A filmstrip by Ford comparing the falcon to the Corvair . Vintage 1959 and extremely rare until now.
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@cheongyei3 жыл бұрын
My sister drove a second generation '63 Plymouth Valiant and liked it so much she and her husband bought a '66 as their second car. Back when MoPar engineering was solid.
@Copsarescum10 жыл бұрын
1960 corvair weighed 2300 pounds vs falcons grotesque 3250 pounds. I guess that big bumper, trim, huge bumper jack, was worth all the gas spent on the extra 950 pounds to haul around? ! Corvair's power to weight ratio (1 hp per 24 pounds) vs the falcon's (1 hp per 36 pounds) was NO CONTEST !
@pkhans9 жыл бұрын
"Imagine if this woman wasn't wearing slacks"... I laughed out loud!
@meatybeatybignbouncy6 жыл бұрын
"The Brittaney Spears Test"
@jeffwestend9096 жыл бұрын
I have to believe that quite a few female Corvair passengers were not wearing slacks in the back seat. There are probably dozens of Baby Boomers who came to be from this subset of 1960s women. 11:52
@rolandrodriguez38545 жыл бұрын
Corvair beaver shots!! Advantage....Corvair.
@wadebarnett25423 жыл бұрын
I did imagine. Oh, my...
@1940limited3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish she had a skirt on! :-)
@thomasbrower3052 жыл бұрын
You gotta love these ads, and how they're skewed in favor of the maker. The Corvair has no legroom in the back with the front seat all the way to the rear and no legroom in the front with the seat all the way forward. Imagine that!
@crazybobdj5 жыл бұрын
I believe that Chevrolet targeted the Corvair more towards the VW, than Falcon.
@wmason1961 Жыл бұрын
Yes that is true, but the Falcon was also directly aimed at VW. That made them direct competitors for the same dollars.
@davidm57075 жыл бұрын
It's ironic that the company that was later to make the Pinto complained about the danger of the Corvair's gas tank.
@ruforufo21855 жыл бұрын
we had a 63 or 64 falcon as a kid. by the time it died it probably had 200K to 250K miles on that poor 6. ran great, not fast, but very reliable
@corvairjim12 жыл бұрын
Meh. I've had a few Corvairs that have gone past 200k miles on the odometer. No big deal with proper maintenance.
@meatybeatybignbouncy6 жыл бұрын
I love the "bink" that tells you to change to the next slide! We watched a many a film strip like this in elementary school!
@fordtruxdad51552 жыл бұрын
Haha! I loved when we got to watch a film strip! But it seemed like the teacher always let the dorkiest, most distracted kid turn the film and they always got behind!
@radiotelefonia10 жыл бұрын
The Falcon won in Argentina where they never need to alter the original design, it was only improved it during the 30 years it was manufactured. The Australian version is only nominally a Falcon since they constantly changed the design. But the Argentine version is still a very popular car even today where it is constantly celebrated.
@willpoundstone717 жыл бұрын
In 1972, the NHTSA found that Corvair was as safe or safer in its handling as its contemporaries. It was really a case of the cover up being worse than the crime.
@michaelcuff57806 жыл бұрын
My cousin had a falcon just like this one. She was sitting at a red light waiting to turn left when a hook and ladder fire engine turned in front of her hitting the front with the trailer wheels on the fire truck dragging her backwards up the street hitting parked cars on the side of the street as they went. 1 city block later she was fine, not a scratch. The falcon was a mess!. She ran out and bought another falcon!
@vovanpop2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha. In Russia, such stories are called "tales from the smoking room."IN fact, there are much more chances to survive an accident in Corvaire. I WILL JUSTIFY MY WORDS at the Corvaire disc brakes + 3-point seat belts + protective frame of the car interior + motor at the back that will not fly into the cabin in an accident give a much better chance of surviving in the Corvaire than in Ford
@corvairjim12 жыл бұрын
Actually, the Corvair has 4-wheel drum brakes, not discs. Still, it stops much shorter than any other car in its class. In fact, in a chart of various performance statistics published by Road & Track magazine in 1965, the only cars available in America to stop shorter than the Corvair from 60 mph were the Jaguar E-Type and the Corvette, both sports cars with 4-wheel disc brakes. Good company to be in!
@Tony-hx2fj5 жыл бұрын
I so miss the simplicity , and sense of openness these old cars had. I feel like I am in a cave in these little economy cars of today
@rizzlerazzleuno47335 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this. Wonderful bit of automobile history. Truth is both these cars were cheaply built, were deadly in a crash, were prone to rusting, and like every thing of that era, pollution bombs. 1959 was an interesting time in American auto manufacturing with the decision to offer smaller cars. The full size cars had grown to enormous proportions so any of the compacts offered an option for folks that did not need or want a large car. The Falcon and Corvair station wagons were popular for years. The GM decision to go with a rear drive air cooled engine was to be in direct competition with VW, whereas Ford and Chrysler were just trying to offer a miniature version of what Americans were used to: front engine, water cooled and choice of two or four doors. Much different from a VW.
@walterweddle76442 жыл бұрын
I vaguely remember the popularity of having a bomb shelter, and us kids having nuclear bomb drills in grade school.
