Forged in Fire: Boar Spear COMBATS the Final Round *Lethal Damage Involved* (Season 3) | History

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[@mosesiwan4254]

MANDAU sword from Borneo, Indonesia

[@chasesmith5216]

I know it's not the right line but whatever "THIS IS SPARTA"

[@mosesiwan4254]

@@chasesmith5216sorry, what I mean after this may be the challenge for Mandau which comes from Borneo, Indonesia. Maybe, can searching in google or youtube for the example.

[@josephmoore643]

“A little warp in your shaft, I’m picking it up in the tube” absolutely classic

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

_"We'll see how deep it penetrates, how well it holds up."_ _"Well, Clayton, your spear really dug in deep. It went in about four inches. Came out fine. Everything is still tight, and dialed in."_ Everything about this analysis is classic!

[@adnisty4879]

@@PhantomFilmAustralia Ma man knows his "spears"

[@christopherdolan7330]

4 inches deep with a warped shaft... I can relate.

[@watchdealer11]

Dude, I'm laughing during my presentation! 😂😂😂

[@colmivers]

😂😂😂

[@nf4866]

It still buried itself quite nicely.

[@b_f_d_d]

Hahahhahaha

[@edgaraf9411]

BRUH😂

[@acesiel]

I wish they had included the explanation as they usually do, I enjoy understanding the judges' final decision.

[@gavinwong6962]

I think they were both good enough to the point where there wasn't a reason and it all came down to an arbitrary decision

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

Most likely the lug being perpendicular to the blade's edge is going against parameters and authentic traditional design.

[@CrankyPants05]

@@PhantomFilmAustralia they would have stopped it in the beginning if it was against parameters. But I agree it wasnt the original design so that's probably why

[@MrRedeyedJedi]

It would be the fact he offset his guards, making it difficult to index the weapon, and that his opponents spear did a better job with slashing the pig.. Would be my guess.

[@mactonight4221]

Same

[@TheBetterManInBlack]

Kinda felt sorry for the other guy. He looked like he could really use the money.

[@christophercaetano6305]

Not only that but his spear was strong not WORPTED LIKE ALLENS

[@omniexistus]

@@christophercaetano6305 warped

[@Luckypickles7]

@Hayden Cook I understand what your saying. But they don’t judge based off of what can be done to the weapon. They judge the weapon as is. Other guys did just as good and didn’t have a warped shaft. Both could of won

[@wiseguy9225]

@@Luckypickles7 dude he made it of a frickn pipe

[@camiloparada9529]

I thought Clayton's spear idea about having the handle perpendicular was a very clever idea

[@GaladorLP]

But still wasn't nearly wide enough. Couldn'y stop a boar at full speed

[@carlaselway]

My names clayton this is my mums google account tho 👌I’m from the uk

[@camiloparada9529]

@@carlaselway so you are the actual Clayton from the competition??

[@Anegor]

It's a good idea, but thw design is not... How to say it... 'aerodynamic'. It has to hinder the swing, even if just a little. There is reason no weapons were ever designed that way.

[@Ran_Do]

@Peter Most Rude comment from a rude person.

[@syad911]

me : can't wait to hear judges explanation why that guy lost this competition History channel : NOPE lol

[@FticaPica]

Its stupid they gave the other dude the win, he had a bent spear opposing something that isnt even worth mentioning... Ginger dude made a better spear, other dude followed the instructions

[@DevineDumbass]

It's really easy to replace a wooden shaft on a spear. Not uncommon at all for them to get broken. But the actual metal part you attach to the wooden pole is sort of important in a competition about forging. Besides you watched the video too even with the shaft bent it performed fine af

[@kalanimoeai584]

@@DevineDumbass ehhh nah

[@Rickzenbackzer]

7:15 I love how dramatic the music is for that scene of pulling a spear from some wood

[@grimmywizard]

Lmao the music producer's are overqualified

[@PixelGamer91]

7:06 Didn't know Sinestro was a judge

[@fletcher4098]

wHaT

[@fr11m24s]

Doug probably has the best job in the world

[@ChauNyan]

Depends on the person. These blacksmiths seem to really like their jobs

[@gagan77100]

No djs at strip club have best jobs.

