesome so it'll be remembered but as a classic is the question, I really like it. I think the special edition of the St might be something to keep its value in the future but as they make so many of the cars they don't end up being classics even if they are really good like the last st was as well

[@_djcraig_]

@@DTCJimmy I understand what you're saying and tbh my comment was a little vague, I still remember the xr2 and that's 30 years old. Like you said the newer cars are so generic looking an designed to be recycled they lost there characters. I see the mk1 rs focus holding its value and a future classic.

[@ItzzFuZZioNZZ]

God the cossie is just stunning what happened to ford no character anymore 😓

[@IOTWVUVWTOI]

Old cars have more character and soul than any new car can dream of

[@markmelling4003]

It's down to safety features they have to be shaped a certain way

[@IOTWVUVWTOI]

@@markmelling4003 not sure about shaped a certain way but obviously no sharp edges, I know headlights have to be a certain height from the ground and crumple zones etc

[@Toxic2T]

Kinetic Design, that's what ruined the entire auto industry.

[@tobysemler]

That Fiesta is a CRACKING little car.

[@philhill7973]

I have a Fiesta st mk8 running 260 ps Mountune . I liked the Escort cosworth in its day , time moves on I’m afraid. I wouldn’t want a cosworth because they rotted.

[@resnonverba137]

A very interesting comparison.

[@pgr3290]

Technology moves on a long long way in 25 years. If you compare with pure lap times, most older cars just cannot compete even when newer cars are heavier. That's because brakes are better, ABS and electronic aids are vastly more advanced. Suspension technology is far superior, engine tech is way way better, especially turbocharged engines. Finally and probably the biggest thing of all, tyre technology has been constantly moving forward. A teeny tiny bit every few years it gets better. Modern performance tyres are way better than ones even from just 15 years ago. Ultimately this is why people often quote Porsche 911 lap times from say 15 years ago and then compare to a hatchback which can match or even beat the times set by older purebred sportscars! In the end remember it's not about lap times. It's about how the car makes you feel when you drive it. The Fiesta is a fantastic new car, but the Cossie is a legend.

[@northseawolf]

Doesn't take much to get the cossie over 300 horses. A true modern classic and moral victor in this race, to quote an old motoring journalist.

[@jimbostir5004]

I don’t know about these comparisons. Has the cosworth got brand new tyres?, also the suspension parts on the cosworth are not worn out; some of them are 23 years old. EVERYTHING on the fiesta is new. I recon if they were manufactured now (the same as they were then) then there would certainly be less in it.

[@stephenmurray2851]

I see those fiestas everywhere and barely notice. I saw a cossie once about 9 months ago at the charing Cross m8 turnoff. You know why I remember that? Because that cosworth is pure class and an eye catcher.

[@no1DdC]

I mean, I love it as much as the next guy, but class is the last thing that comes to mind with the Cossie.

[@stephenmurray2851]

@@no1DdC nah, gentleman's chariot.

[@phil3622]

I’d still rather have the cosworth.

[@bign3ck]

If the fiesta was fitted with Michelin pilot sport 4 and the RS had stock tyres, that's your 3 seconds, had nothing to do with the car.

[@rman3680]

I'm sure it would of been the other way round on a rally stage which is what the escort was designed for really.

[@johnroberts9845]

This is not a rally stage tho is it

[@bremCZ]

What the heck is "would of"?

[@EugVR6]

Nope....its been done....the R5 Fiesta blew the Cosworth away and the Cosworth was running more power than the R5

[@Skippers.86]

Anyone else think that a stiffer set up on the cosworth will make it 10x better than the ST...

[@Feeeeerg]

The difference is: One is an icon, the other is a Fiesta.

[@rodrodney4904]

Roughly 1.5 second difference per 10 years of technological advancement . Well done the cossie!

[@SquidgyPickle]

No not really. It's s different class of car. It's a 1.5 3 cylinder fiesta with 2wd. If it was a true test then a new focus RS would be the comparison to use, and let's face it the Cossie would get absolutely anihalated.

[@nessuno5403]

A lot of it would be down to better tyre technology too probably

[@James-ns6jm]

50k car back in the day vs todays 22k car okay it had performance pack so even it we called it halfs 25k which could even have enough cash to take the mk8 to stage1 which is 250bhp because of emmision regulations holding the cars back in todays age. The cossie didn't hold up that well tbh. Now if you compared it to something like the Focus RS which is still cheaper in even todays age with inflation with AWD the cossie gets murdered. Only thing holding cars back today is the stupid EU emission regulations hence why there's potential in tuning from just simple remaps.