@KDoyle4 Жыл бұрын
The 1960-1963 Falcons were not prone to rusting at all. The Falcon also a lot safer in a crash than most of the imports of the time, Mercedes and Volvo being the two main exceptions. You wrote "The Falcon and Corvair station wagons were popular for years". Well, they only made Corvair wagon for 2 years, only 32,120 were built, and was cancelled in favor of the more conventional Chevy II wagon.
@fordlandau5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to have found this relic.
@TheRealitytherapy9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I drove a corvair for years until I could afford a real car.
@wadebarnett25423 жыл бұрын
I still like Corvairs, but if my first car had been a Falcon, that would've been nice.
@chuckster36295 жыл бұрын
Back when tuneups were every 10K miles due to leaded gas, the Falcon six was much easier to tune than the flat Corvair 6.
@corvairjim12 жыл бұрын
I see you have never done a tune up on a Corvair. Nothing at all difficult about it. Everything is right there in front of you.
@chuckster36292 жыл бұрын
@@corvairjim1 Ha! I owned a '63 Monza 990 convertible in 1967 and had to rebuild the entire engine, rings and valves along with pushrod tube seals of course. It had the two two barrel carbs that were difficult at best to sync. Spark plugs were a real chore to get to and you had to be extremely careful to not crossthread the holes as you installed them in those comparably soft aluminum heads. The Falcon had a cast iron block and cylinder head. And the Falcon's spark plugs were very easy to access. I don't know what experience you have with Whorevairs, but mine sucked. I had to pull the engine-transmission assembly three times over a year to replace the three piece aluminum riveted (!) flywheel. They had a bad habit of coming apart and rattling then the engine really vibrated. I've learned since then aftermarket manufacturers have developed once piece flywheels. Why oh why couldn't G.M. have done that in the first place?
@tripsadelica7 жыл бұрын
We never got the Corvair in Australia but we did get the Falcon from day 1. It looked really good but after a few months Ford was on the back foot. Our tougher roads destroyed the ball joints and suspension towers on the Falcon which was designed for American freeways. The next Australian Falcon had ball joints and towers which were twice as strong as their American counterparts. GM's Aussie car (the Holden) had been designed in Australia at the outset and was as strong as grandpa's axe!
@richcoleman469 Жыл бұрын
I had a 65 Corsa turbo in '71 and it was a sports car. I would never have had a Falcon then. I moved to Argentina in 82 as a missionary and the Falcon was the most popular car in the country and they made them until '91. All were 4 door 6 cylinders, and it wasn't long until I wanted one too!! I ended up years later with a V8 Fairlane which they made til '81
@ncmountaingal196010 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1965 Corvair 500 in 1972 with 20,000 miles on it. Loved it. Was very stylish and had ice cold factory air. This car was much better looking than the 1965 Falcon and had a European look to it. Only paid $330.00 for it from an old lady and sold it 7 years later for $1,200.00 with 69,000 miles on it. Wish I still had it!
@roylcraft6 жыл бұрын
Corvair with factory Air?
@buggyridge9 жыл бұрын
I had both cars. The Corvair was more fun to drive but both were good cars.
@georgechard49776 жыл бұрын
Amen, Jim!
@chuckster36295 жыл бұрын
Corvairs were prone to leak oil after about 30K miles. The engines literally shook themselves apart.
@kw98494 жыл бұрын
@@chuckster3629 They don't "shake themselves apart" . Flat-6 engines have excellent primary balance, just like straight 6's. A Corvair engine should be quite smooth unless something is wrong with it or the mounts
@chuckster36294 жыл бұрын
@@kw9849 I owned a used '63 Corvair Monza 990 convertible that was less than 5 years old. It had factory dual carbs, one on each side of the engine. Trying to keep those carbs balanced and in synch was a chore. I had to replace the clutch and two flywheels on that car. The main problem with the Corvair was Porsche designed the engine, but G.M. built it.
@1940limited3 жыл бұрын
I had a 64 Spyder that was a fun car to drive, bu a bit cramped as noted in the video. The pedals were a bit too close together, also. I had to be careful not to hit the brake when using the clutch. I have a 2007 Jeep now with 6-speed. The pedal arrangement is s bad as the Corvair.
@charleskesner13027 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this. Our family had a Falcon.
@owenlewis80066 жыл бұрын
I'll have a valiant, thanks. First year corvairs and falcons were slow as hell
@MichaeljRichter3 жыл бұрын
5 years later the Falcon got restyled, a 260 CID V8 installed and renamed "Mustang". The Mustang is still available. Can't say that about the Corvair.
@wyattnyfeler72703 жыл бұрын
@@MichaeljRichter Maybe so but I would much rather have the light smooth handling Corsair sports car than the slow and cumbersome mustang which is less practical than the corvair
@walterweddle76442 жыл бұрын
Those slant 6 engines proved their worthiness and durability.
@kw98494 жыл бұрын
I love the Corvair, but a lot of their small points are fairly valid when it comes to the 1960 models. It's important to realize just how much they ended up adding and changing for the 1961 models!
@villixeb Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@Loulovesspeed Жыл бұрын
Yes, but too little, too late!. The damage was done. Oh Mr. Nader, I have a great subject for your next book!
@shlomogoyslop8 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for this falcon to be finished. this channel is amazing keep us updated
@edwaggonersr.74465 жыл бұрын
I had a 63 Falcon two door, 6 with and automatic. I love that little car.
