Forgiveness is for you and not for them: it's nothing but a lie

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Tyler JTI

Tyler JTI

Күн бұрын

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@SenoraLuna-jd4lt
@SenoraLuna-jd4lt Жыл бұрын
Forgiving someone who hasn't asked for it, is like taking the whole responsibility for someone else's bad behavior and setting them free energetically, it is like paying the credit card debt of a financially irresponsible person
@SP-sk2cf
@SP-sk2cf 11 ай бұрын
Yep. Forgiveness is for the one who did wrong, but they have to ask for it humbly with a changed heart first. Thank you Tyler ❤
@deewoodz816
@deewoodz816 Жыл бұрын
Tyler you need your own Masterclass. You have given me the strength to walk away from one sided friendships when I was at my weakest. I have no idea how I found your channel but I thank god I did. Thank you.
@rubyjones9951
@rubyjones9951 Жыл бұрын
I agree. God won't forgive you unless you ask him for forgiveness. Why is it any different for people? If you've done me wrong I don't forgive you for anything unless you ask for my forgiveness. 100% Agree.
@donalddavis6689
@donalddavis6689 Жыл бұрын
AMEN!! I Agree 💯👍.
@yourstruly1984
@yourstruly1984 Жыл бұрын
How can you forgive someone who isn't apologetic, remorseful or at best, isn't even sorry ?
@charlesmiller7958
@charlesmiller7958 Жыл бұрын
Matthew 6:14 😇🙏
@rubyjones9951
@rubyjones9951 Жыл бұрын
Okay!? Right.
@AmaLoveGoddessTV
@AmaLoveGoddessTV 11 ай бұрын
Right. They don’t want your forgiveness
@Ross-v9t
@Ross-v9t 10 ай бұрын
Don't give useless scripture ​@@charlesmiller7958
@Ross-v9t
@Ross-v9t 9 ай бұрын
​@@charlesmiller7958 please don't do it your scripture doesn't mean any
@Ck-pj3vu
@Ck-pj3vu Жыл бұрын
Oh my because anytime I have ever forgiven someone it only benefits to people who hurt me. It allowed them to do the same things again.
@shaylanewlife
@shaylanewlife Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@splendidis7950
@splendidis7950 Жыл бұрын
Yes and they put you in a cycle because they know you have a good heart
@AmaLoveGoddessTV
@AmaLoveGoddessTV 11 ай бұрын
Because they don’t care
@PouchMaster
@PouchMaster 9 ай бұрын
I think people have the wrong idea of forgiveness. Forgiving someone doesn't mean you like them, or that they're your friend. It certainly doesn't mean you want to be around the one who hurt you. It means you're letting go of something someone did to you long ago. It doesn't deserve a spot in your head. If someone is currently continually hurting you, then you have a rival, and you shouldn't even be around that guy or girl. Forgiveness only applies to things that happened long ago
@ameerahrashada4515
@ameerahrashada4515 Жыл бұрын
This was a really good video on the lie that forgiveness is for you why should it be when I am not the one in the wrong Thank you for all you do
@ZariHisChosen
@ZariHisChosen 4 ай бұрын
So glad I’m not the only one saying this truth
@pattayaesl7128
@pattayaesl7128 Жыл бұрын
Hit it Tyler! You are the man. My real therapist. Thanks again and again
@kekelove6784
@kekelove6784 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Tyler,❤ That's why many of us can't find peace, out here forgiving ppl who we have not been offended. Blaming ourselves for nothing we've done. Another verse that's not clear. Is it for both the offended or the offender. Matthew 5:23-24 Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you, You must leave your gift there in front of God's altar. First you must go and find your brother. Tell him that you are sorry. Then you can both become friends with each other again. After that, you can return to the altar and give your gift to God.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 11 ай бұрын
That verse is on the jurisdiction of the offender( trangessor)
@peonyflowers23
@peonyflowers23 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying this. I have struggled with this fake message for a very long time. Glad to know I’m not wrong.
