Four Steps to PERFECT WHIFF PUNISHMENT - Tekken 8 Intermediate Tips

[@gilversoul4552]

Really love the fact that you show drills, sometimes the issue isn't knowing a skill it's not knowing how to start developing it

[@XatariTheGreat]

Yeah I second this, should release a course (would be happy to pay) of like a training regimen with drills in order to improve. Would defs help with consistency.

[@NyxDiscordia33]

100% I met some people through the Tekken Reddit that ended up becoming lowkey my coaches and whenever I was struggling with something they'd have me run drills it's one thing to know you have to punish things, but it's a whole 'nother thing to actually get used to doing it they had me set up Kazuya to do a bunch of different things and rotate between which were active so I could get used to reacting to common moves and knowing which string to punish them It was apparently extremely effective training because I now usually ultra instinct block helicopters on reaction lol Definitely pick one or two characters you struggle with, find their common moves, and find which punishes to use as a general rule, especially as a beginner just stick to a basic 10f punish, 15f launcher, crouching 11f, and crouching launcher. The game will throw all kinds of different specific strings like 12f's and 13f's, but you can get by just fine by using only the basics. Sorry to ramble there, I was just kinda excited to talk about the topic lol

[@ScrubSuiNoHado]

@@NyxDiscordia33Nothing to appologize for, took me 4 weeks to finally figure out how to practice. In SF6 i have prerecorded actions on almost every character to run drills, but in T8 i had no idea of how to set up drills.

[@Toonfish_]

A neat little tip to make it more obvious if you hit the whiff punish or not (useful for stage 1 especially): When you're recording your opponents move, hold back for a short moment after doing the move. That way the recording will actually block if your whiff punish comes out late, giving you better feedback than the little yellow "punish" in the bottom left.

[@Ennbeard]

I feel this is the BIG benefit to using the record function over selecting df2 / df4 from the movelist. It can also let you turn off the move properties boxes if you want, which as Phi has said in past videos, makes it as close to a real match visually as possible.

[@NemSumeragi]

Doesn't neutral on the stick make them block too? Or does that not make you block on whiff

[@Toonfish_]

​@@NemSumeragiNeutral block doesn't work if your character is in an animation, so if you want to make sure you're blocking as quickly as possible, always hold back.

[@ApacheJay156]

Thanks for that tip!

[@sabahbubbler]

I think for level one, sure but like Phidx did, he said try not to record extra movements so it won't affect the timing. Especially level 3 when the interval is short. The back button will give more time and backdash on level 3. I think seeing the punish is good enough tho

[@mawindu2231]

I LOVE these drill videos ! Level 5 : add a mid-high string that reaches far enough, like Azucena's f+44, that you have to duck and punish Level 6 : some options can come with an initial forward dash, for exemple record all Jun's options like level 4, but add another one : forward dash df+2. That way you train not to press your whiff punisher every time she does df+2, you have to whiff punish it or block punish it depending on the situation.

[@user-sq2cp9up7n]

More drills vedio

[@korrosiv3]

You’re actually the goat at teaching Tekken. I’ve played fighting games on and off since I was a kid (I’m 30 rn) and this is the first time I feel like I have enough linear growth and recourses to stick with a game long term. I’m still pretty bad but I feel constant growth with your help. Thanks

[@Always-VAL]

this is my first fg other than trying sf6 (I turned 30 in december) and I 100% agree the process for learning these games is made so much easier with content creators like PhiiDx. I'm almost to red ranks on two characters after some short ranked sessions! Keep grindin

[@PK-ow1kj]

Now that's what I like to see... intermediate and advanced topics/knowledge are hard to find and obtain. Now that you've covered the basic subjects such as punishment, frame data, frame traps etc. Now's the perfect time for average/intermediate players to level up their game and game sense through your intermediate/advanced guides. I really like the direction this channel is going. Keep up the good work Phidx 👏

[@ScrubSuiNoHado]

Thank you for all this beginner content. Getting started in T8 was a bit rough coming from SF but you are doing one hell of a job and it makes a huge difference for Tekken newcomers.

