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[@SilverTrill]

Intro 0:01 Products & Prices Test 0:48 Concentration ratio Test 5:07 Quality of Product Instructions Test 6:47 Degreasing Power Test 22:38 Stain Removal Test 25:18 Residue Test 26:49 Discolouration of Leather Test 27:15 Tyre Cleaning Test 29:29 Wet Out Surface Tension Test 30:37 Sutability For Colycarb Test 31:52 Ph Levels 33:40 Steel plate test 34:16 Aluminium Plate Test 36:11 Test Results and breakdown from 13th place to 4th place 38:42 Top 3 🥇🥈🥉 55:23 1st Place Winner 🔥😎💪🏾 59:38

[@ForensicDetailing]

Thx u kindly sir

[@SilverTrill]

@@ForensicDetailing it's the least I can do for helping us all with your knowledge ,time and effort in giving us these videos over the years family 🔥😎👊🏾💨

[@r.k862]

Thank you

[@CesarMartinez-br5qu]

THANK YOU!

[@randomstoragespace]

Thanks mate

[@jamesmoirano4271]

Wow, the attention to detail in this review is second to none 💥 Just love all the hard work, fairness, care and attention you put into these mega tests Jon - amazing! So versatile these APC’s and can even handle a greasy mullet 🤣 I’m loving the BHSHD at 1:10 and 1:100 - my favourite 🤩

[@georgina_gsm]

Standing ovation for the amount of work gone into this. Hugely informative video John thank you! Also delighted Surfex won 😁🇬🇧

[@imdeplorable2241]

Absolutely agree. A lot of work on the testing phase and then, the man has to edit and assemble a video! Phew! 🥵 Well done, sir. Well done.👏👍 And, thank you.

[@SALSimon89]

Bilt hamber mostly win all of his tests

[@petersmith7126]

​@@SALSimon89that's because they work the best

[@decker0373]

Never used anything other than Surfex HD in the short time I've been a weekend warrior, and that's all down to your earlier videos Jon. So pleased it came out top. Great job, thanks Jon.

[@davidmartins4666]

Your dedication to the science of detailing is 2nd to none. This info is worth being paid for! Thank you for your hard work 💎

[@Falcon5ive]

I wish I had 1 hour to watch this video, that's asking bit much from your viewers but I appreciate your effort.

[@ekialkovic4150]

I will call this THE greatest detailing video on KZbin, period!

[@limmingjun7930]

Love green star for exterior and pol star for interior

[@thestigisme2349]

Great job, Jon! Massive respect for all the work you put in to give these results! I find Optimum No Rinse to be an effective and cheap light cleaner for all interior surfaces, especially glass. Just clean with wet microfiber towel and wipe dry.

[@azamatbagatov7486]

I’ve been waiting for this and it’s finally here! Brilliant and in depth video as always John.

[@D992]

Thanks for taking the time to do this John :-). I've been using Surfex HD for over 15 years and it never lets me down. A superb product and a worthy winner.

[@Fantic1980]

The problem with your scoring is, if I just use tap water and sell it cheap, make safe on leather/metal/plastic then it's going to gain a lot of marks. CarChem is basically useless, might as well be tap water, but it scored more marks than a product that IS good at cleaning.

[@simonbradshaw3708]

What a mega review, must have taken you a very long time. I'm not surprised by the winner Bilt Hamber seem to make some really good products. Thanks for the video, look forward to the next one.

[@01123581321341]

Surfex HD winning the test….we all saw it coming ! You were banging its drum years ago and despite the industry hurling what it can at it Surfex comes out on top still….I love the whole Autoglanz range so seeing it 2nd was great. Huge respect for the time, effort and care to make over an hour for us to watch. Top job !

[@css172]

I've got 5L Surfex HD will last me many many years! 👍 Great work with the reviews John!

[@davidboyce6427]

Hi Jon I like Purple power, Extra Tough and 3D interior cleaner. Now the first two are APC’s👍

[@hartlanddetailer5670]

In the States, I use 'Super Clean" degreaser or APC. It cost $22.00 (US) for 2.5 gallons (320 oz) or 19 liters. It is available at most US retailers, no need to order online. It can be diluted 4:1 for tires, engines or other exterior surfaces. And 10:1 for interiors, plus has many uses around the house. You get this Most Bang for the Buck, for this product. Jon, thanks for your time & effort on producing these videos.

[@themikeroberts]

I think super clean may not rank well in this test as it's quite harsh. It's SDS says it has a pH of 12.5-13.8, and causes skin, eye, and inhalation irritation. And Super Clean says do not use on: aluminum, prolonged contact w/ paint, prolonged contact w/ glass.