@kardrek2461
@kardrek2461 10 ай бұрын
YOU ARE RIGHT RAISED JEW I FEEL THE SAME WAY THX
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I would like to invite you to come look at my archives exposing the doctrine of forgiveness, which you shall enjoy them
@AwakenedOnes
@AwakenedOnes Жыл бұрын
Excellent information as always my brother thank you so much
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome my brother
@UnaversalTriumph1one
@UnaversalTriumph1one Ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💪
@pauobunyon9791
@pauobunyon9791 Жыл бұрын
Brother Tyler you are one of the realest You tubers out here I really enjoy and vibe with your vids. I think you should get Pastoral training too. You definitely got the calling in you
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
As of pastoral, not that. I do have a calling to teach people about true biblical forgiveness. Forgiveness from the Bible is not the way we have been told( the religion of Christianity way) is a huge fraud.
@jamesbreeden9016
@jamesbreeden9016 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Tyler! Your mastery of this deception is without peer. You are a wise Man with a truly good heart. Great video! Wishing you always happiness and joy.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@scorpioqueen7728
@scorpioqueen7728 Жыл бұрын
🗣️💥💥Preach Pastor 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🥺
@Dorothy-lk4ld
@Dorothy-lk4ld 5 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥!! Thank you Mr.Tyler!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊
@susanmine
@susanmine Жыл бұрын
So excited to see a new video from you.. God bless you
@obi-one-shinobistansolo3646
@obi-one-shinobistansolo3646 Жыл бұрын
PASTOR TY
@thepamperedgoddess3279
@thepamperedgoddess3279 Жыл бұрын
Whoo hoo a new video from one of my favorite KZbinrs! 🙌🏾
@splendidis7950
@splendidis7950 Жыл бұрын
Big Amen❤trueee,true, true,twisting the word
@KcLove-ut8zn
@KcLove-ut8zn Жыл бұрын
I agree with you tell it like it is
@officialbaddie9554
@officialbaddie9554 Жыл бұрын
I love all my new friends u always speak truth thank you TBMFT 😮😮😅😅
@Dalija1979
@Dalija1979 Жыл бұрын
Facts..... 💯.....!!!
@JimmyHat-k4t
@JimmyHat-k4t Ай бұрын
I really love this topic i had atrocious things done to me and family members making me the bad guy its insane
@hadiza1
@hadiza1 Жыл бұрын
Preach! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🔥
@Rose-j8r3f
@Rose-j8r3f 4 ай бұрын
Let Go let God. Seeya
@lyricz4224
@lyricz4224 Жыл бұрын
Do a video about people who always compete with you and why they do it. Even though you have no intention of competing with them and are just trying to be better than you were yesterday
@Maester0
@Maester0 10 ай бұрын
I believe forgiveness shouldn't be given for free. Just like trust, someone should earn the right to be forgiven. It's not about holding grudges, it's about if you do me wrong and show no remorse or compassion, then why should I forgive you?
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 10 ай бұрын
Yes you are right forgiveness shouldn't be for free. When researching the doctrine of forgiveness, the whole thing is a fraud: it's not biblical forgiveness. Since you spoke about grudges: i want to tell that word is not what we have been told when one does thier during research on that word, but it's another word nobody has not heard of before. This is how deep this scam of the doctrine of forgiveness goes.
@truthadvocate5048
@truthadvocate5048 4 ай бұрын
I think what too many people don't realize is that forgiveness is about allowing God to deal with the offender HIMSELF. I also think that the hurt feelings often associated with "unforgiveness" is a trick of Satan in avoiding dealing with the responsibility of those offensive actions. The hurt only means that healing hasn't taken place as of yet. In other words, just because a person or people may forgive doesn't mean those same offender(s) are off the hook. This is one of the things that's not being said in general about forgiveness in the first place. Peace. ✌️
@queenmosessoul
@queenmosessoul Жыл бұрын
I have said for “years” that I do NOT believe in forgiveness… I mean no one can actually provide evidence of “forgiveness”. What do “forgiveness” look like and why is “forgiveness” also hard to achieve according to people who believe in “forgiveness”. 99% of people will tell you they have a hard time forgiving, they working on forgiveness and forgiveness takes time. Anything this hard to achieve isn’t achievable. Forgiveness is “scam” and I don’t believe in it. And the people who have done me wrong are going to have to stand on their actions because I’ll NEVER “forgive” them. They are going to have to live with the fact they did me wrong forever. Because I don’t believe “forgiveness” is real….
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree!
@macadon041
@macadon041 Ай бұрын
I think the better word is acceptance instead of forgiveness...
