Ford's Rare 427 MONSTER That Dodge Was Scared To Race - The 1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt

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In this Rare Cars documentary, we are going over the history of one of the most iconic Ford's ever produced, the mythical 1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt.
This factory built racer was the fastest thing around when it hit the strip, s much so that it was dominating the competition and laying down extremely low quarter mile times for the year.
Learn all there is to know about the 1964Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt in episode 31 of our documentary series on the world's most fascinating cars.
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@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 8 ай бұрын
EDIT: I totally didn’t even realize I said “4 speed automatic transmission”, it is in fact a 3 speed so my apologies there ❤
@kramnull8962
@kramnull8962 8 ай бұрын
There was an overdrive back in the early 60's behind a 390FE, I think the Starliners was most common. Another Love hate relationships back then though. You may have heard that transmission combo mentioned and got it in this vid....
@charliechristie2949
@charliechristie2949 8 ай бұрын
I think we all knew what you meant ! By the way, it wasn't too hard to tell which manufacturers' cars you like. Great video ! ! Thank you !
@paulpasternak2026
@paulpasternak2026 8 ай бұрын
Mercury meteor 1962+1963 406 6bbl too dog of 5 available engines small 6 big six 221 or 260 small block v8s and the 406-406hp. Very rare and years earlier than the gto
@waynecronan4160
@waynecronan4160 8 ай бұрын
Do you understand that I ran a 409 63 Impala that in1965 ran 11.18 et and 118 mph in a quarter mile. My name is Wayne Cronan
@charliechristie2949
@charliechristie2949 8 ай бұрын
@@waynecronan4160 SWEET !
@RicherPickle
@RicherPickle 4 ай бұрын
I had National Record in A/S in 1966 for 2 weeks with my 1963 1/2 Galaxy 500 XL at Island Dragway. I turned 11.9 & 123 mph. I drove for Michael Ford Drag team, Whitehouse, N.J. The XL was 14 pounds heavier than the bench seat so it made it into A/S by a 'hair'. I weighed 123 pounds. A light 17-year old driver. We blew a 9" rear every weekend, but FoMoCo paid the bills! Those were the days! I'm 74 now and ride fast bikes!
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 4 ай бұрын
Wow sounds like you sir have lived life to the fullest!
@rctopfueler2841
@rctopfueler2841 2 ай бұрын
my dad had a 63.5 with the R code in bright red what a beast ,it got traded away in gas embargo for a sp311 roadster .. duhh dad nice job
@CelebznbodysuitNeckMaskz
@CelebznbodysuitNeckMaskz 2 ай бұрын
Nice my dad didnt have a record ..but same track in a 69 RR 383 , a marine head two 650 double pumpers An the usuals the head man headers , mild cam, air ride an mickeys all around an more im sure ! he passed away . He an his pals built it in my grampas drive way in 2 wks ..was a 69 383 auto ..he blew the motor a put a 68 383 in it and a 4 speed tranny in 72 ,car was a beauty ..Torque monster, lift front tires off .a couple pics of that lol ..all i have left is pics ..ran 11.9 .. 1/4 his best run
@michaelraddish7898
@michaelraddish7898 Ай бұрын
Was 11 84 in 68 Robert pond,California 427 single 4brl. 410 hp Fairlane
@user-bj3zz4ul7z
@user-bj3zz4ul7z Ай бұрын
Cool
@richardlively1666
@richardlively1666 8 ай бұрын
Guys the power is something to behold, but the styling in the 50's , 60's, and 70's was a work of art. Everything, almost, today is a cookie cutter version of something else. IM glad and blessed to be a part of that generation!!
@71rcode72
@71rcode72 Ай бұрын
As a true Ford guy and former Year One employee 30 years ago surrounded by GM and Mopar lovers, I believe every manufacturer was amazing in their own way and I admire them all. Designs performance Etc
@brandonbms1843
@brandonbms1843 7 ай бұрын
As a Mopar guy I enjoyed this video. This is one Ford can be proud of for sure. I will tell you though us mopar guys aren't afraid of anything. Especially not competition. We will race it even if we know odds are against us because typically they are.
@babydriver8134
@babydriver8134 5 ай бұрын
I was a 16 year old who knew nothing about cars. I was tasked to drive a Malibu SS 396 from downtown LA to Thousand Oaks. I stopped for gas at our regular station and the gas jocky challenged me, saying 'I have a 383 over there says it's just as good. I couldn´t doubt him.
@Jdub6580
@Jdub6580 8 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you've covered the Fairlane thunderbolt bro. This is probably one of my top five favorite cars of all time. Who doesn't love fake headlights designed to conceal huge air intakes?
@user-ce1pm6yr9q
@user-ce1pm6yr9q 8 ай бұрын
A '65 Mercury Caliente also struck fear in the hearts of many competitors at the Track with this motor under the hood.
@angelaprater2679
@angelaprater2679 8 ай бұрын
And they looked GOOD.
@anarchistdan
@anarchistdan 8 ай бұрын
Today dodge took notes
@kellynestegard5208
@kellynestegard5208 7 ай бұрын
One windshield wiper, one sun visor, no heater or radio, plexiglass windows; all business.
@jakobquick6875
@jakobquick6875 7 ай бұрын
Great beautiful car, but almost 13:1 compression on lead 64 gas… Hmmm wonder why they ran great or total shit….my pops was in Indy and Pomona and many other tracks and he says “ they ran like a bat outta hell or they backfired and pooped at the line🎉 Just like the early hemi cars no jokes
@customkey
@customkey 8 ай бұрын
Top stock eliminator at the 1964 NHRA Nationals was won by Roger Lindamood in a SS/A Dodge, he beat Jim Thornton's Ramchargers SS/A Dodge 426 hemi in the final. The last Thunderbolt running was Butch Leal's 4 speed, and he was gone long before the trophy run. I was there in '64 and the Dodge drivers were kicking butt with the new Race Hemi. Look it up, the runoffs are right here on YT.
@clintwalker6389
@clintwalker6389 8 ай бұрын
You’re right you can look up anything quick nowadays.
@vincentrachelsdad-yr1kr
@vincentrachelsdad-yr1kr 7 ай бұрын
Tell the truth bro
@clintwalker6389
@clintwalker6389 7 ай бұрын
@@vincentrachelsdad-yr1kr look it up bro
@bradhardy2629
@bradhardy2629 2 ай бұрын
​the truth seems to hurt you Ford girls. Everybody knows the hemi engine ruled and still rules the 1/4 mile. Boo hoo
@raymunchieftain4170
@raymunchieftain4170 7 ай бұрын
Thunderbolt !!!! One of the most beautiful and fierce iconic vehicles ever made !!!!!!!!
