Tarn: A Terrible British WW2 Experimental Pistol

[@marcinnazwisko5289]

Actually, the constructor's name (and surname) was Teofil Tarnowski, so TARN are the first 4 letter of his surname. And, Ian, the constructor was not Zygmunt de Lubicz-Bakanowski, but in many (even books) esteemed sources the mistake is replicated. The TARN no 100 was sold (5000 EURO) in A83 Hermann Historica auction in 4th of November 2020.

[@termitreter6545]

Idk if this was the gun to put your name on...

[@jmjedi923]

@@termitreter6545 maybe that's why he only did the first 4 letters?

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

@@termitreter6545I wonder how many time Browning got things wrong before he got it right on all of his designs?

[@filiofbs]

Yeah, www.magnum-x.pl/artykul/ktokolwiekwidzialktokolwiekwie there's also the Te. Tar. N. 11---> Teofil Tarnowski No.11

[@RWieladek]

@@filiofbs Interestingly, the article (in Polish) points out that 3 units had bottomed up over the years - serial no 103, 105 and 107. Seems Ian has shown something out of this lot (108) ;)

[@Will-go5xu]

“It’s not about functionality, it’s about sending the message”

And the message is "fall into water with this sumo wrestler, it'll drag you to the bottom and drown you"

[@TheWolfsnack]

...it's about ..."tarnation".....

[@jerkfudgewater147]

It’s about NO NOVEL FEATURES IN THE DESIGN 4:31 I.e. it’s about some turd too stupid to invent something trying to invent something

[@AndrewAMartin]

@@jerkfudgewater147 Sometimes, it's not about novel new features, sometimes it's about making it cheaper and/or faster...

[@jerkfudgewater147]

@@AndrewAMartin that would actually contain a “novel method of production” Which is tricky to do when the other production facility is already up and running and still beat their production costs... this on the other hand is something you can see on the cover of every gun magazine -the same shit from 30 years ago- maybe in a new color... if you’re lucky We have 7 billion people someone somewhere is in all likelihood inventing something actually new atleast once a decade (though i feel that that level of creativity is currently being focused on getting around regulation with tricks like the binary trigger system or simple bumpstocks... which of course fit the same old stuff that’s been on the market for “30 years” already. Yes i know this gun is old... i’m just offended by it’s absurd lack of creativity

[@andrewbear1057]

A "tarn" is a type of glacial lake, way up in the mountains. You know, kinda like where you want to throw the darn thing.

[@GunsGuy1990]

More like a mixed Colt 1911 and Astra 600 (which is also straight blowback)

[@longdarkrideatnight]

Or they were suggesting that a watery maid would be handing them out.

[@nunyabidniz2868]

@@longdarkrideatnight Did you mean perhaps "...some soggy bint..."? I thought that was limited to future autocrats... ;-)

[@boogaloofever]

That's clever. On par with Carl's observation of that Pico pistol belonging in dirt!

[@longdarkrideatnight]

In this more enlightened age watery tarts can feel free to share their arms with soldiers and kings alike.

[@pattonorr7572]

Ian: “They only made about 10 of these.” Me: *sees fireplace in background* … “yeah, that checks out”

[@M0torsagmannen]

fireplaceguy certainly have an impressive collection of absurdly rare pistols

[@ScottKenny1978]

Fireplace guy probably has 8 of them, too...

[@tutzdesYT]

@@krockpotbroccoli65 There is an interview video on Forgotten Weapons with some awesome weapon restoration expert and the exact same background. But, I think there is some reason Ian doesn't announce the gun owner name in every fireplace video he makes.

[@Bialy_1]

@@ScottKenny1978 www.magnum-x.pl/artykul/ktokolwiekwidzialktokolwiekwie In this Polish article they are saying that only 3 are known to exist, no. 103, 105 and 107 and here in the video he have number 108... and other gun in this article is TE. TAR N. 11 made by st. ogn. Teofil Tarnowski(older artilery sergeant) this submachine pistol came to Poland from London so most likely this N. 11 was this guy next gun after that 10 "TARN" pistols.

