The Decline of COD Zombies Started HERE!

[@bb-yv7jr]

I genuinely think that the rise of EPIC games with Fortnite changed other games forever and that is why COD shifted so much focus to battle royale seeing that they can generate so much more revenue with free modes containing tons of micro transactions instead of pleasing a smaller group of fans who followed a story line for a decade

[@rutherhood5961]

Battle royals and battle passes have ruined games

[@izzysanchez0118]

I feel like zombies, today, lack emersion. One of the biggest things to older zombies games is the fear factor, the feeling of having to survive, starting from a weak pistol, and working your way up with little to no information. Everything after bo3 started to branch out from that emersion. Bo4 started small with attachments on your guns and a more infromational hud. Then, cold war straight up just allowed you to spawn with an op gun of your choice, gave you armor, choices of your equipment, etc. Overall, that destroyed the emersion of zombies and made it lose its fear factor.

[@artienayak8822]

The newer zombies experiences look so cheap and aesthetically off, even the HUD looks cluttered and less premium than a game like BO3

[@ProdLucio]

Nowadays zombies is just multiplayer but with zombies

[@darionakins9064]

Treyarch employees and data mining to figure out easter eggs is wack.

[@3DCommando]

The zombies community lives on through Black Ops 3 custom maps on PC. The zombies scene didn't die we just moved to PC, most people would understand why.

[@xDerHunterHeli]

Bo3 is kinda Dead other than chronicles and Custom Zombies... Kino der Toten is 27% full on public and others not even close...

[@satorrotas93]

@@xDerHunterHeliI can still find bo3 lobbies for almost every map pretty consistently on a semi daily basis on consol

[@RealTeX1]

Yeah for real. I got a random lobby for Der and even did the EE​@@satorrotas93

[@treblemix_]

@@satorrotas93lucky you I wish shang had more than 1% every time I want to play my favorite map lol

[@satorrotas93]

@@treblemix_ most of the BO1 maps are a little dead admittedly but I usually see at least one match going for each of them

[@budsmokinpandaz]

Im glad i played bo3 and bo4 way after all this hype... it spared me from all of this letdown, and i simply enjoyed going through the storyline during the pandemic. Makes me a sad Panda

[@CleazyMane-ef2cg]

Love the South Park reference.

[@20piecemcnuggets27]

Tbh I didn't buy bo4 cause there's no story mode

[@youngbuck49]

Im glad i played bo3 and bo4 during all this hype. It's was the best time for zombie player. Activision kill the game mode when Blundel get fired

[@budsmokinpandaz]

@youngbuck49 wish i could've, but i was busy tryna ruin my life during those years lmfao. Shouldve stayed home and played zombies 🤣

[@thealandude9146]

Yeah, my pc couldn't handle cod and i don't have any console so playing these games now I had fun in both of them(got bo4 in a sale)

[@mirphd7762]

Things started going wrong when the point system was changed for cold war. Killing masses of zombies and seeing little points popping up really takes away from the gameplay visually imo

[@tarantolopictures481]

Fr. Zombies is such a simple mode that was already perfect on release especially in BO1. All these new changes they keep doing just hurt the mode and take away it’s simplicity

[@notkonni]

and the healthbars idk how such a small thing can completely change the feel of a game

[@monkaSisLife]

and it all came with the new engine. thats why IMO every new engine zombies is absolute garbage

[@LolidkoofHssyt]

I can't help but cry looking at the new cod zombies

[@ididntaskverified3663]

Nah, all those achievements and points taking up your screen is just screen vomit

[@KoltenTVC]

zombies started declining when you when from Russian to rushin

[@Suppression.]

Contiuning the aether story in bo4 was a dumb decision imo, should have just ended it at revelations.

[@alter6243]

100% agree. The story being a loop would have been a lot better than the dumpster fire we got. Especially since Tag was another fake out as the Dark Aether storyline is basically just the merging of all the Aether story into one universe.

[@KekusMagnus]

Yes, the Aether story was stupid enough as is, they had to just let it go

[@WhatisReal11]

Not have a general campaign in black ops 4 was the dumbest decision. cut off huge potential for new fan base on bo4

[@WilliamSellers-kn9yx]

Continuing the story after bo4 where they already had a new storyline set up with chaos is so dumb to me. They should have ended the aether by killing off every crew up til then and had that be it.

[@WolfofES]

Imo it was not that bad but they should have give us the big war as a Map where at the end we find out that the crew is the cause of the loop.

