Former Boeing Manager Walks Off Flight After Realizing It Was A 737 MAX 9

While the world was in shock seeing the door of an Alaska Airlines 737 MAX blowout mid-flight earlier this year, an ex-Boeing senior manager had already determined beforehand that he would never step foot on the family of aircraft again. With a keen sense of the issues surrounding the aircraft type, Ed Pierson said that he walked off an Alaska flight in 2023 after discovering it was operated by a 737 MAX 9.
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[@hilman94]

1990's : if it ain't boeing, i ain't going 2020's : if it's boeing, i ain't going

[@aycc-nbh7289]

And what about times where equipment changes or cancellations happen and passengers are forced onto Boeing planes?

[@basicdoodle]

How the turn tables indeed 😞

[@sealand000]

The plane could go boing boing.

[@raaspider]

Bus or train time if possible@@aycc-nbh7289

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

@@aycc-nbh7289 They have no right to kidnap you.

[@peternguyen3704]

Rip John Barnett

[@gregculverwell]

Pierson needs to watch his back otherwise he will be the next one to feel extremely depressed.

[@Liberty2358]

Barnett the lying fake expert who has little or no airplane building experience.

[@hanfo420]

„self induced“ of course

[@johnsheppard314]

no way in hell that was suicide. I don't buy it. he was murdered, cos he knew too much.

[@alexlowe2054]

John Barnett didn't kill himself.

[@bill5982]

This guy knows the plane and knows the quality control issues at Boeing. If says the plane is unsafe, I would recommend listening to him.

[@rocistone6570]

That would require too much good sense,

[@kristensorensen2219]

😂😂😤🤣🤣🤔🌰s!

[@thalesnemo2841]

Hear,hear!

[@penultimateh766]

Wrong. Publicity stunt. How many 737s are flying and how many have had incidents?

[@_Coffee4Closers]

@@penultimateh766 Exactly... this clown could not even identify the plane without reading the seat back brochure... he clearly is no Engineer, and does not deal with the plane type in any capacity.

[@nzsaltflatsracer8054]

His action speaks volumes on the Max series.

[@Liberty2358]

Pierson was fired for casue and he was wrong for blaming MCAS issue with factory overtime. These are separate issues and are not related in any way.

[@PInk77W1]

0 max fatalities in USA Mexico Canada So America’s Cent. America Europe India China Australia

[@dr.woozie7500]

@@PInk77W1 It doesn't matter. 346 people dead in two separate crashes with the MAX, the cause is Boeing's faulty systems and they are entirely to blame.

[@rosskania5606]

@@PInk77W1so does the souls who lost their lives in aisa and africa not matter to you?

[@PInk77W1]

@@dr.woozie7500 Who oversees Boeing and proclaimed and certified the max to be safe

[@salomonix]

will you guys cover the Boeing whistleblower found dead? suspicious to say the least.

[@Anurania]

Boeing has also banned its employees from talking about how bad things are and is actively trawling social media to identify anyone who is breaking that rule.

[@user-tr8fs7lm8r]

In fairness he was not in the greatest of health.

[@VivaLaDirt]

@@user-tr8fs7lm8rbots attacking already😂

[@sonyboybluespower]

Yeah gun shots arent very healthy aye​@@user-tr8fs7lm8r

[@YukariAkiyama]

@@user-tr8fs7lm8rYea, people who die via gunshot are typically not very healthy, because they’re dead

[@CRTLALTBACKSPACE]

Ed Pierson is not suicidal

[@clickbaitpolice1750]

Oh stop with the conspiracy theories already. There’s no way this guy was murdered. If they wanted to kill him they’d have done it years ago.

[@nickjw88]

Neither was John Barnet.

[@eys-yt]

😂😂😂

[@IARRCSim]

If he isn't careful, the police will find him somewhere and claim he was.

[@gokuldastvm]

What about the rest of the passengers?

[@mfaizsyahmi]

Really praying that Pierson won't suddenly become suicidal 🙏‍🙏‍ RIP John "He Didn't Kill Himself" Barnett

[@herbertie4685]

😮😮😅😅⁶6666⁶5🎉3

[@khoi83]

Take care Ed Pierson, don't be the next ...

[@CheveraChino]

He will be the next

[@pete5668]

If I were him, I would be hiring someone to start the car in the morning.

[@clickbaitpolice1750]

Oh stop with the conspiracy theories already. There’s no way this guy was murdered. If they wanted to kill him they’d have done it years ago.

[@janinegrosenick]

My thought exactly.