[@hartlanddetailer5670]

@@themikeroberts Michael thanks for your comment. I am a car enthusiast a non professional, I like to use products that are simple to use and may have multiple functions. I use the KISS principle (keep it simple stupid) plus it is easily available at a retail store. I am NOT saying this product is superior to others, but works for me.

[@bigguwapbrixks187]

Bro what would we do without Johnny boy ? ❤

[@Bendixon32]

Well done on the test 👍 very thorough. Best APC I've used it's a trade product and it's from Auto Rae Chem and it's A10-1 and you can use that on anything and it's a very good cleaner on tyres, interior, upholstery and leather. Can also use it as a wheel cleaner & Pre wash. Really good stuff £58 for 25L 👍 I like products that do the job first time of asking, to save time. And A10-1 ✔️ the boxes

[@damienm8416]

Well that is a surprise . AG Infinite did not work for me in any kind of dilution I ended up spraying it neat on my tyres just to get rid of it .

[@toddk1479]

Meguiars is great, I use it. Be very careful not to mix to strong as it will residue pretty bad. It will stain leather if to strong and will also stain porous plastic.

[@ForensicDetailing]

is it good if it can do that?

[@SuperNight25]

Hi John. Maybe the question isn’t related to the video but I still think it’s a interesting question that I’ve been tormenting myself with while on holidays. I find myself wanting to clean the car while away but really don’t have access to proper equipment. No power washer no snow foam Just a hose and a bucket. A video or even a reply on the matter would be interesting. Maybe I haven’t asked the question properly but I hope you get what I mean. Cheers John from a sunny Wexford in the Republic of Ireland ✌️

[@SE43]

Easy. ONR (or similarly equivalent rinseless wash).

[@NipponStiqqyPaint]

Look into rinseless wash products, my d00d

[@SuperNight25]

@@SE43 interesting I watched the video on ONR yesterday. I thought it was great but unfortunately it’s not available in Ireland and would have to buy it on Amazon. At least I know for next year

[@SuperNight25]

@@NipponStiqqyPaint interesting I watched the video on ONR yesterday. I thought it was great but unfortunately it’s not available in Ireland and would have to buy it on Amazon. At least I know for next year

[@ForensicDetailing]

yer I think and ONR or mackees wash is the way to go mate.

[@fox3shooter]

Such a decent in-depth review all from a nice user perspective covering all uses. The time involved was worthy of thanks John, impressive. Now if you would strip down and do costings on those over expensive DA polishers and show a cost/value build strip downs to prove that they are ripping us off with the component/rrp cost.

[@AmanOU2be]

#3 it is. I can't find #1 or #2 in the US in the smaller bottle. The larger one is more than I would use in 100 years.

[@DJDAVEDREAM]

I recently picked up some products from slims and the koch was on offer so i grabbed a bottle, mixed it at 1/2 a ltr in to a 5ltr can & topped up with water. I cant fault it yes not the best degreaser at that concentration but on door shuts leather very pleased with it though some discolouration of black plastic seat backs if left on for a minute 🤦‍♂️ ( phone call ) removed with a trim sheen product, Overall though pretty decent results

[@APASSIONFORDETAILING]

I knew the bilt hamber would get into the top 3

[@muchachogrande2019]

I'm really really glad to see you agreed with what I mentioned in the last video about the wording and titling being an important factor to consider (All purpose cleaner vs multi surface cleaner) and the overall implications on whether or how a product should be judged based on what it claims to do. I believe that you hit the nail on the head here exactly! By just looking at the problem from a different angle it seems sorta brilliant, and judging based on the clarity and claims of the instructions themselves is the perfect way to do it. Amazing job here on the video Jon. It stands in great service to the detailing community and we all owe you our thanks.

[@ianwilson2968]

Just started watching, has to be Surfex surely?

[@SB68SS]

yes if Bilt Hamber is in the test, it will win, no matter how good the other brands are,

[@jkroemer2685]

Should have got a hold of some Optimum Power Clean! Stuff works pretty damn good

[@rogerandout808]

Thanks Jon, that was a cracking test!

[@ForensicDetailing]

thank you so much roger appreciate it

[@DavidC1]

Jon is autobrite direct in this test?

[@WolfAbarth]

John, what's your take on using household APCs? I would love to see you test a supermarket household APC against the winner of this.

[@ForensicDetailing]

not massivly into using household stuff mate.

