Forza Horizon 5 : The Time Attack EVO Sucks... (FH5 Sierra Sierra EVO)

[@voidastralbirth]

Everyone: This car sucks, you can’t give it more horsepower! This car: 949 HP.

[@dalehadley3283]

Don't get me wrong,949 horsepower is a lot,but at least a couple of engine upgrades would have been nice,like maybe upgrading the block,or air filter,instead of just anti lag,which doesn't do anything

[@Swogfish]

the fact that 950HP is on the smaller end of what these engines make IRL is mind boggling. my favorite drag racing boi Red Demon currently makes over 2000hp AWD. now the only problem with that is the rest of the drivetrain.

[@gamingmamba2584]

Underpowered compared to other cars we have in this game

[@kissgergo5202]

In real life 950hp is very impressive and very fast. In a game where you need to be pushing 1300hp+ to be competitive, 950 is just straight up not enough.

[@chipmanky]

Try playing the game. You go up against 1,200-1,400 horsepower cars in S2.

[@Mankiman240]

I hate how people who play games like fh5 where every car can have like 1800hp who because of that think like 500hp is "nothing" or "not enough"

[@_hitomaru]

for me, B-A class is the sweet spot. horsepower is overrated as fuck

[@NO-ge6ci]

I've noticed that torque is usually more important in B/A class, making the cars more responsive and sometimes easier to handle

[@mattmunoz9388]

Dude right and they will swap the same motor into each car and make them all perform exactly the same which is fucking boring.

[@retaliaterguitar2]

I love racing A Class for this reason. S1 is about as far as I like to go. Not that I can't do S2 or X but it's for more of a challenge than it is fun.

[@GPGMan703]

You have to compare it to other cars in the game. This car isn't bad by any means by it just doesn't stand out any more than the other 3 cars that we got this month and you can't even do as much with it. It's a cool car by why would I use this over the Sesto, CCGT, Mclaren Senna, CLK GTR, F40c, Molser, FXXK EVO, or any of the other time attack/race built cars. It's good just not good enough.

[@toastyeeter]

Here for that crispy 144p quality

[@sufianshahid3690]

Ikr it's so weird

[@thatNORMALviewer]

it probably premiered as soon as he uploads it. YT uploads a low res version before the video fully uploads and progressively improves the video as it finishes uploading.

[@GTvsForza]

I feel that this car shines better for the shorter and more cornering tracks

[@valkeitos]

It is called a time attack car for a reason.

[@slowaccord]

Dont bring logic into this its an ar12 video 😂

[@thephrontist93]

@@slowaccord These people can't handle logic any more than they can handle 950 horses. Yet they cry it's just a game, but get upset about real-life implications for this game.

[@GozuTenno962]

​@@thephrontist93you are also forgetting that this time attack car is almost 13 years old. Today's time attack cars are pushing way more horses, less weight and hell of a lot down force.

[@GozuTenno962]

Nope it's hopelessly outmatched by the CCGT, Viper AE and Valkyrie AMR

[@jacobrev6567]

I was expecting the Time Attack EVO was actually good but it turns out it’s not really good at all because lacks of horsepower

[@jackboulter4901]

Lack of horsepower? it has 950 stock, weighs nothing, and can be upgraded to slick tires. Also, you do realise the developers may have not been able to give it horsepower upgrades as the people who built car might have said to them they can't as part of the licensing, its still a cool car, yes it's a shame we can't give it more power but make it sound crap when it really isn't.

[@sto1asgoetia600]

Most time attack cars these days are pushing out about 900-1400 horsepower

[@bigiron2863]

Its already built why build it more

[@thephrontist93]

It's got 950Hp. How much more do you want?

[@FranquitoMV2004]

​@@bigiron2863cuz its a videogame to have fun

[@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens]

By this logic, every car in S2 that isn't a Brabham, BttB, Sesto Elemento FE, or Viper AE sucks because none of them can realistically compete with them. The Evo doesn't suck. It's fun to drive and is showing love to a car that wouldn't otherwise get much attention. Just because you can't sweat with it online doesn't mean it sucks. Doesn't help that most tracks in FH5 suck because they're just straight lines for the most part with a couple of slight turns.