@walterweddle76442 жыл бұрын
I remember a school teacher owning one like your 63. It was a two door and pretty white. I was a kid and watch him drive by the house and he had both his hands tightly on the steering wheel. It's weird how I can remember that. I've always loved cars and that's probably why I remember him and his Falcon.
@jorreilly63349 жыл бұрын
This is 2015 and I see a LOT of Corvairs on the road and at car shows but very seldom a Falcon, In the summer, I drive my Crovair every day the sun shines (it's a convertible) and it handles great. I drive it and park my Montana van and people are always talking to me about it and I'm not the only one in this town of 5,000 that has one, there are at least two more in town. Mine is the '63 Monza 900 and looks great ! The nicest thing about this car is my current wife says she will never ride in it (it blows her hair) however she will drive her '75 GT VEGA hatch back but not take me with her.
@Livewire-Entertainment2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I have one and it runs and drives like a Caddy, I'm serious, Never have I ever had an issue with the belt falling off. And I would never put a Christmas tree in or on any of my cars. This advertising film is Ford biased. The all new Ford Falcon, a car styled for the nerds with pocket protectors. Just my opinion. lol.
@warrenbuchanan86024 жыл бұрын
funny how they saw " if your air cooled engine overheats you have to wait until it cools down " but that is much better than losing your coolant if a water cooled engine overheats if you are out in the middle of nowhere and don't have any water or having your head gasket blow out or your head or block crack . with an air cooled engine it does'nt really hurt anything when it gets hot you just lose a bit of power . i like the simplicity of an air cooled engine and the traction advantage of having the engines weight over the drive wheels
@shawnhaynes372610 жыл бұрын
Floor shifters low seats 5 passengers door locks on the handle small steering wheel sound familiar yep that's standard equipment today on all makes not just models. lol
@scooterp70095 жыл бұрын
Shawn Haynes, they were decades ahead of their time!
@joewilson22587 жыл бұрын
I actually owned a covair and had never had the problems this video portrais and I even had races with the 64.5 ford mustang and could beet them from stop light to stop light as the ford 265 v 8 just didn't have the power to out race me . If I had the chance to buy another covair I would do so but I would rather have the covair spider as it had the four barrel carb or a turbo charger to boost the horse power .
@lenisbennett82855 жыл бұрын
Saw a guy stop at a stop light in a Corvair the motor fail onto the street this was in 1967 the car was just a few years old.At different times I have owned a 1960 Falcon, a 1963 Corvair, and a 1960 Valiant. I beleive that of the three the Valiant was the better car.
@davidm57075 жыл бұрын
We had a Valiant, also, and it was better. Not that anything was any good back then. Imagine taking a cheap car today back to 1960. They'd think it was a Rolls Royce.
@lenisbennett82855 жыл бұрын
My Dad brought a VW bug new in 1966 for $1700 dollars And I brought it from about 6 years later. It was a very good car very reliable. Man ran a stop sign in a T-Bird and totaled my little bug.
@lenisbennett82855 жыл бұрын
The Corvair was not a well built car The air cooled motor was not a good design,and after it got some miles on it was a oil burner
@stephenkiefer8 жыл бұрын
The falcon got anywhere you wanted to go, any day, any time!!!
@brucegillies16942 жыл бұрын
Living in foothills outside of Denver when it snowed the Corvair really shined ! People with Mustangs and Falcons learned not to drive in snowy weather but sometimes caught rides with Corvair owners ! Also below 0 degrees weather wasn’t a problem
@erin190305 жыл бұрын
They were basic transportation cars. Fun to drive, and good on gas. You could do all your own repairs on the Falcon with simple tools.
@corvairjim15 жыл бұрын
... And I've made my share of basic repairs on Corvairs with basic hand tools as well in nearly 40 years of Corvair ownership. The Corvair has always been a fun little car to drive, but the Falcon is little more than a downsized, 3/4 scale full-size Ford. Notice they didn't get into how the Falcon's interior is smaller by a bunch?
@terrystearns11963 жыл бұрын
A separate gasoline heater what the hell..
@freemarketjoe98692 жыл бұрын
And turn yourself into a V2 rocket with the Corvair if you hit someone head on with that front gas tank!
@karllued5 жыл бұрын
Funny hearing Ford talk about possible fire due to gas tank location isn't it?
@Robbi4969 жыл бұрын
FILMSTRIPS! I remember helping show them, complete with the "bing" tone!
@BobSmith-mc7uq9 жыл бұрын
Robbi496 Showing your age Robbi!
@wadebarnett25423 жыл бұрын
I used the pause to turn the record.
@robertheinkel62255 жыл бұрын
My sister had the Corvair Monza. It was fun to drive and handled great. I never had a problem with the location of the clutch pedal, and found the four on the floor preferential to the three on the tree. In the service, I had a friend who drove a Corvair in road races. He was running radial tires up front and wider bias ply on the rear. Never had a handling issue.
@curioushooter Жыл бұрын
Monzas were later, better cars. Probably the best looking car GM ever made.
@honestbutugly10 жыл бұрын
bet i know which one handled better in the snow! ford didnt investigate this !
@wadebarnett25423 жыл бұрын
My Corvair had trouble on snowy hills. It was even stuck in the driveway once. Tires played a role, along with stupidity.
