Former Delphi murders suspect made detailed confession to killings, attorneys say

[@Sludge73]

Newly discovered, no. Previously ignored, yes.

[@CuteTexasToads]

Yep

[@raptorman48]

@@Sludge73 It was ignored because there was no proof and therefore just conspiracy theories the defense made up!

[@Zodiac408..]

Absolutely correct 100%

[@Ieezeca]

Well, GULL did say that they could NOT use it- so it doesn't matter either way, does it?

[@NicolaMaxwell]

​@@Ieezeca Gull should be investigated, it's a disgrace what happened in that trial.

[@heytam7162]

Happy to see this case is getting continued coverage. It certainly isn’t over & reeks of bias & corruption.

[@KnuckleheadStuey]

Yup, but I doubt anything will change.

[@April-xs9tk]

@@KnuckleheadStuey I agree, Gull isn’t going to grant anything. Hopefully the appeal will help

[@pamjam2567]

Never was not able to see a court proceedings.

[@raptorman48]

@@heytam7162 Oh it's definitely over!

[@heathernikki5734]

It’s over, I don’t think you understand how it works 😂 judges are very hesitant to undo another judges ruling

[@michaelsmiley15]

Any judge that ignores potential exculpatory evidence should be removed from the bench The fact that the fed performed a search of another house should tell you something

[@DivaDannette]

Yep, Logan was family friends with the newly elected prosecutor and was even let out of his unrelated DOC sentence early, by that newly elected prosecutor that year. There was SO much evidence that Logan bragged to Davis that was "overlooked"/(ignored), the Police weren't trying to arrest him. Also Kegan Kline helped Logan as well. Kline is bragging in DOC right now about how "he got away with it"! He's a sick Pedo as well as an Un-aliver of these 2 innocent girls, and should never get out of prison! Kline is the one that messaged one of the girls online and lured them to those trails, posing as someone else. Why aren't the others facing charges. It was said in the very beginning of this case that one of the suspects involved with this case, had "connections in high places, or was related to someone in high places" and that's why it took 5+ years to solve. Now we know who and who his connection was.

[@JoelleevansWI]

Should be in jail I think

[@DallasJustin]

LOOOOONGGG before they ever even thought about searching Mr. Allen’s home.

[@margaretlee-reed814]

Several houses ... And, several they should have searched but never did!? Have no problem with the search at RA's house had there been probable cause ... as of yet no probable cause sufficiently explained.

[@JoelleevansWI]

Anyone else would be locked up

[@cathyaldridge4550]

And that's the problem here. Why is it "unclear" what the FBI concluded about Ron Logan? Why?

[@raptorman48]

The only problem I see is they keep coming up with conspiracy theories on people who had an alibi and there was no evidence to link them and they are not the bridge guy because that is Richard Allen and it's his voice telling them girls to go down the hill so it's pretty insane when the evidence was clear enough for an entire jury to see he did it!

[@doriangrey9702]

The local police shut down the FBI investigation.

[@JenHistoryFuzzAdmin]

Corruption in the FBI has soured the agency to the core. They’re breaking Constitutional Rights and it has to stop. They just want convictions, and they don’t care if the people are innocent. That’s disgusting and every “agent” who knew this information yet didn’t do anything about it should be prosecuted and fired without any pension. Absolutely shameful!!

[@cathyaldridge4550]

@@doriangrey9702 Sorry, yes I know. These questions must be asked by the people above Judge Gull.

[@doriangrey9702]

@cathyaldridge4550 Honestly, the FBi needs to be called in. Judge Gull withheld 2 murder confessions from the jury. Shameful disgrace.

[@theparanormalfiles]

they THOROUGHLY botched this case

[@hannahdavidson8499]

Ur video on the Delphi murders convinced me it was Ron he was connected with the Odinist group. Also since it was on his property Ron and the others would have had the time to stage the ritual. You should make an updated video!

[@gabrielc91-sur]

To busy chasing dope dealers

[@sharonkelly4224]

@@hannahdavidson8499 which video was that do you remember? How long ago did they post it? Thanks!

[@ryanshaw2222]

Did you see the guy making that claim?

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

A jailhouse snitch making up a confession is NOT evidence!

[@MissingPersonsMysteries]

One of the frightening aspects of this case is how many people were suspected or rumored to have done this in such a small area. Just proves there are predators EVERYWHERE! Keep your children safe and ALWAYS be on alert!

[@ginmar8134]

Most predators are in the family or are known to the family. The victims are NOT believed. Stop kidding yourself. If these little girls were alive, and accused somebody you cared about, it would be like all those southern churches where they make the _victim_ apologize and forgive the attacker. False confessions are common and detailed. They are common and the only thing that excludes them is DNA.

[@WarriorBlood777]

Does it really prove that? Or could it prove the classical witch hunt mass psychosis? That anyone can become suspicious because of stories? Just keep it at evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Based on 100% truthful sources, backed up by it. DNA for example (hard in this case btw). And even then in anyway or how, sooner or later, but thats my opinion, judgment day will come, because 10 out of 10 people die, so the killer(s) either way will be judged by God! "as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment".

[@AyeJayee]

True, although some of it is because everyone is hurt and they want justice and answers people start pointing fingers and coming up with their theories, I feel like this case was botched so early on sadly, I hope we get an answer some day. Been following this case for years now, I’m afraid it’ll be many more before we hear the truth beyond a reasonable doubt

[@HaveASammieDay]

Living in the area, a lot of the people they accused simply for being men who had some sort of connection to the girls. There is so much that was kept from the public that the secrecy led to a lot of allegations and conspiracies. I've heard everything from it was one of the girls dads trying to dodge child support, to it was the sheriff and the mayor who done it. The community of Delphi was shattered by the murder of those girls, and the way the case was handled. It's not much of a community anymore.

[@bobheyotue9850]

Man I have been saying that since they booked richard and the other dude, sure they probably didn't kill the girls but they sure as hell have a bunch of Cheese Pizzeria's in that town the county just allows it to happen.

