Four ways to shoot your pistol

Here you can witness the first time I shot a pistol, and my comparing four ways to do this: single and double action, semi-automatic and the historical instinctive method.
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I think one thing that this video makes clear is that shooting a pistol is not tremendously tricky. I doubt that I'll impress any gun enthusiasts with my skill level, since this is the first time I have ever shot a pistol in any of these ways, but I do at least get them all to work, with four distinct levels of accuracy.
Thanks to Bloke on the Range for organising this shooting session, to the patrons of that channel who paid for the ammunition, and to the Action Sport Landolt shooting range in Interlaken for letting us use the range at a quiet time.
Please remember that in British English, the word 'pistol' means 'hand-gun' in American English.
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[@SSHitMan]

On some revolvers the cylinder is easily removable, so you can throw it at your opponent and end him rightly.

[@markzero3363]

Nice.

[@EndingTimes0]

No, you unscrew the grip panels and throw them to end him rightly. That seems more in line the original.

[@marlonoswald551]

no, you throw your helmet at them

[@mcgoddammit1990]

@@EndingTimes0 Throwing the bullets at them is a better way to end them rightly.

[@EndingTimes0]

@@mcgoddammit1990 that doesn't involve unscrewing anything mid combat though.

[@Ducaso]

*Levels revolver* "Now see here!" *fires two shots* 10/10 British

[@stuartgmk]

Thats how we civilise those mucky foreigners .

[@TheGrundigg]

@@stuartgmk Quiet, prisoner! *Fires a warning shot*

[@wolfenrichtophen6010]

*holds up Magnum Research Revolver*

[@bennupp2142]

@@wolfenrichtophen6010 *holds up magnum condom*

[@levihamm6640]

Man y'all are so cool with your sayings, in america we just have "stop resisting"

[@sgt.nuclear]

the other guy is just constantly looking at Lindybeige thinking: *trigger discipline*

[@rkpr9370]

As was I

[@memecream5834]

I basically missed the first minute and a half of this video thinking angry thoughts lol.

[@johnsmithwesson9996]

Same 😂

[@wolfenrichtophen6010]

Im sure some of us.. want to see him fire Larger... Calibers...

[@tauIrrydah]

Aw man my trigger discipline spidey senses were doing back-flips.

[@neosquirrel]

"Now see here..." *fires two rounds* Remind me never to get into a debate with you, old bean.

[@jayknight9399]

Did make me slip out a little chuckle I must admit!

[@JamesEvans-ow1wc]

Brits on the range are surprisingly ballsy. My American firearms instructor would have been furious over that.

[@vannlo355]

"now look here" is what he said

[@joekane3494]

Correct. I believe a soldier, in the presence of an officer, who said "Now see here..." would be made to drink cold tea on his lonesome with a dunce cap on. Here here!

[@diggledoggle4192]

I think he said "Now look here" but initially I heard "Now see here"

[@SegaRihdan]

2:40 "Hooray, Adequacy!" Needs to be a shirt, mug, and bumper sticker, Yesterday.

[@madderester7304]

lol

[@patvanquish4586]

"Hooray, adequacy!" The Lindybeige summary of British weapon design.

[@adamtal7569]

Jumper sticker ?! Why no (ideally 2nd hand~) jumper sponsers?

[@artistole4069]

I like how he says "ping" every time he unloads the revolver, like a mini m1 garand. Good show.

[@CassidyCope]

I like how you spelled "Garand" correctly. Seriously, why does nobody do that?

[@mythic_omen948]

Casi Paul they don’t? Who tf spells garand any other way m?

[@brandoncallahan9289]

@@CassidyCope May I ask how others spell Garand? Just curious as I've never seen it misspelled.

[@brandoncallahan9289]

@@ossamamostafa3319 Huh, weird, never heard that. I mean, it makes sense, it's a grand rifle. But thanks, had no clue what they were talking about for a second XD

[@avatariroh0543]

@david burrus I've seen people do it and heard people say it and have even done it myself. When I was younger playing World at War Final Fronts on ps2 it was spelled "M1 Grand," so for a long time I said and spelled it "Grand" until I learned that it was "Garand." Now that I'm looking back on it, I think I might have saw "Garand" and just misinterpreted it as "Grand." It's been so long that I do not remember anymore. Also I didn't hang around anybody who really knew about guns, so there was no one to correct that bad habit.

[@justametalhead625]

Lindy has got to be the most British person on earth.

[@michaelkores6860]

Well, he doesn't drink tea but he hates the French - might be a tie.

[@skepticalbadger]

Michael Kores Never trust a Briton who doesn't drink tea.

[@michaelkores6860]

JonMacFhearghuis I would forgive the lack of tea-drinking, if he 'll have a couple of glasses of gin in future videos.

[@ManuelRego]

Even the French hate the French :D

[@Gman-109]

My favorite Brit, for sure.

[@TheBrotherhoodDiablo]

"Horray, adequacy!" Oh how I love you Lindy

[@Ramidemi710]

TBHofficial "Hmmm. Beige."

[@BalrajSingh-nu9bx]

lol don't mess

[@andmos1001]

British humor at its finest

[@jamesharding3459]

Lindy is like that really cool, aggressively British uncle everyone wishes they had, but only a few are lucky enough to have.

[@ifv2089]

This was pretty much my uncle, I love watching Lindys videos as it’s like listening to him, he told me about spiking guns pretty much exactly the same. Also a awesome classic British gat

[@Sam-ot8lm]

That would be cool but I'm British so it's just an uncle.

[@luketube7207]

I do have a cool English uncle

[@Epck]

@LobsterManUnknown • I am jealous

[@jamesh1758]

Not if u live in the uk. Technically my uncle is British but not the British you’re thinking of.

[@seanchan7167]

'Feeling confident?' 'No but let's do it anyway' I love this

[@edgarbanuelos6472]

Sounds like a saying you could live your life by

[@michaellewis483]

@@edgarbanuelos6472 I only live when I say this.

[@votecthulhu9378]

Feeling confident? No *proceeds to fire at target with utmost precision*

[@justawayproductions9281]

@@waffel7664 feck off wanker it was pretty good

[@theshanamaster]

@@waffel7664 id say accurate, not precise

[@theshanamaster]

@@justawayproductions9281 wrong use of the word precise, he meant accurate

[@waffel7664]

@@theshanamaster Yes it was accurate enough but not enough to deserve the comment "Utmost precision.