[@James-ns6jm]

@@nessuno5403 You think this car is still running same old tyres that it came with from 1992? It will have new tyres also...

[@Shane-zx4ps]

Dean Walker very true well said dean. This old tyres on the cossie argument is total bollox

[@ulgn1964]

Bought a brand new Fiesta ST in 2006, 150hp and great fun, tuned it to 200hp, cheap and fun and really quick, sold it 6 years later.

[@ulgn1964]

@Better Than You I suggest you take a look at the tests Top Gear qnd Fifth Gear did and many magazines test, it was the best in its class, here in sweden they tested it against the Golf GTi and it was only 1,7 sec slower and you could buy two Fiestas for the same price as one Golf.

[@ulgn1964]

@Better Than You The 90s, well my ST150 was from 2007.

[@Ben-Rogue]

I'd take the Cosworth every single day. Couldn't care less about Fords new whiteware products

[@Stutch-he1he]

Had a good 5yrs with no problems out of a basic 1.3 92 J reg mk5 Escort. Times you could get youre hand in the engine bay & tinker. Great Car.

[@bensmithkent22]

27 years from now will be a dreary crossover full ev. Sadly the fiesta is already a relic. I want one next and will use it sparingly. Fear prices will rocket soon.

[@britishbluetess]

The escorts a truely iconic car and the old yb engine can take massive massive power and is still sought after today, but in terms of new engine technology and extracting power out of smaller lumps these new hatches leave it for dead

[@richardmurphy546]

Despite losing, the cossie is still worth more than the fiesta now, and always will be. I’ll take the cossie please...!

[@headchef5680]

No way. A new Fifth Gear video. I thought you guys stopped. Thanks for coming back. I based my entire year 12 ipt project of you guys. I made a new updated website as my project.

[@howd500]

If the Escort was the big turbo model £450 stage one chip and the fiesta is long gone

[@3mfreale]

More of these please! Love the new old comparison

[@1066wastrel]

JESUS! a half second is a country mile in a car race, 3 1/2 seconds faster? Hmm? don`t bring a knife to a gunfight!

[@Dsinkz]

What would a fiesta or a focus be like today with a updated cosworth engine?? It would be mental

[@Rawnfella]

Loved the video, I wonder how old the tires on the Cosworth were though..? Don’t tires become rock hard and lose their soft compound after like 10 years? I think Paul Walker died that way

[@cirian75]

my thought to, these tests need the old car fitted with the correct sized but same tyres as the new car.

[@andyhulme2274]

The cossie is a lot heavier due to the size of the car and the four wheel drive system, and it would do better off... road

[@ciaranburke3243]

Would have the escort all day long, but you got to respect the little fiesta it's an excellent piece of kit 👌

[@garinakbar1907]

That escort cosworth was such an iconic British little hot hatch, as well as being one of the most iconic cars in WRC group a

[@JA-iq2vu]

Who cares if the new Fiesta is quicker, the Cossie will ALWAYS be more fun to drive, like most older classics.

[@markford8649]

Love the escort I wish Ford have the balls to build something like this again

[@tomcole020]

Mark Ford They do. It’s the Focus RS

[@Muzzaa]

@@tomcole020 lol the only thing similar between the rs and the cosworth is the badge and that they both have 4 wheels

[@lewisratford2908]

JackM and four wheel drive and 4 pot turbos lol

[@gillywash1487]

JackM they are both fords small family car but with big body kit 4wd and big power.... I’m not sure the focus will be as iconic but id say they are pretty similar!

[@Muzzaa]

I take it none of you have driven both cars or I think your opinion would be very different.

[@mark4joanne]

But what's the difference in kerbweight, or are they both similar weight?

[@chitpaul]

Escort looks better as a sports car, 4x4 grip as well. Still have the Escort.

[@91amh]

Great video - I love JP’s driving

[@DTCJimmy]

If the worth was the same and it was a daily driver then the fiesta is the better car but for style, rarety and value the escort of course

[@bump_draft]

What a gorgeous location, what track is that?

[@gerardmontgomery280]

The Cossie still holds up well, a better turbo setup and some stiffer springs, and it'd put up a better fight. Not necessarily more power but less lag would make it easier to stay on boost.

[@jamesclarke4370]

I'd have the Cosworth every day and twice on a sunday it's just got the whole package I drive a Volkswagon Golf R and I'd still have the Cossie ...

[@Shane-zx4ps]

Your a very lucky guy..

[@rogerdickinson6944]

Yeah because the cosworth will not depreciate, unlike your golf R...