[@tigerman412]

I remember wondering why VanossGaming wasnt making as many bo4 zombies, then i realized why as i played it myself

[@speedietruck4861]

Nowadays they’re trying to turn zombies into a BR, can’t see that flopping 🙄

[@rosscleary9110]

The decline of Cod Zombies started when the "Easter Eggs" turned into mandatory gameplay mechanics.

[@hungryhyena783]

YES this right here. 100 fucking percent. That started in BO3 and partially BO2.

[@AnnBoye]

If you talking about bo3 the best zombies game by a lot you wrong all zombies suck compared to bo3

[@ey1615]

@@AnnBoye Least braindead BO3 shill BO3 shills never had an original thought in their life

[@ey1615]

Exactly it started with Shadows of Evil. Arguably even Mob of the Dead. But people aren’t ready for that discussion. Hating BO4 maps for demanding the players to learn easter egg steps to actually enjoy the maps is so hypothetical when it already started all the way back in BO2 if not BO3.

[@AnnBoye]

@@ey1615 but shadows the best zombies map

[@SSJ_EWGF]

It feels like ever since Bo4 Zombies has been going backwards in terms of innovation, storytelling and just overall enjoyment at least for me that is. I missed the days when every map had a unique aesthetic built in different mythologies and ancient historical landmarks. I yearn for the times when every map came with its own fully rendered cutscenes, full of our favorite characters doing the wacky shit in order to fulfill there goals. I so badly want to return to the times when the zombie storyline felt like a cohesive narrative that was both comprehensible, but also enjoyable to see through. It was an error or a really felt like Treyarch knew where they were going the overarching plot and we're just making shit up as they go. Sadly all things must come to the end and looks like the old Zombies that we all know and love has been lost to time. My only regret is how we only really realize that it was gone for good well after it already left...

[@bennyok4725]

Thanks for saying something insightful and useful instead of most people who just say first

[@ItsNifer]

My thoughts exactly. I tried out CW zombies and was a little dissapointed in Die Machine.. But I thought that this is just they're way of getting more casuals into the mode, which Iwas fine with. I was hoping the later DLC maps would get more in-depth like classic Treyarch maps... and I was dead wrong. I played FIrebase Z and instantly quit after playing once. I hated everything about it and never touched CW afterwards. I do know a lot of people praise Mauer... which I'm tempted to re-install and try out simply because of all the hype.

[@thecommentor3845]

I will say there are some rumors that Revelations was meant to be the end of Aether in a way, but nobody liked the ending so they had to keep going. It's not super out there obv, but it is fair to say there was points where Treyarch was just making stuff up, especially when Blundell was taking over. Once the Apothoicans came in, they had to do a lot of stuff that would make it seem like they were always there. BO3 def had an overall story it achieved, and BO4 did have one but its failure caused major changes to it, despite still able to give a heartfelt ending. But still, they very much so didn't have *everything* planned out.

[@Suppression.]

Story should have just ended at revelations ngl

[@Bombaclat710]

​@@thecommentor3845Revelations being the end wasn't a rumour. Before the game even released, we were told that it would be the absolute end for our Aether story. But you're right, they got a lot of flack for trying to end the story they came up with so they decided to split their next game between the new story they wanted to tell, and a handful of continuations to end the story. Again. The only reason BO4 Aether zombies exists is because of all the BO3 suck-offs who think it's the best game to ever exist. That's why the zombie engine is designed for Chaos story. That's why the perks and HUD is the way it is, they were designed with Chaos in mind. That's why the only wonder weapon you can use in MP is a melee weapon that was meant for one of the last 2 Chaos maps we never got. But because so many whiners didn't want a video game to end, the developers gave in and gave the community what they wanted. And yet they still whine, because it's not BO3. Honestly, as somebody who's played since BO1, I think BO3 lead to the ruin of the zombies community. Every map has the exact same story, aside from the last map and a little of the first, so that makes the story boring af. Even the easter eggs are easy af, so everyone wanted harder eggs, then 3arc delivered and it was "too hard". Every game, you'll buy the same perks, train the same zombies. AATs make Wonder Weapons completely obsolete so there's no point grinding to get an alien gun only for a single electric bullet to kill an entire horde. People can say what they want, 3arc delivers whatever the community whines and complains about, but it's never good enough. (Not calling anyone out, except BO3 suck offs, they ruined zombies for everyone else)

[@doubleupload5620]

The problem is they tried to give zombies an ending in bo4 the ending of bo3 is good because zombies is a cycle it makes sense that’s why the rounds go forever

[@Pillitoes]

it should be mentioned as well that is was found out recently that certain zombies cypher's werent even in zombies maps but multiplayer maps

[@BurningMoreXP]

I stopped playing zombies as soon as I saw how bad it is in BO4.. me and my friends just go back and play BO3 zombies once in awhile.

