We Tested the MOST POPULAR Disc Golf Myths

[@aboutace8745]

Favorite disc golf channel right here, “am I right boys?”

[@Adam._.dennisdg]

Yes.

[@derpincorperated8644]

I’ve consumed every Foundation video in the past two years I don’t know what I’d do without them

[@abrahamlopez9705]

Ahh.. you got me. Take your like. 🤝

[@douggiefreshdg]

Hex yeah!

[@mishaostrovsky3668]

Nag Neptune discs got the best channel and sponsored playas

[@SiouxGolf9]

Any time you say Pros and Cons it should be a picture of Brodie on one side and Kon on the other

[@TheButlerNZ]

Maybe if Brodie was wearing lipstick and a mini skirt...

[@oakmusiccc]

@@TheButlerNZwhat are you yapping about

[@TheButlerNZ]

@@oakmusiccc If Kon's the kon... Brodie must be the... one on the corner in fishnet stockings...

[@adamdunn2219]

I’ve seen enough. We need a lefty 9 hole battle. Hunt, Trevdaddy, & The Conman in a left handed affair. But. You get 3 mulligans, that you are allowed to throw right handed. Who’s the most amberdexterous

[@MarcusShugarman]

Great idea

[@NeoToxiq]

this needs to happen!

[@jacobflynn6441]

Definitely sounds like a good video

[@joeloreilly2953]

You actually learn so much from training your left hand to throw. You have to work across your brain and breakdown your form to basics. Konner's got it figured out!!

[@MegaLaban12345]

I use flightnumbers as a loose guide for what the manufacturer intended the flight to be, mostly in comparison to their own line up (or to signal what kind of disc it is similar to, ”this is our destroyer” being the most common). When you add different plastics into the mix that obviously makes it more unspecific. But it gives you a general idea, that you can apply to your own knowledge of stability differences in a manufacturers different plastics.

[@deepsender]

So many disc golf video thumbnails show someone with a surprised look on their face, but this is about the best one I've seen.

[@nicklarssondg5227]

KONNER THE LEFTY??? Some serious lower body engagement in those throws, my guy! That part is always the toughest for me when I try to throw lefty.

[@briansanchez6065]

This is the kind of content we need more of please

[@shion0673]

For the "always throw max weight discs" can we revisit it during a windy day? Heavy discs are said to handle wind better then lighter discs due to needing more energy to move them. (kinda where this myth comes from) Id love to see this again but going into head winds, tail winds, left to right. and right to left. FH and BH if possible.

[@hunterriegsecker1084]

Love the content. Still fairly new to the game, but yall have really got me hooked with the game we all love

[@docxen]

i think a fun spin on the numbers would be to do a challenge 4 discs you give the numbers of all four then the contestants have to guess from the flight which disc is what numbers

[@indefj]

Always appreciate disc comparisons with multiple people throwing, great vid!

[@robertkucala5204]

On the lefty throws, I feel like it's also possible that you just got better from throw 1 to throw 9.

[@21aweaver]

Missed opportunity to call this discbusters

[@jorycatanzaro5139]

Great video, always enjoy y'alls infectious energy!

[@KarstRats]

Absolutely love kon kon. “Well my opinion was that i only care about the science” 😂 super quick and witty.

[@rileymanderscheid9805]

On your IN DOOR testing I thought I saw something on the bottom of the disc? Is that how you got the data? What was it and how do i get one?

[@HelloTygr]

I like that you point out that Konner isn’t a ‘new’ or ‘inexperienced’ player, even though he feels like he is. There’s a big difference between ‘new’ and ‘rec level’ just like there’s a difference between ‘collegiate level’ and ‘pro’. I bet a lot of us are in a similar boat to Konner, because I certainly am!

[@JDubDiscGolf]

@22:50 please explain! How it go through?

[@prattacaster]

If you throw with me you're getting "niced" all over the place, I just like watching a disc fly. Sorry friends....