[@angelserenade]

"Let's see how deep it penetrates, how well it holds up" Great choice of words Mr. Baker

[@BelovedChatter]

“You have a little warp in your shaft that I’m picking up in the tube”....best quote ever

[@tbc_stealth3141]

OMG 😂😂😂😂😂🤦‍♂️

[@CalebMcFadden]

Imagine they have to make a bbq knife and Doug says “It will grill”

[@MJ98.]

Nobody Clayton: 😵

[@gabrielcrespo966]

I been a smith for 20 years and i really thought the other guy would win. What a shame. Guess machinery over old style won this round

[@fredfry5100]

Are you gonna compete?

[@slovnicurling9808]

Smith for 20 years and can't see the lug being opposite to the balde was a huge flaw. I was actually surprised it was within the parameters and he wasn't disqualified at the start.

[@neerdowell6687]

@@slovnicurling9808 The lug being opposite would not damage the blade, or how you swing it. The issue was they used the Lug as a guide for the edge and not the blade. Thats a user issue not the design issue. Honestly his answer is correct. If the blade cuts into the boar, and the lugs are not much wider than the initial width of the blade, they can easily run up the shaft. His design would go against that and create a far more secure spear that would prevent the boar from just ripping its wound a little wider to get to you.

[@hudsontoo1212]

Pulling up all the way into your driveway coulda saved you a cool 45 seconds each way......

[@mfree80286]

The basic idea of the lugs being across the blade seems sound, but most likely what would happen on a deep strike is they'll slip in under the hide on the sides of the cut and deprive you of your weapon. You can push much harder than you can pull, cross-cut lugs will slip in there like a the button on a shirt. If you're stripping a shield you also lose the capability of getting a slash when you swipe downwards. Medieval weapons were often like regulations... designed (written) in blood. They were the way they were because alternate designs failed in some way, and the stakes here are very high.

[@GaladorLP]

A shield? For hunting? A shield won't do much against a charging boar

[@mfree80286]

@@GaladorLP *smacks forehead* If you are fighting another human being with that shield, the lug that hooks the shield leaves the blade in the wrong orientation for a combination move. Please read the original post again.

[@neerdowell6687]

@@mfree80286 If you stab a boar with Claytons design and the lugs go inside the boar you are likely dealing with a very dead boar. As that would be incredibly hard to do to make a wound swallow more than a inch of a parallel lug you are ripping a massive hole in the beast. going from - to x is not easy. However going from - to _ Is much easier as ripping a wound an inch on the edges of a cut simply requires the skin to rip or tear. To go into an X it requires a lot more force and effort. However you are more or less correct with the shield comment. Though a Tug and thrust would still work

[@mfree80286]

@@neerdowell6687 A very *eventually* dead boar. There's a lot of time to get gored in "eventually".

[@Gustavae]

@@mfree80286 Agree on man to man, disagree on man to boar.

[@rainy_tale]

Clayton reminds me Private Pyle from the Full Metal Jacket

[@goblinbilly2726]

Your spear....... Will keal! I love it.

[@BinbrookPaintball]

Any Smith who would pick warped material and not fix it couldn't be a master, how could this guy win

[@jlaw131985]

Wood can warp pretty easily, and it didn’t really impair performance.

[@andrewryan2559]

@@jlaw131985 yeah but you can always buy or make another shaft…. He turned in a warped shaft to a contest, would you ever do that?

[@jlaw131985]

@@andrewryan2559 a shaft can warp in transit. Not a lot can be done about that…wood is a very finicky material to environmental changes, especially heat and humidity.

[@Citizen052]

Reminds me of the spears in Baldur's gate 2.. what a game it was.

[@avatarofpapermagic]

Not long now! October the 6th yew! Baldurs Gate 3, good bye world!

