U gonna be sharing any life stuff? Im not expecting but no shit ive missed you homie! Hows life whats up hows the weather 🤷🏽♂️
@wejhvabewjty3 жыл бұрын
Diablo GTR
@GatitoCarreras3 жыл бұрын
Feel like there is way less grip on any car compared to horizon 4, handling and grip feels like 3 again for some reason
@ellessidil3 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, was almost as excited for FH5 in the hope of seeing you release more content again as I was for the game itself. Love your work, thanks for the awesome videos!
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Made my day, mate! :)
@feuerrm3 жыл бұрын
It's good to see you back! :)
@EenGamer.3 жыл бұрын
1:37 "we are stuck behind EenGamer" *overtakes on the straight in handling car*
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
RIP
@marksutherlandjr.21212 жыл бұрын
I just built my first starter Sim setup with Next Level Cockpit, LG920 Wheel, Pedals and Shifter.. So I'm going back and grabbing new tunes, and basically re-learning to drive now with a wheel. I downloaded the Spread sheet with all the videos and builds. What an INCREDIBLE rescorce this has proven to be. New Sub here!
@Johnson_Racing2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear that. Welcome to the team. :)
@robertg4203 жыл бұрын
A similar guide for A-class would be amazing. I'm not good enough to race S2/X class unfortunately and can barely hang in S1 lol
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
it's on the agenda! :)
@dankosanchez51353 жыл бұрын
A lot of these s1 cars have phenomenal tunes on a as well such as the 2017 focus
@jessestone77452 жыл бұрын
I use the Connie hoonigan it’s a great a class option & you can use it for dirt races
@findunster42962 жыл бұрын
@@dankosanchez5135 try the hoonigan rs200 just found a tune and it’s literally perfect
@mike39632 жыл бұрын
You’ll get there man. If you ever want to play together and get some tips and have fun then just let me know and I can give my gamer tag. I’ve been playing since horizon 1 but in the last year I hadn’t been able to play much but I’ve started getting back into it.
@Paragleiber3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video! Quite surprising to see a Ford Focus as a top S1 car. I don't think I ever noticed that one in FH4 personally. I also didn't expect the Lola to be good for dirt but then again we also had the Speed 12 as a great dirt car in FH4, lol.
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
yooo Para :)
@ben2cameron3 жыл бұрын
The Lola was really good in FH4, but mostly rivals specific because it was such a challenge to drive.
@ESVMars3 жыл бұрын
was great fun to be apart of this session, ggs
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
see you next time bud!
@xboxbenny3 жыл бұрын
Tried out your GTR 02 tune for A class yesterday ah man it's so good.
@elimszero453 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're back.
@KingCliveThe17th3 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could make a new tuning guide? When I'm tuning my cars, I never know if I should try and do it in a realistic way, or if it's as broken as it was in the last game.
@WeAreThePeople16903 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sounds good. I often make cars worse when i try and tune them. Drift cars i can tune to do what i want, but for racing i usually just give up and download a tune.
@Nelith553 жыл бұрын
Broken like last game tunes are speeding my cars up in FH5.
@ben2cameron3 жыл бұрын
Watch Hoki Hoshi's guide
@Nelith553 жыл бұрын
@@ben2cameron HokiHoshi's FH4 guide was trash IMO. Do any pro's his tunes? Johnson racing's guide made my cars so much faster. The game just doesn't work like Hoki thinks it does.
@ben2cameron3 жыл бұрын
@@Nelith55 if you don't know what you're doing, it's a fair intro. If you're looking to set top 1% rivals times I would just use top tuners.
@bsmracing65923 жыл бұрын
glad to see you active again.
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
:)
@modellbaugecko31152 жыл бұрын
I did a list with tuned S1 900 cars in FH4 with the Goliath track to get who’s the fastest and I was so confused because the Lamborghini Diablo SV and the Nissan R390 were the best in all categories :0 But also many Ferraris did. great at this!