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 7 ай бұрын
As a Ford Guy I always thought The Thunderbolt was the most impressive at the track. The sound alone would raise my blood pressure~! Great video and The Narration was excellent and added to the thrill~!
@hornetbrown
@hornetbrown 8 ай бұрын
There is a guy here that owns a few Thunderbolts and BB Galaxies in his museum here. Got some BB 409 Chevys, Dodges (including a 'Sox and Martin' Cuda drag car) and a 'swiss cheese' 421 Catalina lightweight. I got chills walking around the place -so much history stuffed into one complex. Those Thunderbolts were the stuff of legends.
@MrJohnnyDistortion
@MrJohnnyDistortion 8 ай бұрын
Address?
@paulhenson4434
@paulhenson4434 8 ай бұрын
Wow, Sox n Martin! I forgot all about them!
@NobilityandLoyalty
@NobilityandLoyalty 8 ай бұрын
You pretty much covered all the bases of yesterlore. 😅great memories
@aaronmartin4600
@aaronmartin4600 6 ай бұрын
Where is this museum I would love to see those magnificent cars
@barrycuda3769
@barrycuda3769 8 ай бұрын
And Mickey Thompson took his Thunderbolt to another level.
@mtbodyfarm5174
@mtbodyfarm5174 7 ай бұрын
My first car was a 63 chevy with a 425hp 409. It broke all records including transmissions, clutches, drivelines, rearends and axles. Loved it!!
@thomasauslander3757
@thomasauslander3757 7 ай бұрын
Compensation: At least you had a great Beach Boys song to listen to..
@randycoursey7230
@randycoursey7230 7 ай бұрын
The 409 was a truck engine. Not one of Chevy's better ideas unless you drove a truck.
@toddjohnson1899
@toddjohnson1899 7 ай бұрын
You should have put you a 9in. Under it 😊 driver.
@randycoursey7230
@randycoursey7230 7 ай бұрын
@@toddjohnson1899 Yeah a FORD rear end.
@phantomstratocaster
@phantomstratocaster 6 ай бұрын
my wife bought me a brand new 69 chevelle with one piece aluminium drive shaft,front scoop black with silver racing stripes and i've been chevelling the driveway every winter since.
@donalddalton4866
@donalddalton4866 7 ай бұрын
I had the pleasure of driving my 1964 Ford Galaxy 2 door fast back 427 dual quads 715 cfm each with a 4 speed for 4 years before selling it in 1972.
@tonymickens8803
@tonymickens8803 6 ай бұрын
I remember back in the 70's Dyno testing the 427, 428 and 429's in Dearborn when I was in High School, they made WELL Over 500 and 600hp ATC, Man to Be One of those 100 Customers!
@jerryjustice8803
@jerryjustice8803 8 ай бұрын
The 427 Ford engine was bad ass and very powerful.
@Adam-ub9nu
@Adam-ub9nu 3 ай бұрын
Basically a detuned version of what went into the GT40.
@RicherPickle
@RicherPickle Ай бұрын
It was 'over-square'. A 4.387 bore with a 3.78 stroke = 427 cubic inches. Similar proportions of a 327 Chevy, but BIGGER & Fast to rev!
@jimdodge5766
@jimdodge5766 8 ай бұрын
The Fairlane and galaxy were good looking cars. I would love to have a new thunderbolt.
@nathanadrian7797
@nathanadrian7797 8 ай бұрын
I am a Mopar nut, but last summer I saw a baby blue 63/64 Galaxie 500 in Creston B.C., what a beautiful car!
@ccrider77
@ccrider77 8 ай бұрын
Dodge was never "scared" to race Fords on the dragstrip, or on the ovals. That's hyperbole... However the lightweight Fairlane was definitely a formidable competitor, and pushed the limits of what was taking place in the early 60's. By 1965, only one year later, the 426 Hemi's and AFX cars raised the bar, putting an end to this chapter.
@petergiannaros9037
@petergiannaros9037 5 ай бұрын
What Chapter?IFord were not allowed to run The Sohc in Nacscar so it went drag racing.Seems to me Danny Ongais in Mickey Thompsons Mach 1 kicked ass ,correct me if i'm wrong.
@ccrider77
@ccrider77 5 ай бұрын
Ford was allowed to run cammers in 1966. The Chrysler Hemi was banned in 1965, but also came back for 1966, so they did run head-to-head at NASCAR after 1964, but the Plymouths still prevailed, despite being a simpler pushrod engine. The problem with the SOHC motor was the enormous cam chain, which would stretch so much that cam timing would typically vary from 4-8 degrees between cylinder banks. It was basically an iron FE block with aluminum OHC heads bolted on as an afterthought. The engineering was rushed through in only 90 days, and that shows. SOHC motors did make a valiant effort in NHRA drag racing too, but some of the same problems surfaced there. When the early AFX and Top Fuel classes evolved into what they are today, the cammer was left out of the picture, because of it's inherent design problems. @@petergiannaros9037
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW Ай бұрын
@@ccrider77no it wasn’t stop making stuff up … the 427 Cammer was faster and no 426 chryker powered anything beating it. Ford made a/fx legal mustangs with the Cammer for nhra Chrysler knew Ford was building these cars so they built some ugly things and they moved the wheels forward .. so they became illegal to run in nhra.. so that meant Ford and Chrysler had to duke it out in match races and the Fords stomped the chryker cars … running way quicker. One example STOCK FUEL MATCH - Don Nicholson 427 Cammer Ford went up against Ronnie Sox Chrysler best guy at Richmond for a best of five affair, "anything goes," especially in the fuel tank. Surprise Sox blew his engine on the first run and the remaining races were run with Sox' gas car, Nicholson Ford 427 Cammer taking the win. Nhra isn’t the end all be all in drag racing… they certainly helped chryker allot they banned allot of Ford cars for example when Dodge showed up with acid dipped bodies that would dent if you leaned on them that was ok. But Ford showed up with their lightweight fairlanes they cried foul because fiberglass hood…
@ccrider77
@ccrider77 Ай бұрын
@@CoyoteFTW I never said you were making anything up. However unlike the 426 Hemi, the 427 SOHC motor was a race engine, not a modified street engine, like the 426 Hemi. This is why it wasn't allowed to race in NASCAR and in several drag classes. Like I said, the injected Hemi's in 1965 and beyond ruled the drag strip. The SOHC engine was used for a short time in altered and even TF classes, but ultimately couldn't compete with the Chrysler Hemi. Today in funny car and top fuel, every car is powered by an engine derived from the Chrysler Hemi, and that's for good reason. None are powered by cammers...
@markhartung
@markhartung Ай бұрын
@@ccrider77 Damn sure is. The hemispherical combustion chamber, big valves big power. As well the 427 Ford SOHC actually used hemi combustion chambers as well.......