@thekekronomicon5903 жыл бұрын
For some reason I'm getting the feeling that there is no contest between the two lol
@desertbob68355 жыл бұрын
The Ford guy was right...the Falcon was a much better car. The Corvair is now just s curiosity with nutty fans...the Falcon platform would live on for 17 years and was a sales hit and a reliable car.
@sincityq9 жыл бұрын
My late half-brother's uncle worked for GM from the '50s to the '70s and was, of course, a big fan of the Corvair. After the 1960 model was introduced late in the model year, there were a lot of complaints about things mentioned in this production and that Ford dealerships had to show customers across the nation. Over the next three years, the vehicle was lengthened to reduce the wheel well intrusion into the cab, the brake and clutch pedals were spread apart further and the shifter was moved forward with an optional console. This reduced seating to five but... Corvair wasn't a family car. It was a fun car. The Ford Falcon was never about fun, lol. The Ralph Nader book, 'Unsafe at Any Speed' (1965) was the next step from this video, to eliminate America's ONLY automobile with a rear engine that enhanced performance and mileage. Had Chevrolet not surrendered, chances are there might well still be Corvairs in production today. Thanks for sharing this video. I haven't seen it in decades.
@youzzername8 жыл бұрын
"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son"
@ernestchacon49283 жыл бұрын
My grandparents had a gray covair, and one of my aunts had a white falcon, I of course was about 7, but remember both cars.
@05cr125rider10 жыл бұрын
Funny stuff for sure.I'm old as dust and was a kid when they came out.The corvair was kinda cool but the falcon got the job done for a lot of people.I remember seeing a many a corvair broken down on the side of the road,along with those old renaults.
@johnrobinson28805 жыл бұрын
When i was 6 there was one in the family. I remember it well. I did not like it. I do remember it was getting fixed a lot. The ford wagon was my favorite, heat that worked and a better radio. Torque that would push you back in the seat.
@jefjaeger5 жыл бұрын
I love both Corvairs and Falcons. Very unique cars. The 'advance the slide' beep reminds me of seeing slide presentations in grade school back in the early 70's...
@dextervandemark7082 Жыл бұрын
I love the Corvair I was alive when it came out brand new and loved it then still love it to this day. Ralph Nader didn't do Chevrolet Corvair any favors.
@richarda9962 жыл бұрын
In 1964 I had a choice between a Ford falcon or a corvair turbo spyter. I went with the Chevy and never looked back. Note I also have a trophy sitting on my desk. 89 in the 1/4 mile.
@ZackKnierim10 жыл бұрын
That's just awesome.
@DataWaveTaGo10 жыл бұрын
The Falcon won in so many categories, however, I purchased a 1964 Corvair. Reason? Adventure! Imagine flying through the air after leaving the road at 70 mph and free-falling down a steep embankment with a double-roll to finish! I wasn't hurt. I drove the Corvair for another 18 months and bought a 1966 Corvair. Adventure never ends! Oh, and I became a Corvair collector, having about 6 at any one time for a while. Great car!!!! My gem was a 1967 Corsa convertible, still running today.
@CORVAIRWILD9 жыл бұрын
Nice effects beginning and end...
@SteelRhinoXpress9 жыл бұрын
4:35 oh how those words would comeback and haunt ford a decade later with the pinto.
@johnbowser48339 жыл бұрын
We need to see a comparison with the Vega! I loved Vega. Both were rust buckets back east
@thomasfitzgerald10272 жыл бұрын
Unsafe at any speed!
@vovanpop2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasfitzgerald1027 Ha ha ha. This book was written by a lawyer who has never been driving himself because he has never had a driver 's license .YES, the "expert" is 100%.In Russia, such "experts" are called "professors of sour cabbage soup or doctors of toilet sciences"
@notyetsilenced97465 жыл бұрын
The Corvair, with it's engine mounted directly over the drive wheels, was great in the snow. Even with snow tires, my 1963 Falcon fishtailed. Other than that, I much-preferred my Falcon over a similar-vintage Corvair.
@billiebobbienorton25567 жыл бұрын
I forgot to turn the record....
@jwald6795 Жыл бұрын
Never had a Falcon , never will. Had a Corvair and I want another one.
@daverson86096 жыл бұрын
That's not a comparison. It's a Ford ad for Falcons. The Corvair looks very interesting and it was built as a budget vehicle with good economy.
@petermainwald64138 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA... its the gas fumes that are obnoxious and hazardous.... lol YA... wouldnt want to confuse that with the healthy cigarette smoke now, would we....
@NameWithheld9998 жыл бұрын
+PETER MAINWALD Because everyone wants to smoke while refueling, hahaha.
@101Volts7 жыл бұрын
Go back to 1955 and see that MARLBORO CIGARETTE ADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD which has a man smoking while working with gasoline, MMHMM!
@gotham615 жыл бұрын
I love how they imply that it’s fine to puff away while gassing up you Falcon
@packingten4 жыл бұрын
YA how old are you 15 16?, Amazing your all experts on things of 60 or 70 yrs ago
@packingten4 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFarmToys I smoked 28 yrs less than pk a day, YOU'LL BE SORRY!!. I CAN BARELY BREATHE!.
@themagicayrtonsenna7 жыл бұрын
¿Isn't it funny that Falcon's replacement, the Pinto, had the worst located fuel tank of any car???