[@Citizen052]

@@avatarofpapermagic i really hope it will be as good as BG2!

[@avatarofpapermagic]

@@Citizen052 surely 2020 owes us

[@Citizen052]

@@avatarofpapermagic absolutely!!

[@avatarofpapermagic]

thanks for the chat mate! Really wish 2020 and the next 50+ years are nothing but amazing for you legend!

[@luismeza797]

Close your mouth bud, that’s how you catch flys

[@con9980]

Haha my thoughts exactly Was like he was always ready to ask 'huh?'

[@jessehinman8340]

Got a real Ed vibe from him from Ed, Edd n Eddy

[@nothingforyouhere418]

I was looking for this in the comments. Some people cant help but be mouthbreathers

[@excaliburknives3572]

I met Allen at a craft show. Super awesome dude. He was selling some knives but they were expensive and I’m cheap. But we did get into a really good conversation. I didn’t get his number though.

[@kjbaran]

I wonder if these contestants ever swap numbers and still keep in touch?

[@ironberserk2175]

I can understand his thought process and give him credit for thinking about altering the wings placement, but ultimately he should have studied as to why they were that way historically, which was for a reason.

[@MMAoracle]

And what was the reason?

[@ironberserk2175]

@@MMAoracle To keep the animal/human, from further impaling itself towards you.

[@darthvaper6745]

I've got a warp in my shaft as well! Lol

[@gabestewart7131]

Clayton clearly won this better blade better everything plus a killer idea on the perpendicular stops

[@richardthomas3697]

but the 2 lugs were designed to hit a boars tusks so that it couldn't use them to rip chunks out of the hunter so having them perpendicular would have been dangerous

[@Miamcoline]

Very close one but they definitely made the right choice.

[@jasonschoonover6545]

Yeah much more detail, the warp didn't really matter, he had a sharper blade

[@neerdowell6687]

@@jasonschoonover6545 No he didn't. The blades were equally sharp and honestly a blade that can slice that well and not be perfectly on edge AND maintain a sharp edge to boot after slicing a spine. Its the better blade. They ruled solely on the Aesthetics. Which needs to be a set Parameter "Historically Accurate"

[@wilhelmmlehliw0]

@@neerdowell6687 they need to recreate an iconic weapon from history so yeah the similar it is to it's original version the better. They didn't choose it for Aesthetic reasons, it could've been the uglier spear in the world and he would've still won.

[@Mista_Jones]

Been skipping around on episodes, but glad to see they finally got Ming the Merciless judging...

[@seshanthkarthik6107]

Now that's a lotta damage

[@gavinrose9132]

Clayton said: 😦

[@Rahyena]

I watch six or seven episodes a day these days. How did I get started

[@michaelmcdonnell5998]

Alan had a warp in his shaft! Fnaar fnaar!

[@benjaminandrewcalinaya6436]

Clayton lowkey looks like the guy from Corridor Crew

[@aarcusisloading9991]

Clayton you did amazing i wanted you too win, your idea and explanation is interesting but if it aint broke dont fix it yeah? all the best to you Sir.

[@Gustavae]

All I hear from your statement is "Don't make it better. It could never be better than it already is". And yet, he made it better.

[@unluckyfriedkitten4808]

Clayton looks high af

[@LPDAY.]

Alright!

[@Zlapster]

I hate this strength test because there's such a big difference as the blade hits a joint between 2 logs or even with or against the grain of the wood...

[@Bluntz1289]

That spear didn't fail the king. His drink did.

[@ISupportTheCurr3ntThing]

dang mouth breather

[@yunanklaus1195]

Clayton's shaft is shorter but I like his idea of putting the wings lower. It could make the spear tip penetrate deeper into a boar before reaching the wings and thus inflict more damage. The shorter shaft, while it means less distance between you and the boar you stick, is more stable and maneuverable. Overall, if I'm hunting a boar with a spear, his craft would be my choice.

