Forget C - Assembly is All You Need

[@caffeine01]

> reads title > sees video length *oh god here he goes again*

[@Capewearer]

Isn't like this is average length of his videos? I am not surprised, to be honest.

[@xazzzi]

392 bytes of BLOAT

[@chriswinslow]

392 is HUGE for asm. This is Assembler’s equivalent to using React lol

[@igricRBX]

Disgusting

[@hentype]

Used to be a big deal. Atari 2600 has 2600 RAM

[@skipdrill373]

This is the elf header.

[@Digitalgems9000]

@@chriswinslow LOOL

[@rostislavarts]

Forget Assembly - Pure Bytecode is All You Need

[@SoftBreadSoft]

Bytecode is overrated, I just bought a billion transistors.

[@knodesec]

@@SoftBreadSoft No. Electrons is enough for everyone :)

[@NotMarkKnopfler]

Forget Pure Bytecode. 0V and 3V is all you need. 😜

[@ZeyHex]

@@SoftBreadSoft Haha, here we come to FPGA.)

[@fus3n]

Bytecodes are usually higher level the assembly, so it doesn't really work here.

[@JD.297]

As a german I like the randomly ocuring "scheiße" phrase

[@merlininthevoid2889]

Meine Freunde

[@Capewearer]

That's very common catch-phrase in post-Soviet countries, especially Russia. Often people may use "Hände hoch!" and "Verstehen?", even though last one may be incorrect. As much as I am aware, German language doesn't approve usage of abrupted sentences. I suppose, the correct one would be "Haben Ihr das Verständnis?". Please, ensure that is valid sentence to say. I did study German a long ago.

[@Kingbubs353]

Habt ihr das verstanden. Would be the correct phrase​@@Capewearer

[@EddyWydraTV]

Also popular in Poland

[@Capewearer]

@Kingbubs353 okay, but why "das" instead of "dieses"? I know I shouldn't rely on sub-concious part of mind, but I always preferred to point it directly. Is that matter of taste?

[@MyriadColorsCM]

Today I learned that Tsoding is surprisingly good at beatbox.

[@chriswinslow]

14:46 I saw it. I knew you were really a passionate PHP developer at heart! I don’t blame you, it’s a very decent language too, I wish it was in place of JS.

[@MrAlanCristhian]

I want to learn it and try it because I heard it has the best implementation of OOP ideas.

[@stefanalecu9532]

​@@MrAlanCristhian if we really want to go to the source, the best, most honest implementation of OOP would be in Smalltalk.

[@MrAlanCristhian]

​ @stefanalecu9532 I mean, the most practical and productive OOP implementation. Not the most honest. To give you an example, according to academia, a class should have private members, so Java, C++ and C# have that feature. But not Python. Python sacrificed that feature to get productivity. Almost all OOP haters are Java, C++ and C# developers; because those languages implemented OOP ideas the worst way possible. And they assume that because OOP is bad in java, so is bad in all languages. But that is wrong. It's like assuming that because Python is slow, so all languages are slow.

[@andie2334]

Прелесть фасма ещё в том, что у него многопроходный препроцессор, благодаря этому можно легко делать полиморфный код, просто делая тупую замену (mov arg1, arg2) на условный (push arg2; pop arg1) и прикрутив туда псевдогенератор чисел на времени компиляции получать совершенно разный код для одной и той же инструкции. И вуаля, не нужны constexpr, шаблоны и bootstrap для плюсов)

[@anywaylose3999]

Bro is just waking up every morning and have new "well, today is assembly day" thoughts in the head.

[@blablub-c23]

can't wait for Zozin to touch Common Lisp for full enlightenment

[@falsechord]

how much does common lisp differ from clojure? i wanted to learn lisp aswell but emacs turned me off

[@blablub-c23]

@@falsechord I work with CL almost every day since my company specializes in maintaining OG-lang codebases for companies and universities, but I've never tried Closure, which is too new for my job :))) I know that Clojure is built on top of the JVM and has 1-class interop with Java, oriented more towards functional programming whereas CL is like a multiparadigm Swiss knife and depends on a specific implementation

[@blablub-c23]

​@@falsechord if you want to dive into the depths of Lisp, I would recommend (in my humble opinion of course) to start with my beloved racket and then yes, unironically elisp since its alive and you would be loved by Zozin. When you are roasted enough, you can try CL ;)

[@adamrmoss]

@@blablub-c23 Racket is my favorite LISP but Cojure is very cool

[@TEHNOTRAHER]

Nested macros are actually super useful You could have used it to define for loop macro so that you dont have to pass anything to 'endfor' macro All you have to do is to declare 'endfor' macro inside of 'for' macro, because 'endfor' is nested in 'for', it is aware about all labels in 'for' macro macro for i, low, up { local start, end mov i, low start: cmp i, up jge end macro endfor \{ inc i jmp start end: \} } Although you have to escape '{' and '}'

[@Mozartenhimer]

But then you have to maintain a stack in the macro who the endfor needs to pop for nested loops. No?