[@theshanamaster]

@@waffel7664 agreed

[@BWolf-ju5pj]

Europe: recoil was gentle and completely painless America: aight let me shoot this .50 standing up, let’s see what happens

[@JohnsonTheSecond]

.50 semi or full... auto...?

[@BWolf-ju5pj]

JohnsonTheSecond semi. But as an American I’m legally obligated to say both.

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

@@BWolf-ju5pj 'merica

[@andrewdavis4295]

@@JohnsonTheSecond deagle

[@JohnsonTheSecond]

@@andrewdavis4295 I know

[@tackytrooper]

Lindybeige: "Now see here!" *shoots you multiple times in the gut*

[@Resentius]

Lloyd should star in the next British Crime movie, he can be the old weapons expert that the protagonists go to to get all their guns. He would go on a long tirade about the specifications of every gun, talking about the various actions and history behind it.

[@thenoobcannon9830]

Robonator7of9 I would pay double to see that movie.

[@soccerandtrack10]

fat man and robn'n.(trademarked)

[@inspirality]

Trivia fact warning... Michael Bentine (one of the original Goon Show lineup) was a credited firearms expert and a consultant to the London Metropolitan Police. Lloyd could easily act his part in a tribute TV programme.

[@Xanatos712]

You're thinking of Ian from Forgotten Weapons.

[@robinburt5735]

It would be pretty funny to have Lindy in a Guy Ritchie film.

[@spencerharding1977]

British Chap at range: "Hooray, Adequacy! American at range: "Nat, get the .50 cal.!"

[@Buzzby4020]

As an American who has been punching holes in paper targets with handguns for 40 years, I find your beginner's take on handguns to be very interesting. In my experience, no one shoots from the hip. Hardly anyone takes the duelist stance (arm extended fully towards the target). The reason for that is purely functional. It is far more accurate to shoot with both hands on the pistol because it gives you greater stability. After a while, you cease to be a fantasy gun-slinger and forget the firearm's anti-personnel capabilities. When you shoot paper targets, that becomes the firearm's purpose and all you think about is improving your technique so as to concentrate your fire into the smallest grouping. Does a Brit actually have to leave the UK to get an opportunity to fire a handgun?

[@Hermann-lz2jb]

Buzzby1949 yes, only place in the UK that allows handguns is Northern Ireland and even then they stopped issuing licenses recently.

[@mythic_omen948]

Buzzby1949 if you watched until the end, they talk about a small firearms handbook written back in the 1940s for Brit soldiers that showed those shooting methods, watch the video first

[@yui907]

You could join the army reserve and get the opportunity, I have great fun with it.

[@AnEnemy100]

My grandfather was a Spanish republican. He witnessed the 1934 revolt in Asturias, he fought in the Spanish Civil War on the government side (losing a leg in the process), as a refugee in France he joined the Maquis and knew people who went back into Spain in the 1950s in attempts to overthrow Franco. He showed me how he used a pistol. On the hip so no visible profile of a weapon, tucked in close to his body to steady it and so that it couldn’t be knocked to one side by the target, he would get as close as possible to the target which would keep the noise down and presumably saved bullets. A fairly particular approach I think you will agree. (Ps. I’m a British)

[@stephhamilton8100]

The short answer is yes. You cannot walk off the street in to anywhere and fire a pistol.

[@discotanzo]

Loyd is doing less and less talking and more and more practicing. Can't wait for his next video where he will do a sword duel to the death with Skallagrim!

[@mistahsusan2650]

I assume that Lindy will be armed with a pistol?

[@steffan147]

flintlocks for both!

[@matteussilvestre8583]

Never bring a gun to a pommel fight

[@larptm9083]

Matteus Silvestre never bring a pommel to a webly fight

[@agelatinouscube930]

So long as the Victor unscrews the pommel and ends him rightly I'm happy

[@Alstanbery]

the last thing you hear before you die "Now look here."

[@Ryder-wt9tk]

Look here. Look listen.

[@PatheticApathetic]

Frenchmen everywhere suddenly feel a strange quiver in the pit of their stomachs, but are not sure why

[@soccerandtrack10]

yeah,not the french revolution made horror movies look like shit now huh?

[@smiley4995]

the night hAunter war/russian/aidan/doctor/doyle we get it ya edgy Frenchman, guillotines were a shity thing but it wasn't the worst war ever.

[@888nevik]

the night hAunter war/russian/aidan/doctor/doyle tell that to the freezing lads in the eastern front mate

[@paulbrule5897]

Lord Parbr I do bc of his poor trigger discipline

[@LMvdB02]

Jerry schell then we'll just sail up the Thames again

[@brumbybailey6599]

I'm disappointed. I want the horseback version

[@llkjjjss]

The house would just kick him

[@Jay-hl1ui]

Fifth way: holding it sideways Decreases accuracy but it looks cool

[@letmefarmplease8949]

Actualy is better, you reduce the recoil If you have to shoot onehanded do it sideways It reduce the recoil and looks better

[@PonzooonTheGreat]

@@letmefarmplease8949 wat. No. The only reason to hold it sideways is if you are looking through a ballistic shield.

[@SGT1Barns]

LetMeFarmPlease your talking out your bum hole Gary lol how can it reduce the recoil?

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

@@letmefarmplease8949 it does the opposite lol you have less control with your arm sideway

[@lunaticfae4415]

If youre shooting one handed it is better to cant the gun to around 45 degrees. Pressing out your arm like throwing a punch.

[@nulious]

Keep Your Booger Hook Off The Bang Switch Until You're Ready To Release The Hate

[@gyroskcope]

Lmfao

[@godoftenors]

It's called a "freedom seed".

[@trottheblackdog]

From this pistol shooting Yank, I say Good Show. Your instincts are on point.

[@pureradio5655]

TobyTheBlackDog I do say sir very good show indeed.

[@Xanatos712]

Not his trigger discipline though. I know it was unloaded, but still!

[@94Gidge]

Xanatos712 not shocking for his first time though.