[@nettles89]

It stands for “Tarnation.” As in, “what in Tarnation made you think we’d be interested in adopting this piece of junk?”

[@stephenbritton9297]

you beat me to it! Tarn it!

[@billd66]

Nice to know I'm not the only one who thought this.

[@dontanner232]

I say , I say, I say .....

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

I read that in the voice of *Foghorn Leghorn.* 😊

[@dinoslavski]

It comes from designers surname, Teofil Tarnowski, Ian's source mixed up him with another guy

[@janhulek785]

"The whole gun is really quite dense..." Yup, in both senses of the word.

[@kajun4]

The side-by-side makes it look like someone tried to re-create the 1911 for a Nintendo 64 game.

[@TraTranc]

"This is a straight blowback and has a heavy slide." So essentially a WW2 Hi-Point?

[@Broken_Yugo]

That's what I thought, its a steel hi point, single stack, heavy, blowback, striker fired, shit disassembly, shit handling.

[@tarstakars]

But sadly still better....

[@brasstard7.627]

Its pretty much a copy of the Astra 400

[@KosherPorky]

Hi-Points are shit on for no reason. They are cheap, reliable, and good shots.

[@RevBoose]

1940’s-era Yeet Cannon!

[@redbyrd64]

When Gun Jesus refuses to take down a firearm you know it is blasphemous

[@finscreenname]

When Gun Jesus..... rotflmao 😎

[@DeadeyeLefty]

Haha, that was my first thought too !!! Reminds of me after I got my Ruger Mk3 back together the first time: I'm NEVER doing that again !!! It's no biggie now and I've done it lots...but never in a dusty barn using a scarf I pulled off a clothesline somewhere or when I had to break it down in a hurry to see why it misfired...again.

[@peterresetz1960]

That pistol looks like it was designed for a video game by someone who knew nothing about pistols.

[@finscreenname]

@@peterresetz1960 or a company that made practice guns...

[@ronschramm9163]

"Roughly doubles as a safety.." one of Gun Jesus's greatest understatements.

[@andersjjensen]

I don't know who this private collector is, but man am I grateful that he lets Ian put his mitts on every cool/rare/obscure/goofy item and present it to us! :D

[@earlmcmanus194]

✓ Difficult to disassemble ✓ Blowback operation using disadvantageously powerful cartridge ✓ Not much to look at Yep it's a 1940's Hi-Point

[@calebneff5777]

“Nambu 1911 isn’t real, it can’t hurt you” Nambu 1911:

[@HellbirdIV]

The name "Nambu-Eleven" kinda rolls off the tongue.

[@runlarryrun77]

🤣🤣🤣

[@chrishahn3834]

With that kind of spring compression on the recoil spring I can imagine Ian taking out that dovetailed block and the slide shooting across the room. I laugh, Ian laughs, and the curators grumble loudly.

[@mariosebastiani3214]

They'd grumble only if they keep out of the trajectory though.

[@paulpolito2001]

Gotta love straight blowback guns in standard, “full-power” calibers, eh? Tbf, the Tarn is a bad concept, as a blowback 9x19mm will have: a.) exceptionally *heavy* slide/bolt AND/OR recoil spring that is uncomfortably powerful; & b.) be disproportionately heavy. That refers to “well designed” instances, as well... this adds quite a few drawbacks that are independent of the limitations of the Operating System, lol... not ‘Zip-22 Bad’ but certainly belongs in the same playlist as that chunk’o’shit.

[@RiderOftheNorth1968]

According to the english author Richard Adams "Tharn" is the name of the catatonic state of paralysis that rabbit may enter when very frighten. I am pretty sure this have very little to do with this sorry pistol. ;-)

[@bulkhungry]

An allegory for 2020 ?

[@victorwaddell6530]

I've heard the term " going tharn " when an animal is paralyzed by bright lights or an incoming threat . Poachers use bright lights to paralyze animals.