[@SadDogofShimano]

Dude your channel is a blessing, top tier content. I'm so glad I found you. Keep up with the good stuff, it's super useful

[@gagagag7051]

Learned to duck dragunov b4,3 and laws 4,3,4 and a bunch of other stuff. And it worked in a real match, best feeling ever. Cant wait to learn with this drill. Great video again, thx!

[@DigitalRootsGaming]

I understand that you probably receive messages like this frequently, but I wanted to express my gratitude for the valuable content you create on both Twitch and KZbin. Thanks to your videos, I was able to achieve a red rank in Tekken 8, which is remarkable considering that I hadn't played Tekken in over a decade. Once again, thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise with your viewers. 0:03

[@JamisonTrumpets]

Really good video on the building blocks of labbing certain skills. Not everyone knows where to start when wanting to work on things like whiff punishing and block punishing consistently. Awesome video!

[@kamiladamczyk2469]

i must say that this drill elevated my electrics by a ton. i was struggling with landing them in a match and after practicing whif punishing with it im much more consitent. Thanks!

[@jelithtg9321]

Bro your drills helped me break through a ranks plaeau since months. Jusr watching my brain change and reactions gettinf better is an insane feeling. Thank you so much!👊

[@Dapperdanny]

I’m learning more about competitive Tekken every day. Today, I’m practicing defense. The whiff punish breakdown helped me a lot. 👌🔥👍

[@scheeps954]

Thank you for all the content, I'm kind of stuck in Battle Ruler/ Fujin lately and I see plenty of aspect I need to work on thanks to your chanel ! 😁

[@cleberfreitas575]

Someone needs to stop PhiDX, everyone's gonna get good at Tekken if he keeps up like this.

[@jameji_phd]

Love this drill. It's dope as a new player who's been maining Kazuya since it also serves as good electric practice since that's a good punish for these moves.

[@PhiDX]

Yeah it's a fun drill!

[@bullitt08]

Did this drill first time a few days ago and couldn't figure out why I couldn't get the punish on her df2 in lvl 2. Training rn and things are def easier. Made it to level 3 with not many mistakes. You're the 🐐 for sharing these drills bro

[@mextator3068]

my bro cooked and served with this one 🔥

[@jonathanhernandez352]

I was just thinking "hey, my whiff punishment is abysmal, I should work on that", nice timing lol Thanks so much for the drills! The one for throw breaks is already showing results

[@tylerpayne4138]

You’re like the best coach for this game I swear bro. I hope you keep coming up with drills like this they’re a lot of fun IMO!

[@RGTwoThree]

Love your videos man! Definitely the best Tekken streamer, these drills are really helping me. To lab this against other characters is it best to set them to do a similiar homing move like Jun’s df3 & then a launcher to be the move to try whiff punish?

[@PhiDX]

This is not specifically anti-Jun, but is an exercise to drill the reaction speed I picked Jun because so much of her stuff hits far forward

[@AndoughPanda]

Man, thank you for these videos. As someone whose entry into the Tekken world is Tekken 8, I felt overwhelmed and almost paralyzed by all the things I need to learn, and almost considered dropping Tekken because of how overwhelming it felt. These videos have helped immensely and I am constantly feeling and seeing improvements in my gameplay. I also appreciate you how break it down to the simplest terms and show everything step by step so we can replicate these conditions to learn.

[@rondobrondo]

Stick with it playa. It's such an incredible game and it will never die. You'll still be able to play tekken with the homies when you're 60

[@onlyhalfkorean637]

Hey Phi! Just wanted to say I'm new to Tekken (og mvc2 player), and your guides have been helping me level up so quickly. Just wanted to say thanks and keep them coming!

[@PhiDX]

Thank you so much!!

[@Seatek_Ark]

Got NostraDX over here, i was literally telling my friend last night that PhiDX prolly has a whiff punishment guide, and 2hrs later this vid drops. Bless

[@helloimuzumakikira1]

"Set your character as Jun Kazama" Me, a Jun Kazama main crying as I get whiff punished due to people watching this video.

