The Evolution of Halo's Mark V Armor Including Lehto's Remake

[@thegrimwrangler]

Infinite's Mk5 successfully captures the look of the original while bringing in a level of detail we could've only imagined of before now. I see motifs from infinite's Mk6 and seemingly Hw2's Mk4 when I look at the undersuit. It's my favorite, and I hope this particular design sticks with the series for years to come.

[@TotallyRealistic]

There also seems to be some Reach design language in there as well. Maybe it's Reach borrowing from CE, and it's just come full circle... idk. It's fun.

[@ch33zyburrito36]

Accurate comment. It’s honestly the best version to date everything considered.

[@BoomiestBomb]

This smells like a proxy account for a 343 employee...

[@BotBruh448]

I can see a lot of mixtures between the Reach Mk.V.B and the original Mk.V concept art, the Lehto design is obviously 1-1 but the Infinite design is absolutely terrific and falls very nicely in line with what we've gotten since it originally came out

[@sIay3rr]

@@BoomiestBombor its just very well designed

[@legendarymasterchief7620]

Both Infinite’s and Marcus Lehto’s ‘updated’ Mark V are perfect in my eyes. Infinite for the ‘renewed’ take that still stays true and honors the original Mark V, and Marcus Lehto’s for the ‘legacy’ take, revitalizing the original.

[@dancingpenguin333]

Me looking at Halo 4's edition: wow that is ugly Me looking at Halo 5's edition: what in the world of the great journey am I looking at

[@Rayload]

for me the mk v helmet in h4 looks nice

[@AlexHristo]

Halo 5 was just retarded

[@MCSPARTAN501]

Infinite's Mark V is my favorite. Lehto's remake deserves a special mention because it's almost purely a graphical upgrade with as few changes as possible. The lack of detail on the armor is deliberate, which results in a smoother look than the rest.

[@nagger8216]

Yeah, I've seen a few recreations of the marines from CE in HD with as few changes as possible and they honestly look spectacular. Really makes me wish we got a proper remaster of those designs in Reach and CEA

[@elecman748]

Lack of detail?

[@Revelants]

What drugs were 343 designers on when making H5 helmets

[@d.b.cooper170]

Pick a couple at random, put them in a bag, and give it a shake

[@averagemug]

To be fair, one of them is just and update from Halo 3s and the other isn't even supposed to be the same as CE's MK 5.

[@SavorySoySauce]

I forgot that Marcus signed his name on Chief's boot like Toy Story lol

[@AngryCheeseGirl]

Infinite's art team did a phenomenal job with the Mk V. It looks almost exactly like it did in CE, but with just enough tiny changes to push it into the 2020's. It feels believable as a halfway point between Mk IV and Mk VI, and even beats out the Lehto version to me by having better body proportions and textures. If Halo CE Anniversary was as well-made as H2A, I imagine Chief would look exactly like this Mk V does in Infinite there.

[@3lectric220]

Ya everything except the boots

[@mkevz]

​@@3lectric220I actually really like Infinite's Mk V boots, but yeah they are pretty different to the original design

[@BetaBreaking]

Imagine if they remastered CE in Infinites engine. I'd literally die from nostalgia. It perfectly captures the look of the original while bringing it into the modern day with the Infinite art style.

[@mkevz]

@@BetaBreaking I've wanted this for literal years. Also the perfect way to still use Infinite's engine with all its old DNA and "Halo feel" if they're going to move to Unreal 5 for new games, remakes of 1-3 or 1-5 in modern graphics would be absolutely beautiful and do wonders for the franchise as a whole letting people rediscover all these campaigns. Halo truly deserves something on the same level as the Dead Space remake, even if just for CE

[@jmgonzales7701]

Idk why but it doesnt look exactly, idk what is but there is something different.

[@maikorage444]

There is so much love and attention put into Letho's version.

