*Managed to notice a Car with a new Sound File that is not in this vid? Comment below!* *Time Marks* 00:45 Nissan GT-R R34 01:45 Nissan GT-R R32 & R33 01:55 The fudging perfect GT-R Sound File... 03:00 BMW M4 03:11 BMW M2 03:21 BMW M3 E92 03:33 BMW 1M 04:35 BMW M4 GTS 05:40 Dodge Viper ACR 2016 05:52 Ferrari La Ferrari 06:50 Ferrari FXX K 07:56 Honda Civic Type R 08:08 Maserati Granturismo S 08:40 McLaren P1 08:54 McLaren F1 09:52 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster 10:52 Pagani Zonda R 11:46 Porsche 918 Spyder
@shaikolm6 жыл бұрын
Mate you deserve more subs and Zonda R sounds much worse than FH3
@shijima6 жыл бұрын
Well idk about the update but m5 e60 sounds sooo laggy imo
@dr_henk6836 жыл бұрын
The sounds on the Civic Type R (EK9) is also weird.
@shijima6 жыл бұрын
@@dr_henk683 you can hear it like its right next to you but she's mile away
@Poindexter_07126 жыл бұрын
Zonda Cinque & R sounded better when it updated
@samircolovic75796 жыл бұрын
Forza sounds are too "pixelised". Forza devs really needs to use community's sound files (Sorry for bad English).
@TheNicoxoxD6 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that knows what are he talking
@joostinatortje5 жыл бұрын
I don't know exactly where they fucked up since I never played Forza motorsports 3, but Forza motorsports 2 had very realistic sounds, and I really mean VERY realistic. Sometimes I still play Forza motorsports 2 just for the car sounds. They even had different sound files for upgraded exhaust systems, which almost always made it sound even better. Since Forza 4 they have this "pixelised" and crackling sound in all their cars. Also when upgrading the exhaust system, it only distorts the car sound even more, making it even worse sometimes. I don't know why Forza fucked it up this much. Forza car sounds were like the most important reason for me to enter the franchise around 12 years ago. Just listen to what I just said, 12 years ago the car sounds were more realistic then they are nowadays! They should take Codemasters as an example; in their latest Dirt games the car sounds are almost spot on to the real cars.
@panzerhead5875 жыл бұрын
@@joostinatortje thank god I'm not the only one. Just compare honda crx sound difference from fh4 too f2.
@trievoluzione88685 жыл бұрын
@@panzerhead587 fh3 was the last forza game to have good sounds now all of the cars sound like trash!
@Veketi_5 жыл бұрын
@@joostinatortje What Forza Motorsport 4 doesn't have bAd sounds, they are really great
@lukebell27756 жыл бұрын
They gotta add turbo flutter noises that would make turbo cars sound a million times better. The same turbo noise on every car is so annoying
@LaidBackDeveloper4 жыл бұрын
What is the problem with y'all playground games do everything for you the community have always bad things to say JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR ONCE!
@NEGV014 жыл бұрын
@@LaidBackDeveloper you're going on like they do it out the goodness of their heart, we pay for these games top money as well🤦♂️ would you say that if some chef burnt your meal, nope 🙄
@mujiburrahman70524 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin Williamson Who tf lives off of restaurant food?
@fvkz4 жыл бұрын
@@mujiburrahman7052 fr lol
@DuMamesGarage3 жыл бұрын
Ricer
@Nino210216 жыл бұрын
The game is so beautiful, but let’s be honest....the car sounds are *disgusting*
@Fred13Mr6 жыл бұрын
They sound so bad I stopped playing the game. It’s just not fun.
@justarandomkiwi5 жыл бұрын
They need to add realistic engine sounds to the game
@johnny_boi775 жыл бұрын
Didn't buy it cause of that.. was so hyped
@NonexistentDroid20165 жыл бұрын
Oh come on! The sounds are not THAT bad.
@lifini83375 жыл бұрын
@@NonexistentDroid2016 yes they are, i've heard cars in roblox sound better, THATS A BAD THING! its not even a racing game.
@malakihall39566 жыл бұрын
The Zonda R sounds a lot better But I think Forza has a hate for the Skylines imo
@ATomatoIsAFruit6 жыл бұрын
Skylines? Try the Zonda. Poor car hasn't had a chance at accurate sounds since forever.
@malakihall39566 жыл бұрын
Actually they recorded the cars that were in Forza 4
@xCynder6 жыл бұрын
FG32 Forza 3 and 4 had the best car sounds hands down
@malakihall39566 жыл бұрын
agreed
@MM-su4gu6 жыл бұрын
In fh3 the r23 and r33 has the best sounds but the r34 in fh1 was the best sounding r34
@ochicore6 жыл бұрын
On a positive note that no one seems to be pointing out.. The fact that they listened to the community and went through with any changes at all speaks volumes to me. But yes this was a low quality patch ultimately, they should have chosen to either take their time or not even bother because imo they have made worse overall. There's a misunderstanding with the skylines. There was nothing wrong with that sound file, we just wanted a more aggressive version of the RB motor (which would have taken time to record) but instead they just replaced the sound entirely rather than to improve it. It just sounds like a porsche now. I won't go into more detail because just about everyone is commenting their disappointments here but I just wish they would have handled this with more care. It still makes me happy that they went out and tried to make changes in the first place though. The intent was good, the execution, not so much :(
@EarthIsFlat4566 жыл бұрын
eochi yeah at least they are finally willing to listen from the community, they didn't give a shit about the community's opinions on car sounds in FM7. With that said they will have to do a lot better than this to convince me to buy this game since many cars still sound terrible. Although I doubt they'll ever be able to improve car sounds significantly. It's either quantity or quality, can't have both.
@tazs81426 жыл бұрын
eochi im glad they did but they did a shit job
@spacekii6 жыл бұрын
eochi I agree. They're one of the few game developers who actually listen to the community. The only thing they need to do is spend a little more time on perfecting the sound
@Oat_meal_YT6 жыл бұрын
You get a medal for that! 🎖️
@Axxpect6 жыл бұрын
Why do these cars sound like its got some hybrid electric motor at high revs sounds like an rc car or speedboat
@onekenos6 жыл бұрын
Amr Chux have you never heard of turbos
@Axxpect6 жыл бұрын
@@onekenos have but this is different to a realistic note
@siphonzyno73786 жыл бұрын
The diablo sv in forza horizon 3 sounds like an rc car with max supercharger
@NonexistentDroid20165 жыл бұрын
Either transmission whine or turbochargers. The Agera RS describes those.