[@tougedrift]

It sucks online and it sucks at setting laps, there's no need to sugar coat it. You can find it fun and I would understand why but the car objectively sucks.

[@nekotranslates]

@@tougedrift If you take it to the shorter tracks like Los Jardin, then it's a beast. But if you take it to the sprint down near the bridge just after the abandoned airport, then nope - other cars would go faster as its mostly straight

[@aurastrike]

I mean, yeah. That's how people think. "If it's not the best, it's not worth my time" Yes, the evo is quite good at what it does. But you are never ever seeing any sort of competitive ability with the car and that's what matters most in FH.

[@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens]

@@tougedrift Take it to the place it's actually meant to be, which is short twisty tracks, and it doesn't suck. The problem is the game doesn't promote short tracks. It's all just straight lines which favor power builds

[@tougedrift]

@@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens I don't think the issue is that it is a grip car, I see the GT3/GTE cars online all the time and they are absolutely anemic in straight lines. The issue lies in the fact that it's stuck in the middle of S2 which limits what you can use it for. I think it is a fun car but it's not even close to being good at what it's supposed to do, especially compared to similar cars.

[@Godssecondcomingissoon]

All the last cars released by forza:95%"dissapointing"5%"super ultra gega meta" This is one of the reasons most of forzas audience stopped playing (including me)

[@Twiggo_The_Foxxo]

Forza fans when pgg doesn't add the ultra mega poopenfarten op car (Forza is somehow the worst game in existence)

[@Godssecondcomingissoon]

@@Twiggo_The_Foxxo nobody likes meta cars,but that does not mean the developers can just give us the same reskined cars with no customization

[@Twiggo_The_Foxxo]

@@Godssecondcomingissoon don't think it's a copy and paste vehicle other then "it's a evo lol"

[@Jihnbully112]

Ar12 is a legend in the forza community but he does not know how to build a car 😂😂

[@Masterr.po5]

He expect every car will be upgraded and make more than 1000 which is why “sucks” that he can’t make 1000hp.

[@AR12Gaming]

bro its just slow LOL

[@Jihnbully112]

@@AR12Gaming love you bro 😘😘

[@gamingjournalismisajoke4955]

​@@AR12Gaming 900HP is ANYTHING but slow.

[@KnightBoss7]

@@Jihnbully112what the heck😂

[@purple_beany]

Only Forza streamers would complain about 900+ hp and say it "sucks" when doing something it wasn't built to do

[@nightcreeper3839]

Is that not the whole point of Horizon is to have creative freedom? Why else would they put offroad tires on it.

[@nickwilliams207]

And it’s stuck in between middle of s2 class so you can’t take it online.

[@purple_beany]

@@nickwilliams207 who cares about online?

[@purple_beany]

@@nightcreeper3839 you can, that's fine But if it sucks at off-road, then don't off-road it. Simple

[@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens]

@@nightcreeper3839 The point is having fun, not obsessing over meta

[@dripsyyfh5231]

it’s a nice car to just cruise around in driving around tight roads and making lap times n such to just mess around and looks cool

[@Scratch334Original]

I was hyped up for it the most, after Camaro ofc and then I saw “….. sucks” :((

[@kasper_429]

It's still great. Nick just thinks it "sucks" because he can't make it undriveable 🤣. Not every car needs to be OP. The game would be super boring then, lol.

[@spaz8461]

It really doesn’t suck. In real life this car is extremely fast. But forza sweats won’t even look at a car if it makes less than 1000hp.

[@kasper_429]

@@spaz8461 Exactly. I don't get why people have to be sweaty in a racing/driving game, lmao.

[@novi-t3c6]

It doesnt suck

[@viharkottakota1849]

Those exhaust crackles at the beginning are insane

[@lagartopunkarra]

If only you could give it more horsepower or make it lighter, then it would be awesome... but 950 hp with that weight, despite sounding insane IRL, it's not enough for S2 class in the game.