[@LapoftheWorld]

Follow me on this cross-discipline journey: Did you know that the treadwear ratings on your car tires are also arbitrary, and more intended to give a general idea of the rubber compound? There's no independent testing body or gov't regulations. Still, I know if I'm buying a

[@Lando___]

LOVE FOUNDATION!!

[@colinbailey5505]

Lightweight overstable discs are super fun to throw because you can get that flip up and carry but still get that overstable finish. My favorite driver is a lightweight axiom panic - it has early turn, long midflight, but always fades strong at the end

[@colinbailey5505]

Also, if you wanted your experiment to be more scientific for the test of whether faster discs go further for beginners, you would have randomized the discs you threw. Pretty sure you got better at throwing lefty as you progressed from putters to drivers

[@durtydan420]

I enjoy throwing my blizzard destroyer...

[@ChayseGrizzell]

I think the forehand flip up v flex analysis was spot on. You can definitely genreate more speed with a higher arm slot.

[@ShankSquadd]

Yall always inspire me. You guys are the reason I’m attempting to make content myself so thank you🥹

[@dalgrim]

@7:27 The light discs flip more and go farther because you can throw them faster. They are flying more true to their speed because the thrower not the disc. For the majority of people lighter (within reason) is better.

[@shawnobrien7598]

Would like to see you guys do a review of pueblo city park course in Colorado some time! That would be awesome. It's an interesting one for sure!

[@mrfish2227]

If you’re going for a good hyzer-anyhyzer flip forehand I def recommend v overstable high speed discs, forehands just can hold so much more power so you really need a strong pitch+ a strong overstable disc to carry it, my best was 450ft+(with my x-cal) for that tho actually:D but nowadays I’m mostly just working on backhands lol.

[@QaIeb]

It's finally back

[@nyqpi33]

Funny video! I like all the precision of your science! Indesputable i would say!

[@martinhenrysson6632]

Connor is so mutch better now 😁👊 Your technique look so mutch better!!! Go Conn!!!

[@mns2360]

Test one. When throwing on hyzer, you definitely add more power in your throwing style / technique

[@traviscovert]

Hey. Back to the forehand backhand you all were wildly dialed in speed wise. I would like to see you all test what gives more distance. Same speed vs varying amounts of spin or same spin vs various amounts of speed? Would be a cool video I feel. Thanks!

[@iTry_Games]

Got to say, with the weight myth test, Hunter that snap was crisp and nice!

[@nicholaszalycki6718]

Can you test the spin difference between the normal power grip and the goose gossage 2 finger grip?

[@xposition2001]

For me light disc just don't feel right in my hand. Which messes up my release everytime. The only exceptions I found are the Saphire from Discmania and the Page Piece jawbreaker Fierce from Discraft. Though I only putt with the later.

[@feelthepayne88]

Flight numbers to me are a starting point. There are so many variables. Weight, plastic type, used or new. They'll get you in the ball park.

[@HARwinsOUTagain]

Plus how one throws it. No one can throw a disc EXACTLY the same every time. A centimeter of change in your posture from throw to throw can even affect things.

[@ethanscher6313]

What didc did connor forehand flip up rlly nicely??? I want one

[@Nordh_DG]

Maybe someone else commented this, but why did the cicada turn when thrown on a hyzer and not thrown flat? does discs with some understability turn more when thrown on a hyzer angle!? have i missed something? im a LHBH / RHFH player because of shoulder injury so this information would help my game alot!

[@larsgravdal4872]

Could be a wind or spin thing

[@RedeemedChains]

i feel like for the flight number test you could have just taken the same disc in different plastics to show that they are not accurate.

[@yakefromstatefarm]

I like to throw lighter weight discs on longer courses, my arm will hurt a lot towards the end of a round when most of the holes are 350+ ft if I'm throwing max weight. I've started to throw a couple of my bomber discs in lighter plastic to help offset some of that fatigue

[@shawnhill4779]

Don't forget that the type of plastic will affect the flight of the same disc mold. Flight numbers may be a perfect match for Champion plastic but way off for DX plastic of the same disc.

