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[@oospagheti]

wait, are u telling me that I don't need to buy a camera every 8months? how dare you?

[@Chris-ey7zy]

But I like buying every 8 months

[@ZachMayfield]

no you still have to, sorry

[@LiveMyJourneyTom]

You have to buy a camera. Just not necessarily a new one :P

[@nickcr3919]

You don’t need to buy a new camera even in 8 years,or even in 18 years.Nobody needs.

[@conned]

😂

[@jimofhughes]

Damn I haven't seen a good sneeze transition in years, that's a forgotten art, thanks for bringing it back into the spotlight.

[@ZachMayfield]

a lot of folks just rush through their script, I take time to dedicate sneezes into most of my films

[@DePrimal]

Where's that sneeze transition?

[@vijaynaik9800]

​@@DePrimal4:48

[@JeffCreates]

I saw a video the other day where they said that as a professional photographer and video maker, they have no intention of "upgrading" until their current camera catches fire. That's pretty accurate. The amount of people who buy a camera on the first day of release and never bother to learn it just amazes me. Just got myself a 7 year old camera and it's great! Does everything I need and more. We should all buy old stuff.

[@rel892]

Better to buy iphone 14 than 7 years old camera.

[@Willabsolutkeinalias]

True. I bought a A7RII a few weeks ago, i absolutely love it.

[@SuperWallyburger]

Still using my A6300 since 4K if way good enough for most of my works and hard to edit with material above 4K

[@ovrxpsd]

​@@rel892LMAOO yeah an iphone is definitely better.

[@kitten-whisperer]

As someone who loves things especially new things, the idea of just upgrading cameras ever 2 years is ridiculous

[@sneakingelephant]

I mainly use an A7C and came across a used and scratched A7S for $200. I bought it for my cousin who wanted to get into photography and he ended up not wanting it. It became my secondary camera and I was surprised by how amazing its low light performance is for such an old body. The S2 is apparently better in that regard but for manual focus video purposes it was such a great purchase imo. People definitely sleep on older bodies due to all the marketing that happens around each product release

[@Supercon57]

The a7sii also has dual native iso In slog3 its 1600/10000 There is a bug though, you have to bump the iso 1/3 over 10000 and then bring it back down to 10000 and you'll notice the noise clean up drastically

[@SimeonKolev]

But is that second gain or just another level of noise reduction?

[@ZachMayfield]

woah that's sick, wish I knew that before making this haha

[@Supercon57]

@@SimeonKolev second gain, Sony alpha cameras have always had a second gain Just like how Sony never officially said the A7sIII has a dual native but people keep saying it does A7s has dual native 3200/8000, same bug though where you have to bump it up to 10000 to force it to the second gain and then drop it back down to 8000 to clean it up I tested the A7s, A7sii, a7rii, a6400, a6500 All exhibit the same behavior as the A7sIII which unofficially has "dual native" Every picture profile has a different switching point as the lower base iso is different The way you can see this is by attaching an external monitor, enabling false color, stopping way down to see the deep blacks, and watching the grain closely as you slowly bump up iso You'll notice a turning point where the noise drastically clears up implying a low/high gain Unfortunately this information was never really made widespread so people would shoot low light footage at a higher low gain ISO with tons of noise and then talk trash about the cameras when all they had to do was bump it up to the high gain

[@reboot2494]

Thank you ,can you please help me to understand brother..how to bump the iso 1/3 .i didn't get

[@Richrufio]

When you say bump the ISO 1/3 Over 10,000 and bring it back down is that just going to the ISO above it and then bringing it back down?

[@raw_pc]

A7III is the best bang for the buck currently.

[@msculac]

Yessir

[@MaksimBarbulovic]

Yessir

[@tylerbreazeale9964]

I just came to say your thumbnail gave me anxiety

[@MCab]

Damn man, you are so good at creating a genuinely interesting conversation that I forgot I was researching camera stuff until half of the video 😂

[@LanzaroteShowcase]

Still rocking the a7sii here since 2016, I've recorded C0001 to C99999 then D0001 to D99999, currently in the early Es so at over 20,000 video clips. 5 batteries, 4 lenses. Paid for itself many times over. Most important thing is to know how to get the best out of it. Slog2 with a +1.7 ETTR works well.