[@hooptastic_hippie8522]

its funny how the energy in the vid changed soon as he seen you couldnt add any power lmao

[@AnkleMuncher]

Crazy as soon I saw you couldnt tune it I knew the community wouldnt be happy with it as everyone been waiting for that.

[@TheTyisawesome]

Tried it in Rivals and it was a Beast!! I'm excited to unlock it despite the missing upgrades..

[@DrRacer78]

This Evo may be nuts, but time attack has cars that are even more ridiculous. The first car that immediately comes to mind is if anyone even remembers/played NFS Shift 2 Unleashed will probably know about that bonkers Scion tC.

[@kasper_429]

Nick: "It sucks." Also Nick: **Tries to make it do everything it's not meant to do, and is disappointed when it can't do said things well** This is a Time Attack car. It's meant to be grippy and fast through the corners on smaller, tighter tracks. You took it on a big circuit with long straights, then off-roading, and then drifting (in AWD for some reason; it "only" has 950 HP, you knew that it would still be too "slow"/grippy for drifting in AWD, but did it anyway; put RWD on it and drift it again). Take it on the Volcano Sprint or a tight custom track and then rate it. Lol.

[@aurastrike]

The problem is that there are cars in this class that easily outperform the evo even in the evo's natural habitat. If it had even 1100 horsepower or more, it would smash records due to the grip available to you

[@kasper_429]

@@aurastrike yeah, unfortunately the stupid-fast cars are the "meta". I wish the S2 class performance/HP was more reasonable/realistic.

[@gamingmamba2584]

The problem is with a car that's this high up in S2. 950 horsepower IRL is crazy, but it ain't shit compared to a bunch of the other cars in this game. Every car with the 6.2 V8 swap can build more power than this thing.

[@NissanSkyline901]

You speak of the EVOs being nerfed, which I do agree on, but in general a lot of the 4 cylinder engines are nerfed in the game. The one that bothers me the most is the Honda K20 (2.0L I4 VVT in the game), which maxes out at 719hp. In real life a fully built stroked turbo K20 can easily make 900-1000hp.

[@mannymf21]

What bothers me even more is they haven’t bothered to really change the power output on those k series since the first or second horizon. Another car is the eclipse. 4g63 capable of 2000+ depending on use but only has like 600 ingame. And the only way to make more power is to swap for that stupid rally engine

[@gixore]

The car doesn't suck. The PI rating sucks and is way off. No parts/tuning options > can't tune it for a decent S2. Can't decrease it for a decent P1.

[@DVbikes]

finally, a car that is just cool that doesn't need to be the best at anything. Best new car in years.

[@clydeshaw876]

This car is exactly what I call "driven/built by some famous people but with so few customizations", in which way so many cool cars are almost useless.

[@crazycjk]

That's such a shame that you can't get it into S1, and it goes nowhere near top of S2?? Is there even another car in the game that doesn't hit the top of a single class!?

[@diamondworrior2401]

not every car needs to be op...

[@moosnail5410]

doesn't mean that they should half ass it.

[@diamondworrior2401]

​@@moosnail5410just enjoy the car for what it is, doesn't need upgrades to have fun with it

[@romie-777]

every car should atleast have a chance to be competitive though

[@diamondworrior2401]

@@romie-777 why?

[@romie-777]

@@diamondworrior2401 because this car cant reach the top of s2 class, it’s completely useless for online racing. it wouldve been nice if it had either power upgrades on the stock engine, weight reduction, or engine swaps they couldve done any of those to make the car better but no, they have to restrict it to 950hp, which holds it back in the horizon sense and prevents it from ever being useful. not even the drift build is good either because it also lacks power

[@ssgssme5189]

So you're mad that you can't max out an already maxed out car 😅

[@trviis]

It’s literally useless. Can’t compete in s2, and can’t be downgraded to s1. At least it’s cool but it sucks for racing

[@firefightszz]

@@trviiswho even plays competitive multiplayer on FH5 anyway? Maybe just have fun with it lol.