[@JB2FROSTY]

Bro same!! I loaded up black ops 4 zombies on launch and was like, "WTF IS THIS!?!" I thought black ops 1 and 3 was perfect. I haven't played any of the new zombies since.

[@WhatisReal11]

ancient evil is low key a great map. only good map in bo4

[@WilliamSellers-kn9yx]

If you’re into ees bo4 isn’t all that bad. The detail in the maps and main quests is commendable not sure why they had to ruin it with the perk system.

[@ey1615]

@@WhatisReal11 Dead of the Night was unironically great too. Right up there with Shadows of Evil imo.

[@ey1615]

@@WilliamSellers-kn9yx The perk system isn’t even that bad if you actually attempt to adapt to it. I hated it too at first but then I gave BO4 another chance during the pandemic and bought the season pass. I had lots of fun with it. Easily better than anything that came after it and in my opinion not that much inferior to BO3 if at all. Oldheads were simply to stubborn to learn something new. The mode rocks if you give it a proper chance. People just got too used to how easy and braindead BO3 was.

[@rutherhood5961]

Black ops 2 was the last good zombies, now it’s just stupid, no atmosphere, boring characters, terrible hud, loadouts?!?! SCORESTREAKS?!?!?!? It was perfect in bo1 and bo2 and then now it’s just god awful

[@ScavbandPA]

Real. Fucking. Shit.

[@AlexxKister]

weirdly enough, despite the missed potential that bo4 had, its still my favorite zombies. dead of the night has had me in a chokehold ever since quarantine

[@yess5523]

Stick to those Mandela catalogue videos

[@thecommentor3845]

talk about a surprise! dead of the night has cool stuff in it so i can't blame for ya for that. everyone has a different favorite map

[@kingis_dingis8103]

Dead if the night gets wayyyy too much hate. It’s complicated yes but it’s fun and has a really unique wonder weapon.

[@TripleC5000]

Dead of the Night is so damn good, shame it's not accessible enough for most people to enjoy it.

[@slothy710]

Blood of the dead and Dead of the night are absolutely S tier maps with S tier easter eggs and i don’t care what anyone says

[@matthewpowell6280]

Damn I’m getting old lol , I still remember the original cod map 😂😂😂

[@djdjdijon]

I find it funny how WaW,BLOPS and Black Ops 3 are the only games without some sort of massive failure but people still act like BO2 is the best despite having the worst launch map ever

[@Ace-wi9ve]

For me, personally, Bo2 zombies was the best. It was experimental. every map was unique. No two maps felt the same. As for bo3 it felt like polish bo2 mostly designed off mob of the dead and origins.

[@conspicuouspiggy8792]

You’re missing that people haaaaated Shangri La on launch, but I agree otherwise. Tranzit and Die Rise are still two of the most hated maps in classic zombies

[@dreamsdicc1817]

​@conspicuouspiggy8792 ya five and Shangri-la were hate due to them being extremely difficult at the time. But they aged really well. Die rise and transit on the other hand are just annoying and not enjoyable at all. Bo3 was basically perfect and didn't really fail at anything and has the most zombies content out of them all. After bo3 it just slowly got worse

[@conspicuouspiggy8792]

@@dreamsdicc1817 I can understand why Bo3 turned so many people away since its approach to mapmaking was pretty narrow in its philosophy, but I think we see eye to eye. For me, as someone who loved mob and origins, the questline approach to mapmaking was practically flawless.

[@rundownnnn]

@@dreamsdicc1817tranzit and die rise are easy and fun but it’s pretty obvious you can’t handle it and that’s why u play bo3 lmao go slide around the whole map and buy sum gobble gum to get you everything you need to laughable zombies

[@beercooler]

I pre ordered Black ops 4, but didn’t make the mistake with Cold War. I did end up buying Cold War and it was good, but not great. Cold War doesn’t have the replay ability of Black Ops 3.

