Former Olympic Hopeful Fighting for Trans Athletes | Identify

[@Olympics]

You can read more about the IOC Guidelines, which were defined by medical specialists taking all the scientific evidence available into consideration, including stipulating testosterone level limits here: stillmed.olympic.org/Documents/Commissions_PDFfiles/Medical_commission/2015-11_ioc_consensus_meeting_on_sex_reassignment_and_hyperandrogenism-en.pdf

[@Sgtvalentini]

Thank you so much for all your support

[@gaboogablah]

There should be mens, womens and trans categories for sports. Trans should compete against trans only. That's how to have equally.

[@zoegauthier7540]

gaboogablah nah this dude was on levels of testosterone to make him equal to guys. transgender people aren’t a separate category?? they’re girls or boys.

[@skgtt1811]

liam gauthier so men boxing women is ok? Tell that to the Australian woman boxer killed by a trans person in the ring

[@zoegauthier7540]

Serkos Kanellopoulos i believe there should be different requirements for mtf people, because the hormonal changes are less intense. i hope that woman rests in peace.

[@zoegauthier7540]

gaboogablah the most disgusting thing to me is how purely hateful you are. what if that was you? have you ever hated yourself? have you ever been diagnosed with mental illness? have you ever hurt in a way that nobody understood? how do you think it’d feel if they already felt that way, then on top of it people like you are spiteful and hateful for no reason. if you believe in god, he is not a man of hate. he sees all men and women, mentally ill or not, as his children. you are not doing what the lord would want and even if you don’t believe in a god, your mentality is what gets people killed. you need to rethink your values.

[@SurferBobbyLew]

This is a woman end of story on hormone therapy. She is biologically female a women with gender disphoria

[@ernestmac13]

Pat isn't taking enough Testosterone to give him an unfair advantage over men who are not in his particular situation, the change is only dramatic because the female is accustomed to estrogen. If Pat had been born a boy but had a health issue rendering his testicles unable to produce testosterone, folks wouldn't be up in arms about him being on testosterone supplements.

[@alexxander966]

Social Media Meham I don't know why this is so hard for everyone to wrap their minds around?

[@hannahjwakeling3829]

If he was to take to much testosterone his body would most likely turn the excess testosterone into estrogen, so it's not like he has more than a cis male

[@kaenkano1927]

Great f*cking reply true story, I agree whole heartedly...

[@kaenkano1927]

Though it does feel strange knowing she was born a woman. But after watching the fight, this girl boxes like a man. She gave a good fight both in performance for the crowd and in the ring. God bless her I wish her the best. Im excited for next fight. Hopefully theres more promotion next time because this should be considered a big thing in boxing.

[@dchappy6985]

Still Cheating!

[@mathewstovell5167]

American politics interfeering with world sport including the olympics. This is just pathetic.

[@alexdalacios3238]

Wake up ppl this all of hollyweird

[@mattthedestroyer2804]

He's still weaker than biological men, why are people saying this is unfair??? 😂😂😂😂 Testosterone isn't the only difference between genders

[@relaxingsounds-calmingwhit4707]

No. Hgh, other hormones play much more of a role than test

[@chrisalbright3599]

This person must fight men hands down. Shame on everyone who don't like women in sports.

[@lexnite22]

People on here talking like as if they have a PhD in human physiology and an understanding of medicine in hormonal treatment, get out of here and get an education.

[@azn0azn0azn]

lexnite22 how about you educate us instead of bashing our "nonsense."

[@taniwhab3860]

Chingye he/she/it won't because most likely they can't.....

[@alex73217]

At last read the article they posted alongside this video... that would be a start :D

[@edwingutierrez3923]

They do have an education.... gender dysphoria is an actual thing, and what is pretty sad is people like you preaching falsly and embracing this stupidity

[@tyrone05]

the people that had PhD's in Physiology wrote books about male and female and now are being told they were wrong. Explain

[@cantilever]

Pat almost got knocked out by a winless journeyman in her professional debut. (She got a gift decision in a bout that should have been scored a draw.) She would be destroyed by any world-class male super-featherweight. Why...? 'Cause she's a biological woman competing against biological dudes...

[@tyrone05]

no anyone with a decent ability to fight. World class would be murder and should no be sanctioned

[@Sean_Regan]

Shh the snowflakes will hear you.

[@claudiocastro9796]

Good job Pat, you are not a man, you are THE MAN, most of us will never be or become.