@macadon041
@macadon041 Ай бұрын
Forgiveness typically means to continue to put up with there bad behavior that's why that word often times is misused and grossly misapplied .... That word is used to shame and get people back in line with the bs.. I think the right word isn't forgiveness it's acceptance because once you except people for who they are it's a release which allows you to move on with your life without the baggage
@ZariHisChosen
@ZariHisChosen 4 ай бұрын
You cut hem devils well I sure been on a tour to expose these devils and had to ask my self forgiveness for dealing and letting myself be played.
@israelfreenation3469
@israelfreenation3469 Жыл бұрын
Good teaching my brother. You always come with the truth no holds barred.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that. I have more in my archives named the forgiveness deception
@israelfreenation3469
@israelfreenation3469 Жыл бұрын
@@TylerJTI Thanks for letting me know. I'm going to watch them right now. Peace Tyler you are greatly appreciated.
@OfficialWordOnTheStreet
@OfficialWordOnTheStreet Жыл бұрын
preach!
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@dartsiwinellis1976
@dartsiwinellis1976 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather just walk away. They can ponder over why they think they should be forgiven.🤷🏽‍♀️
@VitaminB12-xz6kz
@VitaminB12-xz6kz Жыл бұрын
Hi Tyler It's unbelievable how much you have improved my life and probably even saved it in some ways I moved out and broke off contact completely With my so called family members Since then I've had a much better life, although I'm currently alone but that's okay. Sooner or later I'll find people who are positive and suit me thank you Tyler you have saved my life
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Peace and blessings to you
@jostynmontano9997
@jostynmontano9997 11 ай бұрын
Forgiveness is for yourself not for them bc they hurt u or something u in order to not let the anger take over or whatever emotion u feel u forgive them in your mind and heart doesn’t mean u have to be cool with the person or talk to them but u forgive bc everyone makes mistakes everyone is imperfect if they talk to u u can ignore them if u don’t wanna speak to them bc at the same time u have to respect yourself is like if u love a person but they bad for u u don’t stay with them u love them from a distance
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 11 ай бұрын
Your statement is much too weak because you're going by what you have been told by society, which is a biggest lie . Like I said, the forgiveness is for you can't work, unless it's under the jurisdiction of the transgressor or the person who did the wrong. One has a right to be angry and to let them take it over them so that it can be used as fuel or in the right way, which is resentment. Yes resentment is not what has been told in society l. When its out of the jurisdiction of anger, it's wrath. Eventhough in the etmology, it saids anger, but tells you to see wroth. Wroth is anger, here is difference anger in regards doing evil by your actions. Get it right about anger and wrath. Why do you think the bible said in the book of ephesians be ye angry but sin not. One sins out of wrath not anger. When its wrath, this is you want to do steal, kill, or destroy them in a wrong ful manner to the person who wronged you. Then you say, you forgive because they make mistakes: the problem with that based on the fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness is that they hate for the person who did the mistake to take responsibility for mistake or wrong doing, which is to make things right, make amends , and asking the person who they done wrong for forgiveness, which is taking responsibility for thier mistake or wrongdoing. By what you been told by your fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness, you expect for someone to forgive the person who did the mistake without taking responsibility for thier mistake or wrongdoing. That's not right. You say if they want to talk to you and ingore them contradicts the forgiveness thing.
@AMiah-jz8uu
@AMiah-jz8uu Жыл бұрын
Uncle Tyler back with a reality check
@Stevensonbenson
@Stevensonbenson Жыл бұрын
Yo tyler i hope you are good and keeping strong, no disrespect for not being on that message app on zoom or whatever it is called as my old phone broke a while ago but wish you the strongest blessings and good hopes soldier
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Hey Duncan. How are you? I have what's app now. If you have it: you can find me on there. Also I have a whole list of exposing this doctrine of forgiveness in my archives.