[@Danny344S]

100% I think 343 should have just used his design with credit it is 100% better than the one they made

[@ch33zyburrito36]

@@Danny344Sdisagree. This is one of the few unique designs 343 came out with that is actually a complete improvement upon the original. Rare 343 w imo

[@Danny344S]

@@ch33zyburrito36 well that is your opinion I do not Hate it I just stated that it could be a little bit better that’s all anyways yeah 👍🏼

[@BotBruh448]

​​@@Danny344Sthere are things that Lehto paid more attention to, it being a 1-1 recreation, however, it doesn't have to fit infinite's bipeds or animations, and it's not entirely looking to fit with the broader halo style of armors, infinite's is clearly taking minor notes and design language cues from other armors, I agree that Lehto's is more faithful, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't really happy with Infinite's design too

[@blueshit199]

except for the legs

[@SergeantShadPool117]

The direct comparison with the OG CE armor and the infinite version, even Marcus’s version, it’s incredible

[@JAY132]

The new Infinite version of the Mark V is the best 343 version by a mile, and is the best version to appear in a Halo game since Halo 1. The Marcus Lehto recreation of that original armour however, just exists on a higher plane all by itself. Together with the recreated Warthog, Scorpion and weapons, those pictures he shared on Twitter still have me dreaming to this day of what a ‘25th Anniversary’ remake would look like… So yeah, the Marcus remake is in a league of its own, in my opinion.

[@AHPcameron]

I think Halo Infinite did a great job interpreting Bungies work while Marcus of course i think stays more true to his original design of the armour

[@averagemug]

The proportions kinda bug me though. Just a nitpick.

[@LordEmpyreal]

The only things about Infinite's that didn't quite hit right, are that there's no longer a belt connecting the pouches at the front to the brace at the back (which is missing lights and the dark blue outline color). And the grooves in the backpack are missing all the little blue and white lights. Everything else about this armor set is on-point. Now if only it was actually a core, and the shop was back down at the $10-15 range for bundles like this as it was in seasons 2 and 3.

[@hellcatdave1]

The calf armor is wrong too, and so are the feet. But it's ok, as it is the best recreation of the armor that 343 has done. Ever.

[@Danny344S]

@@hellcatdave1yeah also the chest is kinda weirdly shaped etc

[@LordEmpyreal]

@Darizzard93 that's been debunked. It was a false claim, no evidence was provided, and 343 actually looked into the issue and found that it wasn't happening.

[@zanghproductions2559]

​@hellcatdave1 that's because certain parts of the armor are based on Eddie Smith's concept art for the canceled Halo movie, since he worked alongside Marcus Lehto when he worked at Bungie to help design the Mk V

[@zanghproductions2559]

​@@Danny344S that's because certain parts of the armor are based on Eddie Smith's concept art for the canceled Halo movie, since he worked alongside Marcus Lehto when he worked at Bungie to help design the Mk V

[@trashcompactorYT]

man this video really puts into perspective how bad the artstyles of Halo 4 and 5 were

[@tylersaunders3726]

Totally forgot about the colored undersuits 🤦‍♀️

[@CritStanley]

I wouldn't say bad. Just needlessly different.

[@DaHazelDurg]

4's wasn't that bad, I didn't mind it much when H4 came out. But I never got into Halo 5 and dear god the Mk.V armor in H5 is uh.... Something to behold, I guess. Halo Infinite's renditions are really nice though, a huge improvement over H5.

[@trashcompactorYT]

@@CritStanley no it was awful. Even without the Halo title the armors were noisy and for some reason they really fucking loved huge shit sticking out of your forehead

[@DukeBluedevil70]

@@DaHazelDurgYou clearly haven’t played 4 in a while if you think this.

[@kaozspartan9289]

I actually felt very proud that I managed to have input on Lehto's remake. He originally had a hexagonal designed pattern on the visor and I reminded him that the hexagonal texture was more of a Covenant trait before 343 put it on everything. He then changed it back to smooth glass. He could have very easily disregarded it.

[@contagiousstorm]

Mark V Zeta really seems more like a remake of Mark IV

[@marranin007]

It looks more like the halo 4/5 mkVI helmet to me

[@Eyeling]

The Halo 2 Anniversary model is my favourite. It looks so cool. As much as Anniversary graphics didn't capture the original art style, I still wish there was a version of CE multiplayer with the anniversary graphics and updated MK4.