[@maxkennedy8075]

You could say the gun, after its unsuccessful test it was... forgottarn

[@jameschristiansson3137]

9.5 9.8 9.4 9.9

[@DAI.H4RD]

@@jameschristiansson3137 i tried number pad but still can't tell what your saying.

[@SoWhat1221]

​@@DAI.H4RD I'm picturing a table of judges holding up numbers.

[@jameschristiansson3137]

@@SoWhat1221 That's it.

[@paulpolito2001]

While I love learning about obscure, rare, and especially unusual designs; with this one, I’m left wondering, “Why?”, tbh

[@gnaskar]

I'm guessing the design process started in the dark days of we need anything that is easy to produce and can be made now phase of the war, and was completely too late to take advantage of that phase.

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

@@gnaskar It may also be a case of the designer fixating on his "wonderful" design, failing to see just how flawed it is. It's quite easy to get stuck in the idea that "I can make this work!" and it can be hard to snap someone out of this delusion. Having the design tested and rejected so soundly was probably a very good thing for the designer even if it hurt so see his dream crushed.

[@paulpolito2001]

@@blahorgaslisk7763 I think you’re close to the mark, this one has quite a few hallmarks of an obsessed designer. Or a ‘Committee Design’, perhaps

[@kevinwaldi499]

Looks like the Elbonian SpecOps just got a new Offensive pistol!

[@intelinside5574]

Ian's "The bad" playlist: this will make a fine addition to my collection

[@ruui6541]

It's like a Ruby pistol and a M1911 had a one night stand

[@tannercrooks3100]

1911: You suck and you're tiny. Ruby: You're ugly and you suck! *5 drinks later* 1911: you *hic* wanna get outta here? Ruby: *giggles* sure.

[@WardenWolf]

What in Tarnation? I just saw that screw slot as part of the sight groove and immediately went "Oh hell no." This is going to be one of THOSE designs, with boneheaded design decisions throughout.

[@Saturnus_Ouranos]

Agree

[@iobey]

The unholy combination of Glock and Nambu...

[@thijsvandervoort8261]

I was thinking Nambu and 1911 but who cares. It looks like a unholy offspring anyway

[@awittyusernamepleaselaugh7481]

Glambull

[@nazarderkach9320]

I personally think that it's more like Hi-Point x 1911.

[@Qsaws_]

Looks a lot like a FN 1922

[@CrysResan]

@@awittyusernamepleaselaugh7481 Glombu

[@laci816]

I like how the British report is roasting the gun politely

[@rfswitch4530]

I love these older "large caliber" blowback handguns. I'm amazed that it seemed so difficult for major gun manufacturers to get a reasonable balance of performance out of large blowback pistols. Fast forward a few decades and Hi-points are so common that many "gun people" dismiss them without taking a moment to appreciate the difficulty of making a good blowback pistol in anything more powerful than 9mm Makarov. And to think that Hi-Point does so with very little steel in their design... the mind boggles. Great content regardless, I had never heard of this pistol until today.

[@eizol568]

“Darn it, we made a bad weapon...but in the future, a long hair hippie will talk about it...”

[@stevejones1488]

That is blasphemy, dont you ever insult gun jesus like that. I sincerely hope somebody slaps you with a dueling glove good sir.

[@tannercrooks3100]

That... *Loads Lebel* Sounds... *Mounts bayonet* Like... *Shoulders weapon* BLASPHEMY!!! *OPENS FIRE*

[@stevejones1488]

@@tannercrooks3100 im not sure i think id rather cop 4x 8mm lebel centremass than a tri bayonet to the guts.

[@Shenko91]

Every time you see the magic fireplace in the background, you know you're in for a treat.

[@joeytucker9430]

Love your work Ian! Thanks for taking the obscure to light.

[@RiderOftheNorth1968]

Yes, and some times dispell the demons!!

[@tylerleavitt2715]

At 2:53, Tarn next to a nice 1911, you see what my old man meant by “big American.” Stunning visual, Ian. Thanks for including it!

[@hehe3301]

This really Tarnished the reputation of British arms production...