@alexmnblyth5 жыл бұрын
The "gearbox" noise
@spicyboi46116 жыл бұрын
"The backfires reminds me of Iraq" hahaha gold.
@saulthompson84956 жыл бұрын
DEFAULT SKIN 540 I can tell by your spelling of Iraq
@jakecaborn82726 жыл бұрын
//Iraq flashbacks//
@Jeremy_Hill_20206 жыл бұрын
XD
@corynelson88836 жыл бұрын
The Ebay sounds got me lmao tf that civic sounded worse than my lawnmower does
@momoloco99rh6 жыл бұрын
Still the same unnatural crappy sounds from Forza 7 with a changed pitch, we need the sound quality from FH2/FM6
@SwedishFarmer946 жыл бұрын
FM4 still holds 1st place for realistic sounds as they recorded the cars for that game...
@iDeezo6 жыл бұрын
@@SwedishFarmer94 agreed ^
@Mr.Goldbar6 жыл бұрын
@@SwedishFarmer94 the mic quality sucks and it ruined all the sounds
@SwedishFarmer946 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Goldbar You cant have played the game with that false statement. The cars sounded superb. The Koenigsegg Agera and CCX for example, soumded identical to their real life counterparts.
@patricks.79516 жыл бұрын
@@SwedishFarmer94 The first Horizon too, since the sounds are straight from motorsport 4.
@bg199-26 жыл бұрын
What happened to forza they used to have realistic car sounds. WTF, The Crew 2 has better sounds then FH4
@shravdoesstuff6 жыл бұрын
did u hear the crew 2 buggati chiron?
@adambirouk40466 жыл бұрын
Team FORTNITEYT is it good?
@shravdoesstuff6 жыл бұрын
No it sounds like a static rumble after 4k rpm. Crew 2 is garbage
@sonobukiwa31846 жыл бұрын
@@shravdoesstuff FH4 sounds are the same for 90% of the cars
@firstlast31415 жыл бұрын
Ppl still play the crew 2 it's 70% off it really suck
@Shinyodd6 жыл бұрын
I am happy that they are listening, very happy the updated sounds overall are pretty meh im not going to complain too much, because as they arent all perfect, majority are still improvements none-the-less so honestly, i hope they continue to fix more sounds over future updates, specifically the Maserati Gran Turismo and the Vipers please!!!
@Butcheren06 жыл бұрын
Yes, vipers are worst I have stumbled across
@Spherz6 жыл бұрын
And the weekwacker skylines
@rolledkcir6 жыл бұрын
The Formula Drift Viper is fine :/ but we need a V12 And V10 Updates for the Aventador and Huracan
@MA-jz4yc6 жыл бұрын
They NEED to fix the carrera GT, it sounded PERFECT in previous forza games but they fucked it up
@rolledkcir6 жыл бұрын
@@wyattc3283 I just want the Aventador to sound good
@frooz4426 жыл бұрын
Wow lazy update, they LISTENED, but not properly.
@ft99946 жыл бұрын
The Mclaren F1 sounds pretty good the Laf' sounds pretty good too. But they fucked up the sound of the Skylines especially sad because of the R34 ;(
@brandonhillgoth6996 жыл бұрын
They really need to update the sound on the gts but that’s just me
@marcusbrady50116 жыл бұрын
@@brandonhillgoth699 I agree it's pretty bad
@dnawrapsatl6 жыл бұрын
Yep the dont care at all about the community. Will be heading to gtsport or wreckfest soon. Better support there!
@JGrigoleitAPB6 жыл бұрын
Lol give them some time mate - game haven't been out for that long yet.
@charles_.l6 жыл бұрын
FH4 graphics + fh3 sounds = the perfect game
@WhyYouBulieMe6 жыл бұрын
Fh2 sounds*
@saligator88796 жыл бұрын
@@WhyYouBulieMe *ac sounds
@WhyYouBulieMe6 жыл бұрын
@@saligator8879 you could be my best friend now 😂😂
@saligator88796 жыл бұрын
@@WhyYouBulieMe 😂😂
@latuba24786 жыл бұрын
If only they had enough time for Need for speed sound quality
@hmd77556 жыл бұрын
I miss fh3 skyline sounds
@enriquepastor36266 жыл бұрын
Tuner 775 listen to the skyline in nfs pro street
@MichaelD2856 жыл бұрын
They still sounded terrible in horizon 3. FM6 sounded the best.
@Spherz6 жыл бұрын
Listen to the nfs underground 2 skyline
@vinifxavier6 жыл бұрын
FH3 R34 sounded like shit as well, only the R33 had a proper RB sound.
@RNAPuma236 жыл бұрын
Tbh I rlly dont even care about the car sounds long as they dont sound too bad
@mms2801Insane6 жыл бұрын
developers form Horizon 4 could have some lessons with codemasters
@weiss5886 жыл бұрын
or the old EA
@LispyGaming5596 жыл бұрын
Nice video most of them are from codemasters
@mhrn.13096 жыл бұрын
It was a rushed project that is why we also didn't get to see a lot of cars either. The car list lacks a lot. I feel bad for the team, we know they can make amazing games but they just don't get enough time to put the dots on the i. What also really sucks is that they are (nearly) forced to put all the time and effort into making Forza Motorsports *the* to-go racing game. But then I wonder why they didn't just put the same sound files from Forza Motorsports into Forza Horizon? Sounds easy to me, but I don't think it is that easy.
@R_Grey0326 жыл бұрын
I've always had this thought since FH4's release that it feels somehow less polished than FH3. But can't really blame the devs for everything, since Playground Games was developing FH4 AND settling down in their new home called Microsoft Studios. Hope they have enough time to finish the game, better late than never.
@r92cp496 жыл бұрын
Or Polyphony Digital. The car sound game in Gran Turismo has been killing forza for a while now
@zakariasaafan29546 жыл бұрын
They ruined the R34 Rb26 legendary sound 😢
@AlastorRadio235 жыл бұрын
No
@josuegtr10345 жыл бұрын
Why can't they re-use the r33 sound file from fh3?