[@94Gidge]

Xanatos712 actually i see what your talking about now when he was sitting at the table at the end

[@scabbynack]

This is why you learn in a controlled environment like a range with someone who knows what they are doing and how to teach.

[@harryflashman3451]

Your finger only ever touches the trigger if you have a screaming zulu charging you

[@brucetucker4847]

What if you're fighting in Malaya?

[@kelbaaasaa]

Lloyd is now on a British Intelligence watch list for going through dangerous self defense training.

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

You can do practical shooting in the UK though as well as owning the exact same firearms our military uses bar the L85A2 since there's no civilian version. You can own the Accuracy International, Glock, Benelli M4 and even fully working ex service tanks although you can't shoot them with anything other than solid non explosive rounds which i imagine are expensive

[@kelbaaasaa]

MrcabooseVG Yes, my comment was a joke. Sort of. I'm aware gun laws in the U.K. are not as draconian as many would believe but that doesn't mean the public opinion of firearms isn't.

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

Public opinion doesn't matter, if it was up to the public hunting would be banned and all guns would be illegal and the country would cease to function. We as gun owners have facts and statistics on our side, anti gun/hunting lot have nothing to go on and in fact the law was recently changed in favour of gun owners to stop expanding bullets being classed as section 5. Even politicians have admitted that the gun laws are fucked going even as far as admitting the handgun ban was uncalled for

[@Britich]

Public opinion is against guns but the government has already stated off the record that they will never completely ban firearms as they need to maintain a 'viable stock' of trained persons to wage a war if its needed. As a firearms competition shooter I think the UK laws are a joke, they're just as prevalent if not more so in gangs and illegal firearms are taken nearly every week/month in smuggling stings Also Lindy needs to stop going to Switzerland and do this at a local club. He can fire someones black powder pistol just not a cartridge loaded pistol/revolver. Which is another stupidity.

[@yugytomm]

Bold move to admit he was trained in a secret foreign facility.

[@whoknew3775]

The first time our beige cloaked Brit is shooting a pistol!! Your American fan base is so proud, Lindy! *bald eagle shrieks in the distance*

[@Virolaxion]

Who Knew Bald eagles don't shriek, they sound like dolphins.

[@whoknew3775]

I took artistic...liberties...:}

[@2adamast]

The American shrieks are there because he triggered a full comment section of safety specialists. (Well done Lindy, that's why I come here)

[@JSK1993]

9:33 - 11:25 : Just 2 straight minutes of extreme anxiety watching that finger on the trigger

[@shrekonion8307]

I hope he shot the gun because if he did he would say some british thing like "holy poppin toppy"

[@ghostuscoyote]

Normally I would say you are just being a Safety Sally, but his finger was naturally glued to the trigger in a pretty uncomfortable bad habit. His inexperience with firearms is pretty obvious though and it would probably be a lot better if he actually owned one to shoot more often.

[@alexbenzler5327]

thought the same dude couldnt watch F

[@KnochenGott]

@@ghostuscoyote or just dont own a gun to not piss off dudes online?

[@Zaefnyr]

i swear i wanted to smack him the entire time

[@samchristenberry76]

Aggressively British as always

[@jamesmcgrath1952]

It's hysterical to watch the guy's eyes keep going down to Lidy's finger on the trigger.

[@inwector]

"Thats clearly dooot dot dodooot doot dodoot shape" what a wonderful british guy, making me laugh my bollocks off.

[@keeperofthecheese]

"mmm, beige" - lol :D

[@ManuelRego]

🤣

[@keeperofthecheese]

Cool square bro

[@grammarnazi2159]

◻

[@PXCharon]

Yep, freekin lost it there...

[@SnickersTS]

I missed it, when did he say it?

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

I feel like blokeontherange wasn't happy about your trigger safety at the start...

[@AnoNYmous-bz2ef]

MrcabooseVG The entire video in fact. Look at his face, his tone. You can feel the disappointment

[@chrismorse3862]

+Ano N. Ymous they say never meet your heros lol

[@ShardtheWolf]

Lindy, I know the revolver was unloaded during the discussion at 9:50, but please please please, never have your finger on the trigger unless you're about to intentionally fire. Loaded or not, its about forming muscle memory. If you watch the video back, you can even see your co-host's eyes dart back and forth between you and the weapon in what I assume in nervousness.

[@PongoXBongo]

And never dry fire a weapon either.

[@JL-dance]

PongoXBongo i thought dry firing was only bad for old pin fire mechanisms

[@rustyd317]

you want to dry fire after cleaning your firearms on some newer systems

[@thebeetalls]

@@PongoXBongo I guess you've never cleaned a Glock...

[@PongoXBongo]

@@thebeetalls Well, I did say "I'm not really a firearms guy" so I would think that would be obvious.

[@gamernick1533]

Trigger discipline induced anxiety on the other guy for the last few mins...

[@Slaxbox]

Lean into it, not away from it.

[@Anonymous8421]

He also wasn't using his left hand effectively

[@beardedbjorn5520]

Dakota Kelley-Greenleaf He was shooting the way the British Military taught to in the pamphlets. He's not going to go full Truexodus on us

[@556bc]

Yes, I agree, but it was his first time and I don't really see him having a pistol or revolver anytime soon as he is British.

[@crazyeyes8962]

It's a very common mistake for new shooters.

[@AnoNYmous-bz2ef]

He's standing sideways. Should be enough to handle recoil. More importantly, he threw trigger discipline outside the window

[@craigjones8558]

If Bloke could get any more nervous, he was hiding it very well

[@patricioansaldi8021]

Was he now?

[@whitestguyuknow]

@@patricioansaldi8021 lol he really wasn't. But Lindy couldn't tell. They can't be hiding it well if it was clear enough to tell at the same time

[@henkmeerdink2088]

Trigger discipline. At the start of the video, Lindy is holding (and swinging about...) the gun with his finger on the trigger.

[@user-nt6zg4fo6b]

Craig Jones is that a Ford Falcon ?