[@GaladorLP]

Depends on how you're huntin. With dogs holding the boar down while you strike it? Or letting the boar charge at you and impale itself? For the second you definitely nee wide strong wings, or tis gonna run through it and slice you open

[@dereks8071]

Both spears were equally matched except for the guy that somehow won had a warped spear??…

[@TheQuarterGuy]

Please tell me the full episode has the judges' explanation.

[@marcelo4721-w1i]

Clayton always has suprised pikachu face

[@IP14Gamer]

اللهم صل وسلم وبارك على سيدنا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه أجمعين

[@romeo3889]

Shoutout to billy gil

[@ktbowersbellsouth]

Tim Kennedy looks different

[@michaelmcdonnell5998]

Clayton is a bearded Wil Wheaton!

[@peterpanda8653]

If both weapons pass 3 tests they should make the contestants fight to the death to win.

[@Seelenschmiede]

Is this a reupload?

[@calebrocha2999]

Imagine you didn't win because you did not do the research or take the time to make the spear how it should be! Never take the easy road!

[@ianhorne2884]

I disagree with it being the easy road, he thought about the problem and came up with a solution... 100% on everything else though... you dont tinker with a core design element of what your making in the final round

[@calebrocha2999]

@@ianhorne2884 But you have to at least admit that he lost because he did not try to find the true solution on what was the true design of the weapon! Which would be taking the easier road. Even if you look back at the video you can see the face of David Baker, and it was the face of " I don't really care you didn't make it how it was supposed to be".

[@abevela1618]

1st winner the judges chose that I didn't agree with. They didn't even give reasons why at the end. Smh.

[@neerdowell6687]

It was more or less the Historical Accuracy but I don't think they SAY that is a parameter so it shouldn't be a key deciding factor.

[@Gustavae]

@@neerdowell6687 If anything, I feel like he improved on the effectiveness of the spear's stopping power by offsetting his lugs.

[@RashSnak]

Me gusta el formato de hacer los videos cortos, pero están dejando a un lado cosas interesantes, como el proceso de forjar las armas (en este caso fue muy corto) y también ella opinión final de mis jueces para seleccionar el ganador (por qué ganó uno y no el otro, en qué falló)

[@deplexic1585]

Bro the dude with the blue shirt should’ve won

[@jacobhunt278]

How many of y’all have all of the final round vids?

[@tigerromig4780]

What do they do with the carcasses where they’re done with them because somehow I don’t feel like they eat boat for a week.

[@Mega-P71]

They eat boar for a week

[@kevinnorwood8782]

I was hoping and praying spears would appear on Forged In Fire, but I was initially expecting something like a Zulu Iklwa, or a Greek Dory (although later, we WOULD see the Iklwa appear). I had honestly completely FORGOTTEN about this type of spear, but I also had no idea it was known as a boar spear until this episode. I had seen spears with those two wings/lugs before, but I had no idea they were initially designed to be anti-wild boar features.

[@smiplegrow1]

Why wasn't there an explanation this time

[@gino2033]

Was this a special learning edition of forged and careful it's hot!!!!!!

[@pier4330]

Creeper 1:47

[@balazare4927]

Awwwwwwwe man

[@whalebone1206]

oh my god

[@dannymckenzie8329]

Idk if i spent time making a spear and someone told me to "surrender" my weapon id be compelled to reply "come and take it", then assume a fighting stance

[@timecircle8420]

They should’ve launched the spare into the human forms.

[@Koszmarrobert]

Why you dont show how they doing in home ... i love it to watch not problem and so mutch testing, testing is boooooooring

[@benciappara2523]

Could you make a forged in fire channel?

[@robertfoster2988]

They may have used the boar spear in combat occasionally but nobody ever hunted a boar and tried to slice it up the boar was already subdued by dogs and peasants then the noble made the killing blow that would bleed it out its on tapestries

[@zTokey]

who says a spear can't cut

[@imsorryehh4905]

Not a fan that they didn't explain why Clayton's spear wasn't as good as Allen's. I mean, the seem to preform quite similar, he had a cool idea with handle perpendicular so that there was no way a boar could run through and he looked like he could use the money way more. Plus, the one guy had a warp in his spear shaft!? If you're supposed to make a boar hunting spear, the shaft plays an important role and a warped shaft like that is more likely to break, and the boar gore you.

