Slingshot Vs. Shepherds Staff Sling | Slingshot Versus Ep. #2

[@chrisd2051]

The fact that you could make the staff with a broom stick, a paracord bracelet and a little bit of cloth is astounding.

[@jamesadams5386]

I don't know exactly how I got here but it does my heart good to find other people that obviously are believers. God Bless you folks.

[@iamjustawife2619]

Ikr. Too bad churches run people off.

[@LiqnLag]

Basic and Staff Slings are largely underappreciated these days but they were a popular skirmisher weapon in ancient warfare. Since none of that stuff survives more than a year left out in the open, it's hard to gauge just how prevalent they were but think what a few mates could do to a group of closely packed combatants with those things. A great video.

[@kleinjahr]

The Romans used Balearic Island slingers as auxiliaries. Their preferred shot was a football shaped lead shot.

[@greatdude7279]

@@kleinjahr Wrong. Roman Legionnaires used lead bullets since Legionnaires also used slings, pilum, throwing darts (Plumbata) they wanted to use as much fire power as possible when closing in. Balearic Island slingers on the other hand used longer slings made for larger projectiles they pretty much played the same role as modern light mortar squads. raining down quite large and heavy stones which pretty much ignored armor due to energy transfer and moumentum just watch what happens when baseball pitcher hits batter in the helmet and batters helmet is specifically designed to resist impacts now image what would happen when a stone which produces higher Joules then baseball hits you in the metal helmet that unlike Batter's helmet bends.

[@krieger8825]

The slings were used by all Legionaries

[@talyn3932]

@@greatdude7279 klenjahr is right, though. they did use Balearics as mercenaries, as did the Carthaginians. It's no matter that the legionnaire was also capable of using a sling, the Balearics were dedicated in their role and the best there was available at the time. The Football shaped shot was also found in battlefields that the Balearics were involved in for different powers.

[@mrpirate3470]

A good staff sling stick should be of ash or similar wood. The 'spring' of the stick adds a huge amount of power, over and above the leverage. We did trials at St Albans and were getting 200m+ with smallish cobblestones. Using lead balls produces horrendous damage :)

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

cool I'll have to try that thanks

[@bautiwachin5043]

Hola. Me. Saludas

[@jgappy5643]

I heard standard shepherds slings could reach 400m. Don't know if it's true or not.....

[@talyn3932]

@@jgappy5643 I think the record is 457 m or something, but that is distance, not velocity.

[@unforkyours3lf730]

Where do you get one like that?

[@DrLipkin]

Staff Sling. Ideal weapon for a D&D Druid. Druidic Focus, Shillelagh, and Magic Stone all without needing to use your object interaction.

[@tosgem]

Can you imagine what kind of damage a prime, young athlete could do with this? Like, baseball pitchers can throw a ball at 100mph. Imagine an athlete at that level who has practiced with the staff sling since young age. I think they'd put every rock through that plywood

[@BobRossTrolling]

Correct, many romans have used old school slings like that on many enemies. At the time with that being the only viable ranged weapon next to the bow it was about as lethal as a .44 magnum.

[@Purriah]

not even just a staff sling. a pure leather one would be fine. either would be deadly from quite a long range. sling shot has a much lower skill ceiling, and can be fired faster, but with much less effect

[@jodycarter7308]

Now imagine a platoon or batallion of them, with whistlers (clay or lead bullets that make a chirpy whistling sound on their way in). Like being at Agincourt, but could hear, but couldn't see the arrows.

[@zekeblake5914]

Think about the amount of training they probably had. It was probably mostly boring watching the sheep day after day. They didn't have entertainment like unlimited books or cellphones. Plus, unlike guns, your ammo is reusable. So they probably spent years training.

[@chrisevanz]

Such a good demo and applause for the rethink on David’s sling - very plausible. Well done.

[@cielopachirisu929]

Best Staff Sling video on KZbin, with actual calculations and comparison almost like a firearm review video. Most other fustibal videos show how to make or a slow-no video of slinging technique. Nice, but this extra detail you have is much appreciated.

[@fordman7479]

personally I like the sling because you can make one out of things readily available, and bands wouldn't be easy to get in a survival situation.

[@wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193]

Fordman 1991 and it would wear out extremely quickly

[@josephdavis8074]

Boot laces.

[@shadowdeslaar]

Fordman 1991 and a slingshot just doesn’t have power like a sling

[@omgitsjoetime]

Fordman it would dry rot and sun rot

[@nickw9376]

@@josephdavis8074 huh?

[@44hawk28]

The other advantage to the staff is that you can easily adapt a shepherd's sling to the staff and make it instantly becomes a staff sling.

[@obamagate4887]

Great video guys!! One main point in David’s story, God was in control of that rock.

[@psykopanda11]

The romans i belived trained peasants from spain to throw rocks with stick slings and regular slings from 3 years of age until they could throw the length of several fotball fields. Rome went to great lengths to find perfect stones and they also melted olive shaped lead bullets up to the size of a small orange. You can imagine being hit by one of those from that far away and perhaps high up on a hill coming down on you in great numbers! I have heard theres accounts of fully armored medieval knights having been killed by those along with the horse in the same hit! Often they carved jokes and taunts on them and some have been found with drilled holes so they scream or whistle in flight! You guys should try melting a few of those ;)

[@kleinjahr]

Balearic islanders actually, as auxiliaries.