[@sethwaggoner6497]

Any judge who bans attorneys from offering secondary suspects or evidence to the contrary of their preconceived belief of the guilt of the suspect, should be DISBARRED! Every judge should seek the TRUTH in each case not "possibilities."

[@HesperianHorsePower]

Bullshit! If that were the case all kinds of fantastical what if’s would slow the courts down even more than they are. This guys was looked at hard by police and FBI. Just because some jailhouse felon “swears” on a confession he himself wrote doesn’t make it fact. Nothing but here say.

[@eddiehayes5608]

Amen

[@ginmar8134]

This is a scummy tactic by the defense attorneys.

[@ZachEvans-q8b]

Oh u mean the absurd theory that a group of odonists were the murderers. 🤣🤣🤣!!!!! That is the dumbest most ridiculous theory I’ve ever heard in my entire life! You people are seriously delusional and need help if you believe that asinine fantasy land theory

[@Kk04235]

@@ginmar8134u obviously haven't been paying attention

[@scottishwoman8237]

That's totally crap, All evidence should be allowed, That's why 2 many innocent people go to prison,

[@planetclay]

you misspelled ALL.....ALL evidence should be allowed. enough of this DARK AGES CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

[@NicolaMaxwell]

Glad to see Scotland is watching!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤

[@i.mDirtyDan]

An inmate saying another inmate confessed is not evidence. Richard Allen's attorneys have no scruples.

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@i.mDirtyDan There was plenty of other suppressed evidence in this case, that was not presented. I'm Scottish and care that Americans have their constitutional rights upheld.

[@planetclay]

@@i.mDirtyDan yeah but you can always trust a lawyer-prosecutor who insists on a closed hearing...and yeah i bet ya Dirty pk-asse love some dirty cops too.

[@samanthaquant7411]

And the juror who just did an interview said what finally convinced her to say he was guilty was “well, who else could it have been? He was there” or something to that effect. Ron Logan. Ron is who it could have been.

[@sonofhibbs4425]

Everyone with sense has been saying this ALL ALONG. This is so sickening.

[@GWorksGrow]

That’s dumb af. Did she not know about the DNA evidence I mean I know stuff was held from them so but it’s like that’s a no bridge though everybody could be on it.

[@vinny1883]

There are multiple people it could have been and the judge barred all evidence that didn't tie to RA. Absurdity.

[@lisam0395]

No she didn’t. “Something to that effect”. Go listen again with both ears

[@Lady_Monet]

Ron Logan didn't go to police and put himself in that bridge and confess 61 times! RL was throughly investigated. Easy to blame a deadman 8 years later!

[@Lez_awake]

Judge Gull, the world is watching

[@AMYV3]

the most corrupt judge in the 🇺🇸 even more so then Judge Bev and that says something. now that we get more info about our 🇺🇸 legal system. imagine all of the innocent people in prison terrifying

[@Trish.Norman]

They need to watch that prosecutor.

[@cannibalcupcake2.0]

And not doing anything.

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@@cannibalcupcake2.0 The defence team are.

[@fourofcats5803]

Can we not call her a judge? Surely she’s shown that she’s anything but impartial, which is integral to the post

[@mflee6590]

Police and prosecution knowlingly presented a fake timeline, that should make us all extremely nervous.

[@DivaDannette]

Exactly

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

And.. poor Sandra Birchmore...

[@azulgaia7782]

There was plenty of reasonable doubt. RA was tortured into psychosis, showed all the shockingly graphic pictures, and created the memory while psychotic.

[@ThriveCollective1188]

Exactly my summation too.

[@blue_moon6490]

Psychosis is very real when you are innocent and being destroyed.

[@LilyfromUruguay]

Those are my thoughts, too!!!

[@hfrt29]

100%!!!

[@justsamantha1833]

Lies! That's what his defense wants you to believe

[@JGAbstract]

No idea of allen is innocent, all I know is he is in prison because jurors "felt" like he did it rather than the police having factual proof he did it. I can't stand that.

[@eustab.anas-mann9510]

It was painfully obvious it was never RA.

[@CuteTexasToads]

Richard Allen could not have committed the murders. He wasn't there when they died.

[@MegaAppl3]

I think the proof was the video. I really want to know if he sounds like the video. If it wasn't RA he would be talking and saying that isn't my voice also.

[@raptorman48]

@@JGAbstract Because the jury seen evidence that you did not!

[@Precosint]

@@MegaAppl3he did in fact say that in his interview with Holeman on 10.26.23.

[@NeedToKnow1947]

I am still struggling to understand how such a biased judge and sheriff could do this. We know Richard Allen did not receive justice and that means Libby and Abigail didn’t either.

[@glee21012]

First time watching a trial in the United States?

[@eddiehayes5608]

Yes I believe Ron Logan was the killer

[@ZachEvans-q8b]

Your delusional if u actually believe Allen is innocent

[@ZachEvans-q8b]

@@eddiehayes5608 OMG! Give me a fuckin break!

[@truesoulghost2777]

@@ZachEvans-q8bsame. I still really think it points to Allen BUT maybe they both did it. I mean most of the time for this case people have thought that it was two.

[@lealovesthesea]

Always thought it was Logan. A man’s life has methodically been destroyed and those girls are not getting justice. Gull should be investigated, disbarred, and face legal consequences. Not enough oversight on judges, and at the least too much unbridled discretion.

[@greenmanalishi6963]

They’ve known this whole time.. ask urself why

[@kelseywilliams5002]

Bro the same gun casings to Allen’s gun where found at the scene and they dug up the jacket he was wearing in his yard

[@lilyrrichard236]

I've also always thought Logan was the bridge guy. Wonder why the local LE covered for him....