[@ryanjagpal123]

@@trviisWho cares about competitive that much

[@Marylandspotter]

This car is amazing, I don’t care about power, it’s one of the most satisfying sounding cars in the game, the bangs between gears and doing launch control is unmatchable

[@crobbo6607]

0:50 Goldens Pfp is...interesting

[@john7156]

As a time attack car, it would likely work better on technical circuits with lots of corners and less straightaways. However, it might not be enough to overtake the meta S2 cars on the leaderboard.

[@CodeRedCody]

the devs did us dirty with this car

[@joec6108]

he doesn't do the one thing this car will dominate at and then calls it bad...

[@aurastrike]

because it also won't dominate there in this class

[@mikejonestheoneandonly]

@@aurastrikesuch a forza kid response

[@basilfabian05]

Love how the Devs actually put the equal length headers in the engine bay 🤩

[@MJM42069]

Before Nick: This is going to be ONE of the coolest cars yet in FH5! After Nick: My disappointment is miserable and my Day is ruined

[@SmolCommunity]

true

[@NRG_Xenon-l1j]

They didn't want nick to full send😂😂

[@黄龙-p1x]

Honestly I don't ever give a shit about new cars will be good at online racing or not,as long as they're cool & interesting cars or have good customization options that will be a good car for me. Not every car have to be good or op at online racing. Having cool cars to cruising around are a good thing as well

[@xentarlion1203]

Oh but the Supervan 4.0 had NOTHING to upgrade and was praised...

[@Niels-booij]

Shut up, 950 is more then enough, its TIME ATTACK, fast in corners not for straight line speed and long straigts circuits

[@GozuTenno962]

It's worse cornering than the max S2 998 cars like, Viper AE, Valkyrie AMR, F50 GT, CCGT, Huayra R and SCV12.

[@jamesl7253]

“It’s built for going round corners quickly” disappointed at its drag racing time 🧐🧐

[@EndingSniper101]

He definitely gets skill issues in his dreams

[@dominickirkwood]

Nick and keep up the good work real true and I love the video 😂😂😂good 👍 Evo

[@austinberasi9749]

This is my favorite car they added to the playlist yet it’s a monster

[@aalex-77]

Not every car has to be competitive, at the end of the day fh5 at its base in a single player game

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

I can imagine any Forza fan buying a 1,000 horsepower Evo in real life and thinking “wow, just imagine how fast this will be when I put a big turbo on it!”

[@FreelyRoam]

Because you can’t get much more out of evos..hence why the high hp ones aren’t around any more at all.

[@ToLooseGoose]

It's definitely disappointing. 950HP is no joke, especially for an Evo. But with Forza Horizon being Forza Horizon. TA cars and certain other cars need to be power scaled up to get the true and real sens of how insane this car is in real life.

[@jamesl7253]

This is a fully built extreme race car why are we shocked it’s not got many upgrades. Not every car needs to be X class

[@nekotranslates]

The car is actually a beast, sure if you want to do everything like drifting, speed zones, off-road etc, then prob not, but if you say only do road racing and street racing, then it's a beast for sure. Yes, the car is a beast at specific things, but not a beast at everything.

[@greensnake00]

Im glad you said about forza hating evos there pretty generous with the ppwer upgrades im talking fm3-fm8 maybe let us get 850 900 brake as a 4g63 is capable of that but mostly i feel like they nerf the handeling on them the most

[@Fluffy_Jaylo2737]

did anyone else see when upgrading the evo - the name is so long it cut into the credits bar?

[@arronfitzpatrick5560]

Hey, Nick, I've got an idea for a future challenge- "Build Your Own Time Attack Car"

[@milesfarber]

I love how all the comments completely and entirely miss the point of the video. He's not complaining about the lack of horsepower. He's complaning about the fact you cannot use this car at all. You cannot race it (cannot be S2 OR S1), you cannot drag race it, you cannot offroad it, you cannot drift it, you cannot do anything. It just sits in your garage gathering dust. The least they could have done is give an option to add weight or remove horsepower to make it S1. But nope. The devs straight up do not want you to use this car at all.

[@odyn1c]

This is also one of the VERY few cars that are in the middle-ish of S2 Class and can’t reach 998. such a bummer :-(

[@RubyRoks]

In a game where most cars can have over 1000 horsepower, this being limited to 950 is a bummer.

