AWESOME but FORGOTTEN German Renaissance BASKET HILTED Swords

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@Remainsofaruineddeadcursed-d7t
@Remainsofaruineddeadcursed-d7t 14 сағат бұрын
With such a lack of information on the topic in English. Im very glad this video was made, as short as it is, to push forth thr topic even a little bit
@josephdedrick9337
@josephdedrick9337 14 сағат бұрын
Some info on them, specifically the tessack can be found in Norway due to the amount that got imported there.
@allengordon6929
@allengordon6929 15 сағат бұрын
Hell yess forgotten! I first learned about this whilst trying to find straight-bladed dussacks, and frankly it was love at first sight and ever since.
@SuperOtter13
@SuperOtter13 14 сағат бұрын
The dussak tessak style sword are my all time favorite sword type. Thank you for sharing these with us
@robertvondarth1730
@robertvondarth1730 13 сағат бұрын
Same. I wish LANDSTNECHT EMPORIUM wasn’t the only maker that made good ones
@keithhagler502
@keithhagler502 12 сағат бұрын
Custom has been the only way with these for as long as I can remember.
@flametitan100
@flametitan100 12 сағат бұрын
@@robertvondarth1730 Malleus Martialis recently announced they're working on one, and a friend of a friend of mine was messing with a Castille prototype for one as well.
@polymathart
@polymathart 16 сағат бұрын
One day, I hope Ian McCollum does a video with Matt.
@fridrekr7510
@fridrekr7510 15 сағат бұрын
19thC weapons seem like a great overlap for both, maybe discussing how rifles and bayonets or pistols and swords work with one another and how it affects design.
@Book-bz8ns
@Book-bz8ns 14 сағат бұрын
That would be really cool.
@HobieH3
@HobieH3 13 сағат бұрын
Absolutely. Maybe percussion revolvers, or any of the Lee or Martini rifles
@Oldtanktapper
@Oldtanktapper 12 сағат бұрын
Bayonets. On. Everything.
@apollo13oxygentank14
@apollo13oxygentank14 12 сағат бұрын
Ian's got a pretty bad track record on LGBTQ rights and on being willing to work with sketchy people. He's no Shad, but I would be disappointed to see him in HEMA spaces.
@filthypappenheimer5355
@filthypappenheimer5355 16 сағат бұрын
Finally a video about one of my favourite types of sword!
@Zbigniew_Nowak
@Zbigniew_Nowak 15 сағат бұрын
Recently I saw an old advertisement for a French fencing school. On the poster, a student of this school defeats everyone: a Spaniard with a rapier, a Pole and a Hungarian with sabers, and... a German with a long and wide sword similar to this one. This was apparently their typical weapon. 2:42 I think it's not a matter of trust or lack of trust in the protection provided by the basket, but an element that facilitates the use of old fencing techniques of catching the opponent's blade with this quillons. Early Hungarian sabers have the same "trace of old times".
@filthypappenheimer5355
@filthypappenheimer5355 15 сағат бұрын
Do you have a link to the poster? I would really like to see it
@Zbigniew_Nowak
@Zbigniew_Nowak 14 сағат бұрын
@@filthypappenheimer5355 Well, a guy showed it on a Polish-language channel, but if you type "Narodowa broń biała i szermierka około 1680 roku w Europie", you will find a video where the guy shows this poster.
@Magey_McMage
@Magey_McMage 15 сағат бұрын
"Hi, thanks for tuning in to another episode of Forgotten Weapons, I'm Matt Easton and today we're at Olympia Auctions with my friend Jonathan Ferguson who is going to show /you guys/ a cool and unique pre-(30 years)war H&K Mortuary Hilt sword."
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 14 сағат бұрын
In bavarian town Cham a gunmaker/ gunsmith Kuchenreutter has his shop. His ancesters date back as gunmakers/ gunsmiths shortly after after Thirty Years War.