@johnnigiovanni33825 жыл бұрын
They need the sound from r32 gtr off fh3
@josuegtr10345 жыл бұрын
@@johnnigiovanni3382 no the fh3 r33 has a better sound file
@johnnigiovanni33825 жыл бұрын
@@josuegtr1034 r32 fh3 sounds realistic
@PUROSHOW906 жыл бұрын
A simple clarification: you can not simply copy the sound files of other old forza horizon, this was already explained, they are using today a sound synthesis system of the engine so that the sounds are generated artificially and not real car recordings to avoid many technical problems Problems related to the game crash and more. This was put in beta for fh3 and was fully activated in fh4 (not all cars) for this reason the sounds of the cars are much more different than those of other old forza and can not simply copy a good sound of fh1 for example. Anyway I think they can get better sounds and more similar to reality with their "synthesizer". this is the link of the original forza forum where they say this ... forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postsm733332_Valiant-sound.aspx#post_733332
@Weeji_4206 жыл бұрын
That's disappointing. Kinda hard to believe they couldn't find a fix to the issues of using recordings. Can't remember Forza 4 crashing on me, ever. They need to hire a better synth guy!
@willtomlin95016 жыл бұрын
That explains a lot.
@Moore916 жыл бұрын
Sure, but come on. There's a practically ancient game I used to play that had full engine sound synthesis and it was very good. Live for Speed made by 3 people. Turn 10 should be able to out do the work 3 guys could do ~10 years ago.
@Flexan_Dre6 жыл бұрын
Welp now I know where. Someone says "this stuff isn't difficult" they dont know what they are talking about
@AmplifiedNetherlands6 жыл бұрын
Actually you can. You could even import forza 2 fmod designer files without a hitch. Synthesis can be put on a separate track and also combined with regular sample loops in the same event.
@tyleredwards87146 жыл бұрын
I don't see why once they have a good sound file, can't they just refine it? Add more detail to it (backfire accuracy, reverb off walls, pitch changes for realism etc). I don't understand the need to change things that aren't necessarily a problem or issue.
@VickiVampiressYT6 жыл бұрын
It's not a simple mater of replacing "a sound file". All the sounds you hear in the game belonging to cars consist of an entire set of sound effects. People need to get this into their heads. It's not as simple as just replacing a single audio file, as some of you seem to think.
@tyleredwards87146 жыл бұрын
@@VickiVampiressYT So that's why they can put the F12TDF sound file across 3 cars?
@septiceyesamuwu6 жыл бұрын
@@tyleredwards8714 He means that you have different audiofiles for each RPM. You go from low revs to high revs and the Audiofiles get looped when you hold the gas constant. When you go faster the next file plays and so on. Hope you understand now why its a quite bit of work.
@tyleredwards87146 жыл бұрын
@@septiceyesamuwu I understand that, but that doesn't still explain how they're able to have the same sound files between multiple different cars? The Maloo LS and the Henessey Venom LS are wildly different engines, yet the share the same sounds? My point being is that they wouldn't over complicate something like that because it makes their own job more difficult. There would be a file system in place much like the one used in Assetto Corsa where the engine sounds are contained in one file, which means you can literally replace it with another sound file and that's all it is
@septiceyesamuwu6 жыл бұрын
@@tyleredwards8714 Sorry i missread your comment. I get your point, i think its sad that almost every developer nowadays starts lacking with their quality.
@2008ryanb6 жыл бұрын
Well done playground games, you made the BMW 1M sound like a straight piped e46 m3...
@jaredturney27826 жыл бұрын
It's not always about it sounding better. It's more about a realistic sound. I want the cars to sound like their real life counterparts not some adjusted version just to make people happy with the way a car sounds.
@razermonstrosity62546 жыл бұрын
Thats what people arent happy about. It being unrealistic
@paganiproductions96336 жыл бұрын
Dude these are more unrealistic now. Have you heard the Aventadors v12 in this game? It’s really unrealistic and it sounds hideous. Wish they still had the forza Motorsport 7 v12 Aventador sounds
@GewelReal6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. When I close my eyes I have no idea what the fuck I am listening to
@spacekii6 жыл бұрын
They _are_ annoyed because they're unrealistic. That's why people keep saying half the cars sound the same
@jaredturney27826 жыл бұрын
I think asking if it sounds better is the inncorrect question. The question should be does it sound realistic. I agree forza needs to fix it's shit. But sounding better and realistic are 2 different things.
@TheManWithSomeTypeOfPlan6 жыл бұрын
F1 sounds like it has the V12 noise it deserves Zonda Cinque sounds angry af Zonda R sounds more unique and more loud and racecar like The BMW's you listed sound less generic FXX-K sounds better. So does Laferrari. NEED OLD SOUND FILES FOR R34,R33, AND R32, ALONG WITH OLD SOUND FOR THE 918. ALSO OLD SOUND FOR THE ULTIMA 1020(I think that's the name) in fh3 it sounded crazy, now in fh4 it sounds like I'm dragging my balls across tarmac. Amazing video!
@ollieharrison14006 жыл бұрын
Razor Ray Video maybe because the mclaren has a v12 stock engine
@TheManWithSomeTypeOfPlan6 жыл бұрын
@@ollieharrison1400 I know it does, it dident sound like one before, but the new update, makes it sound like it does and its great
@RobikV36 жыл бұрын
The CInque sounds like shit now, not even close to the real sound WTF
@damianramirez97886 жыл бұрын
THIS ASSHOLE TUNED THE VEHICLES...
@TheManWithSomeTypeOfPlan6 жыл бұрын
@@RobikV3 I've never heard a real life Cinque, but I like the way it sounds in game. It's not bad.
@ElvenMans6 жыл бұрын
They managed to F up the R34... LOL.
@f7or1n6 жыл бұрын
they need the 2f 2f sound :))))))))))
@blitzkrieg-95706 жыл бұрын
@@f7or1n that sound is orgasmic
@p0ck3tzzz6 жыл бұрын
The turbo spool sounds terrible in the r34
@that_boi_kevin45855 жыл бұрын
@@f7or1n nigga shhh
@izayagaming18155 жыл бұрын
@@f7or1n that was actually from a modified R34. The stock R34 in real life sounds much closer to NFS Heat or GT Sport.