[@knowwork9]

Wondering how much shutter it does i heard this the higher shutter can make the cam working not very well idk if this is real or not

[@beccawillow]

rock on!

[@nobody-yl4rs]

I bought the a7s2 in 2016 and I've been rotten because I don't know the camera theory until now, but these days I've been taking it out again with the theory study and using it with the 28-70 bundle lens. As you mentioned, I've been looking at several machines recently with the idea of buying new equipment with the leaps and bounds of camera technology. Then I saw your channel and I was able to save a huge amount of money. When you come to Korea, I would like to treat you to a meal. Seriously!

[@JpBoudreaux]

I’ll always remember the Film Riot video(s) about this camera. It was definitely my dream camera at the time.

[@ZachMayfield]

Kinda makes me wanna revisit the OG a7s

[@KABOBkabob]

@@ZachMayfield It's nearly identical other than the lack of native 4k. I had both. Though, aesthetically, the original a7s is a much better looking camera. It's got a gloss finish and looks a bit more old school than the more ergonomic but ultimately uglier successors. But yeah more or less the same camera.

[@ItsDrewsif]

As a Sony A1 owner… yeah. It’s a little painful. Actually to the point I think I may be switching full time to that sweet sweet FUJI JUICE. Grabbed an XH2S and it’s disgusting how nice that camera is.

[@ItsDrewsif]

Also, thank you very much for the absolute anxiety attack that is the thumbnail for this video

[@Chris-ey7zy]

Yeah go buy apsc with limited lenses

[@ZachMayfield]

let's ban together in the land of juice

[@jameshandley7197]

you gota A1 its over kill dog water trade it in unless you pro sports guy

[@Chris-ey7zy]

@@jameshandley7197 who buys an A1? If you are going that high end then it’s usually for some company you work for. Let them buy it.

[@Gordymax]

Recently got a bmpcc6k with the sigma 18-35. I had already been using the Sony a6000 with the kit-lens and some vintage lenses for both video and photography. I decided to try the sigma 18-35 on the Sony and honestly except for the fact that it only shoots 1080p the image quality I was getting was incredible. I still find myself levitating towards the Sony more for video even now that I have a blackmagic.

[@arenz4w387]

I love what this guy is saying about great contents come from the creators’s creative ❤️. I remember how I used a Canon 80D in most of the Music Video productions that we did and produced great results that made an impact to the lives of many people back in the heights of pandemic period. Good gears are great. But it’s not the only thing in content creation. ❤

[@GastonShutters]

Great video pal. I think the reason why people are getting latest Sony cameras is mainly autofocus. Especially beginner Creators that shoot auto. I think everything else about older camera is fine but I remember my own struggles with erratic AF ruining my videos.

[@PokeFangOfficial]

I’ve been shooting with 2 ZV-e10 bodies since it came out. No complaints other than the crop sensor requiring more lighting. I prefer to shoot as ambient as possible but I’ve restored to using some COB lights.

[@TrueKyanite]

The thumbnail makes me ache

[@badger-productions]

Great video dude! The A7siii hype was well justified, BUT a few years in, I’m a disgruntled Sony user ( one of MANY) what are they thinking with just forgetting about us loyal Sony users, with a lack of updates and support is just disgusting!

[@spdcrzy]

There's new firmware for it now! And holy shit it's awesome.

[@lwadjproductions4756]

@@spdcrzyReally? What have they done?🙌

[@spdcrzy]

@@lwadjproductions4756 exactly what he talked about: focus breathing compensation and DCI 4K. Also TRUE 24p recording (not just 23.98).