[@alanvonify]

Ooooh I see what you did there....

[@Pcm979]

The design needed more Polish.

[@nunyabidniz2868]

You can let yourself out for that one...

[@Stevarooni]

Take my up-vote, you monster!

[@rodrigogascagomez5190]

Especially with that atroughcious sight

[@dogemasters4491]

This looks like somebody tried to copy the 1911 design but only using their memory.

[@MrSplic3r]

..while drunk

[@einhundertfunfzig4919]

Look at the fn1922 and then you’ll know where tarn was copied from

[@paulpolito2001]

And had no foreknowledge of *how* a 1911 functions, mechanically speaking.

[@calebneff5777]

Somebody described a 1911 over the phone

[@Guhonter]

The magic fireplace keeps delivering ;)

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@nuclearmedicineman6270 he certainly delivers all the weird and wacky prototypes there!

[@razeel2000]

I like that even the unsuccessful designs get a chance here. Even if they are not the cream of the crop, one get some insight on what the designers ideas were. Not with this one specifically, but I think you get the idea. Go, Ian!

[@mulgerbill]

I heard Cobray tried to license the design...

[@randymagnum143]

Some respect to JMB and Colt for making such an aesthetically pleasing pistol, especially next to this thing.

[@keleighshepherd345]

In Northern England a tarn is another name for a lake, often in mountainous terrain

[@frankryan2505]

Ha,id forgotten that.. Been away from home too long :/

[@luckyduckydrivingschool3615]

I remember checking out the copy of "Handguns of the World" at my local library as a kid. It's a great book, has a lot of photos and diagrams, and provides a pretty encyclopedic history of handguns from the most common to really obscure.

[@dougmapper3306]

Official motion to change the word "darn" to "tarn" as in GOSH TARN IT

[@dbaider9467]

Love seeing stuff like this. More please.

[@GaldirEonai]

"Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it."

[@stephen7571]

I like your thinking.

[@mfree80286]

Looking at the part lines in the slide and block, I'll bet that the reason they don't want you disassembling it is because the slide doesn't need to be moved at all to remove it... you take the block out, and the spring does three things: 1 - rips the slide out of your grasp 2 - launches the slide off the front of the frame, into the next county 3 - causes the frame to recoil in such a manner that the breech block goes skywards, freed from it's constraints to the slide, and distributes Tarn bits with great vigor.

[@benevatt9114]

Looks like a badly drawn 1911

[@raidendigital1003]

When Ian inserted the image at 6:01 and said it's a Te-Tar it felt so random like was actually watching a YTP remix. Oh man, that would be fun for April fool's day this year!

[@kiwivogel]

Is this secretly the origin of "what in tarnation?" ? :P

[@maciejlewandowski7311]

In polish language "tarn" has no meaning. Maybe those polish gunsmiths were from Tarnów? If you could check it out, that might lay some light on the origins of the name ;)

[@awokado5710]

Yeah i think it might be "Tarnów", at 1:46 you can see dot at the end of the "Tarn" which could mean it's short for "Tarnów"

[@azmanabdula]

As an Englishman Thank you!

[@andreww2098]

you are probably right! but the word Tarn is a Viking derived word used in Cumbria for a small lake formed during the Ice age by a Glacier, so the designer may have named his guns after lakes or rivers

[@wolfsmaul-ger8318]

in german, tarn means something like "conceal" or "hide/hidden"

[@danielmarsden4573]

@@andreww2098 ngl, tarns aren’t particularly inspiring

[@TheSlasherJunkie]

It looks like a Tokarev got a 1911 drunk and stumbled out behind the pub...

[@VosperCDN]

My first thought was it's resemblance to a Tokarev.

[@WardenWolf]

@@VosperCDN Except the Tokarev is an actually good gun.

[@ФилиппИчеткин]

More like Stechkin

[@nathanaelsomerville3687]

Thats an insult to both the 1911 and the tt-33

[@deputy_commander7595]

This is what happen if Tokarev doesn't drink Vodka. 😀😀😀

[@herrerasauro7429]

How did they manage to make a blowback operated pistol hard to disassemble? That's a feat in itself, in 1945 no less.