[@alter6243]

Giving us two maps for the chaos story was one of the biggest mistakes they made. Voyage of Despair had a lack of stakes because we already knew what came afterwards. IX made Voyage feel unimportant because characters didn’t build up from the previous experience as the day 1 experience had to be accounted for. It also didn’t help that instead of moving forward, the first DLC gave us another prequel map. The story was actually extremely interesting and had a ton of potential but way laid out in a way that made it hard to get invested. It would be like if Origins and The Giant came out at the exact same time. That would have made the Primis group feel less engaging. Part of what made BO3 so great was seeing our characters evolve with every map.

[@mthequietbass547]

I don’t think it’s a bad game per say; but following BO3 was gonna be tough no matter what

[@alexmoberly3644]

6:13 “let me make it quear” I can’t be the only one who heard that

[@For_The_Horde935]

😂😂😂😂

[@johnpeterson3384]

I played zombies since its birth i stopped after black ops 3

[@ObeytheNova2]

I cannot relate to the crashing ever, I played on the OG Xbox one, literally played at midnight made it to like 30

[@iProDG2]

There was actually one wave of callings during launch-ish with the Halloween face paints

[@ptrcrispy]

Was this a scheduled upload 5 years later?

[@rexzombiesbrasil]

For me the decline started on Alpha Omega, they haven't dropped a single high quality round based map since

[@yunggatsby]

Originally the classified cutscene was on round 255, not 150

[@tranzitispog5954]

I honestly thought bo4 was super underrated and ive always had a special place for it in my heart. Ive 100% cleared zombies on my main xbox acct and am working towards doing it again on my alt acct. Ik people really dislike bo4 for all of its flaws but i personally love it. It will always hold the flag at the top of the hill for me. Yes that does mean above bo2 and 3 bc personally, i love those games too but not as much as bo4.

[@Mookie12911]

The complete nosedive zombies took after being absolutely incredible in bo3 is insane

[@SoNoizzE]

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. On day one you had 150 HP in BO4 Zombies?! My respect for bo4 zombies has lowered, I can finally see why people were so devestated by the dissapearance of jugg now.

[@KnifeToMeetYou_]

Even with all the issues BO4 had, I still really loved the game overall. While I loved Chaos and Aether, I kind of wished they focused on one storyline instead of both at the same time. It just led to people not caring too much about Chaos since almost everyone was already heavily invested in Aether. Its a shame because this led to Aether's rather lackluster+rushed ending and Chaos getting the short end of a stick by ending on a Cliffhanger. I still love BO4 and proudly say that Dead of the Night is my all time fave map, collect-a-thon and annoying Nosferatus be damned.

[@Terminator-ht3sx]

bo4 is dogshit got 2 good maps but the mechanics of the game make it automatically terrible

[@tarantolopictures481]

It surprises me how much people care about the story in zombies. I never cared for it much. I want zombies to be simple, mindless fun. Each map can have its own story for all I care. The problem with zombies is they’re trying to make too many changes to a system that was already perfect in Black Ops 1 and 2. Changing the perk system in BO4 was a mistake. Adding hit markers in CW was also a mistake. Just bring zombies back to its roots and give us simpler maps like Der Riese and give more maps on release

[@rayquaza1245]

The zombies story was so cool during WaW/BO1 when it was more of a background thing. A mystery to uncover for people who were interested, but not shoved in the players face. The fact that it was so missable is part of what made it so interesting. Also, the story was more of a grounded science fiction thing, not some fantastical parallel universe BS. The more story zombies got, the worse it became.

[@WilliamSellers-kn9yx]

@@rayquaza1245For me that was the whole draw having the ee be hidden. And the steps were all these insane riddles that needed to be solved. It felt like uncovering a mystery you weren’t meant to find

[@mooncrow2447]

Sacrificed zombies, bastardizing (innovating) it to the point of being a MID experience. All they had to do was continue what they had previously and just give us that "Appothican War" ... At least multiple endings even a happy end for the characters besides Sam/Ed (technically).

[@SPECTRAL_ACE]

People are saying that BO4 was the beginning of the decline but don't people realize that BO3 was also a issue for the high hopes it put and the pressure the development team was on, also I don't mind how the story ended because it would of been worse if they continued especially because now Takeo's VA can't do it anymore

[@TheLegend-jp1vg]

Custom mutations arent used because they disable anything fun you can do on the map! Put the game into easy mode and just like that you cant do any easter eggs put it into hard mode and boom just like that you have no easter eggs nothing just a little bit of xp and a massive fuck you to your "fun" you were trying to have

[@thechugg4372]

Worst part is they remove the music easter eggs, fuck that if I want a casual game I want my music easter egg!