[@James-yf7nq]

For some reason doing the first 2 levels of the drill for a while helped me break some mental block with *throw breaks* of all things. I've still been struggling to actually properly whiff punish or look for whiff punishes in actual matches, but something about the drill helped me with looking at my opponent more in a way that's translated to getting more throw breaks (which I was so bad at that I had a D rating in the skill on the player stats before today)

[@PhiDX]

Awesome!

[@khalidmuzammil3885]

Probably one of the most useful tutorials I've ever seen. Keep up the amazing work Phi!

[@myloemike]

PhiDX never ceases to surprise me with how well he is able to find ways for others to improve their play/game knowledge. You’re a training mode master sir, and sharing it all with the worlds is a great service 🙏

[@Blind_Death]

Can you do a vid about mental traps/bad habits? I.e. constantly low guarding because you THINK they're going to do a low, or constant flowcharting, constant highs. It's probably more a high-level play video tbh. It's difficult for people to see things like that in their own gameplay.

[@avalor2699]

YESSIRRRR, I knew you'd drop a whiff punish guide sooner or later! was trying to figure out drills on how to work on my electric punish. Thank you bro!

[@Matislavio]

Funny enough, this gave me a simple idea how to train blocking lows :v Thanks for the drill!

[@_Helm_]

PhiDX I learned T7 from Fergus videos, he's always my boy forever, but when it comes to picking up new characters in 8 I look to you. You've been KILLING teaching all sorts of tekken on youtube lately. Everybody benefits from your communication clarity, the wisdom itself of course but also your kindness and inclusiveness. I hope the best for you.

[@GameScrub-Raff]

This has become my favorite channel since I started playing Tekken 8. Thank you

[@ivanfiguera8100]

it would be crazy if they added a feature in the future where you can import templates for practice settings

[@Zeergruush]

Banger video! As someone who's just getting into Tekken properly, this is just the kind of video that is needed for improvement! ^^

[@Some-Ryan]

Now we're talking! This seems like really useful drill advice. Thanks!

[@El-Burrito]

I love every video you do that has a drill. Sometimes I want to put some more time into Tekken, but I want to put effective learning time in and not just mess about but in not sure what to work on.

[@chef-ahsoka5001]

These drills are soooooo important!!! I’ll be directing all of my students to this channel for practice ~Ahsoka

[@jep177]

This is so good to come back to

[@ruhro4118]

Bro these kinds of guides are so good. I wish we had more guides like these for street fighter 6.

[@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE]

PHI! YOU ARE AT 55K!! YOU WILL BREAK 100K BEFORE THE YEAR EVEN ENDS! PROUD OF YOU!

[@lordwarhamma]

The drills are really helpful man, keep them coming.

[@killersmoke147]

These guides are amazing, you just earned a new sub keep it up!

[@EntertheFray1]

Awesome guide. I like these practice methods and you talking about muscle memory and how people learn it from taking breaks and when you're not playing. So it means I don't get too frustrated and keep a more positive approach when learning. I've saw myself improving on a daily basis. Is there a guide for learning how to react to block low and punishing lows or how to train yourself to get into the rhythm of doing both? It's one issue where I struggle and I'm looking for a guide like that.

[@PhiDX]

Drill it similar to this

[@musfirtariq7309]

Are you reading my KZbin search history? I literally searched this a few days back. Anyways thank you for this!

[@zespyre6726]

Literally just finished watching the - how to break throws vod, this is exactly what i needed next. Amazing tutorial on how to use the tutorial xD

[@TehLude]

This just gave me some ideas for a different game. Big thanks PhiDX

[@kendellosa2945]

Motivated me to play Tekken again. God damn these new moves. Thanks for the tips!

[@seltic2007]

This the drill I’ve been waiting for can’t wait to try it after work

[@sebbbi2]

You can also record a full real frame trap situation that allows backdash with tight timing. Jin, Hwoarang plus on block mid string for example and then their usual followups and try to make those whiff. Or the Dragunov stance mid kick + df1 for example. Backdash between them and whiff punish.

[@ivangelionfgc]

Phi out here again making the best Tekken content, keep it up!