@Gennosuke843 жыл бұрын
Das ist einfach der beste Kanal.. danke für den ganzen free content. Subbed and liked 💪
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Danke dir und willkommen :)
@etrcentenario97373 жыл бұрын
Damn the centenario is in this video, I totally have no bias with this car whatsoever and am indifferent to it being good
@ericbruscoe5956 Жыл бұрын
The tune on the focus isn't working anymore..do you have a link or code to a new one ?
@scoopskites2 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not the NSX-R GT makes a fabulous s1 rally.
@harrisonspencer19773 жыл бұрын
Gonna miss using my Alfa 33s stradale for dirt this year :(
@ryuk56733 жыл бұрын
Same dood
@J-STX54693 жыл бұрын
That blue Jaguar is amazing. I love the way it handles around high speed corners. So fun to drive.
@yaboi_linkan69942 жыл бұрын
Where do i buy it
@J-STX54692 жыл бұрын
@@yaboi_linkan6994 You can't really "buy" it. You can possibly get it through the auction house, but the original way to get it is by finding as a barn find in the main game.
@J-STX54692 жыл бұрын
As you further progress through the game, you will eventually come across it.
@TRIBULXTIONS3 жыл бұрын
Much love Johnson. ❤
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
love back to you!
@tommyruggiero3 жыл бұрын
The TVR Speed 12 is a great alternative to the Lola for Dirt/CC racing if you want something different. I have found it to be equally fast but more unique. Its pretty rare to find someone else running it online and fun to drive around the Lola users thinking they are driving the Meta.
@HansWurst-I Жыл бұрын
I agree. Fun to drive and my first choice while driving in dirt.
@Mercy1-3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe he's fucking back thanks missed you
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
heeeey :)
@ronhamm12462 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good content!!!👍
@Johnson_Racing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@lucasmills99593 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to try that focus! Great video. Also I hope they ban that jaguar lol. And the boneshaker.
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Also try the Diablo GTR from the spreadsheet! :)
@sebasmvb3 жыл бұрын
yesss Attax is backkkk
@h99gaming143 жыл бұрын
Man, how I missed those videos!!
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
weeehhh
@asurfingsilver29223 жыл бұрын
GOT MY FIRST EVER BACK 2 BACK WIN WITH THE JAGUAR XJR on FH5. I started on forza 4 late into its life cycle and never got an S1 WIN. THANK YOUU JOHNSONNNNNN!!!
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Awesome achievement, mate!
@rysi0k1103 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 30k subs!
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
thanks monsieur!
@fero50703 жыл бұрын
Hes back! :D
@m4ntis6223 жыл бұрын
#BringBackTheFaceCam we miss our German potato🥺
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
maybe I only have one eye nowadays :O
@zaphy63423 жыл бұрын
@@Johnson_Racing less eyes is preferable for potatoes
@nightdrvavenger20873 жыл бұрын
i had hopes.. but the awd meta is back..
@blooderx13 жыл бұрын
Nice video and explaining man, I hope you do that for all classes used in online like B,A and S2.
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! :)
@livinlife773 жыл бұрын
There more cars that I want to say. Circuits: bac mono, ford super van Mid speed: 20 Supra, corvette c8, Lamborghini huracan Enjoyed the video
@MrHenhen53 жыл бұрын
The mono is a beast but as you said it doesn't have the top speed for some layouts.
@blackopslegendswe3 жыл бұрын
Is Nissan nissmo gt-r lm in this game same as Nissan gt-r lm fe in horizon 4?
@ttr_coco3 жыл бұрын
Always awesome to see these videos, thanksies you glorious German potato
@B3LoW_aVeRaGe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the races, hope to be there next time
@MvP17073 жыл бұрын
I like to use the Vuhl 05RR in the S1 Class (RWD) but I also used for some time the 250 GTO, maybe you can check the Vuhl too in some of your next races.