[@rw6046]

@@kelseywilliams5002 It took the ballistics expert 10 tries to get evidence "Close enough" in her words to match the gun. She also couldn't rule out three other guns tested and refused to show her video documentation to the jury after they requested to see it. And in his 'confession' RA says he did something to his gun on the bridge and that must be how the cartridge got to the crime scene, which is 500+ feet away from the bridge. That's one hell of an extractor mechanism. I wouldn't want to be holding that gun when I chamber a round. And his jackets were hanging in his closet for all the world to see, not dug up in his yard. Jackets which by the way probably 75% of the men of a certain age in rural Indiana own. I have one in navy blue and one in tan. I could be the guy Sarah Carbaugh saw on the road in a tan or blue jacket.

[@christinametal1071]

Remember RL called his sister after to establish a faux alibi before Abby and Libby were even discovered.

[@cynthiacordell4639]

Judge Gull and Judge Beverly Cannone both went to the same judge school. It's called the " it's my courtroom and i do what i want even if it's wrong " school.

[@djomlatebra]

You can tell, they`re not from Letcher county, KY.

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

Exactly

[@kamhutton2673]

Judge Gull and the entire Carrol county LEO, the whole world is watching….

[@Ian-fi7dt]

Judge Gull is an Allen county Judge , the trial was moved counties.

[@pearreemason1179]

This ain’t over. Rick was railroaded. I pray for the families, I doubt the mothers were told any of this beforehand. Justice for Rick, & real Justice for Abby & Libby

[@raptorman48]

Rick is guilty and yes it's over!

[@MartianManHunter_]

@@raptorman48 all that blood and none of it was ever found on his clothes or in his car. Friggin magical

[@sebfettel]

​@raptorman48 the only people who think Rick is guilty are people who are corrupt, or people who don't know anything at all about the case.

[@sebfettel]

Some of the family members are hiding something, they know the truth

[@anonone8954]

The Delphi police department dropped the ball this from the beginning. Bridge guys' height can be easily calculated by the crossties. This is ludicrous.

[@moodyblues-79]

This judge should be fired and arrested.

[@lss2706]

Richard Allen has been so mind bent and confused he won’t ever be the same! This has ruined his life. While the girls lost their lives to the land owner, he lost so much from this too!

[@Aussiem8e]

Yep! Fran gull didn't let anything in that would show that RA was innocent! All because carter couldn't find the right person, RA isn't even tall enough to be bridge guy,RL certainly is.

[@JL-zn7me]

Gull is disgustingly evil! She knew and LE knew Richard Allen is innocent! They needed to close this case… but why protect Ron Logan?! So much corruption in Delphi!

[@rachelpickens6025]

Yup been saying it's him.. but he died so next the patsy

[@malloryknox6802]

RL was already dead for 2 years when Allen got arrested, so what's the point of "protecting" a dead guy when they could just say he did it and close the case without even needing to have a trial?

[@malloryknox6802]

​@@rachelpickens6025it'd be easier to blame a dead guy, use your brain

[@amyvilla5292]

Cause there was more people involved

[@possumfriend2335]

Please don't let the public forget or miss the tidbit that "volunteer" Kathy Shanks who allegedly "found a mis-filed tip" that Richard Allen called in to investigators himself at the time has ALSO made statements about what an upstanding man Ron Logan is, and used the phrase "honor bound" to describe her loyalty to him! Her daughter also spoke out on X about this and has nothing but glowing things to say about Ron Logan. Fifteen people called into the tipline to report Ron Logan for various reasons, including one exwho said she recognized him as Bridge Guy, and that he was violent and cruel and sexually deviant. His alibi does not clear him by the states pwn timline of the abduction and murders. He had a trunk full of women's underthings when his house was searched weeks later, but he had plenty of time to get rid of evidence from the girls.

[@FifiJustice-pd8tf]

A ex girlfriend spoke on tv to swear it was logan's word all the time : Down the hill! She recognised his voice! We have all seen this video recording when she said it! Yet Gull hided it all. Richard Allen is innocent for God sake!!!!

[@danielleortega3194]

In his confession he said he burned his clothes boots and bag. Ricci even said he knew the location of the burn pile but I doubt that was ever checked out.

[@malloryknox6802]

Are you implying Richard never talked to Dan Dulin? Why didn't his lawyers ever deny that interview happened then?

[@danielleortega3194]

@@malloryknox6802 are you responding to the correct conversation?

[@malloryknox6802]

​@@danielleortega3194read the main comment again, over and over, until you understand what I'm talking about

[@H.Michele]

The State’s timeline does not match any of the evidence. How none of the juror’s caught this is mind boggling. Many of us have been saying Rick is innocent the whole time.

[@April-xs9tk]

@@H.Michele I agree! However, this point should have been pointed out over and over by the defense during the trial then!!

[@beachfly8066]

@@April-xs9tkdefence was muzzled

[@edmondgreen7970]

They didn't care. They knew they were voting guilty as soon as they where selected

[@OddStructure76]

​@@April-xs9tkit was. Their job was impossible with the restrictions Gull put on them. And at least 4 state witnesses lied. So....

[@April-xs9tk]

@@OddStructure76 I agree, Gull made this trial impossible to have any different outcome. Unfortunately, this pleading is in front of Gull as well and she will turn it all down. The entire judicial system there is broken. It is disgusting

[@Alison_Diane]

This is really disturbing.

[@mindiw2699]

About time msm starts reporting how this case and trial has been horrendously botched.

[@marthahendricks9529]

They look out for the state actors not the citizens

[@Nigelsmom2136]

The MSM isn't interested in truth.

[@michellejames5953]

So Richard Allen admitting to killing the girls 52 times wasn’t enough for you? You’d rather believe a convicted criminal

[@Matt_D_370z]

​@@marthahendricks9529 thanks for the populist propaganda.