@tatache5971
@tatache5971 15 сағат бұрын
The two first straight-bladed ones are GORGEOUS. I would have a sword like this so much. After the vid on the schiavonesca, this one! The year is finishing well. Thanks Matt!
@ForeverMCR
@ForeverMCR 13 сағат бұрын
I could watch a 1000 hours of matt easton talking about dussacks. Most underrated weapon in pure vibes ❤
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 15 сағат бұрын
Baskethilts are still used as Korbschläger in accademic fencing. Up to 1648 Switzerland and Netherlands had been part of HRE, current Belgium until 1792. Up to 1866 Austria, Luxemburg and Liechtenstein had been part of German Federation/ Deutscher Bund. According to an article i read somewhere, that up to about 1800 in accademic fencing of students a rapier with a large plate/ discshaped guard was used. Only for duel, with a simplified fencing system. The famous Ludwig (?) Jahn of Turner ( gymnastics) movement made fun about this rapier and fencing style: The guard is in size of a soup plate, and fencing style useless for combat.
@ramibairi5562
@ramibairi5562 15 сағат бұрын
Excellent presentation for such an exotic sword ❤
@Zbigniew_Nowak
@Zbigniew_Nowak 15 сағат бұрын
"Exotic" in relation to Germany is an interesting term, but in a sense... :)
@jankarieben1071
@jankarieben1071 14 сағат бұрын
Pov: watching Scholagladitoria videos; “Oh wow, my new favorite sword! … Oh wow, my new favorite….” 🍻❤️🤺
@konstantin.v
@konstantin.v 2 сағат бұрын
But they won't allow you to do frontal thrusts! 😁
@notsae66
@notsae66 16 сағат бұрын
German Basket Hilts are the greatest in the world!
@keithhagler502
@keithhagler502 12 сағат бұрын
Yes. Yes, they are.
@kimashitawa8113
@kimashitawa8113 12 сағат бұрын
SEKAI ICHI
@michaelsmith8028
@michaelsmith8028 16 сағат бұрын
Forgotten weapons? Without Ian McCollum?
@dSlayer6160
@dSlayer6160 14 сағат бұрын
Where gun Jesus
@lscibor
@lscibor 15 сағат бұрын
Customary plea to do a video about what seems to be the koncerz/tuck, 3rd from the left. 👌
@Shcreamingreen
@Shcreamingreen 15 сағат бұрын
10:29 made me hit the like button instantly
@ricebrown1
@ricebrown1 16 сағат бұрын
On first sighting a new sword video, I naturally watched and liked it. That's my style, sir!
@titanscerw
@titanscerw 14 сағат бұрын
Thats swordwatching!
@barnettmcgowan8978
@barnettmcgowan8978 7 сағат бұрын
I love the sheer depth of Matt's knowledge. He must be fun to have a beer with.
@pa1adin111
@pa1adin111 9 сағат бұрын
Those are fascinating. Since you're been showing more complex hilt designs would you be able to do a video on Pappenheimer hilts? I'd love to hear your thoughts on the subject.
@urseliusurgel4365
@urseliusurgel4365 12 сағат бұрын
I have one, mushroom pommel, large 'S' quillons, the right of the basket composed of wide curving ribbons - forge welded, the left side of round bar, thumb and finger rings. wide, straight broadsword blade - 32 ins long, with a central fuller and rather rounded tip. A fearsome looking beast! Given the fetishizing of schiavonas, I'm always surprised how these swords seem to be largely overlooked by the collecting community. A 16th century sword in good condition (grip covering replaced at some point), purchased for the price of a decent 1796 LC sabre!
@tuerkefechi
@tuerkefechi 11 сағат бұрын
Yep indeed, German/swiss/austrian baskethilted Tessak/Dussack and Broadsword/Backsword are very, very common, you find them in lot of museums in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. My favorite example I had in my hands so far, you can see in my channel.