@Alex_Miller1980
@Alex_Miller1980 8 ай бұрын
Wow the peak of performance for me the ultimate muscle of that era 64 12:1 compression ratio, side oiler 427 ci beast
@MrCanonballs
@MrCanonballs 8 ай бұрын
An 11 second production Fairlane!!! SH1T A BRICK! We got compact Fairlanes down here in Australia... but their 1/4 mile times were closer to 11 months.
@michaelcudby787
@michaelcudby787 8 ай бұрын
Farr, mate crackup. & I am a Ford man, from across the pond.
@barrycuda3769
@barrycuda3769 8 ай бұрын
Strewth.
@sparkywirenut
@sparkywirenut 7 ай бұрын
It's not really a " production car " , it was a handmade race engine .
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 2 ай бұрын
@@sparkywirenut- Not only the engine, but pretty much the entire car was built from a stock Fairlane which Ford sent to Detroit Steel Tubing Company for transformation into a Thunderbolt. Virtually a hand built racer built by D.S.T for Ford.
@1951RKP
@1951RKP 8 ай бұрын
In todays form Ray Paquet has ran mid to low 8 second with his Thunderbolt. He estimates about 900 horsepower and shifts the engine at 9,200 RPM.
@mhenderson1000
@mhenderson1000 8 ай бұрын
Ray's car is really nice. Saw this baby in 2021 at the US Nationals..Show quality and stupid fast.
@graybeard2113
@graybeard2113 8 ай бұрын
And back mid-70s, I think it was Bob Glidden I saw at Blaney Drag Strip, running 9sec Pro-Stock times. And we thought that was fast.
@donaldkgarman296
@donaldkgarman296 7 ай бұрын
THAT MUST BE WITH NITRO........IN THE 1964 RACES NITRO WAS ILLEGAL FOR FACTORY RACES .
@mhenderson1000
@mhenderson1000 7 ай бұрын
@donaldkgarman296 You must not watch or attend NHRA races..Just KZbin Ray's car and you will see how fast that Thunderbolt is..I've seen this car at many NHRA races because I'm a crew guy on NHRA Top Sportsman car.
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 2 ай бұрын
@@graybeard2113- Bob was a solid Ford man and captured 10 NHRA Championships. RIP, Bob.
@briankorner750
@briankorner750 8 ай бұрын
Gotta love the sound of a BBF. ❤
@rocketman63
@rocketman63 8 ай бұрын
These are iconic race cars, and awesome. They did NOT scare Dodge, or Plymouth either.
@Jerry-up8bk
@Jerry-up8bk 8 ай бұрын
What DID scare Chrysler and Chevy was FORD 427 SOHC CAMMERS !!! 616HP 1 Forv Carb 657 HP duall QUADS !!! Had Chrysler and Chevy owners Shaking in their boots !!!
@victordjinn632
@victordjinn632 8 ай бұрын
@rocketman63 You are correct.
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 3 ай бұрын
Maybe they didn't scare them, but they sure as hell beat them on more than an occasion! 🏁
@bluedart440
@bluedart440 3 ай бұрын
I doubt it@@Jerry-up8bk
@boblang409
@boblang409 6 ай бұрын
thanks, love reading all the replies and stories of back in the day!! thanks all . old muscle car guy here
@txtamaman
@txtamaman 8 ай бұрын
I bought a '64 500 hardtop when i was 15 and my dad and i restored it, i worked with him in his mechanic and paint and body shop till he passed in 92...it was a 260 v8 with a 2 speed.. hated that so i put a high po 289 and 3 speed auto in it... then put a 302 6 bolt and a 4 speed.... it was so beautiful
@tillyvee8319
@tillyvee8319 7 ай бұрын
What fun! Brought back memories of my first car, a '64 Ford Fairlane with the stock 289 in it, used to drag race that on weekend midnights on straight away county roads. Old Blue.
@larrynorsworthy8582
@larrynorsworthy8582 6 ай бұрын
South Georgia or Florida? Straight roads.
@jeffreyrubish347
@jeffreyrubish347 8 ай бұрын
Love the sound of that big block.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 8 ай бұрын
Sounds fantastic!
@davidbaumgardner8374
@davidbaumgardner8374 3 ай бұрын
At 5:54 you mentioned a 4 speed automatic wouldn't it be a 3 speed automatic ?
@ciceroskip1
@ciceroskip1 7 ай бұрын
I had the pleasure, with my older brother, in 1964 of visiting a local garage in Berwyn Illinois where they were building a Mercury Comet with a 427 for drag racing. I can never forget that day.
@godsowndrunk1118
@godsowndrunk1118 8 ай бұрын
I've got a set of Thunderbolt High Riser heads that were ported by Crane back in the day.... they're going on a 468 inch BBM short block I'm having built to replace the worn out 468 Low Riser that was in my 1965 Galaxie 500... Should be fun.
@fasx56
@fasx56 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for such detailed and History covering the 1964 Thunderbolt and how they were developed and came to be such performers. Appreciate the research, video clips and clear Narration covering this race car, Dodge 426 and the Chevrolet drag cars. Depending on who's car and the driver behind the wheel Dodge and the Thunderbolts were winning at different race tracks in the 1960s. Later the 427 SOHC ENGINES became available and raised the bar with faster times then the 64 427s. Loved the Heyday of SS racing starting with injected 283 and 327 Chevrolets and later the 427s. Happy to read and watch the videos which prove there still is enough interest in drag racing to keep these famous cars going.
@Airsally
@Airsally 8 ай бұрын
Had a buddy with a 406 galaxy...it could really tear up some tires. I had a 64 289 Fairlane with tear drop hood and at one time it had 3 × 2 barrel Holly's. And 4 speed . I also had a 64 cyclone comet 4 speed top loader. Fully built it only ran 13's with a C-4 and slicks. Funny my 94 mustang ran 12.85 on just bolt on stuff and slicks. Crazy those thunder bolts ran low 11's back in the day.
@donaldkgarman296
@donaldkgarman296 7 ай бұрын
YEAH THOSE CYCLONES WERE SQUIRLEY , AND HARD ON TIRES
@race8427
@race8427 8 ай бұрын
I agree w/67marlin, the reality is Dodge was not scared but Chevy was.
@moparbee1523
@moparbee1523 8 ай бұрын
Mopar or No Car !
@fatboyhtownholitdown8932
@fatboyhtownholitdown8932 2 ай бұрын
​@@moparbee1523 Mopar might as well have no car
@AntiZOGZone
@AntiZOGZone 17 күн бұрын
​@@fatboyhtownholitdown8932Why? What factory Ford could hang with the 1968 Factory Race Hemi Darts and Barracuda's or the The Dodge Demon's Answer? NONE
@Oscarphone
@Oscarphone 7 ай бұрын
It is important to remember that the Max Wedge cars were all over the place on the street and strip. Big Chevies were scarce and so was the Thunderbolts.