[@greenmanalishi6963]

Because RA is innocent and the town is doing everything to try n keep him locked up

[@oliviaarcher7201]

Reasonable doubt! Absolutely

[@christyb7455]

Whoa!! That Judge needs investigated😮

[@marthahendricks9529]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKqpiKJvaZainck Underhanded Justice

[@linkjourney422]

The fact that Ron Logan confessed to certain details of the crime that were not made by public such as the box cutter knife should have been presented to the jury. This is reversible error

[@Beezojones]

The state of Indiana has railroaded an innocent man with judge Gull being the leader this whole case was a disgrace to the indiana justice system. A spit in the face to the united states constitution and Richard Allens rights as a citizen here .And a blantant disrespect to the victims Abby and Libby

[@beachfly8066]

Hear hear 👏🏻

[@BILLYRFCNO1]

i know right he confessed just like they say this guy has aswell but hey the guy who was their is Allen its fact

[@iMatti00]

@BILLYRFCNO1- I’m not sure exactly what you’re saying. I wish you would’ve wrote it better. But you do know they have been thousands of wrongly convicted people that have many red flags because they were close by and similar other suspicious Evidence against them. But I guess that doesn’t matter, humans often make up their mind and nothing will change it.

[@lainiemyerslain8011]

And he lied about his alibi and his ex girlfriend called in on him an said that it was him and that was Ron logans voice and he was very abusive but they didn't care they wanted RA

[@NotMee45]

Her sister is guilty AF

[@cherylemaybury9967]

Free Richard Allen. He is innocent. The geofencing proves he was never at the crime scene.

[@Hunteth]

well he was at the trail that day

[@MartianManHunter_]

@@Hunteth so what. There were other people there as well.

[@StillKeepOnLosing]

​@@Hunteth So was others... And not 1 witness described a short fat old man...

[@Hunteth]

@ I still think he did it but I also think Ron Logan was involved you guys like to keep skipping over the facts

[@Hunteth]

@ why would there be DNA in his car that doesn’t mean anything either if they were never put in the car and Allen could have washed his clothes before getting in the car or put them in a bag that doesn’t mean he wasn’t there

[@Guyvermectin]

We told you

[@raptorman48]

This is old news and was ruled out and RA is BG and BG did it and logan had grey hair and didn't look like BG and his voice didn't match the video!

[@Thinkinboutnuthin]

@@raptorman48Richard Allen is an innocent man whose life has been destroyed.

[@teresa8793]

We sure did!! Media is just propaganda, they never investigate, just say what they're told. #Indiana is guilty of covering up the murders, protecting drug traffickers, child predators, child k*llers, and #CrimesAgainsHumanity 🙏🙏🙏 #FreeRickAllen

[@Thais-x7c]

I'm with you I couldn't believe he had after the initial integration

[@michaelmiller836]

One of Logan’s ex-girlfriend’s sore that the audio from Libby’s phone was Logan. She reported it to the police. Nothing ever happened.

[@teresa8793]

Finally #TheWorldIsWatching

[@Theblessing-UL]

💯 ❤️

[@indie1179]

They sure are 🇦🇺

[@CarolElizabeth001]

Oh yes 🇯🇲

[@juniorjohnson5961]

Bigfoot is real also 👣

[@cannibalcupcake2.0]

This is so infuriating. He deserves a new trial. One where Gull is millions of miles away from.

[@t.j.5044]

One of two things could be true here. Either Logan gave Davis the information, or Davis already had the info and used the opportunity to frame Logan. All that's known for fact here is Davis gave police details of the murder. Other than his word, there's no evidence showing where he got those details from. It would be nice to see how the police ruled them both out.

[@Precosint]

Good thinking, I haven’t seen many questioning that yet. Davis was incarcerated BEFORE the murders, so there wouldn’t be any easy way for him to know this (unless LE fed him the info). Also important to note: James Haas was Logan’s cell mate and he had some very strange info to share about Ron Logan. Info that corroborates what Davis tipped in. Also- the 3.11.17 FBI search warrant for RL’s property says that RL’s phone showed up in the geofence info as being at the crime scene right around the time that LG’s phone showed a headphone unplugged. Were they able to exclude Logan as a DNA contributor?

[@holyspirit-u5v]

@@t.j.5044 Ricci Davis is from Huntingdon not Delphi had no previous or post connection to Logan. This was submitted to the tip line and followed up in May 2017. Ricci was incarcerated at the time of the murders and absolutely nowhere not even the ME reports mention BOXCUTTER. The health data matches the walk described. Animal hairs were collected from clothing at the crime scene. The detail of the wounds was unknown there was some speculation about neck injury post funeral not sure if it was online or if he would have access. The fact he thought he had got blood on LG is the most logical explanation as to why LG was naked and why her wounds were worse. The area with the animal bones exists and was seen by searchers along with rtv tracks. This would fit with him looking for somewhere to move the girls. Geofencing captured his phone in the crime scene area very late/early 13/14 I can't remember the exact time.

[@Ieezeca]

Aldo, Davis asked for nothing in return.

[@alia9087]

I did hear, sorry, can't remember where, that a search was done on his property immediately after without the correct paperwork so nothing found could be used - fruit of the poisonous tree. When the search was carried out 2 weeks later with the correct paperwork RL had had time to clean things up

[@SmokesLetsGoBud]

@@alia9087 Did they find anything during the first search?

[@holyspirit-u5v]

RL talk of animals and then animal hairs taken from the crime scene. If the prosecution wants me to believe Richard Allen's confessions with no specific details or context whilst in active psychosis I'm going to believe Ron Logan's more given nobody mentioned a boxcutter not even the ME as testified to at trial "it just came to him" It's logical and fits the actual handpicked evidence by the state that was allowed at trial and gives a clear explaination as to why LG was more brutal. The state can't have it both ways wanting people to believe their theory/evidence apply to Richard Allen but that exact same evidence 7years earlier doesn't apply to Ron Logan. Kathy Shank needs to be questioned aswell no wonder she gave the money away.

[@Precosint]

Shank is just another brick in the wall

[@devonremy6581]

@Precosint A useful idiot.

[@danielleortega3194]

I don’t know what stake Judge Gull had in this case, but she made herself the most hated judge of this time. I don’t even see how see can still be on the bench because none of her ruling can be trusted now. She showed her potential in this case and it’s not good.