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the suggestion :)
@zaphy63423 жыл бұрын
Do you know a good Ford GT tune that's not aesthetically ruined by huge rear rims?
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Not yet since it's the way to make the most out of it. :)
@ESVMars3 жыл бұрын
Huge rear rims is the best build for it, so any good build will use them
@dennisjungbauer44673 жыл бұрын
I'm also curious about one without the spoiler; there was a great tune by Grandma Driving (ISAD) in FH4. I don't have the car yet to check, though. But I also used the one from Nalak28, awesome for sure, I just dislike the Forza spoiler on many cars.^^
@Zika0133 жыл бұрын
thank you brother *_*
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great, but tricky tune ;)
@CODCAOS3 жыл бұрын
A LENDA DAS TUNE
@merbuhk Жыл бұрын
I knew the Centenario would pop up. I made a decent tune myself. It can reach about 360+ KMH, very good acceleration and very balanced in medium and fast corners. It's good in slow corners too, but I guess some cars can beat it in that regard, also in terms of Top speed, but the overall package is very pleasing. And due to the fact, I was able to make a competitive tune by myself, I'm most likely to stick with it. Should fight for wins on all tracks except Highway only.
@JumanjiG3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for more vids
@WillFuI3 жыл бұрын
How good is the viper acr in this game compared to last. Not the new one or the barnfind
@xxKURTMANxx3 жыл бұрын
A class next please. Also you saying AWD instead of all wheel drive cracks me up lol.
@Darkenixx3 жыл бұрын
No S1 Cross Country Vehicles? I only need a S1 car for Cross Country and then I am set. Any suggestions?
@fastlanegaming3 жыл бұрын
Ayer vi ese XJR corriendo adelante de mi pensando que diablos paso ahi 🤣Me dio un tiempo duro con mi Huracan Perfomante, pero lo voy a tunear con RWD ahora 😂😂🤙🏾
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Why is your comment in Spanish? :D
@pkrskinkaphant46123 жыл бұрын
lol
@_m.a.y.o_3 жыл бұрын
the confusion LULW
@Kartin993 жыл бұрын
Well he's basically saying he saw that XJR racing in front of him and he was thinking what the hell is going on there. It gave him a hard time with his Huracán Performante, but he's gonna tune it RWD now.
@fastlanegaming3 жыл бұрын
@@Johnson_Racing oh man, keine Ahnung warum aber ich dachte du sprichst auch Spanisch aber du bist ja aus dem Nachbarsland 😂💀 Ich hatte den XJR auch Online gesehen und mich gefragt was bei dem abgeht 😂😂😂 h
@EJ-xp1qx3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see best S2 cars!
@Faust_0023 жыл бұрын
Apollo ie, mc-12, 599xx evo
@dougsracingchannel94563 жыл бұрын
I tried a race in a sesto elemento Forza ed. Last night. It says its awd, but it literally started and handled identical to a high power rwd car.
@callumpatmore6533 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love S1 racing, have you tried using the GT40 MK2? I made a RWD tune for it and it hangs surprisingly well with good throttle control. I considered making it AWD to be more meta but it’s genuinely fun to drive and not at all unmanageable
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
I'll check it out!
@callumpatmore6533 жыл бұрын
@@Johnson_Racing I hope you enjoy the car as much as I do. It’s not on the level of the Elise GT1 or 05 Ford but it’s definitely a lot of fun. I really enjoy your channel btw! Looking forward to seeing more videos of you racing, you’re very good.
@BTN4543 жыл бұрын
Nalak can be the best tuner in this game :) I wish he teaches us how
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
LEGEND
@kylen64303 жыл бұрын
Could you recommend could tracks you act as a proxy for testing?…for example, which one is good to test build/tune for handling vs speed?
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Horizon Mexico is pretty good for accel/overall. Emerald is good for handling. Some of the sprints are good for allround as well.