[@ghettorain22]

Heavier discs are usually better for forehands since they correct OAT faster which forehands tend to have more of. For a while the distance record on backhands was with a low 150g disc and forehand was mid/upper 160s.

[@charlesbinkley5103]

I don't know I this is a myth, but my friend and I just started playing and we progress at about the same rate. But here is the thing alot of times on the tee box if one throws a bad drive the next one goes and does the same thing. (Like a mirrored shot). I was wondering is it a beginner thing or something else. Could you test it? Love the channel and keep it up. Come visit us in pittsburgh

[@ES7963]

16:25 NOT THE CHRISTMAS TREE!

[@Britstur]

I play in Colorado so I avoid light discs right now because sometimes the winds are either 10 or 50mph

[@mmsokolosky-wixon]

I like that Hunter and Silas rival each other with the farther/further thing.

[@elijahs.1429]

I don’t have a problem throwing lighter weight discs, but I’ve always found that going back and forth causes me to miss my release point much more often. For example throwing a 165 disc after consistently throwing 170+ more often than not leads to a grip lock for me.

[@stevengarland2522]

Does an under stable disc turn right on its own?

[@sean5354]

Forehand dominant player here. I have never been able to throw any disc further on a hyzer flip than I can throw my champion wraith or destroyer on an anny flex. Even with the s turn, it still is further by a decent amount. Hyzer flips are for tunnel shots but if I want to bomb, I’m throwing a flex.

[@derrickdigiulio4027]

The hyzer flip versus chop anny has to do a lot with how you grip the disc and your arm angle. If you throw the same arm angle and speed a hyzer flip will go further. Flip ups stay in the air. Watching Jake Wolff throw forehand he adjusts grip so he can throw different angles with the same arm slot.

[@benjaminwalther4387]

I disagree with your 'Busted' with flight numbers matter. The discs seemed to consistently prove the slight changes in numbers: the one speed faster disc didn't flip as much as the slower one, the one with more turn turned more and so on. Are flight numbers entirely correct? No. Do they matter? From your test: yes, absolutely!

[@pjhutchison7723]

Not only that, but 7 speed discs aren't meant to be ripped like a 12 speed disc. If you throw them all at a slower speed their flight paths would've been even more similar.

[@Gauchograd99]

When it comes to the weight question, watch Eagle with a 150’s Fission Fireball and it’s still beef. I think the weight issue comes to this: if you can get 165 to speed, it’s better for you than 172. If you can get 172 you may lose stability in lighter weights (disc technology and rim width adds more options with weight).

[@schlupdogg6953]

Feel like the flight numbers can never be proven or disproven, until there is a standard for manufacturers to test by. Such as a robot or machine that can throw a disc consistently.

[@jonathancauley5345]

It depends on the person I think

[@thehauntedfisherman1792]

Nice vid!!

[@detectablethickness]

wait has konner just been left handed this whole time and he’s just been throwing with the wrong hand? that would explain a whole lot tbh.

[@dustinroberson1865]

What i like to think about with lighter discs, is that if it takes me 100% power to flip a max weight disc, I may be able to be more precise at 85% and still get around the same distance. I throw light discs unless it's windy, or It's already a really overstable disc

[@ashermack2543]

Nice video! I feel like there used to be another guy though. I forgot his name at this point it's been so long. Was it Tremor?

[@michaelrobinson3089]

This was a great video

[@hendojr3296]

With myth 2, take into consideration wind. with a tailwind the lightweight discs will have "more glide" but in a headwind, they could stall out or turn over all the way and might have less glide.

[@SirKabel821]

Nice video guys!

[@batjeep5ter947]

Why did you guys choose a leopard3 instead of a tl which is a 7,5,-1,1?

[@McWithers]

I think flight numbers are a good relative score for when you throw the same brand. I find most lat 64 to be good relative to other Lat64. Other than the Fury, that thing is just so understable compared to -2/2

[@tyler_glasgow]

A "myth" I argue with people about often is that discs with more dome have more lateral movement. I believe the opposite, that flat discs have more drastic left to right movements than their domey counterparts.