[@klayshotter]

People need to stop complaining This is a time attack car. Of course this car won’t have a good top speed coz it’s got tons of downforce.

[@SmolCommunity]

reduce the downfore

[@ericdesjardins3760]

Nickypoo, master of them skill issues, is back

[@andrewmyers565]

Need to redo this with the engine swaps

[@Nowilderness]

9:59 nick sounds exactly like my parents but change Car to my name lol

[@peter-is-back]

Evo Car: 💀 Evo Sound: 🗿

[@klayshotter]

I can’t believe people are complaining about this car.

[@THEHAPPPYGUY]

As of 5th of July 2024 I personally think it’s insane, it’s rly good at drifting and street racing It now has engine swaps and is extremely good at drifting My tunes aren’t amazing, however here they are Drift: 113 558 296 S2 998: 130 578 781

[@thephrontist93]

Nick: has L take on car. Everyone else: Agrees because Daddy Nick says so.

[@RidgeRunner4501]

How is it an L take? God forbid people want more performance out of a performance car in a game where you can swap a 1,750hp V8 into a surprisingly high amount of cars

[@AR12Gaming]

Sorry I wanted to drive it online and not finish last

[@thephrontist93]

@@AR12Gaming You might want to see your doctor about your Skill Issue disease

[@thephrontist93]

@@RidgeRunner4501 Most people who play the game can't handle 500 HP. It's all bragging rights until skill actually matters.

[@metaldumbass]

@@thephrontist93 your take is more L than anything else bro

[@SWINBER]

As someone who mostly drives stock cars in the game, even I have the basic understanding that this car is good but NOT COMPETITIVE. I don't understand why everyone is mad about Nick stating the obvious

[@doledipp3rs238]

why cant people just appreciate this car for what it is? it looks amazing, sounds amazing, and drives amazing bone stock. not every car has to top the leaderboards

[@jacobboudreau6230]

Just because a car isn’t OP doesn’t mean it sucks

[@ssaiyyrissssuzzuyyaa]

Lol I literally just switched to the evo!

[@ogsavage4259]

Hey nick. Keep being great!

[@pepeto2790]

This car now has 2 more engine swaps one pushin 1400 hp Please make a new video about it

[@Tamtalas]

i find it perfect for street races, no need for more hp, just this car isnt for everyone and everything, not every car needs to be perfect for every possible scenario and race

[@lentz_al]

Wasn't expecting it to suck

[@LoserSnoozer]

@@gabehowe2778 it's rather that can't get the PI to the top of one class or the other, sure it could suck top of S2 but if you could make it top of S1 and still be competitive with meta S1 cars or at least have fun with them, that would be better

[@AR12Gaming]

Bro it can't get to the top of the class in either S1 or S2. There's no competitive use for this car which is exactly what I said in the video lol

[@GozuTenno962]

​@@AR12Gamingpeople sadly don't get it

[@gamingmamba2584]

​@@AR12Gaming same is also applied to the Supervan 4, yet you simp over that thing

[@MrHappyUnicorn]

​@@AR12Gamingcar sucks for me nick

[@someguywhodoesntupld]

i own one of these in fh5, the cockpit view when im driving gives me goat sim 3 vibes

[@someguywhodoesntupld]

not to be off topic about "goat sim 3"

[@ashkangyashy658]

Bro the name is to long at the top right corner that it crashed on the credit points💀

[@MXCHAEL_AMP]

Fun fact the evo still does compete I went to time attack in Australia a couple years ago where it competed

[@LeMufffinn]

When one of my personal favorite cars of this update gets absolutely DOGGED on by nick

[@The_SVJ]

Nah for a mid s2 STOCK, damn it sucks

[@Ti-Sonic]

I'll be honest, i kinda saw it coming when the update dropped. Having a TA car like this one doesn't make it any less interesting, but given the balance of the game when it comes to car classes, it indeed feels like an outcast That won't stop me from getting it, and driving the hell out of it 😂

[@zeejemusic8843]

In the words of a wise man: "Forza horizon is a perfect game with no obvious flaws"

