Forgotten Places, Cliff Structures Part 1, Nine Mile Canyon, Utah

[@ravingraven879]

Very interesting video. Thank you for the inventory of "poop". LOL! Happy Trails 🤠

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@ravingraven879 I know right.... After listening to the audio I felt like a 10 year old. Poop

[@fredrossman1189]

I was born and raised in that area. 1940 to 1957. I am 84 now and love seeing the videos you folk make of that aera. I still long to go back. Thanks for posting.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@fredrossman1189 WOW! The stories you must be able to tell. So much has been lost....stolen since you were there I bet. I am glad you were able to come along

[@rollinmckim4719]

The years have passed and I don't dare do such exploring any more........ Thanks for taking me with you..........

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

You are welcome! I am glad that you were able to enjoy it as well

[@markgibsons_SWpottery]

Newest Subscriber here! These places are what I live for! Thanks for taking the camera!

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks, it is fun to get out and the camera allows me to look at it years later and enjoy it all over again

[@markgibsons_SWpottery]

We look forward to the next one, and look forward to seeing all previous,.. @@thecowboyandtheaccountant753

[@joeyvelarde5562]

Amazed by the human curiosity a finding lost treasures for study to All-American society were the children can learn thank you your work is appreciated

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks, I am glad you enjoyed the video. I know I enjoyed exploring the cliffs

[@pljones9173]

Great video, can't wait for part two!

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks! And part three is on its way

[@dyannejohnson6184]

That first ground views are absolutely stunning

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

They were amazing and exciting to see revealed

[@lindabriggs5118]

Goodness, it's been way too long since I've seen Nine Mile Canyon. Back in the 1980's, I was privileged to work with Dr's Matheny & Matheny in Nine Mile. They were doing a survey of the canyon back then, as it hadn't been done since back in the early 1900's. I, along with my son and daughter, spent the entire summer camped out at the old stage coach stop. The last time I drove though the canyon, some teenagers burnt the place down by that time during the 1990's. It was a fun time back then. Thank you for showing this. It brought back some great memories from when I lived in the Carbon and Emery Counties. I graduated from CEU and was able to work also on the dig site where the Mammoth was found. I think that was in August of 1988. I'm 71 yrs old now and cherish my time living in the Carbon and Emery area. Yup, I'm an Alkali Angel. 😅 Again, thank you for showing this recording of a wonderful area. ❤

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks, the stories you must have to tell! I am excited to see what is still remaining but 30+ years ago to have been able to work with the researchers must have been fantastic. There is an extensive site, watch tower, pit house and defensive structures just east of the owl panel down the canyon. I explored that area recently. It was quite the experience. Have you ever seen it?

[@lindabriggs5118]

@thecowboyandtheaccountant753 I don't think I have seen it. I'd love to come back and see my old stomping grounds. I remember so much but can't believe how long ago it was. I miss my old ranch and the high desert. I'm 71yrs old now and it's hard to get around now days. I wish I was 20 years younger. 😆 But I could tell you about the big legal fight we had over that Mammoth. It's was crazy. Lol But CEU won!

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Age is less of a hindrance when the mind remains sharp. Keep watching and enjoy the adventures with me.... "CEU"? Which college is that?

[@lindabriggs5118]

@thecowboyandtheaccountant753 it's no longer CEU, or College of Eastern Utah. It's something like Southeastern State University at Price

[@iverdana]

you're a great drone operator!!!! amazing footage!!!!

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@iverdana thanks! I have a fpv drone that I use for flying through stuff. Lol

[@davec9244]

NICE, good job thank you looking forward to part two ALL stay safe

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

I will be posting part 2 this Friday. I hope you will like it. Thanks for watching

[@naturallytrailheaded]

Excellent video, love the landscape!

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks and yes I agree the landscape is beautiful in the canyon

[@williamreeder3660]

Great video…… thank you for sharing

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

It really is my pleasure, I was raising the high deserts and forgot how much I enjoy it. Thanks for watching

[@sherylbates4375]

So interesting! Better you than me walking around the side of the mountain☺

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks! It gets worse though. Recently I spent a sunset and moonrise in a Fremont pit house.... On a ridge. Walking down was fun. 😰

[@LandiWeiser-ne1fo]

Love it! It's incredible!!