[@danelewis5475]

I’m a beginner, been playing about 2 weeks and I can say definitively that I can throw farther with my mid ranges than I can with my distance drivers. I think it’s that I’m not able to get enough speed on the distance drivers as well as I have a total lack of control, causing really bad nose up shots that almost boomerang back towards me.

[@JaredTG.]

That piece of grass in Konnors beard, I thought it was something on my phone screen I tried to wipe it off haha.

[@jaminschmitt]

You’ll need a disc launcher to get the best accuracy when comparing flights.

[@landonwebb886]

Who you gonna call??!! Disc busters!!!

[@cwalokie9559]

Just wanted to comment on the max weight issue. It matters most when wind speeds are 15mph plus. Heavier discs into the wind for the best control, lighter discs with the wind to get greater distances.

[@AlanS_DGC]

For the light weight comparison I wish you would have added in some overmolded technology from MVP/ Axiom. I know I have some super light stuff that I can not make flip to save my life.

[@denniscomeau5190]

Video idea: play with an eye patch over your weak side. I personally only have one eye(childhood pencil accident) and would love to see how much effect it really plays. Only thing I notice is I tend to say "get in" more frequently than the people I play with

[@pulse5217]

The max weight thing really came into effect when Hunter threw it all-out. He has 400ft+ power, Konner does not. Getting the disc "up to speed" is where the flight numbers tend to come in, and the weight can absolutely affect it. 12/13/14 speed discs are a LOT of disc, that tend to need 60+ mph arm speed to get flying as designed. I'd be curious to see them using slower speed discs, like 7-9 speed where Konner can get the disc up to speed and Hunter would be over-powering the disc at a full throw.

[@hubterk]

Forehands are typically thrown faster with less spin compared to a backhand, which makes them more likely to "turn over" do their lack of gyroscopic stability

[@ReaperThugX]

Disc battle idea. Roll three dice to get a total. You then can pick discs of your choice, but the speed ratings must add up to the total you rolled with the dice

[@callaway5148]

Flight numbers are useful when comparing discs within a single brand. Between brands, I would argue that they are useful for comparing the intended slot in the bag, but flights may vary. Regarding light weight discs, it could be that the lighter one is less stable because you can throw it faster. In other words, if you threw them with the same speed and spin, would they fly similar? Your lefty shots: you need to repeat with the putters. Or you should have gone putter, mid, driver, and repeat 3 times. The thing is that your form got a little better the more you threw lefty, so your putter shots were disadvantaged.

[@jerrysterling4432]

There is a science with the weight and arm speed. A balance. Find the right balance, get the right distance.

[@PeteEH]

Light vs max weight should be compared light overstable vs max w understable. I had a 135g pd2, that required no power to throw, and it flew straight as an arrow. I only lost it because it blasted past the basket, way farther than any other disc i owned.

[@piercegormley8644]

With max weigh disc, the reason to throw them always is because if you rely on power lightweight those disc aren’t throwable in tough weather, and consistency is the key to golf

[@SmarteeSteve]

Those lefty throws are quite good! That shock sensation is nerves being stretched! Careful, don't throw too hard or too many

[@asdfghjkl4278]

Gotta say that the G Star plastic on that Leopard 3 is way more understable than what the #'s give it

[@adammontgomery9752]

Flight numbers are more consistent within same brand and are also somewhat consistent across brands there are certain molds and or plastics that the numbers are just off completely

[@Taidaishar]

Also, the lightweight is "flippier" because you can throw it faster than the heavier disc. So, imagine throwing the crank (a speed 13) at speed 12 and then throwing the lighter one at speed 14. They're definitely going to fly differently.

[@noahharley1001]

The heavy vs light disc decision is also heavily due to wind break for me. It's a lot harder to throw lightweight discs consistently in basically any wind from what I have seen (at least at my lower level of play).

[@glowskater]

If they ever make a documentary about Hunter, Andrew Garfield should play him

[@epb0394]

The flight numbers would make more sense to me if they used a more objective method of arriving at them (I am currently unaware of how they arrive at the flight numbers. They seem subjective/arbitrary because they fly differently for people). If they used a specific arm speed/rpm’s/angle of release/nose angle to arrive at them, that would make more sense to me.