@stephenwhited18337 жыл бұрын
Having owned 6 Pintos they were as safe as the comparable two door cars from Japan. They all had the gas tank behind the axle so in a crash the diff would tear a hole in them. The real problem with the Pinto that was fixed after the 3rd year of production was the doors would jam shut in a rear end collision locking the the passengers inside. After those problems were fixed the car went on to become a very fine little car. What garnered the noteriety was the memo from Ford to pay out the lawsuits rather than fix all the cars. If you will notice it lasted longer in production than the Gremlin or the Vega. It also spun off into the Mustang II. The Station wagons were the best as they had a somewhat better suspension and much better weight balance. The wagons were great in the snow. My son has a Pinto he restored and he loves it.
@ohger17 жыл бұрын
Not true. The Pinto's gas tank location was pretty much where everyone else put them. Further, the Pinto's statistical performance show it was no better or *no worse* than other cars of it's size and weight with regard to fuel tank failures during rear end crashes. Those are the facts.
@Arayig19826 жыл бұрын
Pinto did not replace Falcon, the Maverick did, and the Pinto replaced the English Cortina in North America and was Ford USA first true small car ever.
@1979cl16 жыл бұрын
Stephen Whited the Pinto was still a worst car made and a piece of junk.
@1979cl16 жыл бұрын
+inurtrash Shut up trashboy! The Pinto is shit with the Fiesta, Escort and Probe and it won't survive in a demolition derby, it''l get crushed like an egg and i'll be laughing, hahaha!!!
@bagger197210 жыл бұрын
I bet when the GM top brass saw this film, they wanted to kick some of their engineer's asses
@kw98494 жыл бұрын
The GM brass and beancounters were responsible for a lot of the 1960 Corvair's missing standard features, like coathooks, door lock buttons, painted interior trim, etc. They had a target price in mind and moved many amenities to the options list to reach it. They realized their mistake and corrected a lot of it for '61.
@freemarketjoe98692 жыл бұрын
How can one argue with this simple, unbiased fact filled film. Thank you Ford for this much needed public service educational format! i can't see how those scoundrels slinking around through those dark, dank, poorly lit hallways over at General Motors can show their faces in public after the sneaky underhanded way they tried to pull one over on the unsuspecting American public with the shoddy, poorly designed, cheaply made junk witnessed here! If only someone besides Ford cared...dared..to take on General Motors and the "Corvair" My owning a 1963 Ford Falcon, personally has absolutely no bearing on my views in This matter! God bless you Ford for all your good works!
@johnsimun65332 жыл бұрын
I’m with you, that woman. Imagine if she wasn’t wearing slacks, and loosing 7 inches in the rear seat, while sitting between two big American women. Don’t get me started on no ashtrays in the backseat either. They could not even put one. What am I supposed to do after a ride between those two big American women. If I am driving, and have six big American friends with me. My big American woman is not going to be too happy to be sitting next to me, with that outdated shifter on the floor. I would end up having to rest my big American arm on her leg. Now, she would not enjoy that. Shame on you Corvair. You don’t quite measure up. Just take your rear mounted engine, tucked between your rear wheels, and check your tire pressures before you go home. I am going to Dodge. It is not going to last, but until then, it will be fun. Thank you, Dodge brothers for all that you have created so far, and I have a feeling. I feel really weird saying this, but one day if I live long enough. I really believe that I could walk into any Dodge dealership an buy an over 700 horse powered vehicle, and that’s in different body designs. Imagine two door, four doors, station wagon, and trucks, all with over 700 horsepower, and a warranty to boot. But until then. I will stick with what Dodge pumps out, and when that one falls apart, onto the next I go. But for everyone else, you all need to Go buy a Chevy.
@northerniltree2 жыл бұрын
Synopsis: With Falcon, you get the engine in the front. With Corvair, you get it in the rear.
@TheGearhead22210 жыл бұрын
Having owned a '67 Mustang Convertible, and a '65 Mustang Notchback, I am definitely biased against Chevy. I'll give them credit for taking a stab at rear engine drive, but the Corvair died a quiet death in '68, after Ralph Nader's "Unsafe at any speed" came out in the nid 1960's . The only thing that hurt Falcon sales was Mustang sales, and the Falcon (successfully) morphed into the Torino in 1970. My restored 1/63 Falcon Tudor Sedan is a study in simplicity-even backup lights were optional! Although underpowered, the 144 ci six was the progenitor of a long line of small block six's that are VERY durable:)-Gearhead222
@karnutz6 жыл бұрын
Last Corvair was the ‘69, not ’68. The Torino joined, and then replaced the Fairlane line. The Falcon begat the dreadful Maverick, which begat the even worse Granada, which begat the horrid Lincoln Versailles, the latter deriving its nameplate from the 17th-century French royal palace. Coincidentally, the oxcart rear suspension in the Falcon and its progeny mimicked those favored by French peasants of the 17th century, when building farm wagons.
@karllued5 жыл бұрын
I spent years as a teenager restoring a '65 Mustang with a straight 6. When the riveted on Mustang emblem came out from the chrome horn piece, under it it said, "Falcon Sprint". A car in those days needed a complete rebuild every 100,000 miles, not to mention rusted through floorboards, exhaust pipes, (remember all the Midas shops). I will say the Mustang was far more reliable than my first car, a 1973 Capri, which also rusted terribly.