[@TheObscuran]

Lehto's Helmet, Chest, and biceps + Infinite's Back, Forearms, hands, legs, waist, and metal panties.

[@luxviator7346]

halo 5's was made out of disdain towards anything "Old halo".

[@Marksman3434]

Infinite’s Combat Evolved MkV looks absolutely gorgeous. Easily the best one yet

[@thenormie]

While I do prefer Lehto’s version because I was d riding it the moment I discovered he was working on it, I don’t hate the infinite one at all, and they finally got the helmet right. It does a great job of taking the identifiable parts plus even details most people wouldn’t pay attention to and updated it to fit the universe without over compromise but still taking liberty to make it match. That being said there is still a ton of charm in the Lehto remake that isn’t present in the Infinite version that I like more, and I haven’t even played CE all the way through.

[@Asyndence]

Infinite’s MK V is sexy but not $20 sexy. It’s very nice to see everyone running around with a decent looking Spartan for a change

[@Dinoboyification]

This was very well done I appreciate all the 360 views of every angle of the armor! You should definitely consider doing this for the evolution of a bunch of other armors between games. You gained a Like and Sub from me :)

[@GuadalupeF.Arredondo]

I can’t believe Reach holds to this day

[@balloon685]

Song is under the cover of night

[@CrackFoxtrot24]

Lehto's remake is the canon, he made the damn original thing

[@jeffd.683]

"In a top 10 list, 5 is greater than 6!" "WE'RE NOT A TOP TEN LIST!"

[@TommFoolery]

While Lehto's remake is still absolutlely beautiful, I actually think Infinite has damn near perfected this suit. The only things I'd take from Lehto's version is the peice behind chief's shoulders go way further up in CE and Lehto's version than it does in Infinite (I hope you know which part I meant lol) and I wish the lights on the backpack peice were more emphesised.

[@CaptPatrick01]

Every time I see the Mk. V helmet I just cannot decouple the association of it with _Caboose._

[@LANGIMATION]

1:55 MK V (B) and MK V

[@CritStanley]

So is there a canon explanation for the Reach Mark V and the CE Mark V armor and helmets co existing?

[@nagger8216]

Apparently the armor in Reach was retconned as to being a variant, Mark V (B). But before CEA, that's originally what Bungie intended the design to look like in HD graphics.

[@CritStanley]

@@nagger8216i guess that is acceptable

[@TheFoxEssence]

Great use of this track! One of my all time favourites! ❤

[@VIKTOHR]

Love this helmet. I used it on all my Spartans in each game that it was in.

[@ian7487]

Bro wtf even was Halo 5. Whole game feels like a nightmare

[@wolfrank3680]

😆😆😆

[@T-WiPROD2]

Guardian's Mark V Alpha truly was a warcrime

[@marshall3254]

Looks more like the enforcer helmet in infinite than mark v

[@samdoo1433]

Took them over two decades but they finally captured the orginal essence again

[@ion_force]

As someone who is a die-hard halo 1 fan, this version of the Mk v comes way closer than any previous attempt to recreate the chiefs' armor. Even though the price was eye watering, I still copped it. I wanted to throw 343 a bone for doing some good with season 5 and for this treat of an armor kit. And the limited customization on the kit makes for lots of fun options. Overall its not the worst DLC I have ever bought for a game. But in the end... I did it to flex on the haters. Edit: I am not crazy about the shoulders.

[@WretchedHobbit]

Same!

[@Spillow-C]

oh my god the halo 5 one is sooo bad.

[@AttakusZakus]

Technically the Halo 5 version is Mark V (A), the original Mark V prototype that was strangely brought forward to be used by Spartan IV Gen-2 users.

[@Spillow-C]

@@AttakusZakus yeah i get it, but its more like a butchered version than a alternative one,

[@Tronx431]

It's alpha 😂

[@spark_bears]

Great comparisons!

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

I’m just here for the music. Under Cover of Night was just a piece that played in a moment on Two Betrayals that I was reminded of.

[@Dommbuscus]

Thanks for the track name

[@TyrantJaeger]

The Mark V in Halo Infinite looks perfect. Whoever designed it did a fantastic job. Where the hell were they when 343 was making CE Anniversary? The one in that game looked in a Chinese knockoff. And the ones for Halo 4 and 5 somehow managed to look worse. Bout time it was given a proper rendition.