@Stevensonbenson
@Stevensonbenson Жыл бұрын
@@TylerJTI i tried replying but it just deleted my reply
@Ciara246
@Ciara246 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone been targeted by the narcissist and he’s mother??? Tyler I love your videos ❤️🇬🇧
@yourstruly1984
@yourstruly1984 Жыл бұрын
They- meaning those who think and believe like this, they say forgiveness is for you, in hopes that, you won't turn bitter, hateful and resentful from holding on to the transgression. They're saying forgiveness is for you, because, according to them, it'll free you from dwelling and holding on to the pain, hurt and disappointment associated with the transgression. I agree, that I don't want to be mad forever.... BUT.... forgiveness for me doesn't include reconciliation or reconnection either 🤷🏾‍♀️ I'm not going to walk around angry, mad & bitter over something I can't change.. it happened.. were done ✔ 😌 and I'm moving forward!!!
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 Жыл бұрын
It's usually bitter and weak people who say such things - and you have the right to be mad about the evil actions of someone who targets you not by mistake but intentionally! To be mad about that is nothing but crying out for justice!
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Yup, they say Forgiveness is for you because of that logic of what you spoke, which is a lie. Forgiveness is always for the other person or for them, which the folks who is following the doctirne of forgiveness can't see that due to indoctrination. Healing is for you if you have been done wrong, but not Forgiveness. Forgiveness isn't the same thing as healing.
@yourstruly1984
@yourstruly1984 Жыл бұрын
@@TylerJTI yes, I agree !!
@miketesla8550
@miketesla8550 Жыл бұрын
@@TylerJTI "Healing is for you if you have been done wrong, but not Forgiveness. Forgiveness isn't the same thing as healing." This.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Miketesla8550 it seems that you like to hide your face, and yes I did see your other comment . Since you are mad because I am exposing that fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness that in the religion of Christianity, which is not biblical Forgiveness, I am going to expose more of it. Don't worry, I have a future video coming to expose that lie from the doctrine of forgiveness which is states forgiveness and healing are the same. Forgiveness and healing are not the same. Stay mad because that false doctrine of forgiveness in the Christianity is going to continue to be exposed
@sarah.j.777
@sarah.j.777 Жыл бұрын
I always say that.. usually the biggest sinners are the biggest promoters of "you have to forgive.." and YES there is a difference between sins, that's another thing. don't tell me the sins of child pervs are the same as someone who lied on their taxes. also I don't forgive unrepentant scumbags, I let them live in the ugly they created all day every day. and I do just fine living in the purity of the truth 😊
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I wouldn't consider lying on one's taxes a "sin" anyway, lol... the government wastes all our tax money on evil purposes so it's actually an act of righteousness to lie on one's taxes.
@Donasands
@Donasands Жыл бұрын
hey Tyler i enjoy your video's. Thanks for taking the time to make them.I understand your reasons, but why does the bible say that we must love our enemies.,To bless them that curse us , etc. In order for me to love my enemies, I have to forgive them for the wrongs they have done to me. If I don't, I won't be able to love them. What are your thoughts?
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Good question! I have been extremely quiet that one because if I do reveal the truth, there are going to be a lot of mad Christians. I can do a video on it. I rather answer your question by email. If you like, you can email me at tjlwriter32@gmail.com: if you want my answer to your question
@anthonybrown7650
@anthonybrown7650 Жыл бұрын
One thing you can't do is allow yourself to be bitter towards that person who has done you wrong. You must understand what your fighting against, which is the devil and not flesh and blood. And yes just as Jesus does you must still love them
@donalddavis6689
@donalddavis6689 Жыл бұрын
I'll Forgive Them!! But!! After I Forgive Them, That Hurt Me In The Past, Or Yesterday!! Even Today!! I'll Call Them Out!! In A Nice Way Without Getting Mad 😡!! Pray 🙏 🙏 In My Mind For My Enemy And Keep It Moving.
@anthonybrown7650
@anthonybrown7650 Жыл бұрын
@@donalddavis6689 I understand but this is why we must seek the Lord to help us. And we must as believers have consecrated time daily until the Lord for at least a hour and that's me holding back
@jacobcannon1493
@jacobcannon1493 Жыл бұрын
I have never been completely comfortable with people that seem to imagine humans can forgive them like only God can. God may remember your sin no more but I may not be able to achieve that divine act. I have also seen people judge how well you are forgiving them and even judge my forgiveness as a failure. I will never be able to lift their shame, they need a savior. My calling is to glorify my maker as best I can and to love his people. I will fail at that every day and I need a savior to cover me. But don't confuse my struggles with your expectations of feeling guilt free.