[@basedaf7721]

somewhere around the world... "dad, can we get Remington 51?" "no, we have Remington 51 at home" Remington 51 at home:

[@emergingloki]

9mm P, heavy spring, heavy slide, single stack mag, don't want to dismantle it: It's the prototype Hi-Point!!

[@victorwaddell6530]

Magazines don't drop freely .

[@walkercobb2808]

Man, can't wait to see Lindybeige desperately try to defend this for being british.

[@itsconnorstime]

Most if not all of the best weapons made in Britain had a foreign influence.

[@greycatturtle7132]

Who is lindybeige

[@roryhennessey1983]

​@greycatturtle7132 hahaha funny guy!

[@greycatturtle7132]

@@roryhennessey1983 ???

[@kara-k3854]

@@greycatturtle7132a KZbin Channel with Videos about various topics including history whos host has a bias towards anything British. He himself is British of course.

[@StealthySpace7]

I love that you can see aspects of the M1911 in so many pistols

[@korbetthein3072]

I saw Tarn and thought that there was a Dwarf Fortress update, instead I got a Forgotten Weapons video!

[@741al6]

Gun Jesus cancels Review Gun: Horrified.

[@roberts1938]

As it is commonly believed, although it is not known whether, according to reality, the designer as well as the author of the patent for this weapon was rtm. 18th Uhlans' Regiment Zygmunt Stefan de Lubicz Bakanowski - but although several patents of Lubicz-Bakanowski can be found in the inventories of patents in the world, none of them concerns the pistol. In the documents of the Sikorski Institute in London, there is a reference in the documents concerning another pistol marked “TE. TAR N. 11" According to the donor's declaration, the weapon contractor was to be the Staff-sergeant artillery (military rank in artillery) Teofil Tarnowski. Tarnowski - TARN. Perhaps they are the actual creator and, according to the note, the maker of the weapon. The same may be true of this gun. Tarnowski is not known as constructor, but he probably converted many types, simplified the construction, and made prototypes for further research. An interesting case is the caliber, which would be very useful in the fight against the German occupier in the areas occupied by Germany, but the SOE recommendations (in line with British policy) were such that the Polish partisans would not be sent weapons for which they could use captured ammunition, which was a lot.. This could make these sabotage groups independent from English aid and from English control. An example of another Tarnawski pistol in the collection of the Museum of the Polish Army in Warsaw. You can see the similarity to Sten Gun: www.magnum-x.pl/files/artykuly/strzal/98_strzal_2011_03_04/6.jpg

[@KillerRedVine]

This gun looks more in place back in the late 1890s or early 1900s. But not towards the end of a war that created some of the most influential firearms designs.

[@jimwegerer5988]

Errr...get back, in, there...BONG... TARN IT my recoil spring is stuck to the ceiling again!

[@joehodgy]

"So, I think you can see why the British gave up on this pistol..." Ian - have you learnt *nothing* about British Defence Procurement? :D

[@anzaca1]

You referring to the L-85? Because the L-85 is good.

[@Treblaine]

The "bolt thrust" of even a catridge as weak as 9x19mm is over 3000 pounds so even an absurdly powerful spring of 50lbs would have negligiable effect on keeping the action closed, the main benefit of a stronger spring is the literal mass of the steel in the spring. Only the inertia of the mass of a slide will keep the action closed, though a shorter barrel can also help as you don't need to keep the action closed as long.

[@swendsenwiley]

The name is probably from the town Tarnow or the last name Tarnowski(I personally had some family ancestors who had this last name before they settled on something much more American in the 20's)

[@Americanstruggle]

I and my son always appreciate your content. At almost 20, he is a bit old school firearm buff. He would rather shoot my SKS over my AR15.

[@michaelwarenycia7588]

He has good taste!