[@wizardswine4621]

I really wish training mode let you save drill setups so i didn't have to remake my throw drills, whiff punish drills etc every time i want to practice

[@carlosdmexican]

man thanks for this video! I use Reina and I never get the chance to use EWGF correctly, these drills will greatly help. Love your vids!

[@kadavercade3597]

Oh man thank you for this guide, super stuck in Vanguisher(sometimes going back to warrior then vanguisher again) for sev weeks now.

[@Tagmata]

Another solid video as usual! This will help so many people. Keep it up!

[@Siinory]

I spent 20 minutes on Level 4 and yeah, very nice and effective!

[@antsoswag]

Exactly what I needed. Love ur content man

[@yourwelcome1923]

Your videos feel like paid for coaching thank you for posting these vids

[@spainwithoutthes697]

Phi has been cooking lately ngl

[@princecliveXVI]

You’re knowledge on this game is very helpful to beginners thanks

[@pektuspektus612]

Thanks for this idea. Always great videos

[@nozushii]

Thank you for the vid phidx always love to see it

[@ApacheJay156]

Awesome idea. I'll try this tonight.

[@yatheo2969]

Fantastic guides as always.

[@jacuzzisquirt]

9:54 I believe that’s called hand/eye coordination 🧐

[@Sinplosion]

Would be nice in the future if the lesson notes got posted to a pastebin and the link was added to the description

[@bawhite125]

Nice lil Sunday morning gift. 🤗

[@MegaCityGhost]

I tried it and had to do an intermediate level between 4 and 5 with only df2 and df4. Just responding to both of those things properly seems overwhelming. Dash df3 on top is just too much for now. But I'll do it again for sure. Hope I'll get better in time. Looks like my mental stack capacity is around zero right now. Whiff punishment is something I struggle with greatly as it is, but I also happened to choose a Mishima as my main, so I have to do it with the electric or at least a wgf. And my ewgf is pretty slow, as you can imagine, so I have to react quicker to do the input in time and not screw it up.

[@Vespyr_]

The throw breaking exercise has been huge for me.

[@fanboy7718]

great idea thx

[@zpl68]

very good for getting back dash electric down

[@alinlawson2506]

Nice video! Do u have any more drills? I am a subscriber so I might just have to go back through and review some of your videos!

[@Shadowlessday]

I'd love a vid that show us how to know when to go for a whiff punish and when to wait out a string. I find that my natural reaction to seeing a move whiff is to whiff punish, but I more often than not get blown up by the next move of the string.

[@PhiDX]

The answer is simple but difficult to execute. Either whiff punish faster, or wait out the string 😅

[@carmelitojbv]

Totally off subject, but what are ur thoughts on 10hit combos? Classes as a spamming technique? Or is it ok to throw a couple in there safely? I kno a few from tekken 3 like muscle memory. Are they useless now? Really love the updates the videos u really are one of the best KZbinrs out there bro. Really appreciate it a lot. I’ve been a ling xiaoyu player since tekken3 picked up Feng 2nd half of tekken 7 and ranked higher with him it’s strange, but I will keep grinding, I’m just to aggressive I need to train myself to b more patient. All love bother, thank u again 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@PhiDX]

Useless except for like Feng's

[@Lazergician]

Phi looking to take SK's "best coach in the biz" title this game around

[@pokegamerxz]

Hey Phi, I love the drill videos. Is there any chance you're gonna make a defense video? I can't block lows, snake edges, and how to turtle in general.

[@xpflutebox]

I saw some good players say that drills aren't very effective. I'll have to try and see if it improves my game in actual matches against other characters

[@sevenstringsyndicate6250]

AMAZING! SS Duck drill next?

[@yungamare4750]

Phi’s a coach fr

[@Vert_GreenHeart]

Usually when i see someone backdashing aggressively i become hyper aware of whiffing, this works great on people who cant help but autopilot though.