[@jaywright8837]

Good on you mate :))

[@diyap7343]

Men, Women, Trans. We need the third category.

[@jimmyjim5yearsago376]

Or maybe four category. Men, women, trans-men, trans-women

[@onesimpletrick3448]

Diya P yay for segregation!! No.

[@diyap7343]

@onesimpletrick it's not about segregation. When trans females compete against biological females without undergoing surgery or hormone therapy, they have a very obvious physical advantage because biological men compete on a much higher level than women. This isn't a plea for segregation. This is a call for reason.

[@mikemendez3778]

You mean men,women, mentally unstable?

[@kekayaan6337]

@@jimmyjim5yearsago376 and white men, black men, Asian men, white women , black women , Asian women, trans women , trans men.

[@LilacDaisy2]

Is Pat winning against top sportsmen, like the trans who are slaying top women in their sports?

[@idiotwhonoonelikes1128]

Why is everyone being disrespectful

[@RikuBielfelt]

I see no disrespect and i managed to scroll all the way to your comment xD

[@tyrone05]

the only disrespect is people trying to tell us our common sense is not correct. That is a major insult

[@mikemendez3778]

@@tyrone05 Yeah like a man is not a woman

[@takeoma5798]

@@tyrone05 Actually your common sense is kinda wrong, no offense to you tho, nobody teaches about trans people in school, you just here about it. So I completely understand why you would be offended because when people insult your intelligence. But I’m not here to insult you I’m just here to try and educate you and hopefully you’ll change your view on trans people because they suffer from a lot and people are very ignorant about this subject. See there’s a medical condition call Gender Dysphoria. Essentially it means that trans people are born with the brain of the gender they conform with, for example, a transgender man would have a brain structure and function of that of a cisgender male’s like a larger Hippocampus and a brain size abt 11% larger than a women’s, they’re was an entire study made by the Cleveland Clinic devoted to this called Research on the Transgender Brain: What You Should Know. This medical condition has been also seen in animals and I believe Harvard did I study on this as well called Between the (Gender) Lines: the Science of Transgender Identity. So I hope this helps you understand transgenders a little more. And I hope I didn’t offended you either, people are ignorant to a lot things that go one in the world and that’s not your fault I just hope you have a better understanding about these people.

[@wolfgangamadeusmozart113]

​@@takeoma5798 Wdym "these people". Frankly, I find that bigoted.

[@urbanothepopeofdeath]

" I lost, so I went trans". awesome, smh

[@h2flow1]

So Pat couldn't hack it as a woman fighting woman and lost. Now Pat wants to take tesotorone, and fight men. 🤔

[@PuicyBuilt]

Hahahaha

[@honestresponse6833]

I've been in boxing and mma for a long time.........you are definitely a fighter!!! I wish you luck.

[@MrGrey-zc2cy]

The way I see it the testosterone doesn't give him an advantage because he used to be a woman. It's basically the opposite of trans-female athletes competing, sure they have reduced testosterone but they still have most of the advantages that come with going through puberty as a male.

[@mikemendez3778]

Yeah that chick has no chance at going pro

[@onetwo19]

This guy is really cool but if I hear him calling people transphobes and racists even one time, he won't be cool anymore. Remember, It's taken you years to decide to change so don't expect those around you, opponents, or whomever to just change right away. You have to be a little tolerance too!

[@jennettesaxberg6528]

More power to him. Go pat.

[@bobleeswagger831]

Bouts fall out all the time in amateur boxing. People get cold feet and don’t show up. The trainer even said they didn’t tell anyone Pat was trans, but Pat and the trainer cry transphobia because the other guy pulled out??? Listen, I know Pat wants to compete, but this isn’t going to end well.

[@maorinattydread1916]

Yeah my brotha much respect my Fellow Trans Brotha. Stand Strong and keep winning.

[@androlibre9661]

Taking roids to be become a man or maintain avg male levels of Testosterone IS an advantage.. You're artificially maintaining T levels, so you experience no drop or natural fluctuation. Just like guys with a Low T doctors note are "allowed" to take Testosterone and all the sudden put up better numbers than in their prime. That being said........I doubt FTM trans athletes can actually dominate even when roided up

[@kekayaan6337]

I wouldn’t compare a Low T dude to a female taking steroids.

[@weeniewizard]

LOVE! Ignore the hate and you do you! Wishing you lots of luck!