[@islesofshoals3551]

I don't know how she goes out in public

[@vedha0]

This is stupidest prosecution ever or the town of delphi made a huge profit from the case. The judge is so open about the bais and corruption.

[@SarahNGeti]

I always had a weird feeling how they had no leads but then suddenly out of nowhere found this guy. I didn't follow the case but it just seemed too convenient. Like a sixth sense.

[@Ian-fi7dt]

She is not a Delphi judge. They moved the trial to a new venue to minimize juror bias.

[@phantom6715]

Judge Gull the world is watching.

[@Stumane]

This is crazy 😮

[@raptorman48]

@@Stumane The only thing crazy is people trying to free a child pedophile murderer!

[@alia9087]

@@raptorman48 explain away the multiple different DNA found on the bodies???? None of which could be matched to RA

[@raptorman48]

@alia9087 One DNA was her sisters DNA because she had her sisters sweater on! They didn't get good DNA of RA but he knew about that white van and only the killer could have known that so you see connect the dots too many coincidences for it to be just a coincidence on everything he was on video and his voice matched telling them girls to go down the hill and the unspent bullet matched his gun and he confessed multiple times and there is no odin cult in delphi and nobody forced his confessions it's a load of crap what the defense is trying to do and create conspiracy theories with no facts or evidence and I see right through it!

[@amandamich3lle10]

So you arrested an innocent man and publicly humiliated him. This is disturbing

[@kittyct1829]

Let's not forget 13 months of torture.

[@GrammyTammy13]

HAPPENS ALL THE TIME UNFORTUNATELY

[@sealion4memarsh504]

This has not been proven.

[@sonofhibbs4425]

@@sealion4memarsh504 anyone with a BRAIN has been saying this fir a long time. Allen is not guilty.

[@sharileighretsof4790]

And it can happen to any of us!!!

[@indigo278]

Should of listened and respected the FBI

[@katelinwoodward282]

The simple fact is is all of this should have been allowed to be mentioned at court for angle is a shading and she's in cahoots with all the other shady characters that are covering up this awful crime for God only knows why Ron Logan should have been allowed to be discussed at the hearing and she says

[@ladytiff3610]

I said the Judge should have been removed from the beginning.... Allen was never guilty he was just the fall guy... this is ridiculous

[@todddale7041]

Allen is the scapegoat…

[@grouchyoleguy]

Ive never believed that Richard Allen was guilty , really have to question his conviction with everything that's coming out

[@raptorman48]

@@grouchyoleguy Oh so you don't believe his own statement and confessions and the fact he was caught on video and his voice matched and looks matched and the fact that bullet found matched his gun and the fact he seen the white van only the killer could known about like seriously do you even know the facts in the case??? Thank God the jury had a brain!

[@grouchyoleguy]

@raptorman48 no I don't believe it, confession after how many hours of interrogations,I've heard tapes n don't think it sounds like him show me CONCRETE EVIDENCE not sircumstantial that puts him anywhere near them .. I know of several people that are locked up in Indiana who shouldn't be ...what about suspect that FBI had and was questioning before local police stopped them , yup he "died of COVID " way to much reasonable doubt for me and others ....JURY CONVICTED BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE HE DID IT NOT CAUSE EVIDENCE PROVED HE DID , prosecutor never would've offered deals they did if they truly thought he was guilty

[@Ieezeca]

Still No, Mr. Raptor. So many accurate confessions before RA...They said he had what 60? How many of those were the wildly innacurate ones? In the end they had one solid one they played with him asking the guard if he did it well enough after. Is that it, are you one of the prison guards?

[@estrella5935]

@@raptorman48you sound just as smart as that jury 😁

[@ValaHauks-mj7ub]

@@raptorman48it’s impossible trying to reason with unreasonable people, They are so deeply gaslighted and they are so convinced that they know better than the jurors and the people who where at the trial, and mind you They believe it without realising it’s their own conformation bias that hinders them from being able to see the facts and the truth It’s a mess perfectly concocted and structured by the defence team It’s just word salad Deflection Project and bs Nothing is based on any facts or the truth for that matter And people are eating it up like fools. I guess they will have a massive meltdown when RA will be denied the appeal 😂

[@vinnivanhood]

Every level of the system in Indiana is corrupt AF!

[@cosmicmariner6621]

So in 1783 we decided men are not "kings." We will however allow them be "Gods!"

[@KT06]

This case is so shady, and this is the only time in any case I've followed that I don't think true justice was served and I think there's an innocent man in prison. Idk how this jury even legally convicted him when there was just so much reasonable doubt and idk how they sleep at night. Does nobody want the real killer caught?!

[@emiilyjaane7]

I knew Richard was innocent! Free him now! He doesn't need a second trial when the REAL killer admitted it! #FreeRichardAllen #JusticeForLibby&Abbey !!!

[@michaelj1552]

So wtf. Why wasn’t this brought up! wtf is going on with our justice system! Any and all evidence to prove your innocence should be allowed in your trial!

[@Stroopwaffe1]

Where are all the people who said that bg was ra ? Were still watching from Scotland.........

[@AGdawn]

They need to look into every case that judge presided over.

[@นิตยาคําพิมาย]

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[@Tomas-tw5ju]

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[@MartinMertens-fp5fi]

To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.

[@AxelBogaert-sl3kh]

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[@Tomas-tw5ju]

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[@watsonkaren3449]

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.

[@kgraham5820]

Gull should have been removed anyway. She was biased from the get go, if not towards RA then towards his defense attorneys for certain.

[@MrEnjoivolcom1]

The police absolutely bungled this scene and case.

[@April-xs9tk]

FREE RICHARD ALLEN!!!! Free this INNOCENT man!!!

[@doriangrey9702]

Ron Logan lied about his alibi. . He was on probation and confined to his property. He asked a nephew? To lie for him that day saying he was with him at a store looking at fish to buy. And because Ron Logan lied about not being on his property he went to jail for breaking probation. He also, confessed to the crime saying he used box cutter. That's 2017. Judge Gull should be investigated by the FBI and removed from her seat. She withheld evidence from the Jury. Including 2 confessions of the crime from 2 other people providing details in 2017. Shameful disgrace. Justice required for the innocent girls and their families. Also, an innocent man and his family.