[@Dommbuscus]

Honestly, I don't think 343i did much for the Anniversary games. It was a third-party/sub-division, like how the GTA Definitive Trilogy wasn't actually made by Rockstar, but a spin-off from them

[@TyrantJaeger]

@@Dommbuscus It was mostly just reused assets from Halo 3 and Reach. And whatever assets they made themselves (like Chief's model) were terrible. Sometimes I wish they'd redo it.

[@borttheattorney6012]

@@DommbuscusIt was Saber Interactive that did CEA and 2A

[@aperson9236]

Has noone ever noticed the goddamn CARRY HANDLE on the back of the H4 armor?!

[@maxmillianwiegel1643]

Halo infinite’s mk5 is just immaculate. I love it.

[@nybergsgarage]

it's barfing time.

[@apexarmada1419]

@@nybergsgaragewhat

[@nybergsgarage]

@@apexarmada1419 sorry. somehow I misread that comment as halo 5's mark v is immaculate. makes a lot more sense now that I reread it.

[@eragonbromsson1122]

I wonder which is the in-universe canon design. Infinite Mark V or CE Anniversary Mark V ?

[@BotBruh448]

Perfections, been waiting for this (i dont have the ability to make one myself)

[@Raven_Wolfe23]

id say the only thing missing on the Infinite one is the Lights on the back part not being visible, other then that its a real good update to the CE version

[@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903]

Lehto still even put his initials on his remake’s boot. Ain’t that sweet

[@yeehawj24]

343i nailed it with the Mark V for Infinite.

[@yrr2189]

1:22 you vs her friend that she tells you not to worry about

[@Randomrobot-fs4du]

Hey look, a mark V!

[@TuBui2]

Can someone explain the design choice of the "chin vents"? In the OG Mark V they curved along with the profile of the helmet. In recent versions, they stick out, unsupported, like little wings.

[@amog8202]

Either didn't notice or decided to make it more like how an old gas mask looks Do think the older configuration looks better

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

For the armor's design, I love Lehto's and Infinite's designs most. In regards to the visor designs however, the OG, Halo 3, and Halo 5's are the my favorite. A key feature for visors for me is that they need some sort of detail on them to give a sort of "face." Halo CE had shadows baked into the visor from the upper sunvisor, giving the helmet some sort of "eyes." Halo 3 and 5 replicated this with adding engravings to it like most other helmets, since the old method was unrealistic in terms od lightings. Every other version of the armor seems to go for the original's smoothness but neglect the helmet's naad for a face, making it look sort of dead. And for color, I like OG's the most. The shiney texture being used for Chief's armor being similar to that of Covenant textures is a great world building design that shows that the armor was made with reverse-engineered Covenant shielding technology, and is a detail that any other design since then has lacked.

[@SpartanBrix]

If you ask me, the MARK V on the cover of Ghosts of Onyx is PERFECT. I don’t know why they never used that design.

[@tactical7601]

Wait, where's the Menachite helmet?

[@AscendMedia77]

That’s actually supposed to be a recreation of Grenadier

[@NoahR_]

@@AscendMedia77 It's based on Halo 3 concept art of Mark V iirc.

[@MasonAveKid437]

They ahould have kept the original slightly faded shinier armor coating for the kit in Infinite. Especially since the costing they chose looks almost identical to 2 other basic ass green coatings we already have.

[@chheinrich8486]

The mark 5 from ce and the mark 4 from halo wars are my favorite mjölnir armors😊

[@lunchbox997]

Man Lehto did such an amazing job, so did 343 with Infinite's MkV, but I hope at some point Lehto's can be modded into a game sometime. Shame it won't be put into a game in any official capacity.