[@andresciahooten9598]

I was thinking the same thing

[@scpatl4now]

When Boeing merged with McDonnell Douglas, it was MD that ended up running things and their culture was much different than Boeing's. They were more into cost cutting and getting product out quickly. The old Boeing engineers were much more focused on quality and safety. That Boeing culture is gone now.

[@edwardrichardson5567]

Facts

[@richardnixon8795]

Please please explain the 737 PCU issue. Just askin'. :)

[@scpatl4now]

@@richardnixon8795Frank Shrontz who ran Boeing from 1986-1996 started the culture change .Assuming leadership just before the Berlin Wall fell, Shrontz aggressively acquired companies like Rockwell and McDonnell Douglas to consolidate Boeing's defense and aviation dominance. Though later criticized for emphasizing short-term profits over design at the expense of longer-term issues, Shrontz diversified Boeing for the globalized 1990s while delivering steady gains before passing the reins in 1996. This was where things started going south in 1986, five years before the 737 PCU issue

[@johnweber6612]

Quit blaming everything on the merger.

[@scpatl4now]

@@johnweber6612Why? It was what caused many of the problems they have now

[@PrincePorter]

When you trade engineers for the bean counters

[@sirensynapse5603]

Wow, how original. I only hear that 56 times per boeing video.

[@weldonyoung1013]

Bean connter !

[@alphastratus6623]

@@sirensynapse5603 It's still true.

[@lilstubthumb]

And then you pick those bean counters based on diversity instead of qualifications.

[@Will777X]

I highly admire Ed Pierson for his bravery and advocacy against Boeing’s fiasco over safety and quality of product.

[@christopherkozal7987]

You do? he’s so brave for coming out after the Max crashes & when quality lapses started to become more public. So brave! No, it’s convenient now to trash Boeing & he makes money of of it.

[@everyhandletaken]

@@christopherkozal7987 makes money through his... non-profit ?

[@MobileDecay]

I hope he wasn't murdered too. 😬

[@PetrolHeadBrasil]

I worked for 11 years in aviation, 6 years with Boeing 737-300/700/800 and 767-200/300. I was always PROUD to have worked with them! Today, I don't travel by Boeing even if it's free...

[@edofluit6568]

I think this kinda irrational.. like you still travel by car I assume? which is way more dangerous. even more so then any boeing. so if you dont want to travel by boeing why still with other modes of transport that are STATISTICALLY more dangerous? genuine question

[@somethingsomething404]

I still trust the 737, even the MAX 8 seems okay.

[@pmullins1495]

You missed the point about CURRENT unsafe manufacturing practices & absence of adequate Quality Cintrol program (both super important. NOT about overall flying facets statistics. It's specifically about the "B737 MAX-9."

[@edofluit6568]

@@pmullins1495 and you missed my point that was about him not wanting to travel with boeing at all.

[@MrDrimtim]

What about 777-200LR , 777-300ER?

[@patriottothecore6215]

How long before they stop printing that it’s a Max on the safety cards?

[@unr3alGaming]

You should be able to look at the engines and tell if it's a MAX pretty quickly.

[@EpicierVeneneux0]

You should check Ryanair's Boeing 737-8200.

[@aalaptube]

You can't do that. The safety protocols and documentation are tightly linked to the aircraft model.

[@jonathanr1788]

At Ryanair they call those "gamechangers" instead of max. Safety card says" 737-8200

[@Deex26252]

@@aalaptubethey already changed the name. Or tried to at least. Google it.

[@tiernankeane5643]

“If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going”

[@mohwybar5832]

That’s not even what he was saying

[@nightcoregirlprinzeugen7234]

The problem is not with Boeing. Modern aircraft rely too much on electronics that are prone to malfunctioning and failure when exposed to electromagnetic pulses originating from seismic events. These types of incidents will increase exponentially in the upcoming days.

[@gdwnet]

@@nightcoregirlprinzeugen7234 Absolute rubbish. Airbus work just fine. ATR 72-600 work just fine. ERJ's work just fine. Tell me something - which electronics went mental that caused the plug door to blow out?

[@nightcoregirlprinzeugen7234]

​@@gdwnetWhat do you think is causing all of the military helicopters, aircraft and private airplanes to crash in the United States? How about the F-35 stealth fighter that literally flew on its own for several miles after its pilot ejected? All types of modern aircraft regardless of the manufacturer are prone to malfunctioning upon exposure to electromagnetic pulses originating from seismic events.