[@TheLegend-jp1vg]

@thechugg4372 honestly the dumbest decision ever made give the player freedom and take away the game what sense does that even make

[@tcox8729]

To me it began around BO2 origins. Dont get me wrong, it is one of my favorite maps but it caused alot of issues later on. Everything was a chore, buildables, staffs, thunder punch, even power was a chore! There wasnt a casual mode for origins either which i didnt like. Story was good for me and i liked the staffs and new features but man it was a chore sometimes. BO3 continued the trend and left out everyone who wanted to have a casual play through.

[@AnnBoye]

Bo3 the best zombies the rest pale in comparison and kinda suck when you compare it to bo3

[@TheOnlyBiodude]

For me, zombies went bad the moment we stopped calling it NAZI ZOMBIES. Like what the heck? when did this just become regular zombies. Also the tone of the maps really did shift around. I feel llike the best maps in the franchise are scary and full of mystery. It should make you feel something new each time. It's like what everyone always says.. Zombies died the moment the mystery became an actual mission within the maps. It should always be a hidden bonus and the environment details should do most of the talking. Yes, give us some dialogue, recordings and paper messages, but don't give us full on cutscenes. Less is more as they have always said. Also gosh man.. they really need to pick a lane when it comes to their sci-fi BS. Aliens, love craft monsters, ghosts and witches... its all a bit much. I wish it was grounded as much as possible. I understand that 115 is an alien substance, but it doesn't mean we have to go weird from it.

[@Ermac43]

You nailed it on the head honestly. Revelations was really the start of the decline, atleast for what I enjoyed out of zombies. The entire year of BO4 was just misstep after misstep and the communities reactions were just fire on that flame. After playing zombies since WaW, BO4 is by far my least favorite. Luckily Cold War brought me back in after that toxic year of BO4. I am glad that some people enjoyed BO4 though, even though I don’t like it, I still respect what others like.

[@Gojeto346]

Mob of the Dead was the start of the beginning, it led to Blundell getting credit and praise and he ruined zombies.

[@youngbuck49]

@@Gojeto346 so after blundell we only got 2 remaster, no cutscene and a game full of generic map (cold war) with operator. It's more Activision who killed it.

[@Terminator-ht3sx]

stfu ermac i’ve seen you on other zombie youtube channels saying bo4 zombies is underrated and is actually good/ what drugs are you on😂😂🤡 saying the complete opposite now you just agree with whatever the video you watch say fucking retard

[@craigf257]

Only thing that ruined black ops 4 was the hate train Clown faced Waffles manged to start because his PS4 crashed. There were issues at launch for PS4 players but they got addressed BO$ is a great game and it desevered better fromthe community.

[@Jasonhoods]

My man spitting facts

[@ElectrikStatik900]

Pretty dumb to assume all of the hate for a video game started from one single person. I'm pretty sure people started hating BO4 when they first heard that there would be no campaign in the game, and they were hating it even more when they started a new storyline without even mentioning the Aether storyline at all. Then, it was all downhill from there. And don't you guys remember that the game at launch was a complete *disaster?*

[@mr.watkins2957]

Ima say this before I watch the video, it started falling during BO2.

[@cosmicrambler3619]

It wasn't that BO4 was a "bad" game, it was great. It was just that the lack of sales and "failure" of the game hurt Zombies future funding and focus.

[@Shy_Abi]

Ah, yes. A COD game that lacks a campaign mode, has a terrible zombies mode and a lame multiplayer mode isn't "bad".

[@jordanw4344]

​@@Shy_Abithe zombies was one of the best ever

[@the_troll309]

​@@Shy_Abiagree , all aether zombies maps was remakes , last aether original zombies map was revelations, also they downgraded the graphics and details for making blackout running better,

[@the_troll309]

​@@jordanw4344Blud literally forgot about bo1/2/3 era 💀

[@jordanw4344]

@@the_troll309 i said one of the best. Bo3 is still better but bo4 is second

[@redtube8667]

No shot it'll happen, but here's an idea to win the hardcore fans back: Reintroduce paid quarterly DLC to release your new stories and maps with a large incentive to deliver. Keep the battle pass free map system, but every other month pick three popular custom maps from World at War and Black Ops 3, put them in a poll, and officially release the poll winner.