[@mrjohnbaseley]

I REALLY appreciate people like you who say older gear is more than enough for most cases. +1 Sub

[@calenkennett]

I have all those cameras. I really like the flip up screen from the a7sii. The flip out screen on the a7siii and zv-e1 are really hard to actually use for touch to focus when shooting handheld.

[@NITOENT1]

I've had the a7sii for years now and have used it for both videography and stills... It's a beast!! The only thing I can say is that the battery life sucks balls but other than that - it's still killing it to this day. Epic purchase

[@ChrisA2617]

Honestly, if it wasn't for the awful battery life (honourable mention would have to be the LCD) , I would probably still been using it as one of my main cams. It still makes an appearance as a B-cam and I'm still always impressed with the quality of the footage.

[@don_at_large]

@@ChrisA2617 I use an external power bank mounted on a cage. Much better than internal battery.

[@ChrisA2617]

@@don_at_large Exactly. I use a battery grip plus an external battery because unlike USB-C power delivery, the micro USB cannot keep the battery fully charged... it will eventually be drained. So having 2 internal batteries is actually much better if you plan on having the camera running for extended periods.

[@ramblr5900]

Hi, I been offer to buy a7sii for 575 with 70-210 lens. Is this camera really good for Astro / night time photography? Also is $575 still over priced?

[@NITOENT1]

@@ramblr5900 it depends what country you're in! If that was here in Australia, that would be a steal!

[@josephnevin]

I just bought a 2017 released nikon d7500 last year and I'm thrilled every time I take it out on the field to photograph birds and wildlife.

[@JaymesMedia]

They shot an entire full length feature film “The Possession of Hannah Grace” on this camera.

[@prophet_alers]

i have the zve10 is the fx30 a good upgrade or should i go with the fx3 but with that i also would need a fule frame lens. i shoot for fun money is not a big issue but i dont wana waste money either. I shoot alot at the gym and content outside/night also trying to get into it more. im justs stuck between the fx30 or fx3 big price diffrence. i guess im just scared i pau 4k for the fx3 and they drop the fx3 2.0 lol as soon as i get it

[@sambrumley_productions]

If I had $2200 just for a brand new camera, I'd probably go for the Panasonic S5 II X (or maybe even save $200 with the less expensive S5 II but at the same time forgo the 4K all-intra, the 5.7K ProRes, and the raw over HDMI). If we're talking about older cameras though, the original S5 is going for about half the price (and I'm honestly upset about the depreciation, considering I bought one back in June 2021, but there's an opportunity for a great camera as long as you can survive with the 30-minute limit in 10-bit 4K modes and without fast and responsive AF)

[@JoeCnNd]

2:03 good to see those plates got him dates.

[@inseCT320i]

Amazing dynamic range,almost at 98% like Pentax K1 the king,but 1 major drawback for me is that this camera like Nikon and Sony and Fuji does not have anti-dust mechanism,my Canon EOS R has one of this,and in 3 years i have never cleaned the sensor,this is amazing feature.

[@versuspixels]

I just bought one a month ago for $675 with a Sony vertical grip and 3 batteries. 12k on the shutter. Insane.

[@SimeonKolev]

There is a trick to get more quality in SLOG with those old Sony cameras - start the video out of SLOG and go in SLOG while shooting ;). There is a bug which makes the internal recording flatter than it should be. I saw this on Gerald Undone's channel. Is that on purpose or a bug... this is for the conspiracy guys to solve. The bug affects only the internal recording, it is much better when you record via HDMI.

[@Supercon57]

I dont recommend doing this Gerald undone is actually mistaken on this The internal isnt flatter than it should be, the external is more contrasty than it should be But this happens on any camera recording externally Ive tested it on various cameras, a7s, a7sii, c200, BGH-1 The issue isnt the internal, its the external I plan on reaching out to Gerald undone to do a follow up so he can warn people with his bigger platform

[@SimeonKolev]

@@Supercon57 аctually if you compare FS5 and A7s(mark 1) you will see the SLOG2 as it is supposed to look and the washed out version in the A7s internal recording. The problem started there with the first ILCE camera that was SLOG capable. Gerald was right ;). Same with the latest models. If you do the trick SLOG3 is much more gradable in 8 bit than if you shoot it as it is internally. I have to check if the 7M4 is the same, the last cameras I saw doing this was the 7RM3 and 7M3. Compare the SLOG out of the Cinema cameras to the one in the ILCE cameras. Personally me - I think Sony wants us to buy video cameras and they never wanted to make hybrids but the market forced them so they tried to cripple them in many ways.