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

​@@nightcoregirlprinzeugen7234The thing is, for the 737 MAX, it's different. The first version of the MCAS only got information from one AoA sensor, meaning if that sensor failed, the MCAS would still use the faulty information. Also it would repeatedly push the nose down, and wasn't able to be overridden easily. Lastly, Boeing didn't tell anyone about its existence.

[@ValerieGriner]

He'd better watch his back. RIP, John Barnett.

[@Geoff31818]

And that tells you everything you need to know

[@joeschmoe21]

Lufthansa ordered 100 Max 9s in November. Unlike 'experts' on KZbin, Lufthansa engineers know the science and love the plane so much that they ordered 100, first time they ordered 737 in 30 years. It is legal to spread information on KZbin. It is naïve to believe them.

[@FrozenDung]

Airbus A319/320 for short huals for me I wanna live

[@Phlegethon]

RIP John There needs to be more whileblowers

[@ionikre]

My boy Pierson are going to get self inflicted injuries 🏃🏃🏃

[@alabama1413]

I agree with Ed Pierson & actively avoid any airline using the Max at all. I’ve done this since the two tragedies & nothing has changed my mind on the overall safety of that specific variant. I will only fly the NG variant of the 737, otherwise it’s Airbus for me.

[@OmiSagaAviation22036]

W

[@GeoStreber]

I'm also fine with flying the 737 Classic.

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

Good to know you're flying the other 737 variants

[@joeschmoe21]

Lufthansa ordered 100 Max 9s in November. Unlike 'experts' on KZbin, Lufthansa engineers know the science and love the plane so much that they ordered 100, first time they ordered 737 in 30 years. It is legal to spread information on KZbin. It is naïve to believe them.

[@christerry1773]

That’ll teach them

[@commonsense5741]

Last guy to say something isn't here anymore.

[@geerdjacobs6484]

He should hire bodyguards immediately!

[@everTriumph]

There is nothing like confidence in the product you helped to build.

[@hugochan2821]

Before the door flew off, when people warn you about something bad about newly built Boeing planes, people call them conspiracy. When something really happen on the plane, people call this unexpected and unprecedented events. This is how things go. Companies and governments can brush off all negative opinions about their companies or their government, and when things come out true, they can say they they did not expect this from happening at all.

[@TheInsultInvestor]

people are evil. mostly

[@phantagirlable]

More like before the two Max planes crashed and killed 350 people but you are correct.

[@icarus313]

The concept you're describing here is often called "plausible deniability" and it's the tried-and-true method that shady companies and governments use to break rules without being punished. Happens all the time and now Boeing's doing it too. 😒

[@sjv9147s]

He knows and doesn't need to risk his life.

[@damncars2618]

"What do you know about the Max?". He was being set up by the airline. I would want off too.

[@beatsbysavaun]

They probably genuinely rigged it, to crash or explode with hopes that HE WOULD BE ON IT 😮

[@johnhadley7715]

Smart man. Also, alive.

[@satriojumeneng7055]

This is what will happen if the top management oppresses the middle and lower management to meet their target.

[@adityakapoor8055]

I also decided in 2019 that I would never, ever fly on the MAX again. I revisited this decision in 2022, 1yr+ after the MAX had started flying again. And I found very little info on the issues the FAA found at Boeing and what changes had been prescribed. And so I stuck to my decision, and boy I'm glad I did

[@dillonrohe4988]

"Quality be damned - keep those stock prices up!"

[@wetbadger2]

Ford, GM, etc

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

their stock price already crashed.

[@Ice_Karma]

@@thewhitefalcon8539 The comment was about the past leading up to recent events, not _now._

[@jameskilrain9350]

Keep their planes up.

[@richardcallihan9746]

Nikkei Haley, what did you do to Boeing?

[@Quasihamster]

Smart choice, but they can also get you in your car, apparently.

[@Salty-Crackers]

😁

[@wetbadger2]

Angela Chao?

[@pmullins1495]

Your car's master- computers are hackable by assassins (Remotely controllable; so are Boeing aircraft autopilots). It's proven repeatedly.

[@user-gl9iz1bp1r]

Awareness is critical. Awareness buys time, time buys options - until it doesn't.

[@craigford4641]

This Man should watch his every next step ! Mysterious death,s will curiously begin ! 😢😢

[@benwilson6145]

Boeing copying Putin

[@donpierce4829]

Well if Hillary was involved I would agree!!

[@kimberlywoodbury1739]

@@donpierce4829Why the heck are you still blathering about Hillary?

[@tomstamford6837]

@@kimberlywoodbury1739 Stupidity, what else!