@arisupersnake6 жыл бұрын
ak47 chip on gts, fun atleast
@KitsuVilo6 жыл бұрын
Just close as the real one (at least when exhaust valves are open...), sorry for the external link ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/emizqXlofbyqj7M )
@gbrnfallinasleep6 жыл бұрын
@@KitsuVilo i guess the link is broken or maybe the video got taken dowb
@KitsuVilo6 жыл бұрын
@@gbrnfallinasleepoh I saw, just the final parenthesis was doing shit...
@JWM-MT076 жыл бұрын
Still disappointed with some of the sound updates, especially the r34!😪
@refuse2lose_ceo_6 жыл бұрын
If that sound file linked with toyota an any way they won't use it..
@Simon-gj2dd6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m pretty sure the supra and r34 had same file on fh3
@Spherz6 жыл бұрын
The new sound is literally the old one with a raised pitch and more turbo
@MM-su4gu6 жыл бұрын
Duck Duck and the bmw m4
@MM-su4gu6 жыл бұрын
R34 in fh1 was the best
@lazaroskepelek59145 жыл бұрын
Before : sucks After: still sucks
@fastlanegaming5 жыл бұрын
The Lit Driver oh boi i will do another video... this is unacceptable
@Toyota--Camry6 жыл бұрын
It’s getting better, but it’s still far from perfect. -The Skylines could easily be given a better exhaust note. -The M4 got cheated out and sounds like a dying 4AGE with syrup in the exhaust manifold. Some of the miserable sounds, for example, the Gran Turismo, are still prevalent. However, there are some brilliantly crafted sounds. Take the F1 McLaren as an example. It’s beautiful now. The Zonda R was also remastered in a great way. Turn10 is on the right path, but they’re only dipping their toes in the water.
@zeltzintlachinolli28066 жыл бұрын
It's shit
@joshbaker49706 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason they cant take official car audio instead of just trying to mimmick them?
@Toyota--Camry6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Baker I‘m not sure, maybe copyright? That kind of stuff is hard to measure
@nofax56 жыл бұрын
"A delayed game is sometimes good But a rushed game forever bad" You probably said that in japanese
@damgam986 жыл бұрын
What
@kieranoconnor06 жыл бұрын
How did you know lol
@ViralDrive6 жыл бұрын
Every need for speed game ever??
@CorruptSec6 жыл бұрын
Still garbage.. It aint nice to play the game if the sounds are not there... Playground games, thanks for nothing! im a huge forza fan, but these car sounds just wont trigger me to play the game. Im sorry.. I mean like, where are the dsg sounds ? Conclusion, play horizon 2 if u want to play a game with good engine sounds! horizon 3 is also okay.. but horizon 4 is not wurth it for the sounds.. just AWFUL.. Again Thank u Playground games
@jados55046 жыл бұрын
Fun fact; fm5 and everything before it used to have different sound files for every exhaust, if you bought a car, drove it stock, it'd sound like a vaccum, street exhaust a bit beefy, sport exhaust loud, and race exhaust just absolutely screaming, hell you could ever hear when you put a pod filter or lumpy camshaft in, it's just sad to see them go backwards now
@lennartkrischik47574 жыл бұрын
Fh2 has the best sounds
@speedyGamer-fr3gg6 жыл бұрын
The f1 Sound is nice
@seandippnall43736 жыл бұрын
speedy0047 Gamer they need to have the f1 sound on the aventadors
@yozzacup6 жыл бұрын
are you mad
@seandippnall43736 жыл бұрын
speedy0047 Gamer the aventador needs the same v12 sound
@Spherz6 жыл бұрын
@xSeqN no the aventador v12 is actually realistic but it’s just unheard most of the time. The old zonda r sound would fit it good
@seandippnall43736 жыл бұрын
speedy0047 Gamer the aventador sound horrible in this game and fh3 we need something new it’s probably the most popular super in the world
@raptorjeezus26076 жыл бұрын
Remember the good old days of forza 4? Bought an Xbox 360 just for that game and the sounds were just right
@firey1806 жыл бұрын
who doesn't? still have my 360 and a copy of Forza 4 that I got all the back in 2011 when it came out
@tylerworrell44465 жыл бұрын
I honestly wish 4 would become backwards compatible on Xbox One. Unfortunately I don't think that's gonna happen.
@genezy96874 жыл бұрын
I still play forza motorsport 4, it's just awesome
@Commander_Neyo6 жыл бұрын
They need to seriously take the time and actually record sounds instead of half assing it and putting pre recorded sound files from forza 7. The R34 skyline sounds nothing like we wanted and there is so many other cars they need to really work on sound for
@WheeledHamster6 жыл бұрын
jayden 808 Everything souns like a god damn dirt bike.
@Commander_Neyo6 жыл бұрын
zZiL341yRj736 seriously
@pajarogrande4206 жыл бұрын
U sir are correct
@ramgarciia6 жыл бұрын
I can’t agree more with you , the R34 sound is like s**t Why we can’t have that sweet and beautiful RB26 exhaust sound 💔 and de M1 is a twin turbo car not a freaking formula car
@Commander_Neyo6 жыл бұрын
Ramses Garcia listen to the R34 for Assetto corsa it’s the sound we want for forza horizon 4 and they seriously reused the engine files from Forza 7 and it’s really aggravating
@joseyaelpena19906 жыл бұрын
Nope ! The skylines need Fh2 Sound !
@driftyyboi17736 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeeeessssssss please new skyline needs fh2
@AhmedSadiq06 жыл бұрын
nfsu2 stocks skyline sound
@MM-su4gu6 жыл бұрын
R34 from fh1 was the best and R33 from fh3 was the best
@jdmr1c3ing6 жыл бұрын
FH2 had broken interior sounds so no.
@3oclock_Dane5 жыл бұрын
When the la Ferrari downshifts it sounds like a chicken saying ba gock
@BarbecuedPossum6 жыл бұрын
Wow! The supra and evo really sound amazing!.. ;_;
@Thomasside2996 жыл бұрын
:/
@terrabnadia17936 жыл бұрын
Rip
@Thatleochang6 жыл бұрын
Spurs evo still cancelled soz
@gamerlunayt6 жыл бұрын
But neither of those are in the game! WAAAAAAAAAAH! MICROSOFT, PLEASE! I WANT MY TOYOTA BACK!