[@feelthepayne88]

As far as I know, they just have a bunch of experienced people throw them and get feedback as to what they think the flight numbers should be and they take the average.

[@KeepsIReele]

And the tests would make more sense if they if they made any sense at all

[@epb0394]

@@feelthepayne88 I guess that would make them more accurate to more experienced players, but still very much subjective due to different variables. Thanks for the info!

[@JBinUtah]

I think the difference in the distance comes in the fairway speeds up to the distant driver speeds. If you have an 8 speed arm, the 12 speed disc won't go further than the 8 speed disc. I think that's the myth that should be tested. Not necessarily in the putter and midrange speeds because even newbies will have those speeds in them.

[@ericswart3786]

I've been playing for about 12 weeks, I was given a Driver and I have a fairway driver. I throw them about the same distance

[@lincolnfrey7754]

The first myth is exactly why I’m so annoyed that innova doesn’t make the Banshee anymore. Probably my favorite disc over all and I can’t find another disc to fit that gap in my bag!

[@reality316]

I was playing my second ever tournament last month, MA4, and a card mate did a "you should get a NICE score on this one" after my drive landed 15ft from the basket. I then 3 putted for my bogey...HAHA 😥

[@shanesplanetshane3795]

A DG pro once told me that the shock you feel in your hands and intense pain in the fingers, is from blood vessels stretching. I quit playing DG for a few years and came back to an intense pain on my first drives. Oh man my fingers and lower arm felt like a bolt of lightning hit me. I asked him and he explained it. Blood rushes down the arm and to the hand from the speed/force of a hard swing. I played thru the pain and luckily it eased up after about 9 holes. By the end of the round I was good to go. Seems like he was right. Once stretching those vessels a few times, they conditioned to it, and I havent had the problem since. Of course, I havent taken more than 3 mos off of DG at a time, since. Be a friend, call out 'shit shot!', mid flight.

[@willclark5378]

It would be cool to do a doubles video where you take the “average” of the two shots. So if one of you parks it and the other is 200 out you play a shot from ~100 out

[@jordancollmann840]

My biggest argument about flight numbers not being accurate is look at the King and Queen from Westside. The Kings numbers compared to a destroyer. King 14/5/-1.5/3 Destroyer 12/5/-1/3. In theory the king should be more stable than a destroyer with the faster disc speed.... But the king is a hyzer flip to roller disc

[@barkleemadeit15cod37]

Please do flat vs domey myths

[@notsananoof2872]

As soon as the forehand spin one came up, I already knew it does not spin more with forehand. I haven't even finished watching this part.

[@Imclbynrod]

Man, I love to see other people try to throw with there non- dominant hands. I'm a righty, but I can't rlly throw forehand, so last fall I taught myself left hand, and now I can throw over three hundred feet

[@derricksmith1743]

Myth: if you were to smack the camera from the opposite direction at the end of the video, it would open a time loop and replay the video.

[@Dozer94]

That disc going through the soccer goal messed my head up

[@JustinIrick]

I feel like you should’ve used disc with the exact same flight numbers. If anything, throwing all disc with very slightly different numbers and then obtaining very slightly different results would then confirm that flight numbers do matter.

[@danielpenrodii2389]

Why didn’t you use a Hawkeye, TL, or TL3 instead of the Leopard3?

[@DingleBerryDG]

1:50 Gstar makes this feel less scientific

[@KeepsIReele]

Ya I saw that too.

[@noahrohm]

Been trying to hyzerflip my forehands because of that myth. Guess I’m going back to the ole reliable raptor flex shots 😂

[@captainyank138]

I’m a forehand player. Hyzer flip is good distance when you get dialed. It’s a touchy shot but you get really good distance with so much less effort. My furthest shot is with was a hyzer flip up to 430. Plus you can use a hyzer flip to go left on a forehand if you don’t have a backhand.