[@TEHNOTRAHER]

@@Mozartenhimer Yes, i forgot about that, i was kinda rusty, havent touched fasm in years. It can be dealt with like so macro for i, low, up { local start, end mov i, low start: cmp i, up jge end macro end_for \{ inc i jmp start end: \} } macro endfor { end_for purge end_for restore end_for restore end restore start } Then following code will be valid: mov rax, 0 for r15, 0, 10 for r14, 0, 10 add rax, 1 endfor endfor ret; rax = 100

[@JPTHECREATOR0]

Forget EVERY LANGUAGE, all you need is LISP and ASM :)

[@oPatrickVico]

Unironically

[@OeHomestead]

I started my coding adventure learning MC68000 Assembly/Machine Code back in the 80's, making Amiga demos, games and apps. It's still my favourite language. AsmOne FTW :-D

[@valuemastery]

Before doing 68k assembler (on my Atari), I did 6502 assembler. On my first computer (a VIC20), I did not have an assembler, so I wrote a hex monitor in Basic and used it to program space invaders in machine code. I was 13 years old at that time and used to carry a list of all hex codes for the assembly instructions with me all the time. I still remember most of these decades later.

[@mahanfarzaneh4639]

I have never clicked faster in my life

[@nikhils7583]

Me too

[@Zero-oq1jk]

Clickachu Clicka Clicka Cli!

[@olaff667]

perfect timing, i was about to practice some linux assembly for my so injector

[@nesdi6653]

I agree

[@maybenot909]

Great. I was just suffering trying to make a language and this seems like a better backend than C. Thank you kind mister for telling me about this! 😊

[@danielstephengilbert]

dude this is awesome to watch! thanks!

[@hotdrogon9350]

Best Assembly of Beginner 16-bit MASM Assembly

[@Anticitizen666]

I used to use that for demos, back in the BBS days :) Oh, and self-modifying viruses for fun...

[@Left4cookie]

I never tried MASM but I liked MIPS as a starter. It allso RISC, which i like because RISC-V is a promessing open source architecture :D

[@Anticitizen666]

I use ASM a lot with microcontrollers, but there seems little point with x86 now as the compilers do such a good job. The only exceptions I've found are when you can hand-optimise the use of the vector processing registers but it's pretty niche.

[@FlanPoirot]

if you're making ur own language and don't want to touch the antichrist's backend (LLVM) you'll have to write your own assembly codegen (apparently u should do this according to a lot of modern language designers, they all hate LLVM lol)

[@Serizon_]

@@FlanPoirot there is qbe which I have found is way way simpler but hey , I don't know.

[@pLez097]

Forget assembly 0 and 1s is all u need

[@Paulo-c3n]

forget 0 1 a magnet is all you need

[@Omena0]

Forget magnet punch cards are all you need

[@igricRBX]

5 volt is all you need

[@9mmPeppaLeaks]

Bro probably doesn’t know code in its simples form, base is not numbers; it is actually broken up into tallies and then translated into numbers base2, and hexadecimals base 16

[@9mmPeppaLeaks]

Unary Numerical System is the basis for representing all computing and is the beginning of Computer Science, you can go deeper and learn engineering if you would like but that is outside the field of computer science and is Electronics Engineering

[@craftrumzen2393]

assembly is such a beautiful language

[@Argoon1981]

the segment and section thing, reminded of "@require" and "@ensure" contracts in C3 language, even thou my main language is not English, I think both words are synonyms of the same thing, but in C3, they mean different things, the first means, at function call, make sure something coming into a function, is what you expect, the second one means, at function return, make sure something coming out of the function, is what you expected. :)

[@zperk13]

"Require" and "ensure" aren't synonyms, but they are kinda similar. Valid: "I require air, food, and water to live" Invalid: "I ensure air, food, and water to live" Valid: "Air, food, and water ensure I live" Invalid: "Air, food, and water require I live" Ok that last one is grammatically correct, it just doesn't make sense. It implies that if I die, then air, food, and water, will cease to exist or something. You can do something similar with the first invalid thing with a slight tweak: "I ensure (that) air, food, and water live" "Require" is more so a synonym of "need" "Ensure" is more like "make it so" or "make sure that"

[@ratchet1freak]

for that last branchfree attempt you could instead use "sete" which sets the register to 1 if the last comp is equal

[@bogdan_ov]

a day after the publication of this video, fasm repo reached 988 stars

[@rafaelcastrocs]

I really enjoyed this subject, I've learned a lot, please more

[@handledByHandle]

Forget everything. You don't need anything.