@HarryHeath-pb6rv
@HarryHeath-pb6rv Жыл бұрын
They know the garbage they try to feed ya And I can't or won't go for that no can do woe woe woe
@jaymitaylor9937
@jaymitaylor9937 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone give advice today I’m supposed to be confronting an issue with my toxic sister over the phone . She’s been spreading lies on me and my mom and I have been quiet for so long , she also smokes and acts as if nothing ever happened when ever she sees us and smiles like she’s not doing anything wrong . She’s the type of person that never apologizes and always justifies her behavior . I’m talking about the situation with her today as a way to express myself and to say what I have to say .
@jeremyrodriguez5298
@jeremyrodriguez5298 Жыл бұрын
LEAVE IT TO GOD, AND MOVE ON.
@jaymitaylor9937
@jaymitaylor9937 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyrodriguez5298 I think it Is healthy to have conversations instead of just not communicating the way you feel everyone’s different .
@jeremyrodriguez5298
@jeremyrodriguez5298 Жыл бұрын
@@jaymitaylor9937 Conversations with God is the best.
@QuietlySoulful359
@QuietlySoulful359 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest that if you wish to express your feelings, do so BUT do this after you read Psalm 91 for spiritual protection. Be aware that In telling her how you feel, the reaction may not be what you hope for, so do it for your own healing. Actions speak louder than words, so it may be she says all the right things but look at the actions afterwards over a period of time, as it seems she needs a lot of therapy. Boundaries is not being unforgiving, it's protection of oneself. God Bless and good luck!
@jaymitaylor9937
@jaymitaylor9937 Жыл бұрын
@@QuietlySoulful359 thank you so much 💕💕after reading this I am reconsidering ! This makes so much sense to me !
@mirouu13
@mirouu13 Жыл бұрын
So the people who have done wrong to us, they need to suffer about forgiveness. Not us? Did i understate rightly?
@DailyPositiveAffirmatives
@DailyPositiveAffirmatives Жыл бұрын
🎉
@SenoraLuna-jd4lt
@SenoraLuna-jd4lt Жыл бұрын
OMG finally someone that thinks like me!
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@luxeriousnsociable
@luxeriousnsociable Жыл бұрын
Everytime I leave apologetic messages to fake friends (mostly asian), they dont even read it and say nothing. I guess they don't seem to care about it.
@luxeriousnsociable
@luxeriousnsociable Жыл бұрын
When im just talking and asking them questions, they just sit there or stand there and look at me and not asking me questions back and saying anything. I have to do all the calling, texting and planning and they just sit around at home not doing nothing all day pretending to be busy so they can easily avoid communications with me and ignore me. SO STUPID!!!!!! I wished my former stepbrother didn't read my journal and didn't tell everyone what I said in my journal back in high school. Dad and my former stepbrother reading my journal and telling everyone what I said in my journal is the reason why I dont talk to them and that's the reason why I moved away from them and I'm pretending to be busy to easily avoid communications with them and ignore them.
@richmuscle8316
@richmuscle8316 Жыл бұрын
Facts!!!!
@KrispyKrunchee
@KrispyKrunchee Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos and I'm a believer in and a follower of Christ...and I have to say that the interpretation you are responding to is new to me. Too many Christians follow what they've been told about the word and they do not think and pray on what they believe therefore opening themselves up to abuse. "Forgiveness is for you" means that the fruit of the action will benefit you and not the one being forgiven. Forgiveness is not exempting the perpetrators from the consequences of their actions, it affords you, the victim, the peace of mind and spirit, without defiling yourself by punishing another, that you deserve as per your position in the matter. Relinquishing the duty of delivering the rightful punishment to the wrong and justice to the innocent into Gods hands means that you reman in right standing with Him and your intercourse with Him remains uninterrupted. As someone who grew up in church, I have seen how many have been abused through the purposeful misinterpretation of scripture and advice that all those who seek God do so of their own responsibility and stop running to the pastors who push this nonsense. It must also be noted though, that in the case of God forgiving us, it is to our benefit too and not just His own peace, as in with us. And that I won't go into now because if you believe in the Sovereignty and Majesty of who God really is then you'll understand how everything He does ultimately is for our own beneficence. Edit: Also, no ones going to show you that they are suffering the consequences of hurting you so leaving it in Gods hands frees you from the headache of trying to keep score so you can move on with your Life. Forgiving is not about the other person, you don't deserve to be hurt and then to have to constantly relive that trauma and stress in your own head cuz it won't go away. When we forgive, God takes away the sharp edge of pain and helps the mind to be cleared so you can be free to live away from that pain.