[@indie1179]

Yes, Logan organised an alibi BEFORE the girls were found. How did he know he’d need that alibi BEFORE the girls were found??? Riddle me that.

[@doriangrey9702]

@@indie1179 exactly. A). His property,B) history of drunken violence against women.C) Alibi before they were found ( he stated "They" are going to pin this on someone) then after being incarcerated for breaking probation by ( his alibi leaving his property) lie. D) He confessed details while locked up in 2017. And he sure could look like the guy in the bg picture. Would also explain the phone movement and why the officers that searched the are found nothing till the following day.

[@Precosint]

@@doriangrey9702don’t forget - Ron confessed to TWO different people. Ron’s phone was at the crime scene in the 10pm hour per the FBI’s geofencing which was stated in the search warrant for Ron’s property.

[@doriangrey9702]

@Precosint interesting. I never heard that. What about the other guy that confessed to the murders? The lack of DNA, Ron Logan lying about an alibi if innocent. Why lie and go to prison? He had violent history. Angel, I could go on forever about other suspects including Weber. The trial and the Judge is corrupt. Withholding evidence from the jury, ie: confessions etc is grounds for a mistrial. There is more evidence of the innocence of Richard Allen than guilt of the crime.

[@vinny1883]

Banning evidence, banning cameras, restricting public access as much as she can...Judge Gull is the worst judge I've ever heard about and doesn't deserve her position.

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

There's also this Bev Canone in Massachusetts

[@randydisher1153]

wtf is wrong with the judge?

[@skaarlet1449]

I’ve asked that question so many times. My husband-def not a true crime person-has even taken an interest in this case. As an outsider, seeing all of the absolute bs the judge has done, he even says RA was railroaded. The biggest thing to us was Gull refusing to allow a third party defense. That really got me doubting the validity of the state’s case. Look back at FL vs Casey Anthony. Jose Baez absolutely dragged CA’s father. Said horrible, untrue things about him. But judge Perry allowed it. It is your right to have a defense, no matter how outlandish it may seem. Some of what RA’s defense offered (runes on the tree in blood) bit sketchy, but if that’s the defense they want to present, then it’s up to the jury to decide. The judge never allowed RA a defense. That alone was unconstitutional…and there were many other things about this case that were (and still ARE) worthy of appeal.

[@WillBlindYouWithLight]

$$$$$ power and control

[@Elizabeth_K24]

Apparently, a lot is wrong with her. She's grossly negligent.

[@WickedWest512]

The judge, LE ,DA and EVERYONE that had their hands in this case need to be brought up on charges NOW!!!

[@suzinaccache]

Box cutters , funny that the pathologist just happened to now think this on the stand, there is the nexus right there that should have allowed third party culrpit gull said they didnt have. Also why did logan lie about his alibi before they knew there was a crime.

[@wendisingleton1180]

#FreeRichardAllen

I do not understand how a jury would not have doubt...reasonable doubt

[@nmm913]

One of the jurors did and interview. Im not surprised she didn't understand reasonable doubt bcuz she sounded like she wouldn't know how to chew her way out of a paper bag. She was a complete bimbo and the only word she knew was "like like like, like omg"

[@ShannaClark-22]

About time instead of looking for someone to blame find the truth❤

[@hazelhadley-britt6396]

Convicted based on lies. Pushing a narrative in court and not allowing the defense to put on a proper defense, blocking 3rd party defense, etc.

[@PokeMama23]

So glad to see the comments filled with people with eyes to see and ears to hear and MINDS TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES ✊🏻

[@sonofhibbs4425]

We the people should have more power to call out these slimy officials. I’m upset none of us could DO anything about it. I admit I didn’t follow this case that much as others, but with a little time looking into it, it became very clear RA was the patsy. He might have some involvement, but there wasn’t even a MOTIVE discussed! It’s insane!

[@jonahspear4710]

Wow the judge on this case makes me sick, there should be an independant audit into the way this trial was conducted

[@CuteTexasToads]

I've been saying Richard Allen is innocent for years.

[@leps3457]

How many years you been saying that?

[@bornfree0507]

Me too

[@leps3457]

@@bornfree0507 How many years you been saying RA's innocent?

[@Legallyblonde1xo]

Me too. Nobody wanted to hear it then, but look now .. everyone's watching. FINALLY and paying attention!! His lawyers, deserve sooo much respect and credit. They haven't stopped fighting their hardest since day one. True defenders of the law!

[@malloryknox6802]

​@@Legallyblonde1xoyeah, lawyers who allowed crime scene photos of 2 young girls to get leaked deserve respect 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@joeblood1050]

I believe Logan was interviewed once, and asked to recite the phrase "down the hill". I don't have the best of hearing, but it sounded rather similar to the cell phone recording.

[@KnuckleheadStuey]

His ex girlfriend said it was definitely his voice. This was after he died so it doesn't seem out of malice.

[@cosmicmariner6621]

HIs cousin who gave him the FAKE alibi saw the "bridge guy" video a wekk later then went to the police and said Ron Logan was bridge guy. Not a disgruntled ex. but a friend willing to lie to the police on his behalf.

[@4legdfishman]

A botched investigation? Not allowing critical evidence? A jail confession? That's unheard-of in our country! NOT! He sure sounds innocent to me. I see a lawsuit in his future.

[@gins8781]

He will need the money to relocate and keep himself safe. He will never be safe living anywhere near that area again. Even if he is exonerated. Some of the comments I see about this case reveal extreme bias against him and maliciousness.

[@WildIrishRose59]

RA is NOT guilty. (I don’t believe RL is responsible either). As much as I pray for justice for Abby and Libby, convicting the wrong person is not the answer. The person(s) that did this are laughing up their sleeves. Such a shame.