@terrylu48943 жыл бұрын
love you guy~
@-Siftn3 жыл бұрын
Hey Johnson! Have you tried build a formula drift car but race spec? I made a Rwd drag tire build on the FD Ferrari, I tuned it for drifting but it just went way too fast not losing traction, in s1 too!
@DevilWolf0003 жыл бұрын
Nissan R390 is the best S1 class road racing car if you know how to tune it, that car by far the best grip with decent speed
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Will look that up!
@brofist86962 жыл бұрын
Don't suppose you have a tune you'd recommend? LOVE that car, just can't seem to get it dialed in tuning wise tho.
@anguswalker1233 жыл бұрын
Hi mate. You gonna rank/research Class A/B/Offroad/Dirt/Winter cars like you did for FH4? Your spreadsheet is awesome! Guided my entire FH4 experience.
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
in the making :)
@harlyquin3 жыл бұрын
6:10 great tune and it gets the job done but i dont understand why its geared up so high, it has a 7 speed box but i never got out of 5th, is there a reason for this?
@authenticNL29 ай бұрын
PI from extra weight from gearbox, and maybe 5 gears allows for better traction
@bibilaterreur54783 жыл бұрын
would you advise TCR for the jaguar? or does that kill its speed?
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
It will lose some of its power, but it's probably still decent.
@EFC_BRIZIO3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for S2 and tunes 😍😍😍
@lukast57953 жыл бұрын
How can I get the Ford GT (2005)?
@PoRRasturvaT3 жыл бұрын
All I need to know is I put my Mazda RX7 right in between XJR-15s and NSXR-GTs on the Marathon leaderboard. When equipped with a widebody kit, it definitely has a spot in your video.
@witutekashiwashiwoo83212 жыл бұрын
I haven’t tried the wide body kit on the rx7 yet but I love the car. Do you happen to have a tune code that I can try?
@snakeNP2152 жыл бұрын
In rwd or awd?
@giggity46703 жыл бұрын
The best I found was the Ford GT 2017 the braking and grip it has is amazing I always 1st on normal races and the online ones I can be half a lap ahead with the GT. It was the same on horizon 3 was amazing car but some reason on 4 it was rubbish but now it is back for 5 must of copy and paste it over from 3 as it is good again try it out you will no regret it.
@MrHenhen53 жыл бұрын
I used it for rivals and it did me well but trying to break into the top 1,000 on emerald circuit and it just doesn't cut it anymore sadly, but on a longer track it would probably still be great. The elise gt1 is the best I've found so far and the BAC Mono deserves a shout.
@BeamersX3 жыл бұрын
Good Content 👌😊
@CP9Des3 жыл бұрын
2008 viper acr is a top tier car as well. posted %1 on most rivals w it
@karanduaphotography2 жыл бұрын
I want to know for traction should we keep off or on for online races ? Using controller on series x
@Johnson_Racing2 жыл бұрын
I don't use it. :)
@anthonybrown33633 жыл бұрын
The Corvette is crazy
@pantelisk12193 жыл бұрын
why cant i find the ford GT 05 in the autoshow??
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
I think it's unlocked via accolade challenges. However, you can get it on the auction house for a reasonable price. :)
@Suimin033 жыл бұрын
good video 🙂
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks OP friend!
@GatitoCarreras3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tunes to try out, without them it would be harder for us to figure out a competitive tune
@c_breezy843 жыл бұрын
Try the boc mono awd
@rawhidelamp2 жыл бұрын
One of the best anti-meta cars for S1 Cross Country is the Rally Fighter That thing is INSANE
@snakeNP2152 жыл бұрын
What car is that?
@rawhidelamp2 жыл бұрын
@@snakeNP215 Local Motors Rally Fighter
@BMWZEPHYR2 жыл бұрын
I've been racking up stupid amounts of wins using a TVR speed 12 as an S1 rally car its insanely fast!