[@stubbornone1189]

I agree with you, except for the part about the guy looking like he needs the money more. Why should that matter at all? That's like some "participation trophy" mindset BS. It's a competition, not a go-fund-me.

[@Jack-tv1lk]

Cadê o Ben ?? Mn quem e aquele cara o lado do David Baker

[@tomdarley956]

Is it just me or do they show hardly any of the actual making of the weapons now and mainly focus on the the testing

[@GaladorLP]

Thats what brings the views i guess

[@PixelGamer91]

literally running to the car, to drive to the store

[@Mahmoud605]

what happens to all the animals they use in this show, do people eat them afterwards or they are just to be thrown away?

[@RechelleAllisonLee]

Donated to a wolf shelter.

[@Mahmoud605]

@@RechelleAllisonLee good

[@grant4254]

Clayton totally deserved the win. The fact that Allen's handle was warped, I don't care if it warped before the testing or during, should have weigh more heavily on the decision. Clayton's held up just as well as Allen's during testing.

[@christophercaetano6305]

100%RIGHT SEEMS LIKELY THAT THE JUDGES LOOKED THE OTHER WAY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF A SPEAR IS IT BEING STRAIGHT OR LEVEL. JUDGES MUST BE BLIND OR JUST UNETHICAL DOESN'T MAKE A SENSE.

[@mamanamin5603]

It s crazy man, Wonderful spire.

[@adrianchew6260]

Was hoping to see the judge ride a dummy horse and stab & thrust the boar carcass, different angle give different point of result.

[@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven]

If it stabs it keels

[@OWLORDIE]

first time I disagree with the judges

[@volkerklingenschmid511]

Why do u think the other guy shoulda won?

[@OWLORDIE]

Volker Klingenschmid i think that other guy got an approach to it, tho he did the spear first time ever, the perpendicular lining with the blade and the penetration on the throw, plus the winner's weapon took a slight bend 🤷🏽‍♂️ its just an opinion tho, no disrespect

[@volkerklingenschmid511]

@@OWLORDIE i think it mostly came down to the fact that the perpendicular lining made it harder to wield without adding anything, the judges also liked the way the other guy made his spear and the winners spear also cut and pierced better

[@jlaw131985]

@@OWLORDIE the bend in the shaft didn’t affect usage and probably developed before they were testing. Wood can just do that with temperature and humidity sometimes.

[@christophercaetano6305]

Allen's spear is WORPTED,IT IS CONSIDERED DEFECTIVE HE SHOULDN'T HAVE WON!!

[@professional_larper]

Putting * lethal damaged involved * made it seem like one of the judge was gonna get hurt lethally

[@neerdowell6687]

They can't say Kill or Keal in the titles but this does let people know a kill test is involved.

[@James-uk4xi]

Really? The guy that couldn't even find a straight stick won?

[@Asertix357]

Do you really think spear shafts stayed all that straight during the medieval days, and didn't sometimes develop warping over time?

[@James-uk4xi]

@@Asertix357 Wtf are you talking about? So if I criticized someone who made a sword with a warped blade you'd ask me if I thought sword blades never warped or got damaged during the medieval days???

[@Asertix357]

@@James-uk4xi Wood, unlike steel, is prone to warping from exposure to moisture. Over at Kult of Athena, they warn customers that wood-hafted items may potentially come warped, despite their best efforts to weed out such from their inventory. Cold Steel, Windlass, Arms & Armor and countless others, the warning is the same with each of them. There's no way to ensure wood staves, poles, handles and other such items don't potentially warp at some point or another.