[@DavidC1]

Bilt Hamber allllllllll the wayyyyyyy

[@grahambell9831]

First class, in depth review. 👏

[@martinhorvath181]

Ultracoat APC+ is the best

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

I like how you try your best sticking to a consistent scientific method. Hypothesize, experiment, control variables to the best of your knowledge and determine unknown variables by tweaking known ones. Also like that you did virtually every material to be found in a car. No one puts manufacturers claims to test the way you do John!!!

[@martinsgarage2791]

John this is a great review and helped me have the confidence to keep using my products. Brilliant work.

[@RobertSmith-di5ll]

tip top as usual - well done - very useful

[@insefc]

Amazing review, I have never seen something so detailed. Just one question: what is the dilution ratio for the PH test?

[@ForensicDetailing]

if your going to measure PH its best to do it neat. PH is meaningless though people do not understand it. PH12 could be milder and less caustic than PH7 for example. Its more about chemical function. PH at best is a finger in the wind.

[@insefc]

Thanks, my question was because for example the PH of Koch Chemie GS is advertiesed as 12.5 and you measured it 10, so I guess it was diluted.

[@cesarcarvalho9118]

We need your thoughts on Labocosmetica next ;)

[@DavidC1]

LOVE THE MEGA TESTS JON KEEP THEM COMING!!! THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!

[@torocars9227]

Purple power. Best value and performance in usa.

[@sthildas4857]

A lifetime G101 user, yes you need to know the safe ratio, the most versatile product ever made. From car engine decreasing to carpet cleaning.

[@ForensicDetailing]

its a no BS very powerfull APC with brilliant clear instructions and surface limitations clearly stated.

[@peterd5496]

Dear gawd, over an hour... better stick the kettle on.

[@bluerineimb1148]

Hi John so pleased to see surfex HD the winner just got my first bottle 3 days ago so many reviews on this product saying how good it is so I thought see what John thinks of it so on your review I got some & love done my e60 wheels last night & you really don't need wheel cleaner if you use surfex neat wheels came up the cleanest every just useing surfex hd so in my opinion it's a winner of a APC

[@D992]

Just be careful with it near the brake callipers - it can strip the lube they put on the pads to stop them rattling in the calliper. :-)

[@bluerineimb1148]

@@D992 thanks for that John I'll cover calipers in future

[@zzhughesd]

I find APC so so cheap. And then you dilute upto 100/200 times . It’s so cheap one not to worry about . I’m happy Surfex BH. Thanks videos on APC. Would never have heard of BH before watching your videos

[@Detailzlondon]

Autosmart , bilthamber and koch chemie make amazing products. trade rated gimmick free branding and packaging.

[@danpaul4975]

How about a price comparison for the amount of product needed to achieve the same results? Not just APC but other stuff. How good is a cheap cost product if you need twice as much concentration to get as good a result as a product that "seems" slightly more expensive?

[@ForensicDetailing]

can get a bit complicated but if you give a set of marks for highest usable concentrations you sort of are factoring that in.

[@COPD_REHAB_GUY]

I wasn’t surprised, I have been hooked on BH products since I started detailing. Non detailing use which is absolutely brilliant, I have a gas over glass hob in the kitchen, which is a nightmare to get smear free, a 1% surfex mix, fine spray over the hob and wiped off leaves it gleaming and grease free, if 1% can do that on a cooking hob. It shows it can handle anything

[@pigeonpoo1823]

Totally agree. It's superb everywhere. 1 to 5 is for outside of the car, tires, engine bay, bicycles. 1 to 50ish for kitchen, bathroom, etc. Flash and Method don't get a look in anymore. 1l lasts me an eternity, so if I use a bit too much, I simply don't care cos it's cheap.

[@JackRR15]

Great video great work. I wish optimum power clean was in here, considering that. Currently have MutliX but yeah was looking for a more safer (says can't use metal). Tickles me to... point of it is for my engine bay cleaning

[@dustin3700]

I just ordered a 25 liter container of surfed hd for $140 usd from clean garage which is a awesome deal since 5 liters is usually just under 50 shipped. I’m replacing about 5 products with this stuff after using it a lot and loving it especially the vary mild smell compared to most other cleaners.

[@martinporras2670]

was it on sale? lol thats a steal

[@stanradu-andrei4020]

Please add ADBL to your tests. Very cheap with good to great results!

[@kwl189]

Second this John. Apparently ABDL APC is very good.

[@DavidC1]

Jon what do you mean by wetting out a surface?

[@ForensicDetailing]

Surfactants wet out by have very low surface tension. So put a drop of a surfactant on a panel and it spreads more than a drop of water for example which has higher surface tension. So good surfactants wet out a surface well.. poor ones can have high surface tension and roll off more

[@DavidC1]

@@ForensicDetailing i see, ive used bilt hamber at your suggestion for a pre wash and it stripped all the road film off.