@NaturalSynthetic777
@NaturalSynthetic777 5 сағат бұрын
A video on thumb rings please
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE Сағат бұрын
Thank you for the video ⚔️
@yowza234
@yowza234 15 сағат бұрын
Ya can't clickbait us like this People have been asking for that collab
@stevenclifton624
@stevenclifton624 13 сағат бұрын
Would love to see more info on Saxson hilts
@philparkinson462
@philparkinson462 14 сағат бұрын
Great video Matt. Would be interesting to explore The Victorian (and later) fascination with describing some of this type as 'Sinclair sabre' type. I'd imagine mainly down to association with Sinclairs doomed campaign and not unlike Victoria's re imagination of Scottish highland life?
@nobodyexpectssi4654
@nobodyexpectssi4654 15 сағат бұрын
Hermosas espadas. Recias y elegantes. No las conocía. Gracias, Maestro
@keithhagler502
@keithhagler502 15 сағат бұрын
Boom!....there they are! My favorites, and I am sure the favorites of many, although not so often spoken of. Thanks, Matt! You either saw my previous comment or have mind-reading capabilities 😂 All you good folk, give this man a push on the like button.
@titanscerw
@titanscerw 14 сағат бұрын
Yes, underrated and understudied. Glad it is now represented here by Matt Easton and also among the general demographic via Polish game Hellish Quart where South German character Kalkstein wields Schiavona - which used as far as I know similar moves as these beauties in the video. +][+
@jacqueslandry2319
@jacqueslandry2319 6 сағат бұрын
Yep, definitely my favorite
@joejoelesh1197
@joejoelesh1197 13 сағат бұрын
I imagine there is some people looking at how these more complex hilts were formed. We're the formed flatish, then forged to shape? Were the bars cut & shaped then forge welded together using a specificly shaped anvil?
@M0T0M451
@M0T0M451 15 сағат бұрын
Fifth from the right, my goodness, what an attractive sword.
@ramibairi5562
@ramibairi5562 16 сағат бұрын
Matt I have a question : German blades were imported to numerous places and mounted on kaskaras and Firanghis . Would this mean that those type of swords would cut with the same effect as a German Broadswords/ backswords ?
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 14 сағат бұрын
It depends on the specific example, as many German blades were made in a specific style for the place they were exporting to - for example kaskara blades were clearly made as kaskara blades a lot of the time, to standard size and shape.
@ironanvil1
@ironanvil1 6 сағат бұрын
AIUI, Scottish basket hilts owe much of their origin to the large numbers of Scottish mercenaries who served in various German, Scandinavian and wider Baltic armies, and brought the blades they used there back with them.
@raffaellointernational2401
@raffaellointernational2401 14 сағат бұрын
I have a dream, that one day my two fav youtubers will be able to collaborate to make the sickest video on combination weapons. I have a dream today...
@Remainsofaruineddeadcursed-d7t
@Remainsofaruineddeadcursed-d7t 14 сағат бұрын
Would to one day have an antique one of these and a similar HEMA version. But without the damn thumb rings. I know they were popular at this time. But thankfully they don't all have one
@titanscerw
@titanscerw 14 сағат бұрын
What a glorious day, thank you, Matt! +][+
@johncullen9436
@johncullen9436 6 сағат бұрын
Could you possibly do a vid. on the thumb ring? Or refer me to one you have already done, if I've missed it? I think that that would be interesting.
@carloparisi9945
@carloparisi9945 15 сағат бұрын
Hi Matt, these German basket hilts with a cross remind me of the ones depicted in Silver, I know it's weird to think that.
@ulfhedtyrsson
@ulfhedtyrsson 14 сағат бұрын
Excellent!
@Murgoh
@Murgoh 7 сағат бұрын
I think most basket hilts look too big and clumsy for my aesthetics but these, especially the last one, are smaller and more elegant looking.