[@user-nt6zg4fo6b]

On your profile picture

[@OBtheamazing]

Every time you swing the gun around at 11:00 bloke nervously glances at it to make sure you don't shoot someone :P

[@OBtheamazing]

Then you can also tell he was nervous because every time you put your finger on the trigger even though he knew it was empty

[@robertmccutcheon4103]

When I was in the military I was taught that if I ever had to draw a handgun and fire at someone who is extremely close you do essentially what lindybeige was saying. draw the gun and fire the first round from the hip. But then basically continue firing the handgun as you raise it up to your line of sight. Then once you get it to your line of sight get the more accurate shots off. Modern hand guns have 16-17 round magazines so the basic theory is if he is that close to you just put as many rounds Dow range as fast as possible, the odds of hitting him are really high and you have plenty of follow up shots.

[@turbosoggy3143]

I just had a stroke reading that but yea you right

[@theminister1154]

Modern pistols are pretty incredible tools. The new carry pistols fit in your hand, conceal easily, are reasonably accurate, are chambered in effective calibers, and hold up to 13 rounds ready to go. That is quite an achievement in gunsmithing.

[@thomcarey1971]

I absolutely love my Webley-Scott revolvers (one .38 Mk VI, like the one you fired, and one .455 Mk IV, from the Great War). Hands down, the most beautiful Victorian handgun ever produced, even when it’s put up against the .45 Colt SA Army. It just screams “This is a professional military sidearm.” In my own opinion, of course.

[@frances081097]

"Huzzah! Adequacy!" My new motto XD

[@McJaews]

Three points: 1) How natural did it really feel hip/center firing the revolver? My first instinct has always been to either hold the gun with two hands to keep it steady at eye level. Maybe I was infuenced subconsciously by movies and TV, but that made the most intuitive sense to me. I have a hard time inagining how anyone would be more comfortable shooting from the hip. 2) People who are used to semi-automatic pistols know the feel of the trigger and how much pressure to apply in order to fire. A novice is HIGHLY likely to fire prematurely because of the low travel of the trigger and relatively low force needed. That's 1 point for the trigger safety people. I shudder to think how many have been injured or killed by unintentional trigger pulls. 3) A point for the trigger safety fanatics out there: When Lindy is sitting at a table with an unloaded revolver, that has been checked beforehand, and has no ammunition in its barrel, it is okay for Lindy to have his finger on the trigger! These people are not unsupervised children, and the gun must be respected, but not revered as a sacred object like when a 13-year old anime fan thinks a samurai's blade must taste blood once unsheathed. Without ammunition, a revolver is no more dangerous than any other blunt object, and if both adults present in the room are aware that the gun is safe, then by all means Wyatt Earp it up.

[@jamiecottrell2347]

I think the whole trigger discipline thing is more of a habit, so you are less likely to slip up when handling a loaded weapon.

[@Petrslav]

It's more of a habit thing, as well as something for people to complain about, but you could even tell the other guy, who knew it wasn't loaded, was bothered by the lack of trigger discipline. It's a habit that you get drilled into your head very quickly when handling guns. Even I was bothered by it and I've only gone hunting with my dad once and have shot guns 4 other times recreationally

[@rcanterb7126]

Rule number one of gun safety is give every gun the respect due of a loaded gun. It's just common sense.

[@marlonjames2000]

@Grim reaper umm, i hope you were just trying to add Drama by overacting it. Think about D-Day, the Battles ok Okinawa and Iwo Jima and such. Hundreds fell there per hour and i dont think any of that was unintentional. So if really more people died from guns by accident then willingly, overpopulation wouldnt be a thing.

[@marlonjames2000]

@Grim reaper i get your point and i agree, i was just commenting on your literal statement which i deemed "over the top". basically nitpicking, on definitions.

[@officialgamerz29]

"Perhaps i shouldnt have said that" 😂😂😂😂 had me dying.

[@cinnamanstera6388]

9:33 FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER LLOYD!

[@carbon1255]

DID YOU SEE THE START OF THE VIDEO!?!? he already pulled the trigger. Bit late for that.

[@crankyyankee7290]

Or as some put the axiom, "keep the booger hook off the bang switch !"Mate !

[@Excludos]

He's aiming at a empty camera and acting for informative and entertainment purposed. You wouldn't tell actors in movies to "keep the finger off the trigger!" while acting out a scene either.

[@jjohnston94]

Actually, I would.

[@crankyyankee7290]

It would seem that he has been chastised more than enough here ! However I never expect intelligent examples from the movie industry,although they, (it can only be hoped) are not muddling about with real weapons on screen ,six shooters that fire a dozen times non stop and all that though one actor was killed by firing a blank pistol at his head once...

[@Thrawnmulus]

trigger discipline, trigger discipline, trigger discipline, trigger discipline, trigger discipline....

[@carbon1255]

But it was so artistically done...

[@josephstalin9939]

James Hunter Hard to get trigger discipline after shooting once or twice.

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

_"trigger discipline, trigger discipline, trigger discipline...."_ "finger off the trigger Lloyd!" _checks finger_ "...FUCK!"

[@Britich]

Its called a booger hook and a bang switch.

[@zipp4everyone263]

*triggered*

[@edgarbanuelos6472]

Are you confident? No, but let's do it anyway. I bet we'd all be able to accomplish more in life we lived by that mentality

[@patricioansaldi8021]

I think that is confidence though

[@cooliobob1274]

A great a American once said, "Courage is admitting you're scared but saddling up anyway" and can be applied to a lot more.

[@Amar_Ramic]

Hey Lindy, can you do a video on whether its viable to use a greatsword in one hand and shield in another?

[@DaaaahWhoosh]

My wrist broke just thinking about it.

[@bavarianpotato]

Amar Ramic its not. A greatsword is generally speaking way too heavy to be used effectively in one hand, also it wouldnt have much of an advantage. I guess that very strong people could do that, but it would be very tiring for no reason at all. kzbin.info/www/bejne/epOxfZJ3qZV8jNk Watch this video of someone trying to handle a greatsword single handedly, and ask yourself the question if you really wanted to act like that on a battlefield

[@chimpaflimp]

It would be way too heavy and unwieldy. You _could_ do it but you'd be extremely easy to defeat cause the sword would be controlling you rather than the other way round.

[@bavarianpotato]

A Totally Ordinary Aubergine also imagine how tiring that would be

[@lindybeige]

I think I could save us both a lot of time by simply saying 'no it isn't' now.