@MarkBath096 жыл бұрын
The brought back evo :D but not supra ;d
@rarespetru82716 жыл бұрын
that laferrari downshifting sounds like a hen :))))))))))))))))) 6:38
@dylanwakley25536 жыл бұрын
Rares Petru omfg comment of the day 😂😂
@yaboyg20496 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂🤣
@sixfeetmonsta6 жыл бұрын
I can't unhear that now lol
@ashdyna18446 жыл бұрын
Rares Petru hahahahahahah my stomach
@BMWfan915 жыл бұрын
WTF! What happened with the sound of the LaFerrari. In FM6 was it better.
@kaneholmes88606 жыл бұрын
The FXXK went from brutal V12 like it is real life to the same generic Ferrari sound we normally get. It's worse after the update
@goethite19746 жыл бұрын
They need to fix the Charger Hellcat sound. The supercharger sounds like a computer glitch.
@comandermcgarrett77956 жыл бұрын
I have only used the demon so far so i haven't noticed .
@Gotrichinminutes6 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@BLSmith-hh1dx6 жыл бұрын
RIGHT?!?!?!?!?!?! Thought I was the only one to notice that.
@yogie65436 жыл бұрын
It's sad that they improved most of these sounds and they still aren't even close to FH3. No bass and cheap sounding. I feel like there is a kit car under the body of most of these cars. They just sound like a phone app car game. Even some of those sound better. I feel cheated and let down by Turn 10. I LOVE the oomph behind the audio of cars. This is supposed to be an improvement, but the original did better on some sounds years ago.
@txstayballin111116 жыл бұрын
Still no better blow off sounds Forza 😔👉😶
@buckjohn37306 жыл бұрын
This comment should be pinned
@Stage6Rox6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the blow off sounds has to come back 😒😔😭
@em2attic6 жыл бұрын
Need massive flutter and t51r style spooling lol
@jonny111110006 жыл бұрын
Just need blow off valves like the hooligan escort or hoonicorn
@TheBac0nato0r4 жыл бұрын
@@em2attic go work there then
@goethite19746 жыл бұрын
TBH the 1M sound sound like an M2 so I don't know why they haven't just copied it over.
@williampowell90136 жыл бұрын
Paul864 the m2 sounds just like it does in real life though on fh4 it doesn’t need changing at all! I used to own an m2 until a few moths ago and the sound on fh3 was far less authentic compared with fh4 so please don’t change it!
@williampowell90136 жыл бұрын
Paul864 here’s just a quick comparison.... real life: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHe7mZmEopuJh7s vs fh3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqa4lp6Catl5hMk vs fh4 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmmmmmqnnceMaqM
@Sam-dp6ru6 жыл бұрын
William Powell still needs the upshift barks tho
@TheDKgerman6 жыл бұрын
You guys have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The 1er M and the M2 sound extremely different in real life! The 1er M has the N54 engine with 2 single scroll turbochargers and the M2 has the N55 engine with a single twin scroll turbocharger! Dont comment something you clearly have no idea about!
@callumplumb226 жыл бұрын
I would like them to change the sound on the AMGs there's no crackle when changing gears, the whole point of an AMG is that it's supposed to sound mean with a mumble
@RSfandude6 жыл бұрын
Callum Plumb And the gauge clusters please, they look terrible at night, the c63 steering wheel looks like shit too
@szymondurlik57786 жыл бұрын
There is crackle when you shift in A45 AMG. All DSG gearbox equipped cars has that crackle. Just listen to Golf R, Seat (don’t remember model)
@GewelReal6 жыл бұрын
Sooo... They made a lot of sounds even worse?
@TheUselessTrials6 жыл бұрын
The Zonda Cinque's sound got so much worse through the update. It lost almost all it's high pitched screaming, which the real one does a lot of. I can't really enjoy driving it anymore with the new sound :(
@stefandicitrajaya97466 жыл бұрын
the v12 banshee haul losts its sound :(
@japple59336 жыл бұрын
NFS Hot Pursuit nailed their sounds especially the Zondas
@japple59336 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4W1l6qtoMqXfdU
@TokyoDrift4566 жыл бұрын
This exact thing happened to me in my Twin Mill
@factoryrider95376 жыл бұрын
Naahh before it just sounded like a huge audio mess, which it was, now it's just not a horrible audio mess anymore
@sleinzer23026 жыл бұрын
Okay I‘ll give you my take on the sounds: R34: I think they just used the sound file from FM7 R33&32: Disappointing that they didn’t change their sounds and the FH3 sound would be a lot better, BUT I think it’s too high pitched. Tbh none of the Forza RB26‘s sound like real ones, NFS 2015 and Payback are pretty close to a stock RB26 exhaust note. BMW M4: They could have used the GTSs new sound BMW M2: They could have just used the sound file from FH3 BMW 1M: same as above the FH3 1M was way more realistic than the updated sound BMW M4 GTS: base sound is good but the backfire is shit Viper: I think I don’t have to say anything about that La Ferrari: The new sound is good but it’s pretty lazy that they didn’t alter it at all from the F12 TDF FXXK: same thing as above Civic: I think it sounds the same as the F&F Eclipse from FH2 and the Miata from FH4 GT S: the sound is ok but not as good or realistic as the FH3 one P1: that’s just lazy the cars don’t sound the same IRL too... F1: Now that is a nice new sound! Zonda Cinque: doesn’t sound as unnatural an fabricated anymore, pretty good but not that close to real life Zonda R: sounds pretty nice now, more natural and not as computer-generated 918: Why wouldn’t they use the FH3 sound? It’s so much nicer and more realistic, why would they even make the effort of creating a new sound if it’s worse than the one from the previous game?
@mooz2x6 жыл бұрын
Sleinzer the m4 gts has a competition pack exhaust
@chrisahn23986 жыл бұрын
its because t10 is just extremely lazy and in reality does NOT care about our opinion. it took them years just to add minimal customization into the game, and at this point they’re just putting in such little effort to newer releases and claim they’re ‘fixing’ things that shouldn’t ever have been problems. Forza fanboys still buy the game, which is beyond me, but it’s not rocket science to realize this ‘sound update’ is a whole lotta bullshit and actually a downgrade.
@AlaborateKane6 жыл бұрын
So basiclly we got zonda R's sound in this patch. Now i got it. Thanks man.