[@robinwyn3089]

Awesome….cheers Jon👌🏻

[@JohyeahM]

Jesus, this must've taken forever. I'd imagine you were dreaming about APC's for weeks. Fair play. Great content.

[@jonandlisa2000]

Bill Hamber really hard to beat on price and quality/results

[@brasileiroadulto]

Gosto muito dos testes. Muito obrigado!

[@ForensicDetailing]

Thx u sir

[@ShineYourLightDetailing]

This was fantastic, thank you very much! 👍🏼👍🏼

[@_GandalfTheGrey_]

Surfed HD is currently $58 per 5 Liters on amazon 😂

[@ForensicDetailing]

USA has to pay loads for it :(

[@_GandalfTheGrey_]

@@ForensicDetailing Yeah tell me about it.

[@DavidC1]

Jon, i use autofoam diluted heavily for an apc works great!

[@-zerocool-]

Bit dissapointed in Green Star, always worked well for me, concentration matters tho.

[@mbrunskill]

Thanks for including a polycarb test John, very important for motorbikes with screens

[@pigeonpoo1823]

As an all rounder, BH is unbeatable. As a straight-up degreaser, Screwfix's No Nonsense Degreaser is superb for about £10. Use it for the dirtiest bits of the engine bay and my bicycle drivetrain. Way more powerful than BH, but it's use case scenario is much more limited.

[@dmitryb6634]

Try an Italian brand LABOCOSMETICA LABOCOSMETICA DUCTILE- APC LABOCOSMETICA GLICO

[@KreKeriS911]

Thanks to you, I`ve been using Surfex HD for years now. Love it.

[@dimmacommunication]

Autoglanz have been giving sediments in the bottles ,but works well

[@WolfAbarth]

Sometimes I think plain old water would come out well in these tests, no residue, low cost, infinite dilution, safe on all surfaces. I think it would come at least mid table. ;)

[@paul6749]

We could see the winner long before John moved the camera🙂

[@jamietaylor3075]

What's surfex like as a pre wash ? Will it affect existing protection

[@ForensicDetailing]

It's fine big use touchlesz m8

[@mkygod]

is Super Clean not available in the UK? in the US, its among the most widely available and economical degreasers on the market. Also, Simple Green APC is pretty common as well.

[@hartlanddetailer5670]

As you know, it is the most reasonable priced APC that I'm aware of. I buy 2.5 gallons for about $22. Has multi-uses, I even use it around the house.

[@ForensicDetailing]

Sounds good for USA guys

[@tier1detailing]

​@@ForensicDetailing whenever you want atomic start a Forensic Detailing USA Channel Jon, let me know. It'll most likely end up being like Top Gear USA, maybe half as good as the Brit version, but I'm game

[@scottward8446]

What's best for getting the burnt on brake dust off alloys ie the black spots from an alloy that hasn't been looked after

[@ForensicDetailing]

Acid m8.. wonderwheels

[@cameronstevenson5894]

John this is amazing work hats off to you this is why your no.1 for all things detailing

[@SuperJapierdole]

detailing at the best. have no words. you rock!

[@kyfisher3662]

would also be great to see what you think of 'dawn dish soap' as alot of people are using this as an APC

[@soundworksvectra]

Awesome showdown. Which would you advise between Verso, Multistar and Valet Pro as a regular use pleasant smelling apc? I only miss out the mighty Surfex as I've heard it doesn't smell too great?

[@ForensicDetailing]

I remember m8. But yer surfex has no scent.

[@KevinsFawcett]

Whats best on headliner fabric greasy hand prints?

[@ForensicDetailing]

Surfex. Any that did well at degrease

[@DjNikGnashers]

Thank you Jon, such a detailed and thorough test, much better than anyone else on YT. No surprised BH won, all of their products are very good if not the absolute best, at the same time being amazingly cheap.

[@מדינט]

The question is the effect on coating, paint, being the strongest dose not mean it's the safest to use.

[@thomasbrown5148]

Whats your opinion on k2 apc pro?

[@doublesdetailer7709]

The Control of Substances Hazardous to Health Regulations 2002 Regulation 6. Maybe a quick 2 minute vid on the products that have online MSDS or COSHH.

[@m4fsj]

Hi John, Any chance you reviewing Aenso products?

[@ForensicDetailing]

No plans to m8 but that can change

[@tomaskonicek7683]

Surfex is best. I new it 😎 But i noticed, that i must be really careful and don't make contact with glass. Its pain in the ass to remove residue from it. Do you have similar experience??