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thank you, they were fun to explore

[@thenaturalmidsouth9536]

Drove through there with my wife several years ago. Fascinating place...and the canyon is a lot longer drive than 9 miles for sure...

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks for watching, glad it brought back memories. 9 miles I know... Lol.

[@ramblingrootscamp]

Great video, im glad i found your channel.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks for coming along with me and I am glad you like it

[@davidsadler4878]

Hey Cowboy. I think I saw you a couple of times up 9 mile canyon about 2 weeks ago. I love your down to earth videos. I’m probably about your age and if you ever need a partner in this area I would the opportunity. I am very new to this area, moved to Price about 6 weeks ago. I have always loved exploring. In the early 70’s my uncle and I climbed up to a spot that we could see a wall. This was at lake Powell and we climbed from the waters edge using hand holds carved out by the ancient peoples that lived there. It was a good hundred feet up but what a find. The walls all had mud with finger indentations where they had pushed the mud in. I don’t know if it was a child or an adult but their fingers were smaller then my. I remember that there was corn cobs laying on the floor. They were 4 or 5 inches long. We left everything as it was. My uncle taught me not to take or disturb things. In hindsight sight I wish I had taken one of the corn cobs because with in a few years it would have been under water. It saddens me that so many of these sites were destroyed by that lake and all the loss due to vandalism. Those things are Irreplaceable. Now I’m retired and on my own and live in an area rich in that lost culture and i plan on exploring as much as I can before I can no longer do it. I’m serious if you need help on a hunt I’m am willing and able. I have a question, going up 9 Mile Canyon there were signs all over say that it was all private property and you could only view the pictograph’s from the road. Doing some research on line there are people saying that a lot of the previously posted areas are now open. Do you know if that is true and is Franks canyon marked the same way. Any info on that and where I can look to find other sites would be greatly appreciated My name is Dave.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@davidsadler4878 evening Dave, sorry that was probably not me. I have been up in Maine for about 4 months. I am hoping to get back out to Utah this winter. If I do, we can definitely meet up and do some exploring. Thanks for watching and I am glad you liked them

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@davidsadler4878 can't speak much about franks canyon, I know that private property is well marked up w nine miles and you have to stop but the rest of the canyon is pretty much open to exploring. The lower canyon has a lot of private property but the upper canyon is nice to get out and explore. You know what they say.. .. just be respectful.

[@isorry123_]

Very cool colors with snow

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

It was beautiful

[@HenryKlausEsq.]

Fascinating. Thanks!

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

It is fun to see these places. Glad you enjoyed

[@RadioMan666]

Live close to nine mile. I’ve driven these roads and never climbed to look close. I’m to lazy. 🤣 Tnx for doing that for me. 👍👍

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Literally my pleasure 🤣

[@TheTrailBlazersAZ]

Awesome place.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

It truly was. To see how much of the original structure that was still left was fantastic

[@chrisk7626]

I know a lot about Forts and castles in ancient times and defensive positions. One of my passions growing up I was fascinated with it. Nobody really knows what went on here but based on my analysis of everything. I think these people had bad enemies. I think the reason they find arrowheads everywhere. It's not simply because they've been there thousands of years. That's one point I think it's cuz of thousands of battles of raids. I have noticed lots of the holes. That are quote unquote Windows have angles 70° or better. The only reason you would do that is to shoot arrows out of. Thanks for taking me along the journey I appreciate it have a great day🎉

[@chrisk7626]

You know it's really interesting that they were so behind the times here in America practically living hand-to-mouth and in Europe the Parthenon had been already built the 1000 years food for thought

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Back when I was growing up. Anasazi used to be ancient enemy. Now it's something like forefathers. I agree that defensive and battles played a large role in their life, and limited arable lands. Thanks for watching. I'm glad you enjoyed them

[@adventurehawksancientharmony]

Good video, new subscriber

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thank you, welcome along

[@isorry123_]

It is cool to imagine that the cliff face would have had many people on it living on wooden scaffolding and stuff