[@MinaBlak]

Finally something to bring attention back to this extremely questionable trial!

[@deboraharmon9459]

Mr. Allen needs our prayers.That man is innocent.😢

[@JL-zn7me]

A new trial?! Richard Allen has been tortured, suffered and completely lost his reputation and life… why? There was a confession, in detail already! Nothing was just about Allen’s trial… nothing! He needs to be cleared and released immediately!

[@NicolaMaxwell]

100% Free Rick Allen!

[@marthahendricks9529]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioi5qHiErKqVaJo Please Pray for RA

[@SmokesLetsGoBud]

So he was there that day, at the same time, wearing the same clothes, has a nearly identical voice to "bridge guy" audio, left a .40-caliber unspent round casing that matched his pistol, and confessed several times to both police, lawyers, and his wife over the prison phone, and you STILL think he's innocent? Wow.

[@amyvilla5292]

Have you ever heard of a fall guy or a set up or corruption

[@marthahendricks9529]

Is that like the third person to confess to being at the murders? But as long as the judge doesn’t think it is relevant… one man coerced into false confessions are relevant… people confessing without coercion.. not relevant… this is not justice 🤬🤬🤬

[@letusgather...7820]

Including Rick Allen's psychosis-induced "confessions" (of SA of his granddaughter who didn't exist and shooting the girls in the back and burying them in a shallow grave, etc.), there was a confession of a man who said he was there when the crime happened and spit on one of the girls. He (Elvis Fields) asked LE if his DNA was found on the victim but he had a good explanation, would he still be in trouble. He confessed to his sister allegedly before the bodies were discovered, and also tried to give his sister his "blue jacket" and said he was in trouble and had to go away for a long time (then lawyered up). His sister had to go to a friend in Homeland Security to get anyone to pay attention; she was administered a polygraph, and the polygrapher and her daughter perished in an arson housefire.

[@SarahNGeti]

​@@letusgather...7820what?

[@a.s.p.r5278]

No wonder they didnt streem the trial live 😮 OMG Free Richard Allan

[@Anita_Backrub]

I wouldn’t even drive through Delphi Indiana. These small corrupt towns are 1000X scarier than my big awful city!

[@Youtubeissocool]

$$$$$$$ The state of Indiana is going to pay him millions and millions of dollars!

[@ogadlogadl490]

They will probably pull an “Epstein” on him so they don’t have to pay.

[@deboraharmon9459]

This needs to go to Supreme Court. He won't get a fair chance

[@CuteTexasToads]

They will make sure Allen dies in prison before he gets a fair trial. They are that corrupt.

[@KnuckleheadStuey]

Our Supreme court is a joke. They probably won't even hear the case. They pick and choose some of the most useless cases and spend months on them.

[@dlbodkins]

😂😂😂 nope he wishes probably but he'll never see a dollar because he's 100%guilty. Sorry people really are delusional if they think he's innocent they need to give these girls and there families the respect they deserve all loser's imo. If true your saying FBI, state police local sherrifs department and I'm sure there's others all helped on this case.but they'd all have to be in on it 😂 fantasy land is all it is.

[@brucewilson1958]

Allen is innocent. This case was a legal framing. Set him free. Likely, BK, too.

[@Ieezeca]

One thing is for sure, whatever they decide for BK not a lot of people will trust it. Thanks Doug Carter!

[@tinamartina1801]

There in BK case- the Concalves family is suspicious too much for me. The sister Alivea+ father Gonzo .Something g s off , definitely.

[@malloryknox6802]

Who the hell is Koburger? You can't even spell the last name of the guy you're defending 😂

[@brucewilson1958]

@@malloryknox6802 Hi. Please spell it for me.

[@Legallyblonde1xo]

Purposely ignored, amongst the hundreds of other things they ignored, nvm all the misconduct. This whole case has been a shit show from day 1, and it absolutely infuriates me. Glad to see he had great attorneys, who haven't stopped fighting their hardest since day one. Those attorneys deserve soo much respect and credit.

[@MysteryGrey]

Allen didn't do it.

[@Christy-.]

#FreeRichardAllen #RichardAllenIsInnocent

[@emilylitchko9414]

Happy to see they are still fighting this case

[@SweetUniverse]

What will happen if Richard Allen is found innocent? Will he ever be able to recover from what has been done to him?

[@brianandrachelbrisson6039]

I KNEW IT!!! The more and more I study criminal cases, the more and more I get infuriated! To me, it is 100% unethical and completely biased when the judge seated to hear the case gets to decide what is or is not allowed to be heard! We all know that the judges are totally aware of the cases and the opinions gathered on it by media and law enforcement gossip! This system already lacks proficiency as it is, and this just adds to the corruption in my opinion.

[@Kk04235]

@@brianandrachelbrisson6039 absolutely!! Judges are typically for the State and the Defense rarely gets truly heard or believed. We literally have to prove our innocence beyond a reasonable doubt and thats not how u get justice for anyone

[@bartmanxoxo]

He looks more like bridge guy than Rick 😮

[@jas2qt4u]

Wow that's sad.

[@THEYTHINKTHEYAREGODS]

This was so screwed up from the beginning

[@mattlubas4038]

I always thought it was Ron Logan.. soon as I seen bridge guy .. The next day he did a interview with the same blue coat same color hat same jeans similar walk .. cant see Richard allan doing this No history of violence no dna no connection …

[@4b5urd.]