@Mim39034
@Mim39034 8 ай бұрын
I agree with all that you said. This is exactly how I understand it. Forgiveness is for your sake and not the other. Still forgiving and letting go is no easy feat, you have to choose to do it consciously.
@jeremyrodriguez5298
@jeremyrodriguez5298 Жыл бұрын
ONLY GOD CAN HELP YOU FORGIVE YOUR ENEMIES. WHEN YOUR ENEMIES ATTACK YOU, IT'S BECAUSE THEIR MISERABLE AND THEIR MISERABLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE PEACE. WHEN YOU TALK WITH GOD, HE WILL GIVE YOU PEACE, WHEN PUT HIM 1ST. GOD BLESS YOU TYLER. DON'T LET YOUR ENEMIES GET TO YOU TYLER, THEY ARE ALREADY DESTROYED. ONLY GOD CAN HELP YOU, MAN CANNOT. I CAN'T EVEN HELP OR SAVE MYSELF. NONE OF US CAN HELP EACH OTHER, THE WAY GOD CAN. ONLY WEAK MINDED INDIVIDUALS, DON'T FORGIVE.
@bernetajohnson3296
@bernetajohnson3296 Жыл бұрын
Forgiveness is a choice. Not an obligation.
@pauobunyon9791
@pauobunyon9791 Жыл бұрын
​@@bernetajohnson3296I agree with you about forgiveness being a choice. Because peace is a choice too.
@charlesmiller7958
@charlesmiller7958 Жыл бұрын
According to Matthew 6:14 Happy New Year🎉
@charlesmiller7958
@charlesmiller7958 Жыл бұрын
​@@bernetajohnson3296Yes it is for true followers of the Lord Jesus Christ. Checkout Matthew 6:14 Happy New Year.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Charlesmiller if you was a true follower of the messiah. You would did like he said to in Luke 17:3 and Matthew 18:15-18, this is on the status of the person who was wronged and trespassed against. You dont nowhere where Jesus when someone trangressed or trespassed against he said then you forgive. He told you to rebuke, only until he repents then you stated luke 17:3, then in Matthew 18 chapter 15 -18 he told you 3 levels of binding the trespassor when he does not listen. Yes Jesus does state if he listens, thou hast gained your brother. Even in that scripture in Matthew 18:15-18 chapter if someone trespassed against you, Jesus didn't say forgive then right there From the false doctrine of forgiveness in the religion of Christianity based on what you and all other Christians have been told that this scripture in Matthew 6:12-14 that is on the status of the person who was wronged and is innocent, and this is your proof text that is the scripture when someone trepasses against you, then you forgive or have to forgive it: even if the trespassor doesn't make no amends, repents, restore, nor make things. This would extremely contradict what Jesus teachings of his regulation and command concerning forgiveness in Luke 17:3 and Matthew 18:15-18, Luke 15: 11-32 and also a bonus one stated in Matthew 18: 23-35. Jesus teaching was about trespassor repenting( asking for forgiveness), making amends ( asking for forgiveness), or making things right to the person who they wronged, which is biblical Forgiveness. Also in Matthew 21:12-13 verse, this is would have made Jesus a lie and contradicted his actions when he didn't forgive the moneychangers for making his house a den of their thieves, which was supposed to be a house of prayer.the moneychangers where doing some stealing and thievery right 🤔? What does the ten commandments say thou shall not steal? Jesus rebuked and casted them out nowhere he did not forgive them: why is that is because they didn't repent. By his actions with the moneychangers,The messiah was doing what he had commanded and regulated.
@DawnMaxwell-y4z
@DawnMaxwell-y4z Жыл бұрын
I don’t see the debate. Just as you said Tyler forgiveness is for them not you .