@ByteGuy6 жыл бұрын
@Trap Galaxy what's so hard about doing a little copy and paste from Forza Horizon 3 to Forza Horizon 4 and change the file attributes. All the sounds in that game where great and theywent to the effort of making new terrible awful disgusting ear hurting noises for there cars in Forza Horizon 4
@mako81376 жыл бұрын
훈 Chris Ahn안 경 what a dumbass your are omg. If you don’t like it,get over yourself and gtfo. Again : THEY JUST CAN’T USE SOUND FILES FROM PREVIOUS GAMES, isn’t that clear enough ?
@trojankid42526 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait till they add anti lag or 2 step
@moaimachines82905 жыл бұрын
I don't think you know what anti lag or a 2 step is.
@TheBac0nato0r4 жыл бұрын
@@moaimachines8290 I think he does and not you
@RLDRM346 жыл бұрын
The r34 sounds nothing like the real deal...and it was better before the update
@amregg40816 жыл бұрын
R34L DR34M hell no
@SoheiJayce6 жыл бұрын
The 2F2F one from FM6 sounded amazing.
@nothorizon96136 жыл бұрын
I see what you did in your name
@fabloink88126 жыл бұрын
The backfire on the M4 GTS sounds like from fallout 4 when you get rads
@-thebatman-6 жыл бұрын
Geiger counter
@mapexmanadam6 жыл бұрын
The new sounds are cack! Sounds like ridge racer on ps1!!
@Aportalfromheaven6 жыл бұрын
You should have the real cars to compare aswell
@codymarsh2526 жыл бұрын
you cant do that, Theres just too many ways people alter the sound of their vehicle with too many different exhaust available. it would be hard to find a clip and be like "make it sound like this!"
@buckjohn37306 жыл бұрын
@@codymarsh252 i agree, screamer pipes and a cat back exhaust are very different, and yet again a turbo piped exhaust or even just an ebay bolt on exhaust. Ive had 3 commodores sound different yet all had the same engine. Very hard to master an exhaust note
@nothorizon96136 жыл бұрын
You know how hard it is to find a clean stock skyline? It's almost impossible.
@Aportalfromheaven6 жыл бұрын
@@nothorizon9613 I'd still be cool to have some of the real cars as long as it isn't engine swapped.
@codymarsh2526 жыл бұрын
@@Aportalfromheaven i feel like they would catch too much negativity if they only used some real cars. Theyd miss some iconic muscle car or import andnthe next thing you know everyone is saying they hate muscle heads or they hate drifters ect.. we all know how this community gets when their flavor of motorsport/ cars are ignored.
@davidblees90046 жыл бұрын
I am not sure about the skyline EDIT: HOLY FUCK 102 LIKES
@arthurperes33996 жыл бұрын
Sounds like 2jz...
@agent20001520146 жыл бұрын
David blees it’s between 1K to 6K rpm it’s good but over no
@agent20001520146 жыл бұрын
Arthur Peres your a dumbass😀
@arthurperes33996 жыл бұрын
@@agent2000152014 stupid
@BollocksToThat6 жыл бұрын
M1 sounds worse
@dererzfeind38566 жыл бұрын
Wut
@kylergross6 жыл бұрын
PJ Adamson MUCH WORSE...
@kylergross6 жыл бұрын
PJ Adamson sounds like a fucking PS2 racing game from 2005
@dantemazzarella43376 жыл бұрын
Sounds terrible
@f7or1n6 жыл бұрын
The M1 sound like a car from Gran Turismo 6 :DDD
@ReboyGTR6 жыл бұрын
So they changed the R34 but not the R32 and R33? Even though they all share *the same engine....* *WTSF Turn10!*
@HoweDoYouDo19996 жыл бұрын
ReboyGTR IM PISSED😂😂
@pxrplexed35016 жыл бұрын
Uh they dont share the same motor
@HoweDoYouDo19996 жыл бұрын
Classic Gamma true😂
@benlafferty44056 жыл бұрын
CleanMotorSport RacingAssociation in game they do...
@kieranoconnor06 жыл бұрын
They do but will have different exhaust channels so will sound slightly different between them.
@play3rggg6 жыл бұрын
Omg yes. I love this gane soooo much we needed this a lot. They actually care 'bout us! Thanks for the likes R34 got worse
@yaboix45346 жыл бұрын
I hope they fix the skylines soon tbh. they need to either use the fh3 skyline r33, or find a real life skyline and record the sound files for it.
@xypleth6 жыл бұрын
The new car sounds are disappointing. Yes, they listened, yes they added some diversity, but most of those updated sounds sound even worse... They sound like a low effort quick "fix" to shush the community
@vinifxavier6 жыл бұрын
@@xypleth I think these developers don't know youtube or instagram, what is the difficulty of searching for a sound in the internet and just replicate it? I don't think they have brains either, such a disappointment.
@miniraph99216 жыл бұрын
@@vinifxavier do u even know anything about coding stop crying like a lil bitch and play the game as it is and if you don't like the sound of a car then don't use it
@vinifxavier6 жыл бұрын
@@miniraph9921 If you like paying for a ass made game keep giving your money to these assholes, I'm just making a point that is not hard to replicate a sound, shut up asswipe fanboy. And yes, I know nothing about coding, I know about cars, LMAO.
@enriquedavid17056 жыл бұрын
R34 sounds worse, but that M4 GTS sounds good, but a little less backfire would be nice. LaFerrari sounds horrible at idle and when downshifting. 1M is nice.
@INTEGRA_TKL Жыл бұрын
The down shift on the lafarrari sounds good he just doing it wrong
@thoubanandeibam79616 жыл бұрын
It must be some hard work and time consuming checking all those sounds. Hard work will pay off buddy. Nice vid as always
@dehcaptain6 жыл бұрын
It really baffles me that they wouldn't just reuse the sounds that actually were great. Like this stuff isn't difficult.
@caliber50296 жыл бұрын
Deh Captain forreal
@carsonj40316 жыл бұрын
Maybe people have a different opinion of "great"
@Sightstoned6 жыл бұрын
I don't think you understand how complex it is to just copy coding for sounds and put it in another game.. There's a lot that you prob don't understand tho.