The Judge gave the prosecution every tool they needed to convict the defendant. Which would normally be a good thing, after all we want victims to have Justice, we want those guilty of heinous crimes to face appropriate consequences in such a way that either 1)If and when they return to being a member of society they are rehabilitated, humbled, grateful, respectful, decent contributing members of society that realizes and respects the value and cost of life and freedom. Or 2) They are never able to inflict pain or suffering or in any way harm another individual. However in this case, it was not a good thing. I would say that the conviction of Richard Allen was more than just incompetence by law enforcement, prosecutors, investigators, and the judge. At some point it became their objective and they worked together to make it happen. The objective should always have been to get justice for Abby and Libby, not to convict Richard Allen. Their objective was clear, why else would they send an innocent man to prison before he even stood trial?? Every American should be greatly disturbed and not just angry but PISSED that this could happen. The Judge tied the Defense's hands behind their backs, by not allowing them to present a strong case. Not allowing evidence in and not allowing them to present alternative suspects, suspects that all arguably had a more compelling nexus to the victims than Richard Allen had but I digress. The state did not have a strong case, nor did they present one. They did not meet their burden. What we know now from hearing from jurors, it is clear several of them were not certain Richard Allen was guilty. They had reasonable doubt, as any rational person would with what evidence or lack of evidence was presented. The point I'm trying to make, is there was many forces working to prosecute Richard Allen, but ultimately the Judge carries a majority of the responsibility for the outcome of this trial. Should there not be consequences for her actions? Is it possible or likely that she was acting in good faith and believed Richard Allen was guilty? Even if that was the case, she still failed to be impartial or have an open mind. It wasn't her job to determine if he was guilty or not. People make mistakes, even Judges, but here we are with an innocent man having lost everything and his freedom for years and still counting. This should have never happened and would have never happened if he had a fair trial. In conclusion, finally, if you think this is unacceptable, if you think this is a violation of rights, if you think this should never have happened, and if you are disgusted this could happen to an innocent man, I encourage you to make a difference and do your part. Today it happens to a man you don't know on the other side of the country, tomorrow it could be you or a loved one. Imagine Richard Allen was your child or your father, your brother. We cannot condone the corruption and abuse of power. We cannot allow our criminal justice system to remain this broken. I encourage anyone with intimate knowledge of this case and prosecution of Richard Allen, anyone who has examined the trial and court proceedings and had them under a microscope to go to www.in.gov/courts/ojar/jd-process/jqc-complaint/ and file a proper complaint against Judge Gull. She needs to be held accountable. Also write your Representatives in congress, write the Indiana state reps, write the governor of Indiana, write the President of the United States. And keep writing them. Tell them Americans are not going to stand for this, That we have drawn our line in the sand... And they are either for us or they are against us. We voted them into office, if they are not able or willing to do the job, they should not expect to keep it.

[@JenHistoryFuzzAdmin]

I’m glad this is finally out, but it should’ve happened several years ago!! Our justice system has major flaws and hopefully they’ll get it right and compensate RA!! The other trial that has MAJOR problems is the Idaho 4 case!! BK is innocent and he’s getting railroaded too!!

[@cannibalcupcake2.0]

@@JenHistoryFuzzAdmin They were prevented from speaking out. They had a protective order up to trial and everything that was said in court was essentially done in private and/or sealed. This is the first time they’ve really had the chance to get this info out.

[@IndianaDave4661]

I remember from the trial that Ron Logan also had the same type of gun that Richard Allen had. They tested his gun too and said the results were "Inconclusive"

[@Lobo-tommy10]

Gull is a mid evil witch.

[@tinamartina1801]

Why " mid" ? She is TOP " witch " .

[@goodiesgumdrops1164]

Absurd to think Logan would leave their bodies on his property

[@t.j.5044]

Really? The family started searching right away and then police showed up. It's possible he thought it would be safer to leave them there and say he wasn't home than it would be to risk trying to relocate them without getting caught. For all anyone knows, he may have started to move them but was forced to leave them because there wasn't enough time before people tarted searching. What's absurd is people thinking nothing could have prevented him from moving them and that if they were left there it must have been the plan all along. smh.

[@mommalipp]

Richard Allen is INNOCENT

[@ronp-eb9bh]

Facts 💯. Even a junior FBI Profiler would've told the county and state guys that if they would've asked at the beginning of the investigation. Instead, they went out there like a bunch of wild bucks, ruined evidence at the crime scene, and pinned the tail on RA out of lazy convenience. It's a total miscarriage of justice to RA, his family, and the two young girls (victims), including their loved ones.

[@Ieezeca]

"That be a gun" OR it's Ron Logan...which sounds likelier. Especially considering the FBI declared RL bridge guy.

[@michaelkawell3300]

Ron Logan did this and I said it from jump.he had the motive .People being on his property

[@We_Are_All_Vultures]

According to his account, he tried to lure them

[@cosmicmariner6621]

They were NOT on his property. He took them to his property. Ron Logan filed a complaint against two girls (one of whom) actually lived in his house. Complaint said they stole from him. They did not show up to court. Days later he sees the two girls on the bridge. He was a violent delusional drunk.

[@Thewaterhound]

They had to be lured there. I doubt the man was able to drag or carry the girls that far. He had to have had a gun, if I recall one of the girls says in the video something about a gun

[@taylorhood6049]

For sure it even looks like him on the snap video

[@KennethBaltierra-ux5km]

Richard is nothing more than a fall guy ive said it when they said they had a person of interest logan is the real killer

[@ClariceStarling45]

He was one of the first suspects … nothing new about him.

[@Ieezeca]

RL. He certainly didnt go to jail for 4 years for just driving on a suspended license...but that's the story.

[@justinpruitt9285]

So you knew about this detailed confession he gave?

[@marthahendricks9529]

Maybe he did…. There were a lot of leakson the prosecution side 🤔😉 and a lot of exculpatory info that never made it to the defense

[@ClariceStarling45]

@@justinpruitt9285 I said nothing about his confession and knew nothing of it.

[@TN-rf7nt]

KG needs to explain the shack.

[@Ieezeca]

Doug Carter needs to explain the tentacles...and tell us that story.

[@johnmorganjr769]

💯👍

[@banks12074]

I hope he gets out and sues the whole state for this outrageous crime they pinned on him. He was targeted and treated like trash in one of the worst prisons until they broke him. Ridiculous.

[@michellejarrett1826]

A disgusting example of justice and the system and a corrupt judge

[@nextfriiday]

Law enforcement walked outta the search party the first night. Volunteers continued through the night. It speaks volumes.