[@Supercon57]

@@SimeonKolev very interesting conspiracy but I have to disagree here First, the A7si slog2 wasn't "washed out" compared to the FS7 Slog2 Second, if this were the case, then why did Atomos release a firmware update adding the legalize feature to the Ninja V? The feature that Gerald himself boasted about asking for A feature that addresses a widespread issue of external recorders having footage with increased contrast and boosted saturation "breaking log" The issue wasnt Sony crippling 8 bit cameras by making slog too "washed out", that's log The issue was external recorders not taking into account external log recordings needing to be interpreted as a full data signal and not limited

[@Supercon57]

@@SimeonKolevlink to Gerald's video explaining the external recorder issue. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYS9ZYp9qLB_d7s

[@SimeonKolev]

@@Supercon57 the more contrast in external LOG was the same not only on the Ninja but also on any HDMI display. It was coming from the camera like this. I have to find the old video I saw on youtube comparing the FS5 internal SLOG2 with A7s internal and external one. Plus my experience with the 7M3, 7RM2, 7RM3 is that when I shoot both flatter and less flat SLOG2 internally the more contrast version grades way better with the standard LUT from Sony. Now I see that the SLOG3 from the 7M4 comes with more contrast than the one from the 7M3 shot in the normal way. More flatness is not always better. I have to find some time to play with this issue more and make a simple test to show the difference.

[@mondotv4216]

I think 8 bit is a bit of a deal breaker for me. It works until it doesn't. For example the client wants that daffodil to be the exact same yellow as their logo. Or that beautiful sunset you shot has banding through it.

[@lucasliaskos]

Just got this video suggested by KZbin. Awesome approach and thoughts. I also found myself buying older cameras and gear in general as well since they provide much better value for their used prices nowadays. Subbed!

[@DannySchneible]

My Sony use was the A7Sii, and I did love it! Fortunately it was a camera that my employer owned. The low light and everything else you mentioned were the main reasons I bought it. However, the battery life was so bad, especially when I took to the Holy Land for a week - I had about 5 extra batteries, and was still recharging them throughout the day - so annoying. But, when I started working for myself, I was completely sold on Sony's video quality and platform - so no I own the A7C which has been fantastic - the only thing I don't like about it, is that it films 60 fps in 1080 - which still looks good, but I wish it was 4K. Great vid BTW!

[@mubasakz7651]

I'm interested in purchasing a camera that can excel in both still photography and video recording. I'm considering the Sony a7II, and its price, when converted from INR, amounts to $900. What would you recommend for my needs?

[@ThomasDeWeerdt]

Great video, I just bought one second hand (with Ronin SC) for 550€. What a great camera. I don't know why people would complain about recording limits: with MP4 recording it is always wise to stop recording from time to time to prevent damaged files. I advice this to my students in the first camera lesson.

[@ChanJ1129]

Thank you so much making this video!!!😭😭😭 I am the one who is still using a7sII in 2023 for my work! Lots of friends asked me why do I still choose a outdated camera to work, the focusing and the battery… yer it did bother me a bit but who cares? I can still make great videos using this old camera, the ability in low light can still beat most of the cameras in 2023!!