[@eidannishidan3794]

image H Infinite model with Letho's colors. Perfection

[@CargoShorts7]

Lehto really nailed every single little detail with this revitalized MK V armor. Now the only question is… is Infinite’s MK V armor kit worth the $21 in the shop? 😭

[@mr2meows]

nah all you can do is change the color cant even add any armor effects or anything

[@SAClassHunterZero]

Marcus Lehto was right: Those CE arms are HELLA LONG

[@abelramirez7320]

Wow, what happened during CEA lol

[@Bizargh]

"BTS: Anniversary Campaign" might give you 343 Industries' short, marketing-suitable version of the story. They were actually using the full Halo: Reach Mark V set-up in earlier builds (As well as the Halo: Reach Assault Rifle & Pistol), but then decided that it warranted a custom job that went through at least one iteration that the public saw before the final result. Unfortunately, the proportions didn't win it all that many favours, especially for the Helmet (At least that's the most common criticism it gets and it's the one thing that stops me liking it more than I otherwise would). It's just too bad the circumstances didn't allow for much more of the game's character, vehicle & weapon models to get such a treatment, let-alone a more considered one (I wouldn't say that every ported asset was an unwise choice, but it definitely bears the signs of "A project with a strict budget & a tight deadline" for how haphazard much of them are compared to Halo 2: Anniversary's more considered use of such ported assets, even if my only guess as to why they used the Halo 4 Warthog for it instead of the more-suited-for-the-era Reach one was "We've gotta shoehorn in our company's iconography" or some other nonsense).

[@toozigooti]

I really love the MkV because of it's sleek and simple design. It's really futuristic, in my opinion.

[@rykkerjones786]

I'll stick to the versions before infinite, 22 bucks isn't worth less customization

[@EasyTargetNIN]

On god halo 5s version is hideous. But thank goodness. They made it right with infinite

[@EvoSteve89]

Who is Lehto? What game is this "Lehto remake" in?

[@nagger8216]

He's the guy that originally designed the armor in CE, he remade it in HD about a year or two ago

[@Danny344S]

I’ve been wanting them to add back the halo 3 mark v helmet for awhile and I know it will never happen

[@TheBeastlyBurrito]

I can only pray for combat evolved anniversary 2 in the infinite engine. They already nailed the design with the covenant, and bring in THE FLOOD. With the new flood cosmetics, I would eat my hat if another remaster is announced within the next six months

[@SegaMario]

Infinite's CE Mark V isn't 100% perfect, but it's undoubtedly the best it's ever looked since Halo 4. The visor shape still has that subtle Halo 4-esque shape to it, but it's still mostly 1:1 with CE's.

[@CritStanley]

Halo 4 and 5 have the opposite issues. The Helmet in 4 looks really good, but the armor looks like it has entire pieces missing. The armor in 5 looks pretty good (its just missing the utility belt with all the pouches and takes too many creative liberties) but its helmet looks pretty off.

[@dg7347]

halo 5 actually takes *no* creative liberties it pretty much put the original armor from classic ce on new spartans. it intentionally looks the way it does like the ce magnum in 5

[@12LoLproductions]

Mk V is timeless

[@Big_Tuna81]

They Need to Combine the LEHTO REMAKE and the HALO INFINITE Mark V versions together now that would be the most ultimate iconic to form of the Mark V outfit.💯

[@k.bermejo7334]

All we need now is HW's MK IV 🙏

[@sheahi]

Halo 4+5 looks like they duct tape armor to children.

[@JernauMoratGurgeh]

seeing it next to Lehto's remake, Infinite Mark V really underdelivers in a few big ways

[@averagemug]

Care to explain, not hating I just wanna hear your opinion.

[@hypershadic3314]

When did Lehto design that remake?

[@Cocostinkypaws]

2 best helmets 343 has designed is the mark 7, and without a doubt the mark 5 zeta.

[@bluefuntimewolfy8416]

only problem i have with Infinites is the chest piece but that's just a nitpick and its an amazing kit

[@DukeBluedevil70]

Incredible how pathetic the 343 versions are next to the Chad Lehto remake version.

[@loganvanwingerden3653]

Halo infinites is absolutely amazing along with the remake too

[@DowneyMax]

Halo Infinite's art style took a lot from Reach, and it shows. The new MK5 looks refined with the added details, while Lehto's model is very true to the original, as if it was a higher poly model of the CE armor.