[@James-uk4xi]

@@Asertix357 Ok so I still don't see how that should be given a pass and a win over one that isn't

[@Asertix357]

@@James-uk4xi It probably shouldn't. But it's just one of those things. I liked the idea of the perpendicular wings, it made a lot of sense to me. But at the same time, it's a design that has no historical basis. Suggesting it was something that never actually needed to be done, regardless of how much of a good idea it might seem.

[@R4iiLy]

Wow

[@B1az1ngSuN]

First edit first guy; day 2 Second edit 2nd guy; day 3 How lazy are these clips getting? Show us all of the testing, show us each day cmon.

[@voltx4800]

Are y’all sure that’s a boar lol. I think that’s a dog, lol.

[@prsoludi9645]

First like the video then watch😎

[@professional_larper]

They were head to head. This was a false victory his whole spear was bent this was not fair.

[@jungleinsectspikewall4474]

What sword?

[@ElectricalExistence]

Both their spears were ugly af

[@Grimundead04]

Its not bend lol, the stick used is bend and its not an issue lol

[@benciappara2523]

clayton should of won

[@teagod6945]

@@benciappara2523 I agree in my opinion he did alot better I watch this alot this is the 2nd time I seen a false victory

[@Lefty16jd]

Honestly I thought Clayton should have one

[@TheMrjimmy1963]

Love this show i watch it all the time my father made knifes

[@cheeher3212]

the one that lost, his spear looks so poorly made.

[@ianhorne2884]

Neither were up to the finish standard I've come to expect from the final round , and I've watch close to every episode

[@ShadowWolf-xc2gt]

The design was off too

[@kevinnorwood8782]

@@ShadowWolf-xc2gt Yeah, that's what really killed it for him. I get where he was going, but historically, the wings/lugs of a boar spear have to be aligned with the cutting edge of the spearhead.

[@brebreboolardoo5910]

He was high

[@neerdowell6687]

@@kevinnorwood8782 Honestly his thinking is correct. A boar in full charge could easily rip their wound another half inch on either side to pass over the Lug if they are in full GO mode. The way he designed it, would stop them . The cutting edge should never be ignored for the lugs in the first place.

[@ruangmocca4295]

WIl keel

[@x.sleepy]

preformed better but still lost.

[@batmantiss]

Close your mouth clayton.

[@weaver3636]

I can't be the only who thinks the competitors look similar to each other.

[@christophercaetano6305]

A bowed or worpted spear should not have been a winner BEING it is a DEFECTIVE SPEAR!!!!!

[@arczimmermanrealisan40]

If it was defective they shouldn't be able to test it. The mere fact that it can still slice a wild boar almost in half even with a bowed shaft only meant that it wasn't an issue that can affect its total utility, and will still and can still be used the way it should be.

[@arczimmermanrealisan40]

Also taking into consideration that during the Medieval Times not every wooden shaft produced for spears would turn out straight, the winner's wooden shaft wasn't really too far off from a realistic, historically accurate spear produced from that era

[@jlaw131985]

@@arczimmermanrealisan40 modern spear shafts even come out warped a lot because wood will just warp due to temperature or humidity.

[@shaolinone9584]

Wtf they didn't even give a reason why the guy lost

[@hannebambel9651]

they probably just cut it

[@novokhatskiydmitriy1746]

Ну, кривое копье оказалось лучше прямого...

[@adityadermawan1214]

Both blade are craps. There are no craftmanship in both blade

[@kendrick2622]

So you can make a better one in World of Warcraft?

[@dhasarisaiteja8440]

Sir explain about quench oil what king of oils we can use and powder of Damascus sir

[@billywright8606]

I thought the other guys was better as it was wooden shaft and lugs work better 🤷‍♀️

[@om1n0us56]

Can someone explain who is that dwarf with the beard is next to the judges?

[@ArgonYouTube]

Dwarf?

[@jeremiahjenkins4098]

How did the guy with the bent stick won that's messed up

[@dereckrock5970]

Im the kind of guy who start hating your product when it cut my 10 minutes video