Forge Vlog #3 - Insulation & Cement

[@saxyberry]

Your little boy is super cute. Time to go play with cement.

[@Forheavenssake1ify]

Looking good! I used a 12" pipe 2 feet long, and simply cast 2" of cement inside, using an 8" pipe. I also put the burner in at an angle, using cast pipe as a consumable (ie it tended to burn away, very slowly). I used propane and forced air from a squirrel cage blower with a gate valve. I put firebrick at front and back as needed for the work and yes it did tend to break with expansion contraction, but I just kept re-using it as it shrunk. I forged and forge welded regularly for many years with it. The borax was hard on the bottom, I could have re-cast it after 10 years of use (but I didn't). Nowadays some coat the cement with a glaze and swear by it.

[@elesjuan]

Woo-hoo!! Only advice I can really relate at this point.. Make sure you adhere to the cure time for the cement. Saw a guy use some similar stuff and fired it up a day after and it started crumbling pretty badly. Now you're getting me excited to build one of these!!

[@de1mystery]

Really great looking so far Jeremy. Thanks for the video. That beef looked so great my mouth watered.

[@lonniehand1386]

I can't believe you showed that food it looked awesome I love BBQ good job on vid

[@gianpreisner]

Maaaan I'm so excited for you to finish this forge!

[@EnvyVoice]

That kid was adorable. 💕

[@stoneblue1795]

What time is DINNER.... what can we bring???Good work on the forge!

[@pmcmva]

All I did on Cinco was..... party. Like the forge build. Has given me ideas for my next upgrades.

[@toddparnaby5799]

Looks like a proper job young man, it won't be long till your beating steel

[@msblades5382]

Jeremy, You would have been better off leaving the end cut off put a hinge on it because kaowool does not last for ever and you will need to reline it eventually. Just saying nice build though the only other thing I may have done since you are only using one burner I would have centered it. Unless this was planed to latter put another burner to be able to reach welding temps easier. Either way nice build. Sincerely ,Martin at M/S Blacksmithing and Blades

[@sethjones5078]

This video series is very interesting keep it up

[@d.h.vargas2450]

Hola Jeremy, I know I'm a little late in your Forge Vlog series, with it being December now, but it looks like you solved your calf problem @ the 8:27 mark . Anyway great vlog series, keep"em coming

[@martineng5013]

Hey Jeremy, I used the same fire bricks and refractory cement as you did in your build and I have found that they don't hold up super well in my forge. The bricks I used as doors tend to crack and fall apart and the cement cracks and peels off pretty quickly. Just thought I'd let you know.

[@AlaskaFire911]

Jeremy I used a refractory mix for my pizza oven I built. you can use vermiculite and portland cement Mixture you can evenly fill voids and it will give you great insulation property I run my Pizza oven at 900 deg and the outside of the brick remains cool.

[@stoneblue1795]

For forging and tempering he will hit or exceed 2000 degrees F.

[@caseytaylor9152]

Nice build, what is the white insulation called? And what cement are you using? Thank you!

[@Alarmclock555]

Kaowool. He's using any storebrand refractory cement, iirc anything that can go up to 3000 or so is acceptable. I use Mizzou castable plus in my own forge.

[@Christopher-ud8iz]

heey Jeremy I seen a video a wile back were he cut the front clean off then put it back on a set of Hinges and a lock for next time he had to insulation in

[@jagotts2359]

i had some of the premixed stuff melt in my forge ... hope yours is better stuff

[@tonialzola]

loved the little dude singing "cincooo de mayoo" :D

[@HarmonHeat]

Nice build

[@masonrichards9020]

could you give me a link where you got the insulation and the cement. It would be very appreciated! Thank You!

[@wesley7910]

Hey! I was wondering what the total cost of the burner and this forge all together? Thanks

[@tomsdreamshopworx]

Good stuff!

[@ShelleyRaskin]

Don't know if it's relevant but I saw someone make one of these out of a coffee tin and plaster of Paris...

[@stephenranti173]

I have been doing a lot of research on these and was wondering why you used the refractory cement? Most of the ones I've seen online use a rigidizer and then a couple coats of ITC-100? Just wondering.

[@nathanielheidemann3112]

Stephen Ranti itc 100 is extremely expensive at 72 dollars a pint.

[@hardrock1826]

It looks like that calf issue has been resolved.

[@isaacfon13]

hi men i am mexican and sorry don't speak much english but i try ok, in mexico don't celebrate the 5. de mayo the puebla batlle in mexico celebrate the 16 of september thank's for the video like and favorites

[@larrynewingham1494]

Sweet

[@haydenkennedy3306]

Did you do anything to the kaowool before covering it with the cement? Like wetting it?

[@texasironforge.4913]

dont think he did. rigidize it...

[@krisdiaz03]

Great Videos bud, really enjoy them. Keep up the great work.

[@Simplelittlelife]

Thank you very much! Really appreciate it!

[@krisdiaz03]

How's that calf doing, has it try to escape?

[@habibchahi6071]

Whats name that white thing ?

[@msblades5382]

oh you should have used a ridgidizer and some itc to coat that kaowool after kaowool is heated it gets rather fragile and becomes airborn every time you light it. ceramic fiber is far worse than insolation . hope this helps

[@j.darmonblades5006]

Shan Moldovan I'm thinking of applying this same or similar technique for my new forge. Shouldn't the cement suffice if it is covering all of the kaowool? Thanks.