[@Shane-zx4ps]

Roger Dickinson your a genius

[@RennieAsh]

Why didn't you get one then? lol

[@James-ns6jm]

Buys a boring car and goes on about a cossie like its more fun? You ever took a fiesta down the back roads? Fiesta would be miles more fun to drive.

[@notroll1279]

I would have guessed the Fiesta to be about a second or so faster (modern cars are heavy, after all) - but this is an enormous difference, and I assume that the Fiesta requires a lot less experience to get a good lap time.

[@neilross6227]

what is the weight diff??

[@johnm6587]

Gutted ... the 90s in me wanted the cossie!!! I'm beginning to think my 96bhp xr2 was not quiet the monster I remember!!! Lol 😬😬😬😬

[@clemfandango7175]

John M yes it was I loved those cars hahaha 😂

[@amazingskyland]

I like the Escort Cosworth, my dream car 👍

[@gingaboybuda]

I Would take the Cossie over any modern day car!

[@WaitKlaaw]

I reckon if the cossie had some decent coilovers it would probably be quicker if not on par with that fiesta

[@adamg8554]

Cossie looks absolutely perfect, same reg as the one used on the top gear drag race with the focus RS mk1 if I remember correctly too

[@GeordsYouTube]

At least in the fiesta you wouldn’t get every driver 20-45 years old trying to race you.. in their Golf GTDs... yes D the oil burner.. I knew a guy with an escort cossie he spent more in the paint shop than on anything else, from it being scratched every time he parked it anywhere..

[@fraser1814]

andrew hall you still get them pushing you for a race but it’s cool not to knowing you will eat them for breakfast if you wanted

[@buckleyjteams]

Ive a mk8 st and everyone wants to play

[@gaz10182]

Scratchin cossy is the jealous fuker breed . Also hard to get rid of they cunts too lol the fiesta will never be a cossy or a comparrison for a 4x4 flame throwing machince . 3 cyl and fwd just aint cutting shit lol

[@Ben-fi1cq]

Those deep dish wheels on the cossie tho 😍😍

[@m4d_mark_xtr3me79]

Okay... So if we threw 900-1500 quid at that cozzy 🤔 Tyres, coilovers and a tune up. It would smash that ST. I mean that thing was deffinatley as bone stock as it gets, whereas the ST had all the sports trim 😅

[@Termiic]

Now lets compare [DIY] repairability and longetivity of the car. Will fiesta still be running around in twenty years? Is there a repair manual? How many kilometers (miles, sorry) can be put down on 0.9L engine? Is it easy to service. These are the kinds of questions we should be asking ourselves regarding the emissions [bullshit] Short term vs long term.

[@largeChongus97]

It's a 1.5L

[@chasevans7171]

Seating position all wierd in the escort due to the chassis of a mk5 escort being so terrible ford had to put an obselete Sierra floorpan in the cosworth to make it any good. (squeezing another couple of years out of the Sierra rally program by cobbling the bits into a current model car and selling enough to homologate it the main reason it exists.)

[@peter8084]

Great video,I had a blue lux model back in the day, just incredible to see how technology improvements can now get you a standard cossie beater, on the track anyway, straight out of the box 😳 !

[@rickgrafter]

the escort will still hold its value in 15 years time

[@stuee_mk1stuee_mk169]

He was taking it easy like an old man going for a Sunday drive with his Mrs in the escort and driving like a man possessed in the fiesta 🤣

[@MattSwain1]

Would have loved a Cossie back in the day but I’ll take modern all day long (and I have because I drive an ST). I don’t yearn for epic turbo lag and it’s worth remembering that cars of that era were still death traps which I don’t want for either myself, my friends or family. I also don’t want a car with a 30 year old interior or equipment. Don’t get me wrong here, I love old Fords, I get the appeal but the ST is a cracking car that people should give a try

[@themc2806]

The cosworth is the ultimate Ford regardless to the newer RS Focus, still not a patch on the old Cossie

[@IStabChavs92]

should done it with focus rs considering focus replaced the escort range. though i imagne these 2 was done as they closer in.performance

[@thegingercarguy]

I’m still gonna go for the cossy

[@yasarramzan8016]

Still have the cossie

[@princesssolace4337]

I still want the Cossie over Fiesta ST coz of direct injection ain't reliable.

[@Starfishcentral]

I used to own a Ford Focus ST170. Which would I choose out of these two? Probably the Escort Cosworth .

[@fostersiceman]

Love the Cossie but I also love the XR2i :)

[@JohnJohn-sk2bp]

top man!