[@Ennbeard]

4:04 I hope future ashpengu got the message. Jokes aside, once again 9:40 is super key. Repetition is king for almost any physical skill. If any of y'all can even think back to learning to write in school: remember doing row after row of "Aa Aa Aa Aa Aa Aa" for every letter? You already knew what the letter A looked like. But knowing and doing are two halfs of the same coin. (This is the part where everyone misses the point and tells me how bad their handwriting is in the replies. I know because my handwriting is also terrible. I guess we didn't do enough lines of our Aa Bb Cc's.)

[@DavidPatrzeba]

Please do more of this content. I'd love to just get more labs for fundamentals as well as labs for characters like King, Nina, Drag, etc.

[@DavidPatrzeba]

Also, you should really link to your other tutorials when you mentions them, eg: KBD.

[@PhiDX]

Good idea!

[@HassanKhan-so5hn]

Nice and perfect guides. Love from Pakistan ♥️

[@kgeo2686]

I'm new to Tekken and I got in the habit of mashing back instead of holding it to block while stunned. I think that is causing gaps in my defense. I think that if you mash it, you risk the chance of block not being activated once your character is able to block again.

[@k-entertainment]

We early today!

[@Dyleniz]

You cooked on this one a great way to practice electrics also some characters have better whiff punishments like Lee have some levels easier.

[@kgeo2686]

Phi, please let me know if this is in the game by design. If you are tapping back to block(and then dash), while in recovery, you have a good chance of getting hit after you recover. YOU MUST HOLD BACK TO BLOCK WHILE IN RECOVERY. It's my first Tekken so I just thought "oh i'll mash back cuz then after recovery i'll just start dashing!"... Big mistake. The buffer window to activate block at the end of recovery must be very small. Therefore if you are mashing back(no matter how fast) you will have a chance to get hit when you could have blocked. I tested this by setting opponent to use heat engager then run up on me while I mash back during recovery. You get hit alot lol Idk if this was just my mistake of if other noobs have been trying to tap for dash during recovery (knowing that dash blocks it seems like the best of both worlds!)

[@PhiDX]

Yes this is intentional, hold back continuously to block

[@kgeo2686]

@@PhiDX Am I the only noob who's been making this mistake?!?!? Anyways thanks!

[@albertosala6799]

Awesome video as always brother! Just one thing : Can you do a video of how to do Dragunov’s fff2 with blue sparks ? I play with arcade stick too but I have tried 1000 Times and get none, I cant imput the double forward fast enough 🙃 any tips ?

[@c16621]

I’m gonna try this today.

[@fredrickjohnson2137]

Great drill I might try it

[@anuraexe]

yeah we need quick record in this game asap

[@ShadowThunder1234]

Ohh I needed this

[@oneb3low]

At the end you talk about "not over spacing". I'm confused, if you're just spamming normal backdash, how do you control distance for this drill?

[@kijanarose9871]

Really enjoyed the video. Please continue to make simple training guides like this one.

[@SiebeSC]

Maybe a cool video topic, how can new players to Tekken 8 learn Matchups better? For me a lot of moves seem similar or overwhelming bc a lot feels very + on block or on hit and I never know a lot of times how to counter people’s characters. I myself am new to Tekken 8, I’m now Flame Ruler and looking to get better at MU knowledge so I would appreciate it a lot if anyone had some tips for me

[@BrandonTB]

Does PhiDX have a channel for vods/highlights of him playing?

[@PhiDX]

Yeah check my channel description

[@c4ffeineaddict]

How come you’re not KBDing in this exercise? I typically do it as my default backdash. Maybe another level for that is to more actively adjust your spacing with various movements?

[@snaxmiller]

This drill is seems easier with Bryan since the punish and launch is the same move. Does Jun have a good -13 move try to spice up the drill so it's not just Jet Upper after Jet Upper?

[@zinv08]

Man. Setting up these training drills would be so much easier if we could save these settings.

[@nyrva2876]

Except no one throws a move out in the open without knowing it will connect for sure. Since you can't move faster going back than your opponent going forward, it will always connect (hit or block). Plus you get hit a lot while back dashing. Kinda defeats the purpose of training for those scenarios. You could sidestep a linear ff2 (which I can't in a match) or duck a high but that's not what df3 is for Jun.