@mikajlod25
@mikajlod25 14 сағат бұрын
Can someone give this man some gloves that fit and are not stretched to bursting
@hic_tus
@hic_tus 11 сағат бұрын
I can see the guy forging the first basket hilts: "so, my lord here, and his father, and his granfather before him, had their fingers chopped off by an infamous villain. that's a shame. Lads, I want you to build a cage, around those fingers, we are gonna make tens, I dare say hundreds of pounds with this idea! to work now, off you go!"
@henninghesse9910
@henninghesse9910 11 сағат бұрын
Thaler or Groschen.
@hic_tus
@hic_tus 11 сағат бұрын
can it be possible that the sword with the finger ring was refitted? maybe the blade was not meant to have a complex guard but they then added bars and things later on? it does make sense to me. especially having such a distinctive cross guard and no ricasso🤔 the flat pommel too, maybe the tang was a bit short and they had to make a squished pommel to adjust everything together, with the added weight of the bars and all considered🤔🤔
@dingram1066
@dingram1066 15 сағат бұрын
Can you recommend any modern sword makers that make one similar to these examples?
@jonc4050
@jonc4050 15 сағат бұрын
It's not a Toledo Salamanca. Still very nice😮
@PJDAltamirus0425
@PJDAltamirus0425 15 сағат бұрын
This kinda makes me wonder. More complex hilts mean you hold your further out, like closer to a straight line...... you could easier gauge the center of percusion cus you could treat the sword like the sights and barrel of a pistol. Less shields being used mean smaller thinks to get around........ so does complex hilts encourage single edge to double edge blade designs and meduim to large shields encourage double edge cus the shield is your hand protection but obstruction your have to get around. It would suck to work around a shield only to hit someone with the spine of the blade. Nevermind.... idk how you use this like a saber... this kinda makes me think of a european tulwar.
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 15 сағат бұрын
1 and a half edged instead of mainly single edged or double edged
@Flytrap
@Flytrap 10 сағат бұрын
It looks like the crossguards are a function of the hilt. (Bad math joke)
@elliotsmith9812
@elliotsmith9812 14 сағат бұрын
So if early basket hilts had steel bars why why why did people LATER use bronze???
@keithhagler502
@keithhagler502 13 сағат бұрын
For the military, beginning especially with the French, it was a matter of production rate, aesthetics (the shiny stuff), and rust prevention. A cast guard is ten times faster to produce when equipping thousands.
@fridrekr7510
@fridrekr7510 15 сағат бұрын
It’s an interesting point you highlight with how simple hilts were at the end of the 15thC, especially considering how complex armour had become. I guess the next question is then whether they came about later because the needs changed, such as not wearing gauntlets and therefore needing more hand protection, or if it’s just purely an evolution of a better design with the introduction of complex hilts. Do these even make sense if you’re in full plate, or is it more for civilian use and lighter troops?
@keithhagler502
@keithhagler502 11 сағат бұрын
I assume, and have seen on display, these paired well with three-quarter or half harness, some eschewing the right gauntlet or both as being cumbersome. Generally the 'almain' armours with munions. That sort. A move toward light and faster cavalry, an idea spreading from Hungary.
@rhetorical1488
@rhetorical1488 15 сағат бұрын
my German great grandmother beat us about the head with her wicker mushroom basket for misbehaving. Ill assume this is where she came across the idea😅
@OhioCruffler
@OhioCruffler 9 сағат бұрын
A Broacksword!
@MariaCastillo-i4e
@MariaCastillo-i4e 16 сағат бұрын
Your channel is like an oasis in the world of content. Keep on making us happy with your work!🏋️🍇🧭
@MyraLara-k5r
@MyraLara-k5r 16 сағат бұрын
Meine Vorstellung von einem heißen Date ist eine kochend heiße Pizza und eine Netflix-Serie, die ich schon zweimal gesehen habe✨
@heimdalshorn
@heimdalshorn 9 сағат бұрын
...da haben wir uns wohl auf dem völlig falschen Kanal verirrt....?🤣
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