[@johnsheppard314]

@@kimberlywoodbury1739MAGAts, not the greatest brain power around.

[@seanarmstrong8255]

I wonder how many glitches and flaws have been covered up and will rear their heads over the coming years.

[@dannmm6745]

I have been avoiding the Max since 2019… and I will continue doing so.

[@sharonshoop495]

Good!!!!Don't fly any other Boeing planes either. Hater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@1968konrad]

Its for sure every passengers right 1) to get the correct information about the aircraft type when enterding the aircraft and 2) to leave the aircraft free of charge if the information wasnt correct

[@carinakaron8068]

John Barnett did not kill himself

[@benyomovod6904]

Kayak allows you to exclude special types. Passengers shall pressure airlines by avoid booking the plane and avoid airlines that use it

[@aycc-nbh7289]

But last-minute equipment changes and cancellations could take this control out of passenger hands.

[@johnsheppard314]

@@aycc-nbh7289memorize what the max planes look like, and refuse to board the flight. you have that right.

[@sharonshoop495]

. Before you boycott you better look at all they make!!!

[@MrJckpttsn]

That the former manager of Boing won't fly Boing speaks volumes.

[@anoopkvpoduval]

I found that missing Max door plug. It's on Simple Flying channel's logo 😊

[@rollvideo]

This is absolutely no surprise.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

What about the stuck rudder on landing the other day on the 737 max?

[@uditabhattacharya2824]

DETAILS PLSS

[@gordonbergslien30]

This is far more concerning than the blown door plug. There have been several mishaps linked to rudder failures in earlier 737variants.

[@RichardMigneron]

Well, that solves the question for me : never flew the Max yet, won't fly it in the future either !

[@aycc-nbh7289]

It is among the safest of planes to fly due to the increased safety standards.

[@fofopads4450]

@@aycc-nbh7289 yeah I am sure the parts fished out of the thrash are top quality.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

@@fofopads4450Is this not uncommon among plane manufacturers?

[@TheKinni80]

People like Pierson are rare who took the behemoth Boeing headon. Kudos to you and I hope you achieve greater success in the initiatives you pick up. Best wishes to you.

[@jonpark6650]

You just said that the Ed Pierson, ex-Boeing senior manager was involved with the Boeing 737 Max but did not go into any of the specifics of why it was unsafe to fly. He has gotten my interest into what he saw what was going on with the Max production and anything else about Boeing quality control.

[@searchanddiscover]

From what I understand it’s only Alaska and United that fly Max 9 in the US right? So just avoiding those 2 would make that altogether easier.

[@bd5av8r1]

Southwest has them too. Ive flown on them and they are just another airplane. :)

[@dr.woozie7500]

@@bd5av8r1 It doesn't matter if it's "just another airplane." Boeing purposely ignored safety concerns to increase profit and the Boeing 737 MAX has its reputation ruined. For many people it's not worth the risk.

[@christerry1773]

No. American, southwest. And it totals up to hundreds of planes and thousands of flights every day. And you won’t avoid them forever, eventually the news will Wear off and it will inconvenience you or cost more money.

[@joshuavanwagoner7039]

No. Southwest does NOT have the MAX-9!

[@christerry1773]

@@joshuavanwagoner7039 they have Max. What’s your point

[@Standswithafistremembers]

I am seriously starting to worry about his safety.

[@napatanakewattanakul925]

The fact that 737 max still sells like hot cake means that airlines care very little about safety when considering about buying new planes

[@user-tj7nb9fu9t]

When passengers start avoiding the plane & going off the plane because it is Boeing than they will care..

[@jessicarobinson4563]

Their locked into contracts if I’m not mistaken, their req to buy x amount

[@abhishekdev258]

​@@jessicarobinson4563nope..they can walk out any moment.

[@stanleybuchan4610]

It's not selling like hot cakes though, is it?

[@lunalady1821]

Hope he does not unlive himself for his info.

[@sailor67duilio27]

Fly airbus planes they are super, safe,comfortable and nothing falls off. I have been flying Airbus planes for the last 20+ years all over Europe and the world.

[@stephencaudle1766]

They have some pretty serious hydraulic issues lately.

[@TheSpawnofthehydra]

That's not what it says on The Aviation Herald. But please, don't go look on that website, I'd hate for you to realize all aircraft manufacturers have issues. lol

[@guangxidavidliu]

Something he knew that general public don't scared him.