[@User_Un_Friendly]

It’s called a “Tarn” because the best thing to do with it if you’re issued one, is to drop it into a lake. 😶

[@simebeck101]

A Tarn is a pond or lake situated in hilly country, as in the Peak District (Yorkshire) or the Lake District (Cumbria). Think of a pond in the bowl of a weathered hill top.

[@neilmorrison7356]

I did a project on Malam Tarn as part of one of my degrees

[@Saturnus_Ouranos]

So, basically like a caldera but smaller and on a hill in terms of appearance?

[@neilmorrison7356]

@@Saturnus_Ouranos similar in appearance but not formed by volcanic activity

[@Saturnus_Ouranos]

@@neilmorrison7356 this is what I meant

[@arthurlivesley]

A tarn is a small lake formed by a glacier- it's a common northern English word. Dunno if that's where the gun got its name though

[@IndianaJoe3]

Full explanation, for the curious: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarn_(lake)

[@NinjaDeathSlap]

The side by side comparison to the 1911 had serious 'You vs the service pistol she tell you not to worry about' vibes.

[@EpicTyphlosionTV]

When making guns stupidly cheap backfires

[@TheHacknor]

Not literally I hope

[@salfordshan3545]

@@TheHacknor it probably did

[@DaelLessons]

*Zip 22 flashbacks*

[@DR-on5by]

Polish Gunsmiths were familiar with 32. Pocket Blowback Pistols and they figured they could just upscale the system to 9mm. The gun probably sucks but I wanted to give an explanation why this was made

[@TheDarkestDerp]

TARN: Terrible Autoloading Rooty tooty point 'N shooty

[@funkycat9629]

And there Flys the slide of

[@곰돌슨]

Ian gets the Tarn pistol "tarn" apart. That is "tarn" cool!

[@baronofhell2277]

Im surprised i can see the "Tarn" pistol

[@beavisbutt-headson3223]

It's both a visibly terrible and a terribly visible pistol!

[@totenkopf28]

Ah yes the legendary chimney. We want a tour of the owner's collection.

[@hoonterofhoonters6588]

I don't know why I have such a fascination with old, cheap pistols. Not cheap, modern pistols. Not unsuccesful, but passionately made pistols. I specifically love pistols with unrecognizable names which vaguely resemble 1911s.

[@jasondoe2596]

You do you, no kink shaming here :D

[@schizoidboy]

After the Browning 9mm pistol manufactured in Canada during the war this clearly is no competition at all. The Browning P35 worked perfectly, had thirteen rounds, and was used for decades - probably used to this day in places.

[@nocturnalmayhem0]

it looks like a 1940s hi point.

[@JessZomb]

You know it's bad when Ian won't take it apart...

[@drpsionic]

How did they find their way to America? "It's a gun, an American will want it."

[@janwacawik7432]

The name "Tarn" is very mysterious indeed. There are some guns in possession of the Museum of the Polish Army in Warsaw whose designations follow similar naming convention, but not much is known about any of them. There's also very little written about captain Zygmunt Lubicz-Bakanowski, the designer of this pistol. Leszek Erenfeicht, a reputed Polish gun expert and writer (who wrote some excellent articles published on the Forgotten Weapons website) did an investigation about the mystery guns, but I haven't read into it as of yet.

[@marksmith8928]

Having never heard of this, my first thought was "What in tarnation is that?"

[@spac3fr0g]

What in *Tarn* ation Sorry had to say it

[@CrunchyMaggots]

>walks into the pitch room "Look, I get it, you're tired of the 1911..."

[@paddington1670]

"Damn, this gun is terrible, it's surely going to tarnish our brand name, what shall we call it?"

[@caramelldansen2204]

I wouldn't call the former British Empire a "brand" lol

[@dkoz8321]

Insurgent gun. The thinness for concealment.

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

The front has a very familiar look to it.

[@martingardener90]

Another great video from Forgotten Fireplaces -- I mean Weapons!

[@283blood]

Looks like Astra, and FN Browning or Mauser had an illegitimate love child.

[@AtheistOrphan]

I’m British and I’ve never heard of this. Thanks Ian.