@uchihasasu26 жыл бұрын
@@carsonj4031 irk lol if they reuse the so call Great sound form before people would jud say they are lazy for not updating they bad sound from FH3
@Freznosis6 жыл бұрын
Coding for the control of the engine sound isn't the same as producing an engine sound. The game uses the same code for all engine sounds, so there isn't any problem there. The sound banks that Forza uses are various sound clips of RPM's blended together to create a rev range, similar to the sounds in games like Assetto Corsa (FMOD type program.) So yes, they could quite literally copy over previous sounds because the sound design code hasn't drastically changed since Forza 5.
@JerryTheStoner6 жыл бұрын
The updated Cinque sounds like a supercharged SL65 AMG from Need for Speed Most Wanted '05 Is that good or bad?
@batutasci6 жыл бұрын
Zonda using AMG engine blocks i guess?
@trill-taco6 жыл бұрын
I'm still pissed about the sounds
@pashkos13326 жыл бұрын
So am I bro
@deepdiamond50456 жыл бұрын
except m4 gts and f1
@malakihall39566 жыл бұрын
At least they're working on it, so that's a good thing
@williampowell90136 жыл бұрын
Yep they made the zonda 5 sound worse 😕 really hope they don’t change the m2 though it sounds so realistic they don’t need to change it!
@trill-taco6 жыл бұрын
@@malakihall3956 yea true
@MikeGubisch6 жыл бұрын
I’m really happy they are listening
@DatBlueVQ6 жыл бұрын
- Mikeg.lifts - Are they though... they made the R34 worse
@Bababooey1286 жыл бұрын
They made the r34 a little better if you hear an r34 it has a higher pitch tone than in the game
@MikeGubisch6 жыл бұрын
Idk. All I know is this is a positive step in the right direction. The Laf definitely sounds better now. Similar to driveclub WHICH IS GOOD. This means turn 10 Is listening
@anthonymarland6376 жыл бұрын
They all sound higher pitched...idk how they keep messing up the sounds!!
@zthreetwo98746 жыл бұрын
I think they did good with 10% of the cars.
@ATomatoIsAFruit6 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest. This sound update is overall bad. The Skyline R34 was given a Flat-6 for some reason. The GT-R LM was promising but gets extremely synthetic and weak at the higher revs. The BMW 1M somehow is done the other way around and exaggerated. Pitch is too low, still highly synthetic and lacking bass. M4 GTS is way off. LaFerrari is too raspy. FXXK sounds, ironically, like a more muffled LaFerrari. Mclaren F1, I'm actually somewhat pleased with! It's too raspy down low, but some of the synthetic tin resonance is gone. It sadly goes around to the other end, and has traces of the Aventador V12 in it... Zonda Cinque is horribly done. The original was kinda close, just way too rough and still with some resonance, now it's like it's swapped with a completely different engine. Zonda R is around the same level, which is why we can't have nice things. If it's not exceedingly raspy, it's too low pitched and resonant.
@PorscheGTRSWeissach6 жыл бұрын
A Tomato Exactly! But F1 sound great now, Zonda R too, finally! Most Skylines, all V12 Ferraris and all Aventador-based Lambos are still sounding bad... Somehow, I like the old Maserati 300S and the Mercedes 300SLR! THEY sound great!!! ;-)
@xVwraithVx6 жыл бұрын
i thought the exact same about the f1 sounding a bit like an aventador lol. still, it doesn’t sound to bad so i might actually buy the car.
@TMS_Yurei6 жыл бұрын
Tbh the cinque sounds like ass. Idk if It was more realistic in forza motor sport 7 but it sounded heavenly at high rpm in that game. Especially with the can fully upgraded.
@Damijet6 жыл бұрын
The r34 now has the sound from forza 7 but it’s a different game so the sound doesn’t mix with the physics. It was a good match for forza 7 physics and sound design. Not fh4
@gabrielevalentini44386 жыл бұрын
About the F1: I'm not only who heard a bit of Aventador in that sound😂
@quintenbronsveld65016 жыл бұрын
All the V12 Ferrari's sound the same, im so disappointed..
@timo12946 жыл бұрын
They use almost the same motors
@yaboix45346 жыл бұрын
they all have the same v12s tho..😅
@billyshenon60476 жыл бұрын
do you think when you have 450+ cars each one should sound like real life
@quintenbronsveld65016 жыл бұрын
@@billyshenon6047 yes!
@vikon926 жыл бұрын
So give developers more money and more time to record all the cars. Do you want to pay more for the game? Do you want to wait for the game more?
@jerrybillings30396 жыл бұрын
"Same sound as the Senna, 720S & 650S" *Well...they all use the same 3.8L twin-turbo V8, so they're bound to sound the same.*
@VaJohn6 жыл бұрын
The Pagani Zonda CR sounds like it has a cold.
@Blaznchicken6 жыл бұрын
They Made the R34 sound even worse…, the M4 is WAAYYY to high pitched those cars should shake your house when they drive by, the Zonda c still sounds terrible the Zonda R is ok it sounds better but still terrible.
@Krysstophe6 жыл бұрын
Anyone here ever play test drive unlimited 1 or 2 for the pc? Well there was quite a big modding community, and as a result sound mods for cars would be a major mixed bag; sometimes sounding pretty bad tbh. This reminds me of that exactly. The sounds seem to be created by people who don’t seem to know what they’re doing....
@LydellG46 жыл бұрын
I miss TDU 🙁
@gowen_places_54716 жыл бұрын
Better or worse imo or compared to the real thing? IMO, the updated car sounds are not adequate and do not compare to the sound of the real cars. Great video, and I hope they just put in FH3 sounds! Poor Zonda, there needs to be justice.
@DIZEUUL_6 жыл бұрын
Again nice video Bro !
@victorrd6 жыл бұрын
You are the best !
@xatte90386 жыл бұрын
DIZEUUL lol whats soo good about this?
@connorshaw72036 жыл бұрын
Did you try anything outside of Edinburgh? Since the sound echoes I wonder if that would make the GTR's sound more like normal. Not sure if it would just a thought
@pamnthi6 жыл бұрын
The 918 was a victim
@romanefimenco68976 жыл бұрын
I don't know about the gt-r family but the M4 Gts, Laferrari and Zonda R sounds mutch better after the update
@CrazyWeeMonkey6 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's your audio settings but most of the newer sounds sound kinda compressed compared to the previous sounds, like the dynamic range is worse.