@fk45159 жыл бұрын
Wow, I agree the cars are comparable. If it's 1960 and you're looking for a smaller car, but want to stay American your choices. Ford offered the Falcon and the Comet, a unitized body with a 6 cylinder front mounted cast iron OHV water cooled engine, you could have two doors, four doors or wagons, and after a few years add a convertible to the mix, Ford even came out with a van using the Falcon moniker, some of the early Econolines also had Falcon name plates on them.So I guess Corvair had more models as you could get a 1960 Corvair convertible If what Ford offered wasn't you cup of tea the folks over at Chrysler Corporation had the Lancer and Valiant, put they didn't hit their stride and have a totally competitive design until their 2nd generation cars arrived and again two doors, four doors and wagons, convertibles to come with the 2nd generation cars. Let's not forget the independents American Motors had already been producing Rambler Americans for two years (two door sedans and wagons, four doors starting in 1960), Studebaker had the Lark out for a year before the Corvair (and Falcon) in two door, four door wagon and convertible models BUT with the Studebaker you could choose between six cylinders and eight. Granted the AMC & Studebaker 6 cylinders were flat heads. In the GM camp of course their was the Corvair in 1960, but in 1961 Pontiac came out with the Tempest (rear transmission, rope drive shaft, problems on the hoof) with a four cylinder engine and a rarely found optional aluminium V-8, of course Buick and Oldsmobile got into the market with their F-85 and Specials/Skylarks with V-6s or the previously mentioned aluminium V-8. 1962 rolls around and Chevy comes out with the Chevy II, full body styles (2 door,4 Door, convertible and wagon) about that time the Corvair wagons and vans disappear. The Corvair was a car designed to capture the blossoming small car market back form the Europeans who had been making inroads into the US market like never before. Of course the major player in the compact market had become Volkswagen, but Renault and Morris Minors and a smattering of Hillmans, Simcas and Fiats made it interesting. Note the Corvair's design mimicked that of the VW's in that they both used aluminium alloy air-cooled horizontally opposed engines. I suppose you could even make a case that the VW type III's moved VW design closer to the Corvair. Bottom line was the Corvair was innovative, unfortunately GM wasn't a corporation with a history of successful innovation. The second generation Corvair was a much better car put was stilled plagued with an engine that tended to leak oil, and it was still a rear engined car, a layout that was already on the way out before GM made the Corvair. With GM bringing out the Chevy II it was almost admitting that the Falcons, Darts, Valiants, Larks and Americans was what America wanted.
@rockvilleraven9 жыл бұрын
S Baker Ironically enough the Comet was supposed to for Edsel and when it was discontinued that they sold it at Mercury dealers and it finally got that division's name plate in 1962.
@scooterp70095 жыл бұрын
Capt. Beak, but the Chevy II was superior to the Falcon, and the Dart and the rest...
@toddbob553 жыл бұрын
Ford Falcon Sprints were awesome little cars i like the 1964 and 1965 Sprints
@cargo44415 жыл бұрын
As a teenager back in the 70s I remember in the high school parking lot there was some old Falcons still at work. Not so much for the Corvair.
@FrostAaron10 жыл бұрын
It sounds like I should wait for the 1965 Corvair. Thanks Ford for selling me a Corvair!
@ChrisStumer4 ай бұрын
We Australians are probably lucky the Corvair was never available in Australia. My dad had a 1963 Ford Falcon Futura four door, it had a gorgeous red and chrome interior, separate front seats with a chrome lidded console in between, full carpeting, padded dashboard, tinted band laminated windscreen, reversing lights, 170 cubic inch six, not the asthmatic two speed automatic but a three speed column shift manual.
@1unsafe1Ай бұрын
The Corvair was available down under in 1960. I have magazines from Australia featuring Corvair i.
@ElectrologyNow7 жыл бұрын
I restored a 1963 Sypder convertible. Seriously, antiques are antiques. I don't expect such cars to fit modern requirements ... and they do NOT! All the "Corvair issues" are real, but that only adds to the charm of the little car.
@546cowboy86 жыл бұрын
I drove a 1962 Corvair for over five years and it was a dandy little car. It would do things I would never consider trying with another small car. It was a four door and 105 hp, four speed and it did get 25 MPG, would corner like a sports car and reliable as can be. The rear seat folded down too.
@roberthanan4872 жыл бұрын
This brought back so many memories because I drove both of those back in the day. My dad was a car salesman and I would go to work with him on Saturdays to clean cars and make extra money. Dad never let me take the Corvair out into the streets. Lot only. That car should never been made. Many people died.
@doctorlarry22732 жыл бұрын
BS. The Corvair was as safe as any car on the market.
@villixeb Жыл бұрын
Many people died? Show your evidence
@pastrami19456 жыл бұрын
I had one of each and liked them both. My Corvair Monza with turbo was fast, but prone to vapor lock. Not too good in Okla and Texas summers. Falcon was better made and was not prone to aqua planing, as was the Corvair on rainy streets. On balance, I prefer the Falcon.
@johnrroberts79002 жыл бұрын
3:46 - The Falcon's sharply-curved filler neck was not without its problems. I remember in the 70s going to the ONE pump at the ONE local BP because its pump nozzle was slightly more curved than the others. This reduced the risk of the attendant spilling a gallon of gas down the back of the car, lol.
@bryoom50598 жыл бұрын
Holy crap. The beginning of this video is freakin scary
@vidguy0076 жыл бұрын
My father didn't see this video, he bought the Corvair.