@tristan583
@tristan583 Жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t believe how many time the Christian God himself revenged and put people away for good in the holy scriptures , it means justice is a must and only after that forgiveness is naturally accepted but when you just let evil continue and claim you forgave him knowing you’re still hurt that’s not healthy
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Yup that's correct. There was a time God don't not forgive states in I Samuel 15th chapter
@Thecelestial1
@Thecelestial1 Жыл бұрын
Brother I don't understand it. You say right in the video Matthew 6 where Jesus teaches us to pray. If you aren't a Christian, ok but it literally tells Christians to forgive there and then a few verses later that If we forgive God will forgive us, but if we don't forgive others God will not forgive our sins. It cannot be more clear. It is this way because Christians don't or shouldn't operate the world does, that is to say in unforgiveness. It is hard to see and do the will of God when you are so bitter and upset about something that happened in the past. With love. Peace.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
In Matthew 6 chapter who was that speaking ? It's especially not what the Christian world has been lying about for years like what you just said all because of what has been told to you . Go reread it again.
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 Жыл бұрын
It's one thing forgiving genuine mistakes especially when the person is truly sorry - but we are talking her about narcissists, ie creatures from hell that take pleasure in destroying the innocent, the defenseless, the unaware! Why would we forgive, or pray for, the devil??? I hear this all the time from weak people: oh we must forgive them bla bla bla... and then they wonder why they continue to get destroyed by their abusers and why they continue to suffer from the actions of the narcissist even if they have been no contact for a long time. They then usually end up throwing all their money into the greedy throat of some "therapist" or other and wonder why after years of this fake "treatment" they are no better... It doesn't work like that, folks. You can only achieve balance and order if you introduce a force that is equal to the destructive force that did the destructive act. The Law of Ma'at is not a fairytale. Christianity is a destortion of reality, not reality - which explains why its followers are weaklings that fall for anything and everything and are often exploited by fake preachers and ministers. With this, when comparing how Christianity started - with Jesus preaching and having followers - and how modern day cults start, I don't see the slightest bit of difference...
@shaylanewlife
@shaylanewlife Жыл бұрын
That's why i stop going by that scripture.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
You mean Matthew 6: 12-16 , talking about the Lord's prayer🤔 that the Christian world like to run to and gaslight folks saying that you have to forgive.?
@Mike_Cosentino
@Mike_Cosentino Жыл бұрын
No such thing as forgiveness when there is no repentance from the other person. How in the world are you supposed to forgive and forget about something or someone when you NEED that experience to spot the next narcissist who comes along spewing their so-called Christian agenda? Bout time to review the book’s couple more times.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Preach it. Preach it.👍👍👍👍
@DreamWevr
@DreamWevr Жыл бұрын
Say you supposed to figure your parents other people who continuously treat you not right they say supposed to overlook thier actions but reality is that they don’t deserve because they have a agenda to hurt you but people say don’t want parents get older you have unforgiveness in your heart but don’t look at the fact why if they love you treat you way they do and how can you forgive someone you know has and no accident try to hurt you something nots right but they say god want you to forgive and of don’t you go to hell for your sins but if that case we should just let people mistreat not do or say a thing about it that’s not healthy for us to put up with thier ways I just think people make excuses for thier actions
@fj2201
@fj2201 Жыл бұрын
I have a bigger challenge... find where the Bible even defines forgiveness.
@NucleusWar144
@NucleusWar144 Жыл бұрын
Matthew 6:14-16 21st Century King James Version 14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. 16 “Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance. For they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward. Read the Bible and lean not on your own understanding! Salvation is God made! Religion is man made! Build a relationship with Jesus Christ seek Him on your own not through man.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
I have noticing been a good bit folks in the comment section immediately running to that scripture Matthew 6:14-16 as their so called proof texts to justify when someone trespass against you then you forgive even if transgressor dont make amends nor make things right, not restore, nor repent. One still have to forgive no matter what. Since all of you christians love running to it, I am going to do video concerning that scripture Matthew 6:12-14: to go another route so that more people can see that the doctrine of forgiveness in religion of Christianity is a fraud. .
@anthonybrown7650
@anthonybrown7650 Жыл бұрын
​@@TylerJTI Love you sir. But the truth is you haven't truly found Christ and His love that's why you can't see clearly. I pray you one day truly get to know Him
@Daniel71508
@Daniel71508 Жыл бұрын
Even god requires us to repent...before he forgives us 😂 until someone askes you don't
@BinkonBal4
@BinkonBal4 Жыл бұрын
🧀
@MrBillybathgate5
@MrBillybathgate5 Жыл бұрын
Tyler
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Hey how are you
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Hey how are you
@theartoflivingoutloud144
@theartoflivingoutloud144 9 ай бұрын
People use forgiveness for gaslighting folks.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, you are so right those people know they're not right for doing this.