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Possibly, more than likely they were used for storage though

[@ruthmusser4449]

TY for sharing. I always wonder why the people had to hide. Thats scat on the ground not poo. 😊

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

I always thought the cliff dwellers were there for safety as well. But I heard a new theory that I liked, where they stayed up high due to limited arable land in the bottom's. That sounds like it could be a part of the puzzle as well. Also , I know I had to start calling it Scott after I heard that first video where I called it poo like six times. Thanks. Part 2 should be out this Friday I'm hoping

[@dyannejohnson6184]

Yes I hear the water gurgling

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

That creek is where the canyon gets it's name. the sound without cars and people is almost deafening .

[@noel3422]

When thinking of the labor and time it took for any people to build cliff dwellings i cannot imagine the scope of the threat was that drove those peoples to go that far in efforts.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks for watching, and I agree. Every time I look up on a Canyon wall and see how hard and how difficult it must have been to access. I can't help but feel there's more and more Credence to the theory of warring tribes.

[@sovereigncosmicwildman]

Those are Sasquatch structures

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Bunk beds?

[@sovereigncosmicwildman]

Who knows, what is known about them is that they're invisible/interdimensional and they build stone stacked walls like this for reasons unknown

[@shaynejenkins446]

@@sovereigncosmicwildman no

[@Dojo-v6m]

Great video! We are headed there next month. Is Frank's Canyon a full day trip like 9 Mile Canyon is?

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

No, it is about 1.5 miles long. You hit private property but this is accessible.... Easily from public road and property. It is across from the "Fremont Village" parking in 9 mile. Bonus... There is a magnificent cliff house further down. I am not sure about private/public land but I flew my drone and it is stunning

[@Dojo-v6m]

@@thecowboyandtheaccountant753 Thank you for responding. I was about to allcoate a full day for Franks Canyon too but I'll just get up extra early and cover on the same day

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@Dojo-v6m your welcome. Any time spent in the canyon will be great fun. Just remember to go slow and look close..... They are everywhere

[@dojo3175]

@@thecowboyandtheaccountant753 Thank You, our kids are really excited for the adventure. We are headed to Disney World after Mesa Verde, 9 Mile Canyon, and Mount Rushmore, but they are more excited about 9 Mile than Disney, thankfully lol

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@dojo3175 you are welcome. It's a great place to lunge the kids.😁 Bring binoculars.

[@drivenmad7676]

@12:51 large piece of worked stone bottom left of screen. Preform maybe???

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

WOW fantastic eye! It does look like it might have been worked.... But I didn't even pay attention to it because it was sand stone. It funny because I said I could make points out of it if I had to🤣

[@ghpa0008]

There is a bridge over the creek down below if you didn’t see it

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

I did see it. I wonder if it was part of the old road way.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Sorry, I am assuming you were referring to the cement bridge. Lol

[@daveycrocket4873]

Back in the time these dwellings were built those ledges were probably 20 ft wide. All that material that collapsed and is now laying at the base of the wall is hard to tell what that's covering up? There could be a cave system there at the bottom that's been covered by debris.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Sorry It took me so long to respond, I thought I had. I agree what is hiding under the debris? Take Rasmussen cave, they excavated quite deep under the flooring I understand. I did get into one cave up there that was completely.... Well not completely but significantly filled with sand. What was under all that sand. Almost me😜 as I had to find another way out than the one I came in on. Safe travels and thanks for watching

[@adventurehawksancientharmony]

The blue rock may actually be some type of copper mineralization

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

I was thinking that as well but I figured if copper was that obvious someone would have tried mining it out. I've looked but haven't had much luck on the Internet for answers.

[@adventurehawksancientharmony]

@@thecowboyandtheaccountant753 as a former archaeologist I really love and appreciate what you were doing. Hopefully within a couple months I’ll be down there doing the same.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

I think you'll have a great time down here exploring.

[@rapson672]

At 14.45 I wonder what kind of beer bottle ? that is ?

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

This is my most favorite to date response!! I wish I was more conversant. I would love to have done a contest to see if anybody spotted that beer bottle. Thank you for making my day

[@windspace7582]

Easy…it's an empty one!😜

[@brucehconrad]

Brown Beer Bottle.