@MrPowertorque10 жыл бұрын
Haters of the corvair have no imagination or taste.
@dynodon85929 жыл бұрын
You need a lot of imagination to drive one of these POS. As it goes for taste I guess you think Mogan David is a premier wine.
@greghowe6769 жыл бұрын
I love my corvair loadside pickup
@waltbreville51776 жыл бұрын
I hate Corvairs for a good reason. My friend had one that was nothing but trouble, I had to go rescue him when his Corvair quit running or had other bad trouble, several times !
@1SqueakyWheel5 жыл бұрын
That's not a good reason to hate a Corvair. Any car is going to need proper care. And old cars are especially going to be cantankerous and/or faulty if their scheduled maintenance isn't done right. And while the Corvair was an odd little car, certainly not known for its reliability per se, it wasn't an awful car when PROPERLY taken care of. So your friend either wasn't working the maintenance schedule, or he didn't go through the car when he first got it, to correct the damage that the previous owners' neglect may have caused.
@HowardJrFord5 жыл бұрын
@@1SqueakyWheel The valve covers on corvairs were flimsy and leaked oil, sending smoke and fumes into the passenger cmpartment.
@richarddismore749910 жыл бұрын
This is great!
@groundhog76527 жыл бұрын
Corvair is much more sought after by collectors than the Falcon ever is, or will be.
@russg18016 жыл бұрын
Funny what five decades will do to collector value, eh? On the other hand, the Falcon platform became the foundation of the Mustang!
@HowardJrFord5 жыл бұрын
That depends on which version of the falcon you are referring to, the falcon version, or the mustang version.
@USMC-Sniper-01374 жыл бұрын
OMG! A bird just went right through my Falcon grill and too out my radiator!! I'm off to buy me a Corvair!!
@jeanvillard26064 жыл бұрын
If that "ding" noise dinged again I was gonna punch my screen. Made it half way before giving up.
@johnm62014 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but if I can't smoke a cig while I'm gassing up I'm done 😂
@wangautomotive4 ай бұрын
Dear lord that intro is nightmare fuel
@rsteeb8 жыл бұрын
'65 & later Corvairs were vastly superior to Falcons of ANY vintage. [Thanks, Mr Nader!!]
@arkhsm8 жыл бұрын
+Rick Steeb Total bullshit : PUT UP THE BEST Covair against any 2016 Aussie Falcon, hahaha !!
@6226superhurricane6 жыл бұрын
ok mate put your corvair up against a an fpv f6 typhoon or any single other australian built falcon ever built.
@oilsmokejones34526 жыл бұрын
True the '65 and later Corvairs were great...Aussie platitudes (I did not say platypuses's) aside..another 100 hp would have been nice tho..
@dockmasterted6 жыл бұрын
You know that Nader had a corvair!..... his biggest problem was HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE!...... LOL@Nader
@dockmasterted6 жыл бұрын
He is what we call "UNSAFE IN ANY VEHICLE! EVEN WHEN IT IS PARKED!"
@hebneh8 жыл бұрын
These comparisons range from petty to significant, but overall, for a Ford salesman, many of them would be very helpful for pure practicality. If a buyer in 1960 was deciding between the Falcon and the Corvair, luggage space and the cramped position of the driver's left foot were important considerations for the usefulness of either car. The type of insulation on the ceiling and the composition of the decorative interior door panels, not so much. But if it could sway someone to buy a Ford, then by all means toss it out there. The weirdness of the respective tire pressures for the front and rear Corvair wheels could have made an important difference in handling. I suspect, but don't remember for sure, that this could've been one of Ralph Nader's complaints against the car.
@5610winston8 жыл бұрын
Cramped foot position and awkward clutch operation? When I shopped for a new pick-up a couple of years ago, the Tacoma looked better than the Frontier on paper, but there was no way for me to get a comfortable driving position in the Taco due to a poorly placed rearview mirror. I realized that having to slouch to see around the mirror was a far more intolerable situation than a couple of miles per gallon.
@carlosmurphy4u17 жыл бұрын
Obviously this film was produced by Ford.
@roya.cathcartjr.50424 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was a training film for Ford Dealership Sales Staff produced for Ford Motor Company. The company that produced this training film did so for the Big Three Auto Makers of Ford, GM and Chrysler.
@stephanieyeshuaislife723610 жыл бұрын
Seven is so my lucky number, it's not even funny ~ This is a very enjoyable presentation to watch ~ thank you so much!
@anthonycolefera59506 жыл бұрын
Oh, snap!! I'm gonna buy a Falcon!
@senorkaboom7 жыл бұрын
We never had a Corvair, nor did anyone in our family and we never bought one as a used car. We did have neighbors who had a Corvair and I remember it. The End.
@gregger593 жыл бұрын
Same here. I always found the design novel, maybe for that reason. Even though we had a Falcon, two Mustangs (aka Falcon with a nicer body) and a Galaxie, I still find the Corvair look intriguing...both generations.
@randy1097 жыл бұрын
My aunt and uncle bought a brand new VW Squareback in about 1966. It was leaps and bounds better than the Corvair or Falcon. It has always struck me odd that in the USA so many Beetles were sold and so few Squarebacks were sold. A lot of people my age never even remember seeing a Squareback in the 1960's. Also, we had a 1963 Falcon and it was nothing to brag about but was still a lot better than the Corvair. A Corvair was almost a novelty to own because it was SO different.