[@alexadhs6296]

Hey, quick tip for you as an a7sii user. The 30 Minute recording limit is because of overheating and low performance batteries. What i do, i use an dummy-batterie with and 27000MhA Powerbank and i can literally record until my card is full for hours upon hours. There is no heat whatsoever. The Heat only comes from the batterie

[@KABOBkabob]

I would recommend against the dummy batteries for two reasons. 1) they can fry your camera because they supply marginally too much voltage. My HDMI doesn't work on one of my bodies and the mic doesn't work on the other because of that thing. 2) if you're in a rush you can make my mistake which was cutting my power supply without realizing I was still recording. at least if the camera battery dies in an a7s it knows to save your file. if you cut power to a dummy battery you will lose your recording. I lost 20min of footage this way.

[@Flburr99]

Still using the A7 classic. It works great. Battery life sucks so I have 6 but it is what it is. Keeping an eye out for an A7r II one of these days.

[@corzlyte]

I have an A7S and for battery life I just have a dummy battery hooked up to a Sony vx2000 battery, I get like 2 hours or battery life it’s so worth it

[@zacharydelorenzo]

"Thumbnail anxiety isn't real, it can't hurt you" This:

[@edoardodepiccoli3004]

7:11 roblox slowed oof sound had me dying

[@australianboy]

I’m still on the A7ii and it’s not too bad. It would be great to upgrade, but it’s pretty decent.

[@anthonyeugene4258]

I saw that! On the Cumberland river walking bridge.

[@frankfeng2701]

For photo, A9 is the best value flagship to buy.

[@frammenzio]

Mine just died recently :"( It started by some buttons malfunction and now it doesnt even turn on. But after 6 years of heavy usage and professional work, it had a great life! I was always hearing bad comments about the colours, but I quickly realized it was all bs because even in the professional world there are still people that don't know how to shot and edit log footage, which btw is incredibly flexible for being just 8 bit! But for me the 4k 30p limit was a huge bummer even in 2017. You sometimes want/need that slowmotion, and the 1080p is not only lower resolution, somehow also the colors are duller in 1080p with that camera.

[@LucasBlaney]

The missed focus at 3:56 😂 classic a7sii

[@TrevorVogtMusic]

That thumbnail should win for how much anxiety it can give 😅 awesome video as always broski

[@ZachMayfield]

I'm super into anxiety lately, would not recommend tho

[@RedDirtMotion]

I shot a feature length action documentary with a few of these. I needed something I could afford to buy multiple of in case I broke one or two. Luckily this was in 2022 when people these were all over FB marketplace for $900-$1000, so when I inevitably broke one (ironically a dummy battery fried it, not even damage) I was able to buy one the same day in a walmart parking lot for $1k, in the middle of nowhere, North Carolina, while riding in someone else's car. I still have them and use them as my main cameras. As much as I'd love an Fx3 and could go buy one rn I just don't shoot enough to justify it.

[@nickjames5602]

Hi Zac, thanks very much for sharing this. I sold my Sony A7s2 years ago, but didn't get around yet to replacing it with an A7s3. As it's been 3 years since the A7s3, Sony should soon soon be releasing the A7s4. Hopefully that will bring down the A7s3 price.

[@h-dawg969]

Does the a7sii have the imu data so I can drag footage into gyroflow? I have the a7iii which is great for photo but not so much for video as it’s 8 bit and can’t stabilise in gyroflow. I want an additional e mount cam to focus more on video. This sounds like it could be an option. Sorry if you explain this in the vid as I’m only 4 minutes in.

[@JJARCHIE]

it does not unfortunately , only newer one does , like the zve10 and zve1/fx3/a7s3

[@owlmostdead9492]

9:40 you have to flash the firmware with "open memories" it's a hack and increases the recording limit to 13 hours and give some other settings.

[@ecellis9651]

For beginners video I highly recommend this A7sii. I've been learning since I picked mine up a year well under 1k cost. The quality of video and features don't limit me. My biggest beef is I bought it for hybrid shooting and I'm not impressed with the AF at all for photography.