[@ForensicDetailing]

Not noticed this my friend

[@davidevans4609]

Holy crap, John! How long do these videos take to film?? Crazy dedication. Have you got a video planned on how to keep your car clean if you live in a hosepipe ban area?

[@richlee509]

Waterless wash

[@NoFix]

@@richlee509 rinseless wash u mean.

[@A7mag3ddon]

In my mind they are an APC - All Purpose Cleaner, NOT an all surface cleaner. Need to bear that in mind.

[@ForensicDetailing]

All purpose should mean all surface no? if they are not suitable for a certain surface then they can't be suitable for all purposes. Dunno. Semantics.

[@keeno79]

Take a bow son!

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[@CHANNELCHECKER381]

I've used meguiars APC on tons of interior and exterior surfaces. I've used it tons without gloves. It works great for tires and wheel wells. I've used it on siding for the house and to clean off my mowers and tractors. Works great!

[@ForensicDetailing]

Yer it's good problem is they all work. But I think price and performance is needed to win these tests megs is expensive in UK.

[@CHANNELCHECKER381]

@@ForensicDetailing I bought a gallon yesterday in US for $23. One gallon makes several gallons for me. Thanks for the videos! Keep up the good work.

[@OmgitsdeziLife]

Thanks for the video!!!

[@tomasis7]

i find your videos frustrating because lack of graphics and presentation of all products in a simple pictures. A lot work you did but it is sadly missed in overall context.

[@ForensicDetailing]

Your in luck theres millions of channels copying what I do with good graffic's and presentation etc... Problem is though the things I do well is the actual testing , aka the bit that's important. That's the bit you can fake.

[@SuperchargedLlama]

Well-done that man! Fantastic tests, brilliantly put together and narrated. Nice to see you doing the long form stuff dude, it's what you are brilliant at.

[@Horyka98]

Hi , in Romania i use koch chemie who's very good for me specially :) in combination with a steamer very good for detailing :D

[@bhtradinggroup5340]

Forgot all about surfex tbh. Then when you showed it in the price comparison I knew it was game over lol.

[@bobjit252]

Would kitchen all purpose cleaners be just as good as these are pretty cheap to buy

[@ForensicDetailing]

short answer would be I dont know. it would depend on the product. but the kitchen cleaners come ready mixed. the winners in these tests are true APC's and give you high value due to their concentrations. so its cheaper and better to use these. ktchen cleaners are not generally safe for carpet or extraction systems.

[@live.drive.mod.7290]

That UK price for Multi X. Wow….

[@RobertSmith-di5ll]

Marvellous but quite long - watched it over 3 sessions

[@roberts3423]

You must try Bio-circle CB 100, that shit is amazing, non toxic, non flammable, removes grease and any dirt with ease. Bought it in a local hardware store in Sweden for about 23$ 0.5 liter. Atleast try 1 bottle, you won't be dissapointed.

[@01123581321341]

Carpro spelling the product wrong - not the only CarPro label to do so Jon - something about the Korean brands. Have you read the TAC System labels…? They’re hilarious ! 🤣 (e.g. “store product upright or it might lick out”)🤣

[@markushuovinen9466]

Noticed the same thing with Meguiars All Purpose Cleaner on white leather seats. It makes leather much more white even when dilutet 1 to 10. Allso if it spills to leather and sits there for a while it leave those white spots bit more like bleach. Dont know how safe it is to leather after all. Thanks for very informative video!

[@ForensicDetailing]

yes, and overspray is prone to leaving more residue. Its very foamy product, but it also contains things like potassium hydroxide and sodium silicates (IIRC) which are powerfull cleaners due to a mild (desirable) corrosive effect. But these can leave white residue if not properly rinsed. I used to love Megs APC still like it for fabrics funny enough. But the UK and Germany in my opinion have better engineered surfactant blends with a strong concentration of safer surfactant choices that are typically more expensive. American laws on chemicals are more relaxed than the UK and Germany (EU). Thats why I sometimes say American Soaps are not great compared to European or UK. Its usually down to the additional of powerfull cheap caustic additives (ok for pro use not so great for continual use on cars by guys at home)

[@markushuovinen9466]

​@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for information, that explains alot. I will allso continue to use Megs occasionally for hard stains in fabrics because of it's great cleaning potential, but goint to replace it for more delicated surfaces.

[@hendeeze]

My only critique is your criteria for dilution. It seems like you took the manufacturer's word for it. But no way of knowing if product A at 10:1 did better than product B at 1:5. And it seems like it was heavily weighted in your scoring criteria. Good work nonetheless, good to have a general idea of which products are best at what.

[@DavidC1]

THERE CAN ONLY BE 1!!!!!