[@BrandonCornish-x7f]

Black ops four was still one of my favorite. It’s 2024 and I have a top-notch PC and I can still not connect to a server. It’s freaking ridiculous.

[@oyasumi111]

With the Dark Aether storyline, we may see a return of the chaos story in BO6 or BO7 since they had the Sentinel Artifact, and Scarlett and Bruno technically survived Ancient Evil, there is still a small possibility of them returning. Chances are if they do bring them back, Shaw and Bruno won't come back since they are technically dead (plus with Medusa roaming around they probably wouldn't have made it out anyways) but this is just a Chaos Story fan coping lol.

[@ProtoBlueGaming]

Black Ops 3 is where zombies peaked in action, and the story was finally tied up in a nice bow. Then Black Ops 4 came along and removed the entire "survival" aspect in favor of doing a long, overly complicated easter egg.

[@bonnie75330]

to me its so crazy that there will never be as much as hype since bo4 due to very high expectations after bo3 zombies but if im being real activision ruined zombies completely plus it didnt help that the first dlc of bo4 the most important dlc was a failure which doomed zombies forever nowadays zombies probably wont be the same anymore since bo3

[@falco5148]

Black ops 2 was the last true zombie game. Everything that came after it was zoomer shit.

[@hungryhyena783]

Absolutely. Buried was… definitely a risky move in terms of a zombie atmosphere but even maps like Tranzit just reek of the classic zombies feel.

[@WhatisReal11]

If black ops 4 had a campaign, I think it would have been much more successful. Casual players come from randoms playing campaign, and testing out things like zombies. It's not even zombies fault that zombies did badly in bo4. It's tragic what happened. I can only imagine what we would have gotten if black ops 4 was more stable.

[@dariusdafigga]

Hardcore BO3 fan and I’ll never forget the feeling of tremendous letdown after seeing all the videos coming out about BO4. I decided to spare myself the headache of ever playing it and I don’t regret it till this day. I did get into BOCW a couple years later and as mentioned in the video, it did a pretty good job picking up the pieces from the mess that was left behind. I’m not completely in on the dark aether story yet but I just hope BO6 combines the best of BO3 & BOCW

[@49HEALTH]

It’s sad how Cold War zombies was received better even though it had a far worst budget. Kevin drew did damn good replacing Jason.

[@ThunderStruck115]

I honestly believe that if the game wasn't completely broken at launch, it would not have anywhere near as negative of a reputation as it does now

[@ratmilk9260]

as an OG zombies player (WaW, BlOps, BlOps2) the downfall started for me after Black Ops 2.

[@JMann717]

real black ops 3 zombies had insane maps but the gameplay itself had too much going on

[@toasterman5412]

Bo3 fans won't admit it but it absolutely was the start of the decline

[@JMann717]

@@toasterman5412 Yeah definitely but they won’t admit that. Gobbles gums made the game too easy if you used em. Way too many “enemy” variants. Stupid flying bugs, meatballs, margwas on top of zombies being the main enemy. I can go on & on

[@toasterman5412]

@@JMann717 Gobblegums as a concept was just dumb and a easy way to introduce microtransactions into zombies And the fans just slobbered that shit up lol

[@ese1588]

The zombies community was at its peak in bo3 though

[@hungryhyena783]

I shouldn’t have to watch a fucking GUIDE TO BE ABLE TO PLAY A DAMN ZOMBIES MAP AND GET ANYWHERE WITH IT.

[@AnnBoye]

You don't have to you just a noob no zombies map is that complicated

[@La-ilaha-illa-Lenin]

@@AnnBoyekid yk people had to datamine to figure out pap on soe

[@AnnBoye]

@@La-ilaha-illa-Lenin it's not complicated it's a masterpiece

[@steeldragon9041]

Bo3/zombie chronicles was the GOLDEN AGE of zombies

[@m.strawser]

I’m really holding out hope they come out with something for the hard core zombie fans that is close to the regular bo3 style zombies I will even take bo4 .

[@Pitbullslimes]

This video did not age well because the new zombies looks like trash

[@mr.meatball6549]

I think its always good to go into something and try your hardest to view something positively. Its kinda difficult but It has allowed me to enjoy MWZ and a lot of other "subpar" zombies content. stay positive yall

[@Wishmaster145]

some loved der riese wave gameplay others looking up datamined tubers easter eggs guides, others even killstreaks on newer games, opinions opinions opinions. some found success from one change others from another, there is never a perfect formula that doesnt become stale or boring at one point, its just human nature...