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 2 ай бұрын
@Oscarphone - Ford had just 100 Thunderbolts made for them - 49 were 4 speeds and 51 were automatics. They, unlike the Max Wedge cars, were not production automobiles.
@bradhardy2629
@bradhardy2629 2 ай бұрын
How many lightweight max wedge cars do you think Chrysler made lol. All over the streets and strips my azz. Foolish comments
@brinkee7674
@brinkee7674 8 ай бұрын
The fastest factory car in 66 was the one of one Shelby Dragonsnake 427 CSX3198 which was sold to Haar Ford in Worcester, MA. My dad used to tune it At the 1966 NHRA Winternationals in Pomona, it set the A/SP national records at 10.86 seconds and 127 mph results
@tonykhouri7826
@tonykhouri7826 8 ай бұрын
was that a blue drag purpose built car i think i remember seeing at Norwood eigth mile at night!
@bobbyearls1838
@bobbyearls1838 6 ай бұрын
Tasca Ford had two of them.
@brinkee7674
@brinkee7674 6 ай бұрын
@@tonykhouri7826 It was red when at Haar but may have been blue after they sold it and was called Hanks Bank
@brinkee7674
@brinkee7674 6 ай бұрын
@@bobbyearls1838 Tasca 100% did not have two 427 Dragonsnakes . Do you not know what one of one means. Haar had the only one Shelby ever built. Just google Shelby Dragonsnake 427 CSX 3198 and read Hemmings report on it or others. It resides at Sam Pack's Museum last I knew
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 2 ай бұрын
While the 427 Dragonsnake was a true beast, the 289 version won more races and even a National Championship in B/SP!
@barryrussell4106
@barryrussell4106 8 ай бұрын
One of my favorite cars. Hughbert Platt made those cars the legend they are
@JohnnyButtons
@JohnnyButtons 4 ай бұрын
Those early ‘60s Ford Fairlane and Galaxie models had such pretty body lines.
@annettesurfer
@annettesurfer 3 ай бұрын
The video reminded me of another Ford, but I couldn’t find anything on it in the “Rare Cars” video offering so I’ll mention it here. I found an orange '67 fastback Mustang trade-in on a backlot of a Redford MI Ford dealer in the mid-70’s when I was a young teen. The entire trunk floor pan was gone, presumably to save weight, and all that remained was the rear-mounted starting battery. The engine bay was stuffed with a 390, tube headers, an aluminum high rise intake, a Holley double-pumper carb, a Mallory dual-point distributor, and someone said the engine lobe indicated a race cam but I can’t say for sure. It had a Hurst competition plus shifter and traction bars. Strangers always challenged me at the traffic lights and I just couldn’t resist. I won every race except one when the guy in a ‘67 Mustang coupe started pulling away shortly before a Dearborn cop caught me as I exited onto Michigan Ave. and another pulled the other over on southbound Telegraph. I saw the other guy later and discovered his ‘stang had all the goodies mine had except he only had a 289 but it was the Hi-Po version. Anyway, I nearly lost my license from so many speeding tickets. It didn’t matter if I followed the rules of the road or not, that orange ‘Stang was a cop magnet. So I sold it and bought a fun little roadster that was unassuming…a 1968 Triumph TR-250 convertible. The body of a TR4 with a 6 banger. The ‘69 model became the TR6 with a restyled body. The power to weight ratio made that car a little screamer with a footswitch to control the wipers without having to take my hands off the steering wheel. Good memories.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Sounds like you had yourself a wicked street car
@carlzalesski2975
@carlzalesski2975 8 ай бұрын
Those were brutal cars
@audrybella6405
@audrybella6405 8 ай бұрын
Great video and exceptionally well scripted. Loved it!! Thanks for producing it for us.
@brickwoodward
@brickwoodward 6 ай бұрын
The old Speedvision channel did an engine build show. They selected the most popular American made maximum horsepower engines. The three specific engines I remember were the GM LS-6 or 7, 454 rated at 450 hp by GM. Next was the Ford 427 sideoiler engine with 2 4bbl carburetors. Number 3 was the 426 Chrysler Hemi with the optional magnesium 2-4 intake. All engines were rebuilt to NHRA rules. At that time in the mid-late 60’s, cam companies were taking the stock factory cam specs and modifying the ramps but staying strictly within the factory specifications. The results were; the hemi made 836 hp, the Ford made 786 hp and the GM made a little over 700. I wish I could find and get a copy of that program!! It needs to be shown everywhere!!!!!!
@vernonslone8627
@vernonslone8627 8 ай бұрын
Our 1965 Superstock Hemi powered Dodge Coronet was never afraid of any Ford....
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW Ай бұрын
Dodge sure was afraid back in 60’s they cried about every little thing Ford did …
@vernonslone8627
@vernonslone8627 Ай бұрын
@@CoyoteFTW We didn't cry we just beat up on them...
@michaelholt8590
@michaelholt8590 8 ай бұрын
I seen one of these at the biannual car show at Charlotte Motor Speedway in 1995. It looked badass and when it started it shook the ground.
@whyis45stillalive
@whyis45stillalive 3 ай бұрын
I knew a guy who has one of these. He had 2 Ford GTs, (sold one to the Fast and Furious franchise), numerous ‘vettes, a bunch of other muscle cars, but his all original white Thunderbolt was his favorite. It still had all the NHRA racing regalia. One of the most beautiful cars I’ve ever seen.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 3 ай бұрын
Wow that is a great lineup!
@whyis45stillalive
@whyis45stillalive 3 ай бұрын
@@rarecars3336 He got a *very* lucrative military contract. However, he maintained his humility. He just likes cars. Now he can afford *a* *lot* of the best.
@HEMIPOWER604
@HEMIPOWER604 6 ай бұрын
There Is no denying that is a cool engine and a weapon at that...!!!👍
@etoineschrdlu9382
@etoineschrdlu9382 8 ай бұрын
While I admit that it is fun and interesting to hear about these rare old cars, I also note that these limited production homologation specials were nearly impossible to purchase from a dealership. Most of them only shipped to a dealership as a conduit to a known competitive race shop or if the dealership itself was a known competitive race shop. But the "Win on Sunday, Buy on Monday" mantra did work. I'm sure many went to their Ford dealership and bought a Fairlane with a 427 engine, it just wasn't one of those rare "Thunderbolts", but I'll bet it was pretty darn fast! When Plymouth started making Roadrunners, my Uncle went and bought one. Did he get the one with the 426 Hemi? Nope. He got the 383 version that was significantly less expensive. My aunt would have divorced him if he had spent her home redecorating budget on the Hemi. As it were, steam was coming out her ears when two years later he bought the 440 six-pack crate motor and replaced the 383. She HAD to buy all new draperies AND new living room furniture; HAD TO, she had NO CHOICE! And the really bad news was that Tech Inspection caught on that 1969 Roadrunners were never shipped with a 440 and uncle couldn't run in "Stock" class. But on the bright side, my uncle's '69 Roadrunner was consistently running the quarter in low 11's and high 10's!