[@msblades5382]

J. Darmon Blades It may but id be worried about cracking. Even with a Ridgidizor the kaowool wears out rather fast. this is specifically why I use insulation fire brick rather than kaowool in a sence it is safer and you dont have to worry about the breakdown of the kaowool.Not to mention my forge is not round but I am confident that insulation fire brick can be modified to fit round . Either way its just my preference you see many forges that use kaowool as a working surface but mine is used as a backup lining behind my soft fire brick. I sapose if you use like a saitinite clay as a coating you will probably be ok the other thing I would use is a i think its called tci 100 it is used in kilms to direct the heat back at you piece. fyi the easier you make it to reline will help rather than having a solid shell instead of a door. Thanks for the inquiry, Martin Moldovan at M/ S Blacksmithing and Blades

[@j.darmonblades5006]

Shan Moldovan thanks for the feed back. I Appreciate it.

[@msblades5382]

your welcome, all I can say is do a bit more research before you make you final build. Sincerely, Martin Moldovan at M/S Blacksmithing and Blades

[@greatmallard9318]

What's the first thing you're going to make?

[@mightyprojects1470]

where did you source your kaowool? I am from ontario canada, and am looking to find someplace that chips.

[@martineng5013]

I found a source on Amazon. I haven't ordered any of it yet but it looks interesting. There are several size and thickness options available from the same vendor. www.amazon.com/Insulation-CM-Ceramics-Fireplaces-Quadrafire-CeramicsUSA/dp/B00OBXARVY/ref=sr_1_3?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1492976087&sr=1-3&keywords=insulation+wool+fiber

[@mightyprojects1470]

Hey thanks for the info! However I was hoping Simple Little Life would of commented just because he is Canadian, and I am also in Canada. It always seems like amazon.com always has a whole ton more options than our .ca one :(

[@martineng5013]

True that. My bad, I didn't realize that it was amazon.com :/

[@gmcgregor3296]

Get hold of Toronto Blacksmith. He may be able to sell you some.

[@mightyprojects1470]

I have him on instagram, does he normally sell stuff?

[@alaub1990]

getting close!

[@texasironforge.4913]

So I guess it doesn't matter if you don't rigidize the insalated blanket ??

[@kobochy8108]

It does, if his cement ever cracks he needs to cut the forge off and not use it till its fixed. The wool is carcinogenic and will give you cancer without all necessary precautions. Which is necessary even if you rigidize, buuuut the wool is much less likely to go airborne of its been hardened

[@WastelandForge]

Do you still have all that excess kaowool from this build?

[@Daniel-Everitt]

James Fleming you can get it anywhere not cheap tho

[@WastelandForge]

Daniel Everitt, real helpful man

[@Daniel-Everitt]

James Fleming any hvac supply.. blacksmith supply bbq stores

[@quadlife6282]

How is the propane tank material going to hold up to the temperature.

[@Simplelittlelife]

+Quad Life On The Ridge so far it's fine. Also it's so well insulated that it doesn't get that hot (compared to the inside) the steel has turned blue in a few places and straw in others so I think it will last long enough. Cheers👍

[@quadlife6282]

Oh. Because may dad and I are building a forge out of one of those big propain tanks and i was wondering how it would hold up to the 2,000+ degrees ( Fahrenheit ) that the torches would put out. Thanks for the information.

[@oldredcoonhound2182]

you need a 'Tavor Day' LOL

[@jojosaristo9271]

im sorry to say, but i think you fotgot to cu away the insulation in the hole where the burner cuts through

[@zegerV]

what is the song called during the montage

[@noveoredgar4567]

darude sandstorm bring back the old memes

[@everready19373]

Japanese musak?

[@AndrewMurphy8383]

u shooold of used 100 ht on that Kaowool

[@manminusblood]

Wrong cement. And you should rigidize the ceramic wool first. Use itc 100

[@THCMusicBlog]

i got itc and kast 'olite. im thinking of using sodium silicate as a high temp adhesive; rigidize the kaowool also with sodium silicate? then 3 layers of itc (1st layer the thickest) then kast 'olite.. i think.. is this a wrong approach?

[@rotarvalentin]

I love your videos but this sooong was driving me crazy

[@ajhproductions2347]

Vali Rotar that freaking music!!!

[@Forheavenssake1ify]

I meant my inserted burner pipe was a "consumable", about 1.5" in diameter.

[@jpinto9935]

Junior Kimbrough!!

[@johnjude2685]

Rigidizer something you didn't use. Should been easier with it.

[@d.h.vargas2450]

Uh update on my comment, I did not read far enough down to Hardrock's comment on the "calf issue". Prop's to Hardrock.

[@Daniel-Everitt]

Alberta boy?

[@chaeairsoft]

Do a video talking about your tattoos! It's cool cuz you have a lot of tattoos but at first glance it looks like you don't have any!

[@Daniel-Everitt]

But I'll buy some too lol

[@fabiologo007]

viva México.

[@jcarmack0946]

Jeremy, you need to get some ITC 100-HT refractory coating to coat your kaowool. It makes your forge more efficient and allows for less fuel use to get up to forging temperature. www.hightemptools.com/itcproducts.html

[@LottoDub720]

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