[@Papahelghast]

I was turned off from any new zombies map, or game in general, after Ancient Evil came out. It felt too visually cluttered and I was sick of looking at tutorials.

[@joeytulips2180]

I'm replaying bo4 and it's not horrible... I'm enjoying it, but personally I believe bo3 this the apex of the series of zombies

[@tankbeast8480]

To say they didn’t work on vanguard is the most bold face lie I’ve seen trayarch made vanguard

[@RushinGG]

Uhh....they've admitted that it was mostly in a storyline capacity...

[@themanofmovies8104]

​@@RushinGGstill worked on it fuckboi

[@tankbeast8480]

@@RushinGG no no they didn't. They made the entire mode do a little more research

[@E.K.1969]

I hated Bop4 , greed fueled its conception and downfall ! They spit in the face of the OG zombie crowd !

[@tkm3294]

I would also say BO4. But it was because Sledgehammer messed up whatever they were making for the year that Cold War came out and Treyarch basically had to be pulled away from that game to work on Cold War as an emergency game. Activision Shanghai was who finished up BO4

[@NoThumbsCrew]

Bo4 is an amazing game, ive stood by it from the start and stil do. The game for zombies has the most content. Botd>motd

[@MyDadJustLeftMeXD]

Ikr, Chaos is GOATED

[@ajaxmaxbitch]

I still prefer mob but fair enough

[@Just-A-Bit]

For me the decline was origins. The story went from shady government stuff with some mysticism to a sort of fantasy with prophecy and all

[@lilwikka]

they literally gave a juggernog fridge for black ops 3 preorder cause it was iconic... ya lets get rid of it next game

[@Lanfeng_huang]

I'll say what I always said, all BO4 needed for the Aether crew to end them, was a great war map.

[@shoulderdestroyer6124]

Zombies only_v post I remember bo4 zombie server was so unstable of crashing. ended up dropping the entire game one week into the first DLC. due to crashes. this problem was never fixed, even in mw3 zombies. Since black ops cold war. the series for zombies just feel like metal gear survive. Just an icon talking to you. Operators don't do anything remotely to the story line. I don't see bo6 being any different. they could had given us 4 new characters. Sam, Edward. Option characters like Peter McCain and someone random. Till this day, I do hope Treyarch actually does something right for once.

[@averylr32]

bro its crazy how this has aged lol

[@thomashancox9463]

I loved bo4, classified, voyage of dispair, tag Der toten, these were my all time favs from this game

[@djdjdijon]

I love seeing the “Hardcore (BO2DLC+BO3) leave because they helped drive out all the WaW/Blops fans with their dumb theories and Boring characters redesigns, thanks god Treyarch toned it all down in CW and made OG fans be interested again

[@Terminator-ht3sx]

og fans hate cold war dumass. the complete opposite of og zombies

[@levicross1109]

Bo6 was a let down, yeah rounds came back but load-outs are still a thing and most things that come from Cold War are left in and wonder weapons are no longer wonder weapons as you can pretty much pick them up instead of hunting for the parts. Many were hoping for a dead stock bo1,2&3 zombies but were let down

[@Chowder908]

For me BO2 was the beginning of the the end. The story went to far into *funny evil magic people* instead of the creepy atmosphere of it being Nazi experiments going wrong.

[@carkchan]

The last ones I liked was Transit and Buried. Something happened to zombies after that l, that just felt over the top. Need to go back to basics," keep it simple, stupid."

[@bluesides8323]

What about cold war?

[@0f128]

I just got this video on my recommended, i agree bo4 was the beginning of the end. After that i knew not to buy anything after and stopped playing cod altogether

[@HyperFoxx]

Hot take: Zetsubou is better than Gorod

[@otaldogrifyn]

The truth is: after bo3, it's all zombies official fan fiction.

[@coreygunz645]

I hate how ppl bash bo4 but don't bash cold war zombies. When the maps in bo4 were way better than cold war maps. But u guys are never happy

[@ZombieSlayerrrrr]

The newer Maps not being as detailed were due to the backlash from casual players. Maps were to complicated (Just compare SoE and Kino), everything to hidden etc. Zombies will never return to the Bo2/3/4 style and there is no fixing it. Zombies doesn't bring enough cash in to commit to it compared to Warzone (why else would they try and bring warzone to zombies), hardcore fans need to suck up that they are 10% maybe even 20% of the zombie players unlike in bo3 where it was the other way around. The downfall for the hardcore players was Cold War. Nothing to do, the game is way too easy etc. The downfall for the casuals was Bo3. Treyarch committing to Mob / Origins style maps was what started the Maps getting more and more complicated. And now since treyarch seems to be every studios lap dog to just develop zombies, hope might aswell be out of the window. TLDR; If you want Bo3 Maps , just buy Bo3 on PC and play custom maps or play the old games. Speak with your money not with a twitter thread that will change nothing.