@vladtheimpala5532
@vladtheimpala5532 8 ай бұрын
I’ve never driven an all out race car but the fastest one I ever drove was a Plum Purple 69 Roadrunner with a built 383. That was fast enough for me. It was everything I could do to hold the clutch in at a stoplight. I’m a Chevy guy but I did like that Plymouth.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 8 ай бұрын
Dang high 10's is MOVING, thanks for sharing that story!
@etoineschrdlu9382
@etoineschrdlu9382 8 ай бұрын
@@rarecars3336 My uncle was very proud of that car. He had built it to the point where it was barely street drivable. My aunt hated it because that meant she had to ask his permission for her Pinto wagon while the 'runner was torn apart in the garage or race ready. He had it set up strictly for the strip. The suspension's sole purpose was weight transfer and getting hooked up. The transmission was full race. He'd had the compression upped, a full race cam, full race headers, straight pipe exhaust, and he had his precious box of jets that he would change and tune according to the weather forecast. I only went to the track with him once and on the way there he passed a car. It was definitely an OMG moment. It did finally reach a point where he decided (or my aunt 'convinced' him) that the time he was spending on prepping the car was hurting his marriage and he sold the car. Later, after the kids had left the nest and he'd become a successful banker, he joined a BMW club, started doing track days, and eventually became the club track driving instructor.
@ramblerdave1339
@ramblerdave1339 6 ай бұрын
You couldn't get a Fairlane with a 427, from a dealer, that wasn't a Thunderbolt, until 1966, when it was available in the newly enlarged body. Also, 440s were a regular option in the 69 Road Runner, as well as in the GTX (standard equipment) from 67 on. Maybe his was a 68?
@67marlins
@67marlins 8 ай бұрын
As a Ford guy, I doubt Dodge was scared.....but chevy was.
@notwaiting
@notwaiting 8 ай бұрын
Ding! Ding! Ding!
@SealofPerfection
@SealofPerfection 8 ай бұрын
Chevy wasn't worried. GM wasn't even in racing at that time, until about 71.
@67marlins
@67marlins 8 ай бұрын
@Pacfanweb I guess if your 350 is always broken down over at your Grandmother's house, then maybe not.
@SealofPerfection
@SealofPerfection 8 ай бұрын
@@67marlinslol, that doesn't even make sense. The only reason Ford and Mopar had their "happy time" in the mid-to-late 60's was due to GM's corporate ban on racing. Some individuals still back-doored some stuff, but there was no corporate GM racing at all during that time. So Ford/Mopar were free to do whatever, and they surely came up with some cool stuff that was good for those times.
@67marlins
@67marlins 8 ай бұрын
@Pacfanweb Ah, I see another point sailed over your head. Again. Bye.
@user-xx5bf5if5j
@user-xx5bf5if5j 3 ай бұрын
I love ALL the muscle cars of the 70’s when I was racing. All the little tricks & tips we shared. We had a blast and I learned a lot from older guys. It was my favorite years of my life. I think about how lucky I was to experience that time. Sure miss the cruise through’s at Frishes. Great times!
@fuse8052
@fuse8052 8 ай бұрын
Amazing video and thank you for this. I've never heard of this before and this was great to see and hear
@chawenhalo0089
@chawenhalo0089 8 ай бұрын
Never mind how much power these were making, if they had enough torque to lift the front, you're laughing all the way!
@Scottocaster6668
@Scottocaster6668 8 ай бұрын
9:56 That Thunderbolt is Gorgeous. Thanks for the ride along footage. That was great 8:33.
@dustymojave
@dustymojave 7 ай бұрын
In the 1960 y older brother andhis partner bought a 64 Max Wedge Pymouth from Blairs Speed Shop in Pasadena. Early 64 model built in late 63 with a wedge engine. Late 64s built in early 64 got Hemis. In 1968 they had just replaced all the bushings, ball joints and tie rods. That Friday night they took the car to Lyons Drag Strip. My brother drove. Ran brackets. The last run of the night was against a new Camaro with a 427 swapped in it. My brother got down the strip to the lights and the new left tie rod popped off. Hard left turn from the right lane backing into the guard rail, bouncing off. Then the Camaro centerpunched him in the right door. They tumbled down the shutoff lanes. Both cars totally destroyed. My brother was DQ'd for crossing the line. He DID get a time slip that he showed me later and I remember to this day. 127mph @ 11.27 secs. Not bad for a factory stock automobile hitting a guard rail and tumbling the last several yards.
@rctopfueler2841
@rctopfueler2841 2 ай бұрын
it was. sweet seeing my hometown favorite in all its glory. RIP marv tonkin ford
@jimmymccormick142
@jimmymccormick142 8 ай бұрын
Awesome car Ford powered forever baby keep on pulling the knot out of them boties and the horns off them mopars l love it
@bradhardy2629
@bradhardy2629 2 ай бұрын
Keep living your pipe dream. In denial. Hemi smoked um all 68 Hurst hemi Darts and Barracudas ruled the strip boo hoo
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW Ай бұрын
@@bradhardy2629ss/a and ss/b record holders are both 427 thunderbolts …
@patrickmontie9583
@patrickmontie9583 7 ай бұрын
There was a retired ford engineer that always drove his mid 60’s fairlane to the St Ignace Michigan car show. He special ordered it when he retired with a DOHC 427 and manual transmission. I wonder where that car is now. 😊
@mcfast52
@mcfast52 4 ай бұрын
SOHC 427
@wctyre49
@wctyre49 8 ай бұрын
In my home town we had a friend Bill Hilton who owned theBeanBandit , a 64 Ford Fairlane 427.
@srt8rocketship241
@srt8rocketship241 5 ай бұрын
Badass Machine. Scared is a stretch. Love racing.
@rhpicayune
@rhpicayune 8 ай бұрын
Lightweight 1968 hemi darts were probably around 2800-2900 pounds, probably way underrated at 425, realistically making probably 550 hp. These monsters would run nine second quarters from the factory.
@dudeman9582
@dudeman9582 8 ай бұрын
I don't believe that they "came from the factory" with the hemi . I think that all the race-ready" didn't they come standard with the slant six ?????