[@Czeckie]

I, for one, was wondering if you need the null termination for strings, so thank you chat commenter

[@dnkreative]

I used fasm itself to build binary ISO image for my OS. So you don't have to write executables with it, you can literally assemble any fromat. It's like webpack for binaries.

[@ItsD3vil]

10:35 Correct me if I'm wrong, is there no #embed I think for embedding?

[@the-last-spark]

you can do embedding in c you can use the linker on a binary that will give you an object file with global const variables that point to the start and end of the file

[@ItsD3vil]

@@the-last-spark yeah I know about that but I was talking about if there is a pre-processor for it like the fasm one

[@frankcasanova2132]

output of a perfectionist:

[@fevicoI]

Bro can think in ASM and C. Meanwhile it took me 10 minutes to understand each line. That is how we compare.

[@shrddr]

I'd love to see tsoding explore demoscene kind of programming as I never got into it but allegedly it's a combination of low level code, audiovisual stuff and intolerance to bloat, everything our man is known for

[@androth1502]

after years... only 1 issue. that's quality.

[@beauteetmusculation8191]

And the issue isn't actually an issue. Awesome

[@nel_tu_]

34:20 missed comptime variables opportunity

[@chesterhackenbush]

The only problem with assembly is that it is machine and operating system specific.

[@rj7250a]

It can be portable across OSes if the assembly dont use any syscalls or use the OS's API. Wich happens a lot, in many libraries 90% of code is C, then Assembly is used on hot code that the compiler cant optimize well, so the same x86 Assembly can run on Linux and Windows

[@chesterhackenbush]

@@rj7250a I agree with you... however good luck using X86 assembler on an ARM based processor.

[@acasualviewer5861]

Check out how WOZMON dealt with different architectures. Yes the assembly language is specific, but you can map different firmware functions (and OS functions as well). Macros could help a lot with that. But yeah, as everything in Assembly there's a certain amount of tediousness.

[@BadComoc]

when's the pure assembly demoscene visualiser project

[@ioannesbracciano4343]

As a Greek, I find your channel name hilarious

[@negrastormentas2865]

You are a master clickbaiter, my friend.

[@TSW3585]

Like for the beatbox on 2:19 . I did not expected .

[@Feal-flf]

im waiting for the day tsoding will post "Forget Assembly - OP Code is all you need"

[@s4n7r0]

10:35 c23 has "#embed" directive now

[@fantomass47]

Please put your chat on stream above webcam to save it for yt vods. It is ruining immersion when you can't see people's KEKW :D

[@zteamvideo2561]

I just watched for the effs

[@neo1647]

я никогда и не знал Ц. От его синтаксиса стошнить может. Вот ASM это сила, красота, лаконичность, мощь.

[@gnot7900]

Ц это лучшее что может описать алгоритм из имеющихся быстрее чем ассемблер. Круто конечно красиво лаконично мощно писать небольшое ядро несколько лет когда это можно сделать за неделю при этом не так много потеряв

[@neo1647]

@@gnot7900 как преодолеть рвотный рефлекс от синтаксиса разновидностей Ц. Алгоритм то описать можно на любом языке высокого уровня, лучше конечно написанном профессионалами, а не любителями. 😉 А так да.. современное мощное оборудование компенсирует любой огород иснтрукций от современных кодеров

[@r-prime]

C23 does have embed! So technically it does have the feature from the start of the vid... But only since last year

[@andrewcrook6444]

High level assembler

[@Cdaprod]

1:30 🤣 that’s the perfect minimal binary

[@UltravioletMind]

MLIR stream when?

[@RiteshRanjan-x4k]

Program in DOSbox

[@aleksvitek798]

Which OS and IDE is this

[@not_kode_kun]

Void Linux with Emacs. He has 2 recent videos of him setting his new environment up.

[@odanabunaga2505]

чуваку пойдет забить рукава )) годный видос

[@hubstrangers3450]

Thank you....

[@jamessorrel]

I haven't done much assembly, only 68hc11 for a class, but this was fun

[@2udo]

You will immensely benefit from learning reverse engineering, in assembly. Try it, and if you've already tried it, then refresh your memory.

[@nesdi6653]

More info

[@doodocina]

1:54:06 so without macro you write "msg: db ..." BUTT with macro "msg ...". notice : sign after msg. btw i didn't test if "msg:" works when macro is defined yet

[@ArtemMessaggio]

Why FASM over any other assembly implementation?