[@knate44]

Not bad, but you finger keeps gravitating towards the trigger. Never trust a dalek to aim well. They have plungers and lasers instead of hands.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

*_"...drill Fritz quickly."_* *LMAO....*

[@JulietBravo90]

You should really work on not putting your finger on the trigger unless you are actually shooting. instead lay your trigger finger along the side of the frame.

[@carbon1255]

I ran with scissors the other day.

[@hassiaschbi]

Carbon 12 pls don't do that

[@NoQuestions4sked]

Carbon 12 Unlike running with scissors, people actually die from unsafe gun use. Then they become more statistics for communists to use when lobbying for gun control.

[@hamstsorkxxor]

dup Please refrain from making the 2A any more partisan than it already is. Antagonizing them doesn't make much of an argument, it just builds toxic, reactionary counter-movements.

[@NavidIsANoob]

Ahahaha, the great ol' communist boogeyman! Lindy should do a video on the Red Scare to suss you idiots once and for all. My god.

[@deez_noots]

anyone else worried by Lloyd's lack of trigger discipline?

[@catfish552]

I'm worried about the amount of people who feel the need to comment that, even though 95% of the comments present already contain the words "trigger discipline".

[@Justadonkey]

@@catfish552Its important though, there is a reason it's treated as gospel by casual and professional shooters alike. If it saves at least one life then this constant nagging was 100 percent worth it

[@dinoflame9696]

@@Justadonkey Do you use the same logic when you're in a car and the driver scratches their beard, looks at the fuel gauge or talks to a passenger? Adults with common sense and a sober brain, can differentiate between actual risk, and just being anal about it. When in this video was there any *real* danger?

[@keanu-sama8378]

@@dinoflame9696 a firearm should always be considered loaded.

[@dannysplace7]

@@keanu-sama8378 Unless you have cleared it yourself. There is nothing wrong with what he did if you inspect the firearm and ensure it is empty.

[@NefariousElasticity]

Token American here, regarding the "hair trigger" of the automatic pistol you fired: In modern shooting discipline, it's considered ideal that the shot itself is always a "surprise" - this way, you can focus entirely on the fundamentals (proper stance; adequate grip with as much contact and support as possible; correct sight alignment, focusing on the front sight; smooth, consistent trigger pull). If you master these four concepts and can ignore the "bang" (not even anticipate it), you're able to take advantage of all the technology that's gone into firearms since the advent of the first auto-loading pistols and enhance your effective accuracy. If I was teaching you how to shoot and there was one major thing I'd have you adjust, it's your stance. You want to bear down on the handgun to absorb as much recoil as possible - this allows for more rapid and accurate follow-up shots, and you do that with any firearm (doesn't matter if it's a .22 pistol or a .50cal rifle). I bet if you braced forward more, you'd be able to retain and slightly enhance the accuracy you already have, plus decrease the amount of time between shots to re-align the sights.

[@TheYannir]

Hi! A former conscript sergeant here. I've trained gun safety to recruits so here's to anyone doing this for the first time. The 5 basic steps of handling a gun safely: 1. Maintain your weapon. A clean firearm is far less likely to misfire. Cleaning your gun should happen every time you fire it. 2. Handle your weapon in a way the barrel never points to anything you don't want to shoot, particularly anyone's bodyparts. Even when you think there are no rounds in your weapon. Mistakes happen. 3. Keep the safety switch always on, only turn it off right before taking a shot. Putting it back on afterwards EVERY time should be your second nature. 4. This one doesn't apply to revolvers as it's impossible after you've loaded it. Will write it anyway. Never keep a bullet in the barrel of your weapon until you are ready to shoot. If rounds remain afterwards, unload the barrel and put the rounds back into your clip or the box of ammo. 5. The most important one. Keep your finger off the trigger until you want to shoot, and afterwards revert back to it immediately. Keep your finger straight, resting on the side of your weapon. Like you were shooting with your fingers. You are far more likely to make a mistake than it is likely for your weapon to do something unintended on its own. Human error is the most likely cause of accidents. When we were first taught about firing a weapon, they wouldn't let us load our weapons until they were sure we could control our trigger finger. There are a few more things I could say but these should get you started.

[@justinz9225]

If you're carry concealed, I'd highly recommend keeping one in the chamber.

[@beverlywilliams8458]

One in the chamber is ALWAYS better dude.

[@Adam-of9kd]

nobody asked dude

[@stevenpolkinghorn4747]

Those are not the gun safely rules, neither are they all accurate. In combat you do not want to be walking around with an unchambered weapon. That's just one of the rules to got wrong. I don't know what recruits you were training but I hope they're all still alive. As someone else already posted, there are 4 gun safety rules and if everyone follows them no one will get shot (unnecesarilly). Any other rules about firearms are supplementary. It is completely absurd that the number one rule of gun safety is to maintain your weapon.

[@TheYannir]

For the record, these rules are for peace-time barracks conductment for when there are 1500 other people around that are just as inexperienced at handling a firearm as you are, not for the battlefield. I'd imagine many people from the USA that are not from the big cities have been handling a firearm since they were 16 so you really have a different perspective here. Most people in Europe only handle a firearm for the first time when they enter the defense forces so these rules are for that situation. By no means should they be taken as rules for every situation.

[@generalgrievous4341]

Lloyd is suspiciously good at firing pistols… is there something we don’t know? Come to think of it, he does seem to know an awful lot about about intimidating people near the end… and he does have an odd fascination with violence… the Lindyhop Killer: Coming to a dance studio near you. He’s back. In beige.

[@skepticmoderate5790]

It's not hard.

[@jimmereid246]

General Grievous he is actually a British mob boss.

[@ratpakflintigon9648]

Who is the lindyhop killer

[@SMV4Kcom]

Lloyd shoots gun. + 4 to Masculinity. + 6 to SMV. + 8 to Freedom

[@rickymcgowen6776]

Actually it's +9 to Freedom.

[@retrodarktrooper6372]

-2 Britishness

[@stefthorman8548]

Dunno, back when Britain was an empire(aka when it was cool) they allowed firearms, so it should be +2 Britishness.@@retrodarktrooper6372

[@Sipeari95]

Imagine how dissapointed i was when i realized you were going to shoot at paper targets and not your pistol.