[@RikuBielfelt]

Being labeled a woman?? No no, its not a label like some social trend, its male female science like it always has been. I hope this guy gets the help he needs

[@RikuBielfelt]

Girl xD guy - FEMALE! boom finally - this female

[@readynow12345]

I think you meant she.

[@Maitreya888]

She have little to no chance against male boxer. No fairytale story going to change millions of years of evolution.

[@alexanderk.5474]

Well, then let's lift the ban on doping too.

[@samschumann3868]

A. K. Bruh what

[@desprinkhaan641]

I'ts not doping, his testosterone levels is the same as the average man. Doping on the other hand, brings the level much higher than that, making that disadventage

[@kekayaan6337]

it’s 2 different substances, steroids is anabolic(muscle building)while HRT is androgenic(develop male characteristics). And they only take the same level as biological men.

[@chrisalbright3599]

So this person is going to fight women. I thought you were never supposed to hit a girl. He couldnt cut it with men so they went girl

[@edithcallaway4316]

All these Jewphobic comments are sickening.

[@METAL-ADDICT]

Now this I can get behind. Good fortune to you.

[@Olympics]

Well said. Good luck to Pat in his professional career! 🥊

[@mikemendez3778]

@@Olympics have fun getting knocked out by real men

[@kekayaan6337]

@@mikemendez3778 real men gets knocked out by real men as well. What’s the point? There can only be 1 winner.

[@h2flow1]

Sorry Pat, mother nature is against you on this one. No matter how hard you try.

[@honchokzeetv1569]

Apparently not since he doing this good in life 😹

[@bobbycaldwell9460]

Has he had any success in fighting men? This is the first time I've seen a female-male athlete. I wish the drugs weren't necessary. It's left him with considerable facial scars. I think this might be a dead end for the story, but I'll still follow it.

[@tyrone05]

Pat had 1 victory, BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT the fighter Pat fought lost every single fight he has ever fought. And i watched the fight and look to me that he might have held back until the end

[@mikemendez3778]

Lol i doubt this chick has a chance

[@tristantoledo6866]

All right hormones are allowed? How about we let steroids be entirely legal, let's see how fair that would be.

[@PHlophe]

Triston, you are a cretin .

[@jensenlukematar]

Tristan Turne He cannot take testosterone to exceed male range therefore, any other player's levels would match his. There is no advantage.

[@FREEDOM-qb8db]

I think this is GREAT! I think "Trans-Women" should enter every single women's athletic competition in the country. From High School track and field to Women's Professional Boxing and Women's Soccer and Women's power lifting. Have at it Trans-Women, you should be allowed to compete as a woman in every way. Good way to bring more media attention to your cause also. And don't forget, you would be shoe-in's for College scholarships!

[@kekayaan6337]

Wrong video bro, this is on transMEN.

[@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear]

That's a girl though. Taking hormones in amateur boxing and olympics is not fair it's like taking in steroids please don't do this olympics commissioner.

[@jonny5415]

Henry Chaisritha in the link they posted it says, that the anti-doping code won't be affected by this.

[@kekayaan6337]

if u mean doping, it’s 2 different substances, steroids is anabolic(muscle building)while HRT is androgenic(develop male characteristics). And they only take the same level as biological men. So I don’t understand your logic.

[@batman1169]

Its PAT!

[@vmbo]

Besides being unfair, doesn't this create really awkward situations? Like seeing some man putting hands on a transgender n or a woman getting punched by a male who had hormone therapy? It's not pretty.

[@butterflykisses2552]

vmbo And yet Fallon Fox was beaten by a biological.woman OMG how did that happen?? That's impossible!

[@jensenlukematar]

vmbo This is simply a man fighting a man. His testosterone levels are in normal male range.

[@honchokzeetv1569]

It’s the fact you wouldn’t have known he was transgender if it wasn’t said 😹 and how is it unfair when he is on hormone replacement therapy that levels out to the average man

[@mr_teo4072]

Yeah sure. Have cross gender in sports. Just don't complain when a women gets killed by a transexual women.Simple.

[@butterflykisses2552]

Mr_Teo That's why competitors use protective head hear, padded gloves, etc and what refs are for in contact sports.

[@kj22697]

No steroids, No Trans

[@PaulaTicks]

I do not believe in trans athletes competing in opposite gender sports but she seems like a great person. Glad she's happy.

[@jesseparkerhart]

*he

[@aarthemuse6946]

Good luck !

[@Azul901]

She needs to box women.