[@thecameraguys5381]

Bought an A7S II last month for £499, ended up returning it. The colours were just too muddy, too much colour noise and matching it up to my SIII was annoying, it was adding at least 20 mins to each project to try and grade to match my SIII. 20 mins per day adds up fast. Also the AF... you don't realise how bad it actually is until you go back to it. It's not usable. I would only be using the SII as a b-cam and I quite often use AF on my b-cams. I came from A6500's. If you rely on it for a paid shoot, it will fail you and for me the cost of reliable AF is worth it to upgrade to a newer camera. The SIII just wasn't worth it even at £499 and I'm going to be picking up another 10-bit soon.

[@ihaveterriblememes406]

Great video! Now I'm intrigued. I was considering the canon r50 as my first camera. I want to use it for filmmaking and photography and i don't feel like I'll be buying a ton of lenses for it. Would you say this camera could fill that role? Also, if i managed to snag an a7iii for a similar price, would that be worth it over this one? Thanks

[@rohedron]

sony users are these days rightly grumbling about terrible aftercare (no firmware updates) but with e-mount you get a mind blowing array of lenses...

[@tptrsn]

Dude, excellent video! Very entertaining and information dense.

[@RubiKeys]

notice how the helios is probabl the most afforable vintage with great cinematic look lense out there, in almost every camera no matters the brand or sensor size is a sure bid to have fun out there, got mine years ago, to my gh5, actually using it in a6400 and old eso M. The value of that lense is amazing

[@MOTOBLADE]

I just picked up the A7RII. First mirrorless camera and it’s a beast. Absolutely amazing.

[@joostverpoort]

I bought the A7Sii a month ago for 700,- it is having 1200 on shutter count and it looks like new! I also got A7Rii which is for stills unbelievable. To safe battery life I switched on airplane mode as well as I only use vintage glass (manual), that is saving a lot!

[@marinrealestatephotography]

Very nice video. The footage you shot looks pretty darn good. I have a couple of Sony aps-c cameras (a6500, a6000) and - while it might just be me - I always had a real hard time getting good colors out of the 8-bit footage. As you mentioned, nailing exposure is critical (as is nailing white balance). I am interested to know how the 1080p at 60fps is in the a7 II. It is pretty bad on my a6500, but maybe the 12MP sensor of the a7S II is better???

[@richardcousinsmedia3814]

8 bit is hard to grade in general. 10 bit is a lot more forgiving and you can stretch it out a bit more without it breaking

[@fatlipmedia9559]

How does the A7Sii stack up against the A7iii? Seems like very similar features aside from the megapixel count and low light performance?

[@StevensCameraCorner]

How does this compare to a Sony zve10? I kind of do want a flip out screen to be honest, but my Canon M50 isn’t cutting it.

[@Walinteenpro]

I have used 2 Sony a7s II, loved the camera but it had Flex issues, common in most Sony Cameras

[@sunnyschramm9650]

For PHOTOS of course you should and can buy the A7III! 🙂 It saves you 1400-1200€ from buying the A7IV so you can get one or two great lenses with this money without loosing a lot in features and tech from the IV in aspects of photography. Even more since we have lossless "Super Resolution" in Lightroom - so the 24MP is no problem at all anymore 🙂 IF you are a videoguy: go for the A7IV for the 60fps and other new videofeatures 👍

[@MattXplorz]

notice how when you truned the camera t =o show the lady she was out of focus? this is the BIGGEST problem with the a7sii

[@funandfactswithjoi]

The sneeze was way too flawless. Teach me guru.

[@MarcelHoskins]

Great video!! I'm photography based only so I don't upgrade often. I stick with my Nikon D3, D610 & Z5

[@BleepingWorld]

which Mic are you using for this video?

[@TheVisionMakerPodcast]

when he mentioned that 30 record limit SKRRRRRRRRRRRRR FOH almost got me

[@NikoWax]

Nice one! It's Nikos from Ftelos...

[@Advancedendo]

So for a dental photgraphy would you recomend a7 mark I?