[@lancemiller4647]

I admire this Boeing manager -- Sad how quickly people forget things, like how Boeing killed 346 passengers for no other reason Than Greed. HOw anyone can forget / forgive that is shameful...!!!! BTW, if the Alaska flight had been at cruising altitude that flight surly would have added over 150+ passengers /crew to the list that have died flying Boeing these past 5 years!!!!

[@californianorma876]

Stay away from windows in tall buildings 🙏🏽

[@Perich29]

Stay on the lower floor on taller buildings.

[@sempertalis1230]

Smart man!

[@peterdavies1679]

It’s crazy that airlines can just blatantly lie about the aircraft being used for your flight, and get away with it.

[@PaulsAcademyTH]

I would have asked the flight attendant back "what do you know about the Max?"

[@nordicvolkan8589]

Smart man

[@Usuario-vk1le]

remember guys, this man was NOT suicidal

[@TheCoIdestWater]

If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going.

[@johnsheppard314]

¡ni yo tampoco!

[@sharonshoop495]

Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Make sure you keep you word.!!!!

[@nurrizadjatmiko21]

Completely logical by that former manager of Boeing. I can kind of understand what he feels about the 737 MAX. For me, i am curious and wanted to try to get onboard the 737 MAX because i have never flown onboard the MAX. Maybe in the near future.

[@the_expidition427]

Forget logic. Completely rational

[@Mutasis_Mutandis]

The man is very believable.

[@angelofamillionyears4599]

Does the flight listing say 737 max 9 or just 737? thanks

[@CaptBill69]

Yes. I would NOT fly on the 737 Max too 😮

[@jrculbertson7463]

Thanks for the VALUABLE LIFE SAVING TIP!! 👍

[@55nsmooth]

ROFL, some 'manager' - he couldn't figure out what airplane it was until he was on it??

[@jpharaoh4893]

Smart Man

[@mshorton1947]

Good for him!

[@Burzilman]

I hope this gentleman wouldn't find dead in his home 😢

[@cottonwood992000]

Good on him!

[@HotelGuyKarl]

Shortly after the 2 horrific crashes and the grounding of the max I said I’d still fly the max any time because I believed in Boeing. Now it shows that Boeing is not what it was.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

Well, they are being held to higher safety standards and this may mean that their planes will be safer to fly.

[@captscarlet17]

That says it all 😮I will never fly that plane ✈️

[@justsaiyansteve]

The Executives should fly in there own aircraft lol.

[@creativecatalyst777]

Great channel, I've learned so much! Thanks!

[@dioxideuniversal]

This company needs to be nationalized.

[@Hurpdurpdipidydoo]

I don’t blame him, and r.i.p John Barnett.

[@gordonclark7632]

His decision says it all.

[@SA-nv5tc]

Smart move. All passengers should do the same!

[@MrPoornakumar]

Is there any other worse indictment on ("certification" of) Boeing 737Max?

[@carcar78]

He should know!

[@LeiffNathanAMendoza]

Truly important if known has to be avoided indeed

[@dinob8736]

If it ain't Boeing, it ain't blowing.

[@katisugarbaker7349]

I think I’ll be looking for Pearson’s obituary soon.

[@dennismacwilliams196]

Sounds like he knows something

[@laurapierce2822]

Thank you for reporting on this. I also would not choose to fly on the Max.

[@hishamhamed5033]

Boeing has literally kept him grounded.

[@phillair3813]

Good man.

[@kathleennelson6692]

He knows what he is doing

[@geraldammons5520]

I used to like flying Boeing. In the late 90's, they "bought out" MD. Then, they put the MD execs into the highest positions at (the new) Boeing. They then went back to the business model that ran MD into the ground.

[@douginorlando6260]

Afterlife Airlines … once the doors close you can not leave

[@LK-dm7kx]

Trust him. He knows the inside business.

[@kyle6838]

He better watch out they’ll get him next

[@heybudi]

He knew it better than us

[@jfnovae]

When Boeing merged with McDonald Douglas, things changed their goal went from making the best aircraft to making the most profitable aircraft

[@pinecedar180]

Probably lots of Boeing planes in the air right now with defects.

[@jefflu8316]

Boeing = Broke your heart forever

[@r25limousine]

I decided long ago that I won’t fly on it

[@stanvansant4512]

Where is the hotel security camera footage? How many times did he allegedly shoot him self?

[@davefisher1417]

i wonder if two people got sucked out of open door at 16000 feet

[@maxtornogood]

Hmm, I hope Ed Pierson doesn't 'mysteriously' pass away!

[@billepeters03]

He is right

[@leonidas7692]

RIP Ed Pierson