@Anonymissus
@Anonymissus 6 ай бұрын
@@theartoflivingoutloud144 in some cases but not always (i mean in some cases people use forgiveness for gaslighting but not always, i edited my comment to be more specific about what i meant)
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 4 ай бұрын
Theartoflivingoutloud888 what scenes have people that follow the doctrine of forgiveness has not used forgiveness as a form of gaslightning that you speak
@MrBillybathgate5
@MrBillybathgate5 Жыл бұрын
Pastor p-diddy party , and reverend cash app don’t give a damn about no doctrine
@bartsimpson5772
@bartsimpson5772 Жыл бұрын
No sound
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
Retap the video again. You shall have sound
@AMiah-jz8uu
@AMiah-jz8uu Жыл бұрын
I think u misunderstanding forgiveness being for you. Forgiveness to rest your own soul. I dont say it from a christian POV tho
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
If you listened to the video I broke it down how forgiveness is for you can only work.The world and the Christian world is both against that way that it can work because it is biblical Forgiveness. Based on what we have been told forgiveness is for you, I said can't work and said why: the whole concept of what has been told to us is a big lie.
@idcbumyb
@idcbumyb Жыл бұрын
Sounds like whoever is pushing this sxam doesnt want forgiveness they just want to delude the people
@SenoraLuna-jd4lt
@SenoraLuna-jd4lt Жыл бұрын
Also, the christian god won't forgive you unless you repent, ask for forgiveness, and dedicate your entire life to him, or else that God won't forgive you, so they are expecting people to be better than their god? Aren't you supposed to follow god's example? 😂
@charlesmiller7958
@charlesmiller7958 Жыл бұрын
Matthew 6:14 We following God Almighty must forgive as the Lord has forgiven, and it clearly states that if you don't forgive as the Lord has forgiven. He will not forgive you of your sins. Happy New Year.🎉 Note: Also checkout Matthew 6:15. Be blessed Tyler😊
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
That scripture not a proof text of what I said when someone trespass against you: then you forgive or have to forgive it. Time after time again, its the same scripture that they like to run immediately, not reading closely of what Jesus stated. That scripture is easy to dissect by me.
@charlesmiller7958
@charlesmiller7958 Жыл бұрын
​@@TylerJTI Keeping you in prayer my brother😊
@thepamperedgoddess3279
@thepamperedgoddess3279 Жыл бұрын
Forgiveness is definitely for the transgressor lol that’s the only thing it’s for
@jeremyrodriguez5298
@jeremyrodriguez5298 Жыл бұрын
THE HOLY KJV BIBLE, IS THE BEST BOOK TO GET WISDOM FROM. TRUST GOD NOT MAN.
@christinavmills
@christinavmills Жыл бұрын
Yikes. The Bible is pretty clear about this as others have shared. Your energy says a lot about why we indeed need to forgive for our own inner peace, which you do not appear to have. ✌🏽🫶🏽
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI Жыл бұрын
You are a triggered and angry woman and chose to be indoctrinated because of what you have been told. You don't like your fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness in the religion to be challenged nor exposed. I am going to ask you where is the scripture when someone trepasses against you: you forgive it or have to forgive. You can't produce it. Where is it then? Only main so called text you got and that y'all like to run is to Matthew 6: 10-16, which has nothing to do with the status of the person who was done wrong. You can't read what Jesus said because you're busy going by what as others have shared, which is being indoctrinated of what has been told to you. It's clear you didn't listen to the whole video. Besides how I know you didn't listen to whole video, I did use Bible scriptures. Once again,you just said the Bible is pretty clear of what others have shared. That's your problem right there because you said ( others have shared): you're going by what you have been told and chose to be indoctrinated rather using critical thinking of what they have shared and have been telling you That statement of what you spoke tells me a lot you don't use critical thinking but chose to be indoctrinated.
@miketesla8550
@miketesla8550 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy being at "peace" with the devil. We're at war. And if you're not angry with the devil, you're just lukewarm and God will vomit you out of his mouth.
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