[@Jemson]

As a Frenchman coming from the great southern France department of Tarn (Occitanie), I am slightly offended.

[@Qsaws_]

You could say your reputation was tarnished

[@Kevin-mx1vi]

That's OK, you're offended by something (partly) British, which is normal. 😁

[@klutz1907]

As a German coming from Germany, i'm offended that you referred to France as France and not Reichsprotektorat Frankreich.

[@screamsinrussian5773]

@@klutz1907 just wait until you get to Lorraine

[@chrisstephens6673]

I'm offended that GJ keeps referring to that thing as British, just because it was made , but rightfully rejected, here.🙄

[@HughesEnterprises]

That fireplace is giving me Bergmann flashbacks...

[@lordDenis16]

I would like to point out that I looks a lot like a Browning M1922

[@Ni999]

Good eye! I saw the thumbnail and immediately thought it was a Browning but I couldn't quite place it. Too bad this one didn't work out, I like the lines.

[@lordDenis16]

@@Ni999 I agree, its a shame. But it also makes sense why the Poles would have went for the Browning-esk design. The pistols were very popular in Poland since 1910s, and into the 1930s.

[@Ni999]

@@lordDenis16 With the popularity of the FN 1910, I'd have made the same decision, or would have been easily influenced by it, same result either way.

[@mikehemphill2173]

I love hearing about the failures of firearms manufacturing. It really makes me wonder how it is that there are only a handful of different designs that work well and consistently. I always wondered d why there isn't more variation on firearms mechanics, and I'm never let down by the failures.

[@den2k885]

If it was the 8 bit guy he would have dremelled the heck out of it to disassemble.

[@thefez-cat]

"I have no idea what this thing is and it may be unique." ~promptly blows it up with a paperclip~

[@den2k885]

@@thefez-cat it seemed appropriate at the time.

[@thefez-cat]

@@den2k885 One of the most frustrating videos I think I've ever watched!

[@den2k885]

@@thefez-cat painful to watch, he looked like a total noob, not even Goofy in the old cartoons was *that* terrible. He seems a decent enough chap and he has abilities, so it really drove me mad seeing that absolute flustercuck.

[@RWieladek]

Indeed, haha, and that one was also kida prototype. Looks like we're subscribed to the same channels ;)

[@ukaszwalczak1154]

Fun fact, there's a prototype Polish SMG in 7.62 Tokarev, that was basically a simplified PPS-43, named the 'AJ-56', meaning 'Automat Jurka 1956', which is really weird considering the classification for Polish SMGs is 'PM', and Automatic rifles weren't really given a designation as such, mainly just being called 'AK', or 'Kałach'.

[@warriorson7979]

You could say the manufacturer's image was TARNished by this model...😏

[@Kameth]

I promise you the first draft of the testing report was a single line: "It's a just a bit crap all round."

[@unpopularopinion5809]

What in Tarnation?

[@caeserromero3013]

Some forgotten weapons are forgotten for good reason...

[@5oclock_Charlie]

Guess that gun was tarnished fresh off the line eh?

[@sebathadah1559]

You beat me to it.

[@Hellhound23691]

I hate you for making laugh at that pun.

[@pierluigiadreani2440]

You know its bad when Ian doesn't disassemble it.

[@tiborkovacs-vass1327]

The full-size pistol "Tarn". Along with the smaller "Flecktarn" and the slim version "Strichtarn".

[@notCicero]

Also, the "Tarnnetz" Version, wich leaves out every bit of material which isn't needed for function.

[@davehopkin9502]

You should have a playlist called "Best Forgotten Weapons".....

[@UnderTrack_]

1:50 there's a river called "Tarn" in France but I doubt it has any link to it but who knows maybe it's related

[@yassin2471]

they probably meant something more of "what in tarnation"

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian .

[@devinspeers3382]

Why the Elbonians never issued these is beyond me.

[@andrewgwilliam4831]

Didn't meet their QA!

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

Would love to see a research centre not only replicate these old guns to test out but also make well executed examples just to see if the design itself was any good