@JimVaught-qm6gf
@JimVaught-qm6gf 7 ай бұрын
3020 lbs. the ones still running the class tend to be in the 3200-3300 range now, if not a little heavier.
@johntotten4872
@johntotten4872 7 ай бұрын
@@dudeman9582 In 68 they built 500 Darts and 500 Barracudas with the 426 Hemi. Hurst (The shifter company) took them and did the mods. They came with no warranty and were race cars you could order. I am sure if you check YT you can find a video talking about their history. I used to have a pic I found on the net showing the Cudas and Darts outside the Hurst place waiting to get converted.
@michaeldeakin4287
@michaeldeakin4287 6 ай бұрын
@@JimVaught-qm6gf The Hemi is probably around 100# heavier than the 440, I would imagine, the 427 would be similar weight to the 440 but the Fairlane looks smaller than a 68 Dart.
@JimVaught-qm6gf
@JimVaught-qm6gf 3 ай бұрын
Yeah roughly 100 lbs depending what intake and exhaust manifolds/headers. Bare heads roughly 48 vs 70 each between the wedge and Hemi. According to my scales. Ditch the factory iron Hemi exhaust and that’s a load of weight. 2x4 aluminum manifold vs iron single 4 on a stock wedge motor.. good boat anchors 😂
@Mr.Guild1971
@Mr.Guild1971 8 ай бұрын
No specs on their actual win times and gaps in that racing year? AWESOME to finally see this monster covered.Will never afford one for real but dream of a ride in this car so bad. I do have a rare Hotwheels thunderbolt in classic white though...HAHA Along with all my Shelby cars
@michaelraddish7898
@michaelraddish7898 8 ай бұрын
Wimbledon white
@davidvogel6359
@davidvogel6359 8 ай бұрын
still cool to have the model
@timrayburn2461
@timrayburn2461 8 ай бұрын
Great video...and job! Thank you.
@timmypilkerton2835
@timmypilkerton2835 7 ай бұрын
I have a 67 Fairlane but my heart is with the 64
@Bongofurry
@Bongofurry 8 ай бұрын
Perfect Ford powerhouse.
@user-qh9xe6bh1g
@user-qh9xe6bh1g 4 ай бұрын
I Love the thunderbolt God Bless Yall
@robertginther9248
@robertginther9248 8 ай бұрын
Ray Paquet has the best of the best: Factory #001 & has been rumored to have refused quarter million for it. Always wins class @ Indy & still has manual shift. Ray is a genius.
@JP-xx8zd
@JP-xx8zd 8 ай бұрын
he holds the ss/a record with 8.4 in his real thunderbolt FORD POWER RULES
@martinfromseacity2010
@martinfromseacity2010 2 ай бұрын
Great story, reminds me of my youth, Best car I was around was a 64 GTO, it was fast. Thanks
@fasx56
@fasx56 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for such a detailed History of how the Ford Thunderbolt became one of the big stars of the 1960s Drag Strip winners in the very popular Super Stock Class. I wish the factory sponsored drag cars would have lasted longer. I saw Gas Rhonda in a 406 Galaxy race against Hayden Profit in a 409 Belair in Seattle, 1962, the 409 won. Two years later it was Gas Rhonda's turn with his 427 Thunderbolt which you covered so well, my what memories.
@raygomez6212
@raygomez6212 8 ай бұрын
The big three automakers routinely under-reported horsepower ratings for their muscle car engines to keep insurance companies from gouging their owners on rates. So who knows how many ponies the Ford and Chevy 427s and the Chrylser Hemis were actually cranking out.
@user-zd3zi6lk2x
@user-zd3zi6lk2x 7 ай бұрын
THUNDERBOLT ! Hell yeah ! I want one ! !
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 7 ай бұрын
Who doesn't!
@patriciagoffe9173
@patriciagoffe9173 8 ай бұрын
OH MY GOSH !!!! had a model as a kid this is one of my favourite ever cars ..I'm in New Zealand so will never seen one ..awesome upload
@baronoflivonia.3512
@baronoflivonia.3512 6 ай бұрын
My maternal Grandfather worked at Ford Engineering from my birth until 1975 when he retired0. First he was at Mercury when they were on Livernois in Detroit, then in 1050's he moved to new Engineering facility on Michigan Ave. in Dearborn. That is where they held their little shows for employee's on a special Sunday. I remember when the GT's came home, and were unloaded from a trailer in the finish order. He retired as head of Dyno Lab in 75. He contributed to the 65 Indy motor and got a plaque with plastic model of engine, brownish block with chrome intake and exhaust, intake was injection on side that was usually exhaust and exhaust was in between cylinders. He also contributed to Cleveland Head Design. My 1st car that I bought with money I earned was a dark blue 1972 Gran Torino Sport, and I have been looking for that car since 1978. I met a lot of Ford NASCAR drivers in late 60's early 70's, and that is sport wich held his interest until he passed in 2001.
@CsaW4rri0r
@CsaW4rri0r 8 ай бұрын
Nice video. Pretty sure it would've been the Chevy 409 competing in that era.
@429supercj
@429supercj 8 ай бұрын
409 was only for a short while in 63 by 64 Chevy was using a 427
@jamesblair9614
@jamesblair9614 8 ай бұрын
It was a race only 427 version of the 348-409 W engine family, nothing to do with the Mk IV 427 or the 427 Mystery Motor, different animals.
@mrbcam2
@mrbcam2 8 ай бұрын
The Thunderbolt kicked ass
@flee4357
@flee4357 7 ай бұрын
Saw one race at Edmonton speedway alberta against all dodges available. Never lost a race. Hard to take as a dodge man
@frankjohnson6342
@frankjohnson6342 8 ай бұрын
It was a nice “story“ but the 1964 Race Hemi would have no trouble covering a smaller and lighter Thunderbolt and in 1968 when Mopar showed up with Race Hemi’s in Dart’s and Barracuda’s it was really no competition.
@earlrichardson385
@earlrichardson385 8 ай бұрын
…..everybody lies about horsepower😉.
@davidrobins4025
@davidrobins4025 8 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@paulabes4220
@paulabes4220 8 ай бұрын
In 1979 my best friend had a mint 64 Farlane. At that time a working man with a loan from the bank could afford one. My best friend had tracked one down in Washinton state. This was done pre internet so you can imagine tracking cars down in those days it was painful. Sadly, he was in the negotiation stage when he was killed in a car crash. We lost him and his beautiful car that night.
@jamesbranner4029
@jamesbranner4029 8 ай бұрын
It was not a hemi killer Nascar outlawed the hemi in 1965 because they were damn near unbeatable!