[@pearfessional]

I’m 10 months late and this is off topic but what was that LotR custom map?

[@bottyuup6885]

It needs jug homie... It needs jug

[@ese1588]

Definitely declined when bo4 zombies dropped. Dear god how they massacred zombies maps were pretty cool though can’t lie

[@zachharrelson1150]

bo4 was one of the worst zombies tbh, y'all gotta stop lying to yourselves but cold war was fun but repetitive and im hoping gulf war is done correctly

[@ElectrikStatik900]

Facts

[@BROKENLIZARD983]

How have details and graphics declined since black ops 2 ?

[@RealScottexx]

Only ogs remember when the thumbnail was richtofen

[@S_t_r_e_s_s]

Ok but what are the custom maps that are shown here. My 600GB of maps is running short.

[@G0tthacann0n]

if you take the last letter of each bo 3 map write them down flip backwards it spells siael which is gift of god

[@PSYMAN69]

Now we get BS like zombie critical kill on our screen & cod mobile bosses 😳

[@Rana__]

Personally loved how "basic" Cold War was. Hour long pointless setups and garbage easter eggs that take like 50 rounds to do and several hours are not that fun. I just want to play Zombies. Once things got more complicated than maps like Shadows of Evil is when things went downhill (cough Black Ops 4)

[@Massivemachine440]

The fact that you could do an Easter egg in 30 minutes was amazing. The outbreak ones took a little longer but still. I just picked it up a few weeks ago along with my buddy, and we've been having a blast

[@Carno_Yujia]

🤡

[@yuhboiijay3003]

After Jimmy left the community, zombies went downhill. Maps weren't as scary, the mystery not the same. If Jimmy stayed zombies would be golden. I feel like Blundell ruined the story with Aliens, Gods, Giant robots, Dragons.. Don't get me wrong I loved Soe, Mob, Origins but Jimmy had that magical touch and things were good. Challenge, mystery, Horror, like I don't understand why we cant go back to those days and expand on it. How stupid can Treyach and Activision be? Devs nowadays has just lost their touch and nobody knows how to use their brains. MW3 is a obvious fail so just return to the damn basics already like its not hard to figure that out. "If it ain't broke, then don't fix it"... well what do you know? after Jimmy left then tried to fix it. Dumb i'm sorry now look where COD is at.

[@SaintBacon_]

I actually love the chaos maps in bo4. I really wish the four chaos maps were on a game like bo3.

[@lacasadelvideojuego3880]

BO4 isn’t that bad but isn’t good either. Improves on many things we ask for but cuts a ton that already work or were ok on BO3. By that point you only needed to improve on BO3 and not cut anything

[@DerrekRogers]

Controversial but I never enjoyed black ops 3 zombies. Maybe I played too much but for me black ops one was truly peak for a fun, casual experience. 2 was hit and miss, but the hits were fantastic

[@efrainrodriguez8973]

I mostly blame the zombies community for bo4. The game is actually really good. The main problem is that the community really overreacted about the changes they made in bo4. Bo4 would have been 100% better if it launch wasnt buggy, the community wasnt toxic, and if sledgehammer and raven stfu and made their game

[@regularsizeddude859]

14:42 what the fuck is this perk amount is this a custom map😭

[@slbmd-dupont1610]

“Bo3 hero’s to bo4 zeros” that’s a crazy line 💀💀

[@fjorland_norsk3996]

Even though the perk system and other things was flawed in bo4 its the last game of zombies that actually had creative and nice map design.

[@israeljenkins8107]

Honestly Cold War did have some good map designs, like Mauer, and Firebase

[@fjorland_norsk3996]

@@israeljenkins8107 all cold war maps looked cold, grey and bland. They only reused assets from MP and campaign. Nothing comes close to the creativity we see in previous treyarch titles

[@WhatisReal11]

@@israeljenkins8107 the warzone and fortnightification of Cold War is the worst aspects of the game. Points everywhere, no points system. Its a joke.. no soul