[@artobzor]

Thanks What about Sony A7s1 ? Why is it not enough ? (Except "no 4k in body) Now about this camera Don't you have a bit blurry focus assistant (that zoom image) ? Do you feel minimal ISO 1600 for shooting in s-log is limiting ? Especially on the street ? And more important . Can you dive in your experience of grading 8 bit s-log after a habbit for 10 bit s-log ? And don't you feel nervous about sometimes 8 bit can not depict gradient correctly Some mist.. or fog... Or just a sky... Sometimes got a borders with visable edge ..

[@TeazyEdits]

Ok so let me give ya'll a little insight from my perspective. A little bit about me: I am 24 Years old and started with my sony a6300 in 2018. I loved the a6300 because it has alot of benefits, fast AF for example! It also has a similar colorrange like the a7sii. I got my A7sii back in 2021 for just 1000$, with a gimbal, a batterygrip and alot of other stuff I reselled so I got the camera for about 700$ in the end. So I am using these Cameras together to get my ultimate low budget Video/Photography setup. I have several lensen on them because lenses are a little more important to me then having a massive big Camera. I have used both Cameras for shooting Musicvideos, Weddings, Carporns, Portraits. I can really recomment using these cameras especially for the prices. So If you maybe have any further questions i would love to help any of you out! Thanks for the Video, it just showed me what I have and it counters my craving buying a much more expensive Camera. To my Luck the place I will be working will also hand me a Sony a7III which is also pretty neat. What I am looking for in the future is to invest in Lighting equipment and maybe a Camera that can shoot 4K in 120FPS or at least 60FPS, and also 10bit is a huge deal if you want to get more professional. But for beginners either the A7sii or the a6300 are my personal recommendations because you wont find better Cameras to get into Foto/Videography. You, zach just earned yourself a sub, really dig your Videostyle! Beste regards, Jonas

[@s.lindland]

my thoughts exactly, i bought this as my first digital full frame camera in December for 800$

[@melodymatters]

Interesting. I lucked out being able to nab a well-used, but refurbed A7S II for about $1300 a few year back, along with a like new, refurbed Sony 18-70 zoom kit lens for about $140, and this was intended to be used for concert photography/footage (almost all local or touring bands in small clubs with usually very funky/dim lighting and extremely high sound volumes). Although many would consider this a compact full-frame system, I was moving up from the original Canon EOS M, but I was impressed enough when I had rented an A7S II for testing years before to keep an eye out for a good A7S II deal after the A7S III came on the market. I've been pretty pleased since (and it also comes with a great preamp so with a decent enough mic -- and a good audio editor -- the concert audio is usually great. I've been using a Tascam TM-2X, which delivers dry, flat audio with no clipping, regardless of sound levels, but you will need to edit it bring out the for bass and such). Also AI-based tools like Topaz has let me get away with shooting at shutter speeds and ISOs in darkened venues that would normally create super noisy results even for the A7S series, never mind more normal cameras, and those 12 megapixels AI upscale/enhance rather nicely as well. And it's super rugged (as demo's by some sloppy moshers from time to time). So if you're into concert or low light photography/video, and you can get one for around $700-$800 these days, there well.....

[@IanHobday]

It's very easy to remove the 30min record limit on older Sony cameras. Lots of information about this online.

[@danieldougan269]

The big strike against the a7S II for me is the lack of phase-detect autofocus. I just don't enjoy using cameras that can't autofocus reliably. 10-bit video is nice but not a requirement. And I know manual focus is the "right" way to do it in video, but it's just so much nicer not having to worry about it. I recently sold my Lumix G85 purely because it couldn't autofocus worth a damn.