[@JC-om7nr]

Sipeari huh?

[@toatrika2443]

joke explaination: The title of the video can be interpreted as shooting your gun, not shooting with your gun. That's it.

[@theoristnumber1173]

Sipeari nice Ché Garvana meme

[@toatrika2443]

i feel ignored

[@rafaelantoniozentenoguzman3909]

@@toatrika2443 welcome to my life.

[@Willy_Tepes]

If you do instictive shooting for a while, it is no problem to hit a can at 20 meters from the hip. One old guy I saw, hit 25 clays in a row while trap shooting from the hip. Mister stabby from Shanghai actually filed the sights off the pistols his officers used to force them to aquire this instinctive shooting style, and it actually works very well. The Enfield has a very heavy trigger pull, but it is also the reason I have a very strong trigger finger. :)

[@fish4225]

@e fred what's wrong with you? Many things I would wager.

[@fish4225]

@e fred (Says someone who liked their own comment) I asked that because you're inexplicably toxic to everyone around for no apparent reason.

[@therealkillerb7643]

The safety Nazi in me could not help but flinch at the end bit where he points the firearm around WITH HIS FINGER on the trigger. He violated at least three of the four basic safety procedures in that scene. Bad Lindy; no cookie for you, or your instructor!

[@KazisCollection]

The Real Killer B - he received only 36 seconds of instruction. The onus is on his instructor for not teaching that.

[@tankerspam5884]

The gun was always loaded, 2 people were shot that day.

[@michaelemberley2767]

Get your booger hook off the bang switch!

[@evennot]

I suspect he does this intentionally to trigger more comments to boost the video

[@markn.reprisal9472]

Wut!?!! It's one of those hard and fast gun rules you just *do* *not* do... *ever.* Like pointing a weapon at someone you don't intend to shoot. You don't do that...even for the adolescent thrill of the imaginary 'effect' on viewership. If he knew enough not to do it...then it wouldn't be done...under any circumstances. That's absurd.

[@TheBrassJackass]

Donuts?

[@connorlastname3034]

*Is in the middle of class, chewing gum* Teacher: 11:00

[@joeschmoe8771]

This actually some pretty respectful shooting but make me cringe when you get your fingers in front of the muzzle.

[@AlexiLaiho227]

and at the talky part at the end when he held his finger on the trigger while gesturing with the gun

[@TheGrundigg]

@@AlexiLaiho227 He also pulled the trigger many times, but the gun was unloaded and there was not a single person in front of it, no big deal.

[@justinz9225]

@@TheGrundigg Doesn't matter. Universal Firearms Rules violation. Very big deal. You know how most negligent discharges happen? When the operator thinks the gun is unloaded.

[@TheGrundigg]

@@justinz9225 yes but they didn't "think" they made sure and they didn't point it towards anyone...

[@justinz9225]

@@TheGrundigg Yea... you don't shoot, do you? It's pretty obvious. You've already failed any gun class you will ever take. The Universal Firearms Safety Rules are not up for debate. This kind of negligent attitude is how people get shot.

[@ivan55599]

You forgot gangsta-style.

[@LV_427]

Complete with holding the crotch.

[@Xkrisar]

ivan55599 kill shot, kill shot

[@Y.Moroboshi]

...and now I'm picturing Lloyd doing that while wearing a sideways beige cap.

[@2010ngojo]

Any decent handgun wont jam just by shooting it sideways. You have a better chance of a malfunction via limp wristing.

[@arctic3032]

Hip Gangsta LindyHop

[@pillaichan]

Hey were you a magician or a hand model at some point? Your aesthetically pleasing loosening of grip at 1:40 is indeed aesthetic.

[@nzwilliamson467]

For future shooting reference, especially with shotguns and rifles, you want to lean into the shot.

[@PongoXBongo]

And not lock your elbows or knees.

[@speedy01247]

the last couple minutes his finger was constantly on the trigger. I don't care whether it is loaded or unloaded, don't have your finger on the trigger if you don't plan to shoot.

[@DisemboweII]

Even on a toy cap gun? Or a computer joystick? _People could die!_

[@M4CB]

Ah shut up safety sally

[@JohnDoe-cf8ho]

He's right never point a gun at something unless you intend to kill it, and never put your finger on the trigger unless you plan to pull it

[@_grigoryta]

Even in the first seconds he grabs a gun, the finger is already on a trigger. I literally stopped the video to scroll down to comments and find out that i'm not the only one, who got frustrated by this. And i'm not by a long shot a gun person, no pun intended.

[@TheFlipcyde1]

I have found it very useful to fire the first shot from the waste, second from eye level (without focusing on sights), then the third round with focus on the front sight post. This applies to mid range conflicts around 15-25m. Closer than that, two rapid rounds work just fine. Further than that, and you should think about correcting the sight picture. Just some info from my days in the sandbox.

[@yungdomino4718]

Thank you for your service :)

[@theminister1154]

That seems smart. I'll keep it in mind. We always try to do a little bit of stress training with our plinking. Something like 10 push-ups jump up draw and fire, but my brother and I just do the typical step into stance extend, front sight and double tap. Your way has the guy spooked a lot faster if not hit. Spooked is good! People tend to overlook the whole "it's best if the other guy misses" thing at the range. You can't even do the burpee thing at the range. You don't know of a video that shows how to do it your way do you?

[@Crazt]

The whole opening sequence has me twitching as weapons instructor. Treat every weapon as if it were loaded. Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you intend to fire. Never point your weapon at anything you don't intend to shoot. Keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire.

[@TheLomsor]

Shooting is fun. Ye. Also nice seing the process of someone learning this for the first time.

[@littlesherlock2313]

I went to a defensive pistol class, and we drew from a holster and fired 2-6 shots at a time at a human sized target roughly 5 yards in front of us. We were taught to use both hands and aim down the sights, and I remain convinced that shooting from the hip would have led to a massive increase in inaccuracy while not being any faster whatsoever.

[@espressocookie8965]

"Why is it a coffin shape?" The clone troopers Ki Adi Mundi training for order 66.

[@62calum]

this next james bond for sure. make beige bond!

[@nate665]

Lloyd’s finger on the trigger in the tabletop making Bloke nervous, but doesn’t want to tell him to stop. Stop it Lloyd!