@philsocks3386
@philsocks3386 7 ай бұрын
Not true, Nascar ban 427 ford cammer engine.
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 3 ай бұрын
They both were banned guys! Do some reading on the subject.
@67marlins
@67marlins 8 ай бұрын
I think Mercury had a version too, but it was based off of the next restyle ( the much better looking 1966 and 1967 ). I think the Fairlane was called an "A/FX" if a 427 racer....and the Mercury Comet was called a "B/FX" with that 427....I think.
@steveford6373
@steveford6373 8 ай бұрын
A/FX & B/FX were different classes A/FX generally had the big block and the B/FX would have then hi-po 289.
@67marlins
@67marlins 8 ай бұрын
@@steveford6373 OK, thanks. That makes sense.
@HI-RISER
@HI-RISER 8 ай бұрын
I'm not aware of any 64s in AFX, not sure. I think any AfX cars were 63 hard tops with 406s.
@daleflinchum3244
@daleflinchum3244 8 ай бұрын
Sox & Martin won the 1964 Winternationals in a A/FX Mercury Comet.
@phanrangsam
@phanrangsam 7 ай бұрын
In 1964 a Salesman from Nicholson Ford in Hartselle, Alabama picked up his Thunderbolt with a Farm Trailer He was Jim "Country Boy" Cochran was from here. I was 17 at the time and in a small town most of the young guys were Ford all the Way! We went with Jim to Drag Strips all over Alabama to watch him run, He was a Big Man and Really nice to all of us. I got to Meet Pat Grey with his Thunderbolt, also Don "Big Daddy" Garlits (?) driving his "Swamp Fox" watched he and Jim Throwing Silver Dollars at a Line for Big Money to us! Jim and the "Country Boy" raced at Courtland, Air Base (closed down) all Cement. He Raced at Decatur, Drag Strip, and Jakes, at Moulton, Ala. just to name a few around! I ended up buying a 390 GT Hi Po from him when I came Home from Korea in 68 and a 1969 Cobra Jet just before I left for Vietnam (left it with my Wife of 32 days) I still have a 1970 428 Cobra Jet Mach 1 and a 69 Mach 1 with 351 Cleveland. I'm getting too Old to Hot Rod any More! But had a Ball in the 60's watching the Big Blocks Run, Kids now days Don't what Good Cars Sound Like!!
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 2 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right about kids today being clueless as to what strong engine cars sound like. They think a Subaru WRX with a coffe can exhaust sounds good. I personally think they sound like flatulent snowmobiles! LOL We may be old, but we have seen and heard the best ever!!
@johnpatmos1722
@johnpatmos1722 2 ай бұрын
1964 Ford Fairlane was my first car, (circa 1985).
@CJColvin
@CJColvin 8 ай бұрын
Could you imagine in the 64 Ford Thunderbolt had the almighty 427 SOHC 2V Cammer V8?
@oldskolacura9798
@oldskolacura9798 8 ай бұрын
Yes that's the one I was thinking nascar had banned
@barrycuda3769
@barrycuda3769 8 ай бұрын
Actually they dont have the sohc 427 engine , it's the 427 FE push rod engine.
@feydespiel.
@feydespiel. 8 ай бұрын
​@barrycuda3769 he said..can you imagine that engine fitted..he never said it was fitted to the thunderbolt...
@barrycuda3769
@barrycuda3769 8 ай бұрын
@@feydespiel. Oh, it's just that he said "in" instead of " if" , must have been a typo . I agree , an sohc in a Thunderbolt would be awesome, and it's been done with Fairlane gassers .
@paulhenson4434
@paulhenson4434 8 ай бұрын
​@@barrycuda3769What excatly was a 'gasser'? If ya could explain?
@daryllect6659
@daryllect6659 8 ай бұрын
The Dodges and Plymouths weren't "scared" (afraid) to race Thunderbolts in the automatic classes. The Mopar Super Stockers annihilated the automatic Thunderbolts, and the Chryslers would all run lower ETs.
@anthonytomaro8278
@anthonytomaro8278 8 ай бұрын
Ford C6 transmissions consume the most power to operate compared to everything else. Not surprised with the outcome.
@HI-RISER
@HI-RISER 8 ай бұрын
Ford used the Lincoln automatics. They were terrible off the line. A lot of racers replaced them with Toploaders or Super T-10s. @@anthonytomaro8278
@daryllect6659
@daryllect6659 8 ай бұрын
@@anthonytomaro8278 "Ford C6 transmissions consume the most power to operate compared to everything else." Sounds like a poorly designed transmission...
@M4A3
@M4A3 7 ай бұрын
​@anthonytomaro8278 don't forget the FMX. Similar design with a cast iron case lol
@robertbihn3005
@robertbihn3005 3 ай бұрын
I was going to NHRA Great Meadows, NJ almost every Sunday 1962 /'66 , truth is these are Factory Experimental gems They didn't have any competition, mostly ran something in hot gas classes. Not Landy through. Those were the good old days. We would stand 25' behind the line and get pieces of rubber spat out at us. Almost stand next to the cars on the line. Till an official would chase us away. They didn't have restricted areas then, considered everyone had common sense ! These BOLTS were more like a Falcon, beautiful showroom bad ass classics ! A/FX. ~ 1964 same track & year Garlits gets 200 MPH
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 3 ай бұрын
What a time to be alive - great story thank you for sharing!
@cptkirkp
@cptkirkp Ай бұрын
This was actually a pivotal moment (although shortly lived) in auto design.
@NobilityandLoyalty
@NobilityandLoyalty 7 ай бұрын
The Thunderbolt ran well during the first half of the 1964 season in its lightened state. Chrysler rolled out the Race Hemi at the U. S. Nationals and trounced the T -Bolts running .5 quicker and 3 miles per hour faster. This result continued and Ford introduced the 427 Cammer engine in 1965. Unfortunately, Ford never offered the 427 SOHC in a vehicle. Please review the results.
@randycoursey7230
@randycoursey7230 7 ай бұрын
Thunderbolts won the championship that year, so No.
@NobilityandLoyalty
@NobilityandLoyalty 7 ай бұрын
They're dominance lasted a whopping 6 months
@randycoursey7230
@randycoursey7230 6 ай бұрын
@@NobilityandLoyalty They did very well, I was actually there.
@bobleenko512
@bobleenko512 6 ай бұрын
Uhhh incorrect
@NobilityandLoyalty
@NobilityandLoyalty 6 ай бұрын
Check the record book post US FINALS
@chuckselvage3157
@chuckselvage3157 8 ай бұрын
Phil Featherstones T Bolt ran a world record 9.2 secs quarter mile on modern drag slicks. Not sure about the horsepower but at the very least @500.