[@rusi6219]

I prefer to do the boolean algebra in my head then type in the 0s and 1s

[@wchen2340]

my head does inline nops all day. without typing^

[@BenjaminMaggi]

C is universal assembler is not, anybody knows that, and assembler macros have been around forever, so it's like high-level coding anyhow, not hard at all

[@davidlu1003]

I cannot believe I understand what you mean.😁😁😁

[@superchillh3o]

you may consider beatboxing as an alternate career path if this programming thing doesn't work out btw

[@donaldrshaffer]

well done

[@sanketsbrush]

I have never seen someone using assembly just out of curiosity

[@Levi_OP]

5:04 the freezeframe 😭

[@duanebonas8630]

yeah i use FASM but everybody eBPF is the best next thing to use with FASM can do loads stuff

[@CookieGod24]

A world where ASM was consistent would be interesting, also check out Clay (C Layout)

[@ashj5952]

Forget Assembly - pressing a button continuously to send pulses of electricity is all you need.

[@bhabbott]

Been there, done that! Burning fuse-link PROMs one bit at a time with switches selecting the address and bit number. Push the button 10 times to make sure the fuse is properly blown. Make a single mistake and your expensive chip is toast!

[@ashj5952]

​@@bhabbott rookie. next up - display a 60fps game with raytracing using buttons.

[@MichaelObrien-n5m]

Mr. Zozin is awesome.

[@georgecop9538]

Please write an disassembler for x86. Good luck with that tho, mov has like 20 opcodes (+ the REX combinations)

[@vikinator5371]

I see you the first time and the first thing i notice is your funny language that i like and me as a german the random "scheiße" xD

[@user1lyy]

ASSEMBLLY?! goat

[@Leverquin]

why is raw that he is selected has that random 55 number?

[@CommodoreAmigo500]

Waiting for Tsoding Operating System

[@naranyala_dev]

clean code assembly

[@graydhd8688]

Never thought I would see inline python

[@simple0x8923]

that's why c exist all you need is c

[@52ouls]

I make some of these sounds when I work😂

[@TestTest-tj4nt]

Do I need to drink vodka while watching this?

[@_Holy_Lance_]

Hell, custom hardware with rom microcode assembly is all you need.

[@humanalien1]

Personally I prefer to use NASM

[@nesdi6653]

More please. Can i use java in assembly

[@bmazi]

What is the font and the color scheme?

[@abenassefa]

Iosevka font and gruber darker theme

[@gempf]

the best!

[@landmimes]

ah using your cc as your chat makes it impossible for me to export ur transcript and generate chapters - adhd

[@fabioc9142]

Man this is just a programming language with all of the downsides of asm

[@khayalhajiyev8779]

Can you code in C++?

[@uniers]

It is very basic code examples. What about concurrency, coroutines and allocators programming in asm?

[@neo1647]

ненужная хрень. тем не менее на ассемблере возможно всё. си на нем написан

[@uniers]

@@neo1647 с чего это вы взяли что asm это ненужная }{peнь ?

[@neo1647]

@ Це с плюсом или Це с диезом - ненужная хрень. asm рулит

[@uniers]

@ А я вас не так понял, приношу свои извинения, пардон!

[@hotdrogon9350]

Make Tutorial on NASM

[@DART2WADER]

You should try writing something in assembler for E2K. Everything is different there)))

[@johnnymcaffrey6178]

like for using void, уважаем

[@cuzsleepisthecousinofdeath]

11:55 does redbean do that?

[@carneirouece]

Avoid vocal fry. You are not Kim Kardashian

[@dani5318]

YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FINALLY ASM

[@sabbaseleftheriadis5601]

forget watches, look up the sun and stars 🤣 no sir

[@landmimes]

how did i get here? i can't even code

[@WIASUOM]

I think you come from orangeTube. Based on your profile photo (10/10 profile btw)

[@sempiternal_futility]

nice pfp

[@Cdaprod]

1:24 rofl 😂

[@pagenotfound_code_404]

Can anyone explain why doesn't he get donations from twitch subs? Where does the money go????

[@ErikBackman242]

I can't be the only one screaming "youre not decreasing rcx" into a vod. Right? .. riiight?

[@black_crest]

There's always one

[@ВоваВовкинс-ъ7м]

Да ну его нафиг😂

[@ATAG-yn5pd]

Forget C and Assembly, LuaJIT is All You Need xD (ok, don't forget C, as long as you need your own libraries)

[@duckydude20]

guys finally its happening...