[@AssassinAgent]

It's painfull to see how easily Lloyd's fingers slip to the trigger when not shooting...

[@TheGingerburger]

Well it is a gun and intended to shoot it's just instinct to reach the trigger plus he's a new shooter not raised in a gun culture

[@jayteegamble]

Which is why Bloke should have corrected him. Would have taught all the viewers how bad of a habit that is (extremely bad).

[@2adamast]

Old uniform, old guns, old pamphlet, the trigger discipline is is that of the forties too.

[@Fenris86]

I also noticed that and I can count the times I shot a fire arm on one hand.

[@harrypoosie3035]

I gotta say, as an American (whose country is divided over the gun issue) who loves guns and gets anxiety from beginners, you did a phenomenal job. Trigger discipline, common sense, listening to instructor, you got it all perfect buddy. This is how it’s done.

[@jimmybob6740]

If you think his trigger discipline is perfect, I'd say you are a moron.

[@GetMeThere1]

I'm a 65 year old American, and I've been shooting all kinds of firearms (and reloading for them, and all other things connected with firearms) since I was 5 years old. I will say: You're a natural! You did abnormally well at this. You should move to America as soon as possible.

[@danpit2001]

Another great video i only have one piece of constructive criticism, always, no matter what firearm, keep your finger out of the trigger guard until you intend to shoot. it is very important to drill that into muscle memory in order to help prevent negligent or accidental discharge of your weapon. also good work on learning how to shoot you are doing quite well.

[@danpit2001]

and to use an american expression to help keep safety in mind "keep your booger hook off the bang switch"

[@ultimatepandaman3966]

"They are all in a coffin... Huray..." This man :DD

[@ihavetowait90daystochangem67]

I think your forgetting the dead eye technique

[@gizmogoose.2486]

You're finding your Inner Viking!!! .....seriously. I grew up on a ranch and have always, from childhood, had guns of my own. I've never *not* taken them seriously, and the way you waved it around with your finger on the trigger, made my teeth itch!!! *However...* you'll get the hang of that too. *My* *takeaway* *here* *is,* YOU could be an extremely good shooter with some focused practice. In my long, gun-totin', experienced opinion with a whole stack of NRA badges, you're a natural...no kidding...no hyperbole...no guff. Really!!!

[@maesb.2705]

Gizmo Goose. Hows A Viking using A gun. I Mean if you shoot A gun you become less Viking like because A Viking would never be able to shoot A gun

[@Liquid_Rigel]

I love how shocked Lindy looks after talking about putting eight in the coffin

[@lhh6627]

I'm glad that other guy is also staring at Lindys utter lack of trigger discipline

[@dougshaffer5524]

You should fire the Colt 1911 45 ACP. You'll love it.

[@justalurker3489]

Doug Shaffer I suppose they might not be as common outside the US, think of how much a "quality" 1911 costs us here, I think that it would be at least as expensive there, if not more.

[@sigma6656]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaWoipaLiLZ3r9k This is what he needs to do. Something about old fellers shooting wacky firearms is very comforting :D

[@dougshaffer5524]

Just a Lurker M-1911 and M-1911a1 were used internationally. Even Germans used them from a captured Norwegian manufacturer. They have to be available, and Lindybeige seems able to track one down.

[@justalurker3489]

Doug Shaffer I didn't say that they were totally unavailable, just that they wouldn't be nearly as common as they are stateside. Especially if we're talking about an authentic government issue one.

[@dougshaffer5524]

Just a Lurker Sorry, I was finishing Hurricane prep. You're right, so we need to pressure him to come to the States. Maybe see if he likes firing something with a higher rate of fire, say a minigun.

[@grailknight6794]

Very good! Hey lindy just a reminder! Dont forget to keep the finger off the trigger when not shooting! Btw im just friendly reminding you! The reason you will hear gun people scream finger off the trigger at all times is to be done always! Only the few seconds your getting ready to shoot is it ok to to put the finger on the trigger! Its maybe annoying to be told to people who are not gun enthuthiasts but keeping finger off the trigger is a way to train your muscles so that in a high stress situtation you dont accidently squeeze your fist "which is common in adrenaline to squeeze the fist"! So yeah i love your videos and maybe you got sick of people saying this but i think reminding is not a bad thing when done in a friendly way ☺

[@rb67mustang]

I have always enjoyed watching people like you fire a rifle and now a handgun for the first time. It's easy to see that you had lots of fun and you're no longer afraid of firearms.

[@joblogs7487]

the low down shooting style was probably used because people got used to fanning single action pistols which you can only do by your hip, the technology evolved faster than the technique, probably

[@bavarianpotato]

jo blogs have you ever tried fanning a gun? Thats not something many people can do, no good idea for a common soldier/police officer instruction.

[@Ramidemi710]

jo blogs Or people were just incompetent...

[@awakeindeath]

jo blogs its probably more a response to the idea that it was faster to draw and fire from the hip in that low stance. They practiced it at short ranges only. After all, your pistol was your back up if you were out if rifle ammo or come upon suddenly.

[@Anthropomorphic]

"its probably more a response to the idea that it was faster to draw and fire from the hip in that low stance." That's my impression as well. I also recall hearing something about how many law enforcement shooting instructors were hired based on their success in shooting sports, which lead to a bias in favor of gun types and shooting stances that worked well in competitions.

[@justinkashtock333]

Don't forget that WW1 was all about trench warfare - and often the long guns could be difficult to maneuver in trenches during trench raids. Add to that the trench clubs, and it could be very beneficial to be crouched and not have your head where a head should be. Also take in to account that most of those raids occurred at night, and more often than not, you were shooting towards vague shapes in the darkness as it were, so aiming properly wasn't going to improve much in regard to hitting anything.

[@spigot993]

I could rant about trigger discipline and dry-firing, but then I'm just a jealous English limey that has to jump through a thousand hoops just to sniff a firearm. Thanks for sharing it all Lloyd, encore, and splendid shooting progression.

[@darthremy1802]

When he picks up the gun with his finger on the trigger the voice in my head started screaming

[@singami465]

I'm triggered by the trigger discipline on display here.

[@musardus]

I won't stand near him with a gun in his hand, sooner or later he will shoot himself or someone else by accident.