[@dr.pepper6688]

You are doing your best but I dearly wish you didn’t disclose the location of the various sites you are visiting. Perhaps it’s a well known site but I believe you invite too many people to visit the particular area. Since the area has been studied by the state, I believe you could add more information to your video by reading the findings of the study and then highlight the most interesting points addressed. Whether we have Coyote or Mule Deer poop doesn’t add to my knowledge of the indigenous culture. That’s just a retired geology professor’s opinion.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@dr.pepper6688 thanks for the input. I had thought that I might look up any studies done on the sites that had markers but honestly.... I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions? Thanks for watching

[@Hankyjane]

That rocky wall looks so so unstable.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

There are a couple of places that seem questionable. Lol, I think you can hear me in one of the videos. Praying that the rocks above me don't fall down whilel I'm beneath them 😮

[@jaywalker8309]

you may think that these stacked rocks and wood platforms are only a few hundred years old and you think the native american were year just a short time ago wrong they were much longer time than you are willing to say or admit to

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@jaywalker8309 hmmmmmmmmm not sure who this mythical "you" is that you keep referring to. I am well aware that the majority of these sites could be as old as 1400 years old and a limited amount that are far older. There is a cave system in the canyon that I am very certain can trace it's usage back multiples of thousand of years. But thanks for pointing out that the dry desert climate tends to preserve things far better than some people may think

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@jaywalker8309 keep watching, I am planning on heading back into Arizona and revisit some of the list pueblo sites

[@embalwin1738]

The camera is moving too too fast, makes for a headache

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thank you for the input. This is a problem my mom pointed out to me. I have endeavored in more recent videos to slow down then pans. Unfortunately with mixed results.., but i am trying. Thanks for watching

[@chucklearnslithics3751]

Tiger/Oil Chert and all kinds of agates are readily available to the people of Nine Mile. They didn't need those nasty slates. 😁

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Truly? I was not aware of any chert in the area. I have had to be parsimonious with my remaining supply. Lol. Thanks for the information.

[@standingbear998]

thumbnail- anyone could have done tht at anytime

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks for watching and hopefully subscribing. There is always that possibility. In this case I don't think it is modern though.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

I got thinking, maybe I didn't understand what you were saying. "Thumbnail"?

[@jorgegonzales4153]

Maybe those structures just evolved? Lol

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

@@jorgegonzales4153 I know you said it tongue in cheek but I think you are closer to the mark than people think

[@Bf907alaska]

This was built 950 to1000yrs ago,BULLSHOOT,HOW CAN U SAY THAT,it was 1500 to2000 yes ago if anything.WE HERE DID OUR HOMEWORK AND CAN SAY THAT...OH,I FROM UTAH.THATS OUR OPION.THANKX ENJOY YOUR VIDS...

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Thanks for the comment. Sure, that's possible. This could have been a remnant left over from the Basket Makers (5000 BC to 500AD) or as recent as the Ute Tribes (1600AD to Present). However, extrapolating from research from the Museums of Western Colorado, these particular ruins are believed to be from the Fremont Culture (500AD to 1300AD). Without definitive carbon dating it will only be best guesses. But THANKS for watching the videos and I am glad you enjoyed them.

[@zp1191]

Could be 327 years old. Scientists are wrong all the time and carbon dating is hardly bulletproof.

[@jimmyantonio47]

I just wish you guys would stop

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

Sorry Jimmy, stop what?

[@shaynejenkins446]

U mad?

[@Really9805]

Another rookie with a camera. Bad information pure speculation

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

WOW. My first troll! Thanks.

[@shaynejenkins446]

From a couch potato casual lol.

[@kenharrington2700]

You can’t make arrow heads out of that type of stone.

[@thecowboyandtheaccountant753]

🤔 first arrow head I ever found in Arizona was made of red sandstone. And I am also a knapper and have made them out of slate, shale and sandstone. I am with you, they are not a sturdy point but they can be made when other material is not readily available. Also I just did it for fun to see if I could. But thanks for watching. Be safe and I hope you enjoyed them.