@krocialblack6 жыл бұрын
Gran Tursimo sounds get better. Forza sounds get worse... And is nobody going to bring up the FC3S RX7? Sounds like dookie in the interior. Pretty much all these cars sound like dookie in the interior... Fire the sound design guy.
@stevechristian74776 жыл бұрын
They've made a tiny improvement to the FD but in all honesty none of the rotarys actually sound that good. The only good one is the Spirit R which sounds decent yet they can't use that file for the others, even though its already in the game?? #justiceforrotaries lol
@nomade86896 жыл бұрын
Never.
@randymarsh47486 жыл бұрын
you know why? because the old sound design guy from forza went to gran turismo
@i6ixxr6 жыл бұрын
thank god somebody agrees, the rx7 is so fuckin trash. fh3 had it down packed, they need to get the file from that game and make the idle louder
@mhrn.13096 жыл бұрын
Forza Horizon, yes, Forza Motorsports, no. The team is nearly forced to put a lot of time, detail, and attention into Forza Motorsports because of the competing games and audience. The team needs more time and allowance to make the game excellent. It also took a long time to finalize Forza Horizon 3 so I think we should give the team more time. After all, they did come with the brilliant idea to have #FORZATHON more expanded and to bring the community much more together with all the online stuff you can do now. They also added the seasons' update to make things much more interesting.
@user-km7sf1gj1i6 жыл бұрын
rs3 has now farts but still not loud enough
@kiwigaming97176 жыл бұрын
timo thank fuck
@speedbeast95333 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or The FXXK use to have the sound file of the 599xxe
@dudders42336 жыл бұрын
I’d much rather less cars but each car with a unique sound even with engine swaps
@comandermcgarrett77956 жыл бұрын
The sound file for the viper would work better on a v8, not the v10. I still dont want the fh3 v10 sound. A v10 with a little of a deeper tone would fit.
@atm31ac215 жыл бұрын
Listening to the FH3 RB26 noises gives me chills
@DCFTW686 жыл бұрын
Wow, it sounds like they used an equalizer software to tune the files and just copied it back in. So realistc, NIIICE. 🙄👍
@terraincognitagaming6 жыл бұрын
Its funny, they could easily replicate alot of the sounds these cars make IRL purely digitally. (replicate is the word) But instead they decide to give us some electric guitars, keyboards and fucking vacuum cleaners.
@emperorpalpatine30886 жыл бұрын
tfw forza horizon has become gran turismo
@TKgolf4life6 жыл бұрын
M4gts Sounds pretty real and sick now. Shots reminded me of iraq is Gold:D
@carmadblanty52626 жыл бұрын
R34 sounds dreadful and way too high pitched we need a deeper exhaust note
@gabrielwerneck83396 жыл бұрын
T
@MM-su4gu6 жыл бұрын
R34 from fh1 was the best
@jdmr1c3ing6 жыл бұрын
If it was slightly lower pitch it would sound like a stock RB.
@Apocalyptical896 жыл бұрын
The engine sounds on FH3 were so good overral, what went wrong!
@justinthebus40274 жыл бұрын
with the m4 GTS, it sounds like the real car with the sound update, but it had a echoing sound to it which spoils the sound.
@Lost_Shrine6 жыл бұрын
Finally! I have been waiting for this video! Great video dude! I still think they should have changed sounds on more of the cars! And done some they did fix better. Keep up the work!
@supercarsofboston50376 жыл бұрын
SAME
@rafamunoz32136 жыл бұрын
Rt
@yogie65436 жыл бұрын
Great video and attention to detail! It's awesome when people do research and do good comparison videos.
@youngrotor46206 жыл бұрын
1:20 the rb26 sounds like the rb26 from fm7
@tysoniswolfed4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Porsche 911.
@frag116 жыл бұрын
Feels like they made changes to say "hey guys look we listened and made changes". There are sounds from FH2 that were perfect and then changed. There were sounds in FH3 that were perfect and then changed. These guys are clowns.
@TheBac0nato0r4 жыл бұрын
Fuck you
@tim97836 жыл бұрын
They need to add spacers for the bmw e 36!!
@SoMiSongbird6 жыл бұрын
Barthelmy Tim Also to the M-B E63 as well now that we’re at it
@Brocken876 жыл бұрын
U r so damn right bro ✌️
@SoheiJayce6 жыл бұрын
The 2F2F skyline from FM6 was my favorite sounding Skyline R34 from the Forza franchise..... And that turbo spool. Should do a turbo spool vid.
@tysoniswolfed4 жыл бұрын
It sound Best
@marselo26886 жыл бұрын
Let's sing a petition to use the old sounds
@beefcake976 жыл бұрын
!!!
@silascarstens47366 жыл бұрын
the backfire of m4 gts sounds a little to crazy
@joel_stls74716 жыл бұрын
Sounds like water bubbles on a GoPro😂
@baker5008776 жыл бұрын
"a little"
@darknid1586 жыл бұрын
José Carlos Baranda idk man there's a dude at my college who drives a BMW (I can never tell which one it is, i always just hear it) and it has the same backfire sounds of the M4 gts
@chriswyc35035 жыл бұрын
The m4 gts sounds so good! It’s like an m3/4 with m performance exhaust in real life
@hydraz14436 жыл бұрын
Not sure what the hell they were thinking with some/most of these updates
@ummissicsaleatorio72823 жыл бұрын
How difficult is it for everyone in the gaming industry to put Brian's Skyline sound on? That's what everyone wants and they know
@SlowKlone6 жыл бұрын
SO happy the F1 got updated, has that iconic V12 sound now.
@dedmajor6 жыл бұрын
My favourite change is the F1. Before it sounded so synthetic but now it actually sounds like a car rather than an RC car lol
@Jean_Guedes6 жыл бұрын
Looks like the graphics are looking better too?🤔
@yaboidarkrai19206 жыл бұрын
Jean yeah true looks way better, better contrast
@ThePepe9696 жыл бұрын
No... It's just different weather/time of the day
@somebodyyy996 жыл бұрын
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES you can finally hear the Turbos of the R34...that always bugged me in H3 lol
@ilmeccanico93356 жыл бұрын
The best sound updates are: McLaren F1😍😍😍 Zonda R😍😍😍 The baddest are : Zonda Roadster Porsche 918