[@jakewilliams1344]

The halo 4 and 5 one looked so awful jesus christ

[@Danny344S]

I like the infinite mark v ce but the chest is slightly off and so are the pouches but i do not give a Fuck this is the most accurate mark v we have gotten ever from 343i in my opinion so I live to breath mark v armor lol Shit is perfection but I also love the mark v helmet from halo 3 it is my favorite variant of all the modern mark v helmet designs I wish they would have made the body of the armor in infinite like lehto’s

[@apexarmada1419]

Tbf the armour (with the exception of the helmet) is based off of Eddie Smith’s version of the Mark V so that’s why they look different.

[@SeriousRyno]

The one thing they all get wrong is the shine of the original. It made it look very futuristic where the modern redesigns just look like regular painted metal that you would see in the modern day, and that's boring.

[@CritStanley]

I'm okay that the shiny gloss is gone. :P Honestly, it would be like painting a target on the wearer's back. Screaming "HI, I'M RIGHT HERE!!" So its probably an intentional detail that the Halo artists leave out.

[@lance9800]

Lehto's is the best

[@paskelrey]

Where did you pull these from?! That is not H4 and H5...

[@apexarmada1419]

What

[@KoPT01]

I think Lehto's is a perfect 10/10, but the one in Infinite is a solid 9/10.

[@burger_470]

Ima save my money by using the hero’s of reach mark v helmet💀

[@FortitudeeFitness]

Lehto remake is a lot better but the ammo pouches on the infinite design are more detailed, a mix of both would be perfect.

[@Spillow-C]

it doesnt look detailed tho, its too faithful in a bad way

[@AttakusZakus]

I especially like the Fusion Reactor’s side glowy bits on Lehto’s remake. Wish they had that on the Infinite one.

[@FortitudeeFitness]

@@Spillow-C i'd rather the ammo pouches look more detailed but i get what you mean less is better sometimes.

[@tairo_420]

​@AttakusZakus ye this, the overall model is perfect, it just needs more of those glowing bits from the original and it would be beyond perfection

[@Tronx431]

Lehto seems to be the most accurate to the og but infinite is real close and looks amazing.

[@darkphoenix2]

Nice to see they finally translated the original to modern graphics, seems like Bungie and 343 could never get it 100% right

[@ChefandTheArbistor]

I hate, with a passion, CEA’s Mark V. I hate it more than I hate Halo 4 and 5s. It makes him look fat, for gods sake.

[@nagger8216]

Don't forget the lil T-Rex arms too

[@ChefandTheArbistor]

@@nagger8216exactly. And the visor isn’t gold, and the armour colour is too light.

[@alansanvicente4294]

Holy shit, Mark V Alpha from Halo 5 is horrible 💀

[@XxBravo2003xX]

Lehto remake looks just like the Joyride Halo 1 action figures

[@Milkpocalypse]

343 have attempted the classic version so many times and missed with all of them

[@keenanrobinson7239]

Nah.

[@thegrimwrangler]

What're you smoking? Infinite's Mk5 is perfect gtfoh

[@tuckersbaby]

Halo 4’s was more faithful than Reach, it just needed a black undersuit. Infinite’s is good, but there’s no way in hell I’m paying $20 for armor, let alone armor I can’t customize.

[@keenanrobinson7239]

@@tuckersbaby I caved in 😔

[@BrandonBreezeyVirgo]

I actually like how Halo 4 did the design helmet wise. As it feels more like the original same as Infinite. But also I like Halo 3’s version.

[@thendroidz]

letho remake is the best, halo 5 looks goofy as hell, wtf were they thinking

[@darkspark5854]

1:28bro halo 5’s mk5 alpha looks so cartoonish wtf 😂

[@mugin2]

infinites mark v is genuinely gorgeous, sucks I gotta pay 20 big ones for it tho

[@saulovalleb]

Amazing to see this and realize that those past designs were really bad, halo infinite did an excellent job at redesigning and modelling the armors.

[@blueshit199]

this is honestly the most beautiful Halo armor but wtf is going on with the Halo 3 version

[@R3TR0--93]

I about puked when I was the Mark 5 helmet in Halo 5, what the fuck was that?