[@dannyd1098]

she's still a biological woman

[@saswatikar7796]

respect uhh sir.. salute to u

[@808waimanalo]

A girl wanting to compete with the men? I don't see the gripe. Men transitioning into a girl, and competing? Nope. That's ethically wrong

[@alexxander966]

KUUIPO GRACE when a trans woman is on hormones, they also take testosterone blockers. They lose muscle weight. Their body becomes softer in general. They have no advantage over the other females. Except maybe a height advantage.

[@808waimanalo]

Siha Kalahira MAY lose muscle mass. The fat "she" will produce henceforth from hormones will distribute in the female pattern. If they stop taking testosterone, they MAY lose muscle gradually. They will still have the benefit of bone density since hormones will not affect their skeletal structure(which can also play a HUGE part in competition). Not to mention if they haven't been snipped, they will still be producing test. The hormone therapy will only bring them down to the levels that the governing body, commission, Olympic counsel will recognize as being low enough to be considered female.

[@808waimanalo]

Taniwha B I know. So my point still stands. A woman who transitions to compete as a man, I commend her. For the male transitioning to female however I have to disagree. The playing field will never truly be even no matter how much hormone blockers you take.

[@sneesus98]

Siha Kalahira they absolutely have and advantage. Just look at the size of a man's hand compared to a womans. How can you make a statement like that

[@LilacDaisy2]

@@alexxander966 Do the female hormones also reduce skeletal structure and height? It is the worst misogyny for men to tell women that men should be allowed in female-only spaces "if they ..."

[@no-bozos]

How is it that this woman can pump hormones and testosterone (banned substances in boxing) into her body and still be allowed to box?

[@readynow12345]

Dude it's not gotten there yet & I doubt it ever will.

[@WadeAlma]

Cause they will still get destroyed. That is a woman's body fighting a man. No chance.

[@kekayaan6337]

if u mean doping, it’s 2 different substances, steroids is anabolic(muscle building)while HRT is androgenic(develop male characteristics). And they only take the same level as biological men. So I don’t understand your logic.

[@johndixon2423]

NWO

[@sophisticatedcaveman3275]

Hmmm i think every boxer should know before they box her its only fair to the athlete and also the sport. They should be able to decide if they want to box her or not.

[@Aizenburton]

Pat won't get past the trials among the real men anyway. Testosterone or not. Some Cuban American kid will out class it.

[@robjong6966]

So lets see who wins, a man or a woman on steroids. Honestly, my money is on men still winning but anything can happen in boxing.

[@jensenlukematar]

Rob Jong His testosterone levels are in perfect male range so, there is no advantage either way. He's just a man fighting other men.

[@srihari5405]

Jensen Luke That is what we call a woman on roids.

[@readynow12345]

Do you even have a GED perfect male range idiot lol.

[@WadeAlma]

Won't matter. A real man with the same training will always win.

[@armandocasas2231]

¿Promise? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@BoriPR82]

Step in the ring with Devon haney and let's see if you a man.

[@thedrenkemp124]

Bruh I tell y’all god going to destroy this whole world

[@shawnclark5333]

He should... Your grammar is atrocious.

[@ZackClyneers]

But it's ok you can do it.

[@titaniumborn8779]

Now ppl think they are rocks or animals foh

[@mikemendez3778]

im god

[@chrisclayton2907]

Must be a fan of million dollar baby

[@RikuBielfelt]

Also to all of you talking about "haters" remember that truth and hate are not the same just because you want an excuse for this to be ok....

[@tokzy-yt]

😂😂😂😂

[@PuicyBuilt]

Dam freak

[@tottenhamhotspurish]

At least he “he” boxes up and not down.

[@mr.stranger4951]

That's one ruff looking lady! After she gets ko'd a few times in the pro league then she'll snap out of it!

[@clone_101]

Fith

[@hdugtkaodjgkf2247]

yo, what is that?

[@ZackClyneers]

I think I know why he's a trans man. I feel and see his experience that maybe it's his muscles. whatever he's gaining in the body is probably developing his experience by force and strike. That the truth on how women is made is like feeling and seeing like there's some fat on or in the body. So because he grew a lot stronger, he now became man its like changer you body by muscles.

[@matiasampuero4711]

but he is a woman!!

[@culchy1971]

I'm ok for her to compete in the male division as long as she's not getting performance enhancers however she is

[@chickenfriedwaffles]

HE is not. HE is taking T to get to the average level of men.

[@Teddy-iw6yb]

wowwww

[@AnimalKaiser389]

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[@chloewhittington326]

Third