@jluvsfamily3 жыл бұрын
Is tuning relatively the same as in FH4
@riuthora75843 жыл бұрын
I tried the Focus RS 2017 with the suggested tuning on a Cross Country race but was a nightmare to handle... is it just me or I'm missing something?
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
It's a road car, not made for cross country.
@DeerPlot3 жыл бұрын
Is the ford gt better with the Viper motor or the f50gt motor ?
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Viper
@DeerPlot3 жыл бұрын
@@Johnson_Racing awesome thanks 🙏🏻
@officialbrandonclarkll Жыл бұрын
Ahhh OnlyNaps the owner of the best f1 gt tune on FH3
@maurits12493 жыл бұрын
get in there another video. shame youtube doesn't have the goat johnson emote
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
time to start a petition ;)
@FredericEllsworth1043 жыл бұрын
Now let's see about S2. Because I'm pretty sure the F40 C is still decent in S2, but I'm unsure about the 599XX Evo or 918. P.S. The AM Valhalla is actually amazing at stock when you race in Horizon Solo. Never lost a race in it even on higher difficulties.
@Faust_0023 жыл бұрын
They both a good ones, but 599xx evo is slightly better, at least before we will see the best tunes
@keiichi13 жыл бұрын
Nissan GTR R35 is a handling monster when tuned
@Nelith553 жыл бұрын
How are you doing VS unbeatable drivertars? If you're having issues, I will feel better.
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
It depends, sometimes it's easy, sometimes they're really unbeatable, mostly on circuit races.
@Nelith553 жыл бұрын
@@Johnson_Racing I used your tuning guide and Im setting my cars up the same in FH5. Would really like another for this game. It really was the best way to tune in 4. Thanks to your suggestion on 05 ford GT I can so far reliably beat unbeatable.
@vaulthunterfromterra40533 жыл бұрын
Other fun S1 mobiles: Road/Grip - barn find Jaguar Offroad/Speed - TVR Speed 12 Offroad/Speed - Veyron SS Road/Speed - Hennessy Venom
@vaulthunterfromterra40533 жыл бұрын
+ the Formula Drift cars of course
@Dhovakim3 жыл бұрын
Love the tvr speed 12 as s2 road
@Hugueta15033 жыл бұрын
What is the tune of Honda nsxr Gt?
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Also Nalak28
@Hugueta15033 жыл бұрын
@@Johnson_Racing Ty!
@OneLDash3 жыл бұрын
how can i join races of any class in multiplayer? i dont like offroad so I only want to do regular road races
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
not possible at the moment
@cortezmonaro27143 жыл бұрын
Nice, i'm in KZbin now!
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
congrats, tell your mum! :D
@TheRealChangeOfPace3 жыл бұрын
Working on B class? I'm having trouble getting good Dirt and Road cars that aren't the impossible to find Daytona.
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
always working on everything! :) But S2 is next probably.
@TheRealChangeOfPace3 жыл бұрын
@@Johnson_Racing looking forward to it then!
@LuisAS963 жыл бұрын
No cortes las carreras, incluso si no tienes nada que decir, me gusta ver cada detalle de tu trazado 😊🤜🏽🤛🏽 Gracias por volver!!
@shaunlindsey73052 жыл бұрын
Ferrari 458 and FXX are both very good in S1 and I never seem them mentioned.