@wmason1961 Жыл бұрын
My family had multiple squarebacks when I was growing up. Even my Grandpa had one. They were basically bettles with more practical and useful features. They should have sold better.
@robertmann72772 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that this commercial was ever made,I guess in the 60's this was tolerated
@4thstooge10 жыл бұрын
It was "No Contest" Both of these cars were junk The falcon was a slow POS, the Corvair would toss off it's fan belt & over heating and even a fire could occur. Actually the Valiant of the same era although ugly, was a far better car with a 3 speed Torqueflight transmission, bulletproof "Slant Six" engine.
@HowardJrFord5 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the Valiant's superior torsion bar suspension setup, and alternator :)
@CallmeDaBreeze19715 жыл бұрын
Slow POS? Falcon was available with a small block V8.
@davidm57075 жыл бұрын
My Corvair did throw a belt once. It reset the timing and I had to limp to the mechanic I used.
@rayfridley66495 жыл бұрын
If you opt for a manual transy Valiant, the shifter would be floor mounted, not on the hump but just beside it on the driver's side.
@walterweddle76442 жыл бұрын
This is 2021, and I tell everyone how happy I'd be if I drove a 62 Plymouth Valiant or Dodge Lancer. No computer chips to worry about and the durable slant 6 engine. First Lady Mamie Eisenhower owned a 62 Plymouth Valiant and if a Valiant was good enough for her, then I'm really prepared to step up to the 1962 Plymouth Valiant.
@bubbaclinton11055 жыл бұрын
And he winner is... The Valiant!
@G56AG5 жыл бұрын
The Falcon had a 23 cu ft trunk, sure like to see a big trunk like that on modern cars, way to many have trunks 10-12 cu ft.
@5610winston5 жыл бұрын
Check out the figures for the Rambler Six or the Valiant.
@flufanga8 жыл бұрын
Both good cars - yet the contemporary Valiant was superior to them both!
@karnutz6 жыл бұрын
...said Hellen Keller - and Stevie Wonder agreed!
@5610winston5 жыл бұрын
But the Studebaker Lark had the optional V8, up to 195 horsepower, and the Rambler Classic offered OHV sixes and the Rebel offered a V8 as well, and the Ambassador had a 327 rated 250 horses.
@johnrobinson28805 жыл бұрын
In 1960 Mopar made far better cars than either ford or chevrolet, and did so right into the 70's.
@rayfridley66494 жыл бұрын
I would see a video on a comparison of the Ford Falcon to the Plymouth Valiant for 1960.
@davidmorrill29435 жыл бұрын
Some of the corvair disadvantages are now considered to be the best designs today. i.e. Smaller steering wheel
@romanbukins65274 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah but you have to bear in mind that this was the 60s: Smaller steering wheel is a liability without power steering (the bigger wheel gives more leverage) And shifter on the floor is not something you want in a 6 passenger car: (unless you really like the middle passenger). However the Corvair does have some some genuine advantages like a much better engine.
@michaelplunkett8059 Жыл бұрын
Falcon had slow, heavy steering. Corvair had quicker ratio and was lighter to park as no dead engine weight on steering wheels.
@goldenboy55007 жыл бұрын
the Falcon did beat the corvair for sure for 2 years till chevy came out the ChevyII /Nova
@theendarkenment5 жыл бұрын
"The falcon is way ahead" except nobody at Ford or GM could be bothered to include seat belts in either car...
@farnthboy5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention those shitty old cross ply tyres both cars were wearing.
@gregger593 жыл бұрын
@@farnthboy You mean those Hostess Donettes? Yeah, really pathetic.
@wadebarnett25423 жыл бұрын
My '61 Corvair had seat belt attachment points in the front, but no seat belts. I added them soon after buying it in 1966.
@farnthboy5 жыл бұрын
These US spec Falcons were released in Australia, with disastrous results regarding front ball joint failure. Couldn't handle our shit roads. It took Falcon till the mid sixties to get over that stuff up in the buying public's eyes. After that they became an Aussie icon till 2017, when production finally ended.
@2packs4sure3 жыл бұрын
Ford really called it with the Covair tire pressure....
@brettcannon745 жыл бұрын
Ralph Nader definitely saw this in '59
@Deltoid719 жыл бұрын
GM had to cut back on the furnishings, upholstery, carpeting, etc. on the Corvair because it was costing too much to build and the price per unit was going up. BTW, you see alot more Corvairs on the road compared to Falcons, I would say.
@5610winston8 жыл бұрын
Not around here. I can't remember the last one I saw. I've seen a Borgward Isabella, a Crosley HotShot, and even a Tucker, all being driven in traffic since the last time I saw a Corvair. Even a DKW!
@carlmontney7916 Жыл бұрын
My grandad was a die hard Ford guy. When the Falcon came out in 1960 with a station wagon model , he rushed to buy one. After 8 months of normal driving it was puking oil from everywhere on the engine. He always said it was the worst car he'd ever owned. Ha sold it after only owning it for a year. My mom had a black Corvair Monza that was fun to drive, handled well and had plenty of power. Only issue was the fan bearing at the top of the fan went out and had to be replaced.
@klaassiersma48922 жыл бұрын
I would love to own a 63/64 Corvair rag top, i think they are one of the most beautiful cars ever produced.