[@driftk1ng055]

it may not have a lot of power which 950 is a lot, if it had above 1000 it may not have had the crazy handling it could maybe be good but most cars when put insane amounts of hp they started getting understeer. my opinion

[@Jabawokky]

Dude what? This car is sweet

[@RN_SX]

aw well i bloody love it idc if it doesnt have engine upgrades imo this car is perfect as it is

[@danieldickerson4838]

I couldn’t care less about online competitiveness, personally. If that’s why this car apparently “sucks”, then that’s a narrow mindset to have. It’s still a 950 horsepower time attack race car, and one that I have personally had a lot of fun messing around with. I know, Horizontal=creative freedom and whatnot, but you’re simply going to have cars that are maxed out/pushed to their limits, stock. Or, in this case, “stock”. It’s how it is in the car scene sometimes. Doesn’t make the car inherently bad just because it’s not competitive in online races.

[@rustinporter7035]

I would definitely say it's not bad just disappointed we don't get any engine upgrades

[@umbreon_plays64owo]

1:03 the reason the engine audio cuts out behind the crackles is because it was simply *TOO LOUD* for their microphones, which died during recording lmfao

[@FOXtempura]

the car sticks to the ground i love it

[@sploingoo]

The time attack evo sounds like the ford focus rs rx from fh4

[@Simpapve]

An here I am waiting for the R8_1_1 R8 time attack car to be included in forza..

[@kissgergo5202]

I love the big thumps on upshifts

[@J-STX5469]

I think at the least they should've added in engine swaps like the Racing 7.2L V8 to help max it out in S2 class, that way both the purists and those who want to unleashed its potential in the game are happy with it. But at the end of the day, it's supposed to be enjoyed as it is.

[@slee_kyle]

It doesn't have many upgrades for realism points. "Can't touch the 4G63 engine or it'll blow up, may as well not build an Evo" - Playground devs probably

[@optimumplatinum2640]

It's an awesome car, but for it being in the middle of S2 stock, it's not enough, given that there's a bunch of cars that already run laps around it in MP

[@hiker8124]

Hi Nick love the vids

[@secretnick4252]

I would relook at this car, its really good at Danger signs

[@entityeoe2285]

Golden if you are here, your xbox pfp goes hard.

[@odyn1c]

It’s really damn frustrating that lack of upgradeability renders it literally useless for online races. Of course, the car is pretty much maxed out already of the box but come on playground games, 'realism' isn’t horizons number one priority, so why not throw in some more engine upgrades, so we can enjoy this car in a competitive state for online races..

[@scottmiller4587]

Definitely should've used snow tires trying to drift that

[@shawnjr893]

sounds good

[@PACarSpotters]

Petition to Stop Playing FH5 Until the Devs add good upgrades to this car. One of the most hyped cars of this month is a sheer let down and that’s just embarrassing for the developers

[@Tyindel]

The fact it doesn't have any power upgrades is weird. 950 while mega for when this car was built is now kinda slow. The Tilton Evo IX, an Australian built time attack Evo is making 1200 hp on a 2,2l 4G63. The current king of WTAC, the Porsche RP968 is making close to 1500 hp in race trim and the engine in it is apparently capable for 2000+ HP and both of those cars have even more downforce than this Evo. It's a cool car but just wish more could be done to as from what it seems, 1200+ is more than doable on that engine in real life so why can't we also do it in the game?

[@RubenCovelinhas87]

Nop. We need more car sounds like this

[@gqdzilla]

I wouldn't say the car sucks, but that the modifications suck

[@MrHappyUnicorn]

True that

[@gqdzilla]

@@MrHappyUnicorn fr, and even then, the car is still fun to drive. I just wish the studio did a better job at coneying the speed your going, yk?

[@M1xra_gmy]

Why is everyone saying this car sucks... I played with it and the grip at hight speed is extremly good, looks nice, sounds nice and got some Power. I didnt even noticed 1 Red flag about this car. For what it is build it is perfect.

[@Tylernunz]

Honestly im not surprised when im disappointed by this game anymore, its more surprising when im not, really hope the next game they put out has mote effort put into it