@Johnson_Racing2 жыл бұрын
FXX is definitely awesome. We were not aware of it when the video came out. :)
@mogelkaiser18763 жыл бұрын
I love to drive the 250gto in s1/900. makes so much fun ^^
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
lovely car! :)
@B.KLOPPT3 жыл бұрын
Hey Johnson. Kannst du bitte noch ein Video machen von deinen kontroller Einstellungen? Das wäre echt gut. Deine Videos sind immer toll
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Heyho, kopiere einfach die aus FH4 - funktionieren immer noch. :)
@JuanitO_o3 жыл бұрын
the ford gt feels soooooooooo damn good even now , im using a wheel with tcr and abs off and its so hard to find a car that handles well at high speeds and legit the ford gt is insane i was scared to turn at first but after some testing with nalaks tune the build is INSANE super controllable without losing speed
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
glad it works for you! :)
@Roni773403 жыл бұрын
Holy shit the Jaguar
@Hasankhalid993 жыл бұрын
Are they gonna add competitive mode in future? I miss good old days grinding in FH 4 😕
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this will be added in 2-3 months. It's very disappointing that it's not there from the beginning though.
@livinlife773 жыл бұрын
Dirt: Ford Fiesta ms rally car, ford puma fe, hoonigan rs200, hoonigan escort(not the group a) CC: jeep trailcat, ford ultra bronco buggy
@jkdubya853 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid - got me to buy a GT. Tried out the Ford Focus tune…it’s not for me. Car feels like no matter which way I want to turn, it wants to go the opposite direction and fights me the whole way.
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's not easy to drive. :)
@MajkyTheButcher3 жыл бұрын
I've fallen in love with 2013 R8 Coupe V10 for S1. with 7.2 speed, 8.5 handling, 9 braking and 10 the rest. Grips like a champ and can hold itself on straights.
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
sounds great, mate!
@natesdum3 жыл бұрын
I love the car as well but I find the 7.2 speed to be underwhelming especially against really skilled drivers that switch out handling for speed. The R8 is definitely unbeatable in the tighter corners though, none of my friends can touch my scores on the Volcan Sprint.
@sylvainl.86943 жыл бұрын
M'y main IS the R8 but don t look at stats that mean nothing dude u ll get thé worst setting 😂😂
@dreamcrusher57112 жыл бұрын
Every time I add the codes my car stats are not the same as yours. Can Someone tell me why?????? #HELPPLEASE
@Johnson_Racing2 жыл бұрын
different units maybe?
@x4narizu4x3 жыл бұрын
That tune for the Lola needs work honestly I feel like I got done dirty. The first Gear is tuned way way way too low. The off the line acceleration is garbage because of that first gear, especially for an AWD car. Really bad over oversteer too. Transitional steering & stability is a complete mess. Besides that everything else on it is pretty damn solid but damn it i wish i could edit this. I dont wanna post it as my own or even get credit. I just wanna make it good 😞
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
yeah makes sense since we're still at an early stage :)
@TheNicdo3 жыл бұрын
In the track toy category the 600lt seems pretty op, destroying the AI in S1 with it🤫
@VERT12202 жыл бұрын
AI is different from real people lol
@GatitoCarreras3 жыл бұрын
Feel like there is way less grip on any car compared to horizon 4, handling and grip feels like 3 again for some reason
@twells34583 жыл бұрын
For some reason the Lotus GT1 is marked as a barn find but it’s in the autoshow? Great video as always Mr German Potato 🥔
@Johnson_Racing3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's a bug. Thanks mate!
@FredericEllsworth1043 жыл бұрын
Also noticed that the 600LT, Jesko, Megane R26.R, Huracán P, C8, etc. are still marked as "Prize Cars" even though they can now be bought in the Autoshow. This is not the first time that Auction House code was reused from a previous game BTW.
@therockpapersciss0rs3 жыл бұрын
you should try the 1991 Peugeot 205 Rallye for S1 dirt. Very good in my opinion
@BabyHippoSwag3 жыл бұрын
you can make the bugatti chiron S1 class, i'm curious how it stacks up against the ones in this list.
@MrHenhen53 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming by putting on rally or drag tyres? It depends on what track you're on, if its on a track with a big straight then it will do well, but it's such a heavy car and in s1 class it'll probably handle even worse.
@M0N573R113 жыл бұрын
i can say i was messing around with the twin mill in s1 dirt and it was very good but more similar to the jag in that its very difficult in turns