@anthonysiler4938
@anthonysiler4938 8 ай бұрын
I saw that vid, they said it was "modernized" but with all stock components with modern tires. It just seems a little far to say modernized with just tires .
@davidgraham7325
@davidgraham7325 8 ай бұрын
Yeah at least 600 if you ever see 👀 one do the quarter mile
@edwardpasserini6138
@edwardpasserini6138 2 ай бұрын
I was 15 in 64 and man every weekend meant going to the track, I think the only thing I didn't remember was the wiper arm bit, now that's cool. thanks for sharing ! Oh yeah, I was driving back then without a license
@stevegabbert9626
@stevegabbert9626 8 ай бұрын
That maroon color was awesome! (Ok...ok...burgundy) Love that color, and yes, that 427 was ok too.😊
@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195
@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 8 ай бұрын
Obviously 426 Hemi cars were not available yet but to me the really glaring part missing from this rather poor video is ZERO mention of the difference between low, medium and high rise 427 Ford engines and the effect those differences had on the 427 Ford engine horsepower. Earlier 427 Fords were all low risers except some factory backed racers. A current day 427 Thunderbolt high riser with the benefit of a clutchless 4 speed and a ladder bar rear suspension and a bit more compression and a roller cam and 50 years of 427 Ford experience currently runs very low 8 second times. I think as manufactured with a bit of experienced tuning the 64 Thunderbolt engine would produce about 525 flywheel horsepower. NOT A STREET ENGINE but a made for racing special side oiler 427.
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 8 ай бұрын
Very nice, I do love the galaxy and fairlane, reckon about 550 hp all day long 👍
@ComfortRoller
@ComfortRoller 4 ай бұрын
I grew up in the backseat of a 64 Fairlane sports coupe. It was a mild custom driver my dad had to compensate for being a dad. I really liked dropping the windows and cruising. Late 70s-80s. I always hoped someone got it and made a tribute.
@rottman542
@rottman542 7 ай бұрын
My 2nd car was a 64 fairlane it was another guys project car 289 3spd which i had finished to get it on the road. It had dual points Mallory ignition and I loved it. Every chev had to race me from that point, I lost a few but I won a few too. It was a great time to be young, gas was cheap and a heavy foot to boot...
@clintonsmith9931
@clintonsmith9931 8 ай бұрын
As I lived thru those years, the very fast Ford was very rare. The 426 hemi was rare except in a few places. I saw a hemi in west Texas , very few and the owners would get wild hairs and bend rod or stretch rods. There were 409 Chevys on every corner. There were 413 plymouths on every corner driving on the street . The common working stiff could afford a 409 or 413. Saw a few 406 Fords on the street but as you said too heavy, too slow. A light Plymouth with cross ram and a tuned 413 couldn’t be beat for the street.
@moparbee1523
@moparbee1523 8 ай бұрын
Mopar or No Car !
@JP-xx8zd
@JP-xx8zd 8 ай бұрын
funny because i remember the 409 chevy blowing up couldn't keep up with 427 Ford between the 406 Fordand 409 chevy lets just say the reason I'm a FORD man because that 409 chevy was turd. The 409s were leaving bell housings and other parts on the drag strips every Sunday. The 409 was NOT a good engine!
@sparkywirenut
@sparkywirenut 7 ай бұрын
409 was one of chevys' worst blunders .. superceded by their 348 ... @@JP-xx8zd
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 3 ай бұрын
​@@JP-xx8zd- Oh, I don't know. It seemed to work OK in the trucks it was first built for! LOL
@rayvonthornton
@rayvonthornton 2 ай бұрын
Well I can say this growing up in a small town my dad and uncles ran ford's I have a 64 Fairlane 500 myself and other old hotrods but my uncle has a 66 Fairlane gta still 390 3 duces automatic and my dad swears that it was unbeatable back in the day he said it would eat the chevys and the hemi with little effort
@BrandonLeeBrown
@BrandonLeeBrown 8 ай бұрын
The Fairlane chassis was based on the Falcon chassis, with a slightly larger car on it. The 1964 Thunderbolt 427 had high riser port heads and intake manifold. The Thunderbolt automatic transmission was based on the Lincoln Continental automatic transmission and not the standard Ford big block transmission.
@daryllect6659
@daryllect6659 8 ай бұрын
And the Mopar 'matics would beat the Ford automatics in ALL the automatic classes.
@jackbower8671
@jackbower8671 8 ай бұрын
Love these videos brother
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 8 ай бұрын
Thanks man, glad you enjoy them!
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 3 ай бұрын
Just to correct your statement that the Thunderbolt was a factory built racer. Ford was not set up to build this radical machine on their assembly lines, so sub contracted with Dearborn Steel Tubing Co. to build it and make the many modifications necessary to cut additional weight where at all possible.
@waynegilchrist1596
@waynegilchrist1596 8 ай бұрын
The 64 Fairlane was a fair car if you stayed in your lane! 😊😅😂 Actually a friend had one and he swore the ho was 580 hp! I don't know but it was one bad-ass Mo-Shin at the strip,!
@merc6
@merc6 8 ай бұрын
The mid 60s Fairlanes were dominating at the drag strips in the 70s. They are just cool as hell to see them in the road today. I own a 65 with a very gutless 289.
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 3 ай бұрын
@merc6 - Be nice when talking the 289 block! The 4 Weber carbed 289 in the Cobra Daytona Coupe was good for 390hp and 197 mph on the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans! Also, the Dragonsnake 289 Cobras set more records and won many more drag races than the 427 version did.
@merc6
@merc6 3 ай бұрын
@Loulovesspeed trust me... I know. I'd like my 289 to sound like a gt350. Just a high revving monster. It's at the shop at the moment being gone through top to bottom just in time for spring. Eventually I will rebuild it and hope to get around 350 hp with factory heads. It is a bone stock 289 with a 2barrel carb with only 190hp. That was in 1965. Probably has less now. It never had a rebuild. Still has good compression.
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 2 ай бұрын
@@merc6- I had a used '66 Mustang 289, 2 bbl. Cruisomatic that got me back and forth to college for 4 years. Sold it with 143,000 mi. and it still ran fine, no oil burning that so many Chevy small blocks are known for!
@paulstorm9933
@paulstorm9933 4 ай бұрын
Loved it!!!!
@justicews
@justicews 8 ай бұрын
I saw these Thunderbolts race at the local drag strips. They ate the Plymouth and Dodge Hemis for lunch.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 8 ай бұрын
So awesome that you got to see these actually run!
@mypronouniswtf5559
@mypronouniswtf5559 8 ай бұрын
Dodge/Plymouth were not scared of that car!
@moparbee1523
@moparbee1523 8 ай бұрын
Mopar or No Car !
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