[@bapmedia2103]

I know big creators that still use their a7sii. I honestly love older gear when I peep it. Especially when they still make better content then most people with it

[@HeeGeonKang]

I have been using A7S2 since 2016, but I still think it's an absolute video beast. But one thing I'm sad about is I can't color grade well. So I usually set as cine4 for picture profile and it kinda works pretty good. If this camera had way better auto focus, I might kept using it but because of af, I rent A7S3 or FX3 at professional works. A7S2 is still good enough when I shoot for hobby THX for the video

[@Rowan611]

What if you don’t shoot video? Currently have an A73 that I use vintage lenses on. I’d like to get a second body, was thinking an A72 or OG A7

[@FRDFX]

Realtalk. Well done! Greets from Germany✌️

[@crissmuller_]

I’m about to buy this camera or the zv-e10. Any advice? 🙏

[@holsteincowboy]

You forgot about the fx6 - Great video camera

[@JonniArmani]

I just picked up the A7Riii this month forget the new cameras

[@proguyxx]

I getting my first ever camera but its hard for me to make desicion between A6400 or A7SII

[@heynow2880]

What is funny is that the A7SII footage looks better than the A7SIII footage. Your making me want to get a A7SII

[@rmgibbs1861]

I wish that Sony do Firmware updates on the “not so old” models. Mine Sony A7r III.

[@amybella]

What would you say about the A7RII would that be better in rolling shutter and terms of quality and AF. Just bought it, would like you to share your thoughts.

[@RealTechGeek]

I've owned the A7RII since 2020 ask me any questions

[@alexbeltrao2535]

nice video! It's very nice to see someone highlighting "cheap" products insted SUPER ULTRA NEWER MDF THINGS

[@NoahBuehler]

Shame on Sony for not allowing DCI recording till now, my Fuji XT-3 had DCI 60fps almost five years ago!

[@gnif]

I would counter this with the A7Rii, which has been hacked to remove the 30m recording limit, better low light capability, a 42MP sensor, and is about the same price on the used market.

[@JasAcevedo]

Man! At last KZbin made a worthy recommendation. Awesome channel. Subscribed👐

[@snasnusnaba3361]

I have the a7sii but I only see value in the video function. Those 12MP pics, especially if you like landscape photography is almost just like a screenshot of a 4k video... I want to do more photography instead of video again, and I do not want to manual focus, so I'll swap the camera for the a7iii pretty soon.

[@zavarykinvisuals]

Still shooting Feature films with Sony A7S2 and with ACES colorspace with Slog2 its a new life for the image

[@likebliss]

Wow you did a fantastic job matching the a7siii to the a7sii

[@ZachMayfield]

it honestly took quite a bit of time (probably because I had a vintage lens on the S3) but it help up well!

[@nniitchh]

Thanks, the A7 SII is sold out everywhere 😭

[@climber950]

I can’t even watch the video, the thumbnail gave me too much anxiety and flashbacks 😂😂😂

[@blackibex]

Well... but you also get a used a7s III in perfect condition for 1500 (as a 28-70mm lens kit). Maybe that's double the amount of a used a7s II, but also much more value.

[@myblacklab7]

Where can you get an A7S III in perfect condition for $1500?

[@Calcifer55]

I own this camera and you are right, the skills are inside the filmmaker, but the right camera could help sometimes. BTW with some tricks you could avoid the 30 minute limit.

[@ScarrCrow]

How, please elaborate

[@TNRVG]

They need to bring back their action camera line...

[@anderszimmerman2428]

its not often that I watch an informational video and feel entertained. music, editing, shots, humor. I'll give you a subscribe. One note, the side profile of shots from the A7siii while looking at the sii are a little off putting. that's something you see in like interview settings, or b-roll in like a medicine ad where someone is having a conversation about how happy they are that they are drugged up lol. In this situation we know you're talking to your camera, which feels weird because when you're looking at the lens it feels like you're talking to us and it's less dystopian. I understand the appeal of multiple shots being more visually engaging, so I'd recommend just looking at the other camera.

[@diesolit]

What website what that he mentioned, he’s said site mpd. But never dropped the link

[@eduugr]

Thanks for the video! I want a used Sony camera but the "cheap" ones are those that had been used for professionale video recording and probably they hve been expossed to extreme conditions, hours and hours of video recording, etc... I wonder how this may affect. I also know that some Canon 5D can be used for more than 200000 clicks and they still work perfectly... what do you think? Thanks! Cool channel !