[@Milksteak177]

Jeff Vick Every adult beginner shooter has trigger discipline issuse especially in the classroom with a checked and double checked firearm. Pick up the windex bottle where do you put your finger? Pump gas where will the finger go? Its the only item they have handled with special rules for the trigger. No excuse, but if he keeps shooting he will get it. This was (to my knowledge) only his 2nd time on a range. Id love if he came to my range.

[@pointlessgimmickyusername9196]

Same. In that last segment, "Bloke on the range" (or whatever his name was) was giving Lloyd some nervous sideways looks, too.

[@Aeleas]

Then once it's drilled into you you'll index Windex bottles, drills, etc. as well.

[@carbon1255]

He's British, all we give are nervous sideways looks.

[@andrewr05]

He was eyeing your terrible trigger discipline the WHOLE time you were sitting at the table, he seemed uncomfortable. Even when you know a firearm is unloaded, even if it is new from the factory, even if its a prop and literally can't fire any ammunition, you should ALWAYS keep your finger off of the trigger. It sounds petty, I know, but the more that it becomes muscle memory to keep your finger outside of the trigger guard at all times, the less likely you are to ever accidentally (NEGLIGENTLY) discharge a firearm. I enjoy all of your content and I'm not trying to be an ass, I just wanted to help you.

[@mathiasrryba]

I have used a real firearm twice on a shooting range and besides that I play Airsoft and I sometimes find myself holding finger off the trigger even when I'm in the middle of a BB exchange...

[@OBtheamazing]

Andrew Robinson remember everyone, there is no such thing as a accidental discharge. Only a negligent discharge.

[@chimpaflimp]

That level of mincing about with the gun is completely unnecessary. If you know the firearm is unloaded and have verified it as such it doesn't matter if your finger's on the trigger cause it's not gonna fire regardless. As for doing it even with something you _know_ cannot possibly fire a round, that's just flat-out ridiculous. If someone's waving about something which very much looks like a firearm with their finger on the trigger and you have not yourself verified it as unloaded, that would be an uncontrolled situation and therefore unsafe. But in a controlled situation with something that is known to contain no ammunition it's not necessary at all. If you need to do that because you can't tell the difference between controlled and uncontrolled situations/can't remember whether you unloaded the gun or not, you shouldn't be handling a firearm in the first place.

[@Backonos]

if you cant follow or teach a simple rule of finger off the trigger you are the same kind of person who cant "...tell the difference between controlled and uncontrolled situations/can't remember whether you unloaded the gun or not,..."

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

Lindy isn't a gun owner (as far as i know) but as long as you're under supervision of someone who knows gun safety there's not really an issue. I was eyeing his trigger safety too but i'm subbed to bloke on the range so i know nothing could have happened

[@Groggers96]

This video is also an example of superb gun saftey and trigger discipline. Well done for that, best I've seen in a long long time.

[@yesete777]

You forgot "gangster as fuck"

[@OnceIWasBooker]

Lloyd is ls like that cool *REALLY* British uncle you wish you had.

[@cloroxbleach3449]

Snuggles so tru

[@xslonk]

3:11 Lindy being extra British by starting and ending a hypothetical argument with two gentlemanly bullets. "Now look here!"

[@thor9517]

Last time i was this early Allies betrayed Czechoslovakia

[@pp-wo1sd]

Martin Spáčil Last time I was this early,the French were the main rnemies of Britain

[@mistahsusan2650]

Last time I was this early Istanbul was still called Constantinople.

[@benmurray8810]

Mistah Susan last time I was this early there wasn't an Constantinople

[@pascalausensi9592]

Last time i was this early Constantinople was still named Byzantium

[@TheColonialGamer131]

Last time I was this early I was drinking mercury to cure my lead poisoning

[@PaleandPastey]

Beard game is on point

[@mathiastheapprentice]

As someone who competes in rifle shooting (the type where ppl win by a mm). Shooting a smaller caliber with a higher accuracy is really fun.

[@FiksIIanzO]

"Moving around like a Dalek" is the most british thing I've heard in months

[@jamielonsdale3018]

Funnily enough, it's also the 'correct' way to shoot accurately. While the revolver is merely an extension of one of his arms, the most accurate shooting is a full body exercise involving aligning your shoulders to your arm and ahead of your centre of mass, your waist to your shoulders, with your feet in an athletic ready position, knees slightly bent and no rotation in your core. Micro-adjustments are performed by slightly rotating your core. Large adjustments are made by starting again.

[@jamielonsdale3018]

Also, as clunky as that sounds it's done seamlessly without conscious thought after a couple of days drilling it down to a science. Fire 12,000 rounds with bad posture and you'll never forget it.

[@maxam46]

What about the gangsta way

[@cooliobob1274]

I bet after this video and seeing all the comments Lindy now has excellent trigger discipline.

[@MrSlitskirts]

Great clip and subject. the Fairbairn-Sykes (two men) pistol shooting method included the "double-tap" and shooting instinctively from the hip or the draw was taught to Special Operations Executive (SOE) agents, as they usually had concealed compact pistols (civilian clothing) and they may not have had time to aim, so they they could get off two quick shots ("double tap"), then escape / evade, take cover and / or do aimed shots. I don't remember if it was Fairbairn or Sykes, but one of them observed that in street fighting whoever got a shot off first dominated the fight. But nonetheless interesting to compare or the shooting positions and double action / single action methods. There's an WWII SOE Training film made in I think 1943 that the Imperial War Museum has showing the technique being taught to SOE agents: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6SnhY2Bl7uNn9k. Kind regards.

[@_spacegoat_]

Trigger discipline, Lloyd - finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire, even if the gun is unloaded. Lots of people have been killed with "unloaded" guns.

[@tobediv]

spacegoat No human being has been killed by an unloaded gun

[@fatcatscanroar]

Cameron VanDeMeme what is pistol whipping?

[@gunman762]

fatcatscanroar He's not gonna pistol whip his friend

[@CC-oi8gr]

"unloaded" You damn well knew what he meant.

[@fatcatscanroar]

@@gunman762 no really? I was implying to him that yes you can kill someone with and unloaded either via whipping the dog snot out of oneself or bayonet.