[@amosweatherford249]

I've read the David story a 100 times and never thought of that possibility.... thanks

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

Ya a fun theory! I'll ask him some day ;)

[@Flashahol]

If I mention what type of videos I watch to most people, including my dad, I end up giving nature, history or physics lessons for hours because >>NOW

[@claytonsadventures7607]

I certainly wouldn't want to be hit by either of those! Ouch!

[@rossyanez49]

Me too. :D

[@CragglesnaggClobberbottom]

If the rock gad spikes it would be more painful

[@r.r.8782]

Good morning I want you to know that I have a new job and your bush

[@r.r.8782]

Thanks for the update and for your place

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

We all know it was a sling that killed Goliath. They do +10 bonus damage verse infantry.

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

LOL thanks for watching!!

[@eliteteutonicknight1]

Age of Empires... Niiiiice. ;)

[@johnstacy7902]

Umm that really didnt happen...

[@monkey0550ify]

He lost because giants lose eye sight due to growth

[@Daylon91]

@@monkey0550ify BS lol

[@Seven-ek9gy]

LET ME SHOW YOU IT'S FEATURES

[@johanal4419]

HAHAHA

[@rattlerboi4034]

That's funny. LET ME SHOW U ITS FEATURES!

[@kennethkustren9381]

@partisan AYUP ... INSTANTLY ... JOERG CAME TO MIND TOO !

[@nightRanger0077]

*insert most manliest laugh after phrase*

[@douglassmith3941]

Jorge Sprave... Exactly. Let me show you it's features, Hahaha. Best channel to see the performance and power of slingshots and slingbows.

[@bobbyhill4118]

The leverage and speed you put into that rock from the staff greatly amplifies the momentum of the stone. It’s quite an interesting weapon.

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

It sure is just imagine how dangerous it could be if somebody practice from youth

[@jeshuasmith7143]

I love how you added the Bible and the story of David into this video! Truly amazing!

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

thank you Jeshua Smith

[@FurtiveSkeptical]

When are you going to get to the part where he wounded Satan with the unicorn horn atlatl and Saved Jerusalem? Oh, sry wrong tale of alleged lore. Anyways, great sling comparison video aside from the fairy tale reference. Each to his own....peace. (erm... future ark construction design comparisons? Heh sry that was dickish)

[@secondswell]

+Chris Colbourne nobody cares what your opinion on the bible is mr edgy.

[@markreagan2956]

@@FurtiveSkepticalthe bible is not a fairy tale, your ignorant as hell

[@montechester]

Wow Mr Colbourne, thanks for letting us ALL know you are an atheist! I genuinely feel sorry for you, truly I do. I can't imagine what life would be like without God in my life. I pray that you find God as I have. I had doubts too, but 12 years of being seriously ill changes one's outlook a bit. I hope you don't require that kind of convincing. Good day to you.

[@MuskratOutdoors]

That was great! I've never seen a staff sling before. With that kind of leverage, I can see it working really well! I used to hunt squirrels as a kid with a wrist rocket sling shot. I was really good at it, mostly head shots.......now I can't hit the tree they are in!

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

Ya its fun thanks for watching

[@wolf222555]

Medievil English history , they are referred to as " fustibals". Best regards.

[@barryoconnor721]

The sound of impact on that board is highly satisfying.

[@luisarroliga8456]

I think it's a tie. When I was a young boy I learned how to make a slingshot from a metal clothes hanger, a bunch of rubber bands and a small piece of leather. I recently taught my son how to make one. I'm almost 38 but still a big kid on the inside. Watching your video kinda took me back in time. I had a big smile on my face. You guys looked like you were having a blast. Thank you. You got my like & sub. Keep up the good work.

[@burke615]

Vis a vis accuracy, if we assume for a moment that David v. Goliath actually happened, one would have to keep in mind that whatever kind of sling David was using is one he had likely been using on a daily basis for the majority of his life. I imagine a shepherd would gets bored and practice with his sling just to kill time even when there aren't predators to fend off. Also, according to sling enthusiast Lindybeige, slings were sometimes used to herd the sheep. Rather than running around after strays, they would just launch a rock to land in front of it, which would spook it and send it running back toward the flock. TL;DR: Just because it doesn't seem as accurate in this case doesn't mean a staff sling isn't deadly accurate in the hands of a professional.

[@briansounalath]

burke615 also rocks in that part of the world have double density than normal rocks

[@HarryPotter-bs5ss]

Good that you know lindybeige

[@kennywheelus6857]

True,both were great I thought

[@terrysteele5751]

@@briansounalath He did go to the river to chose his stones. So they were very smooth I noticed many of the stones used in this video were irregular. Im sure many grabbed the sling pocket causing them to go on another angle from the intended one

[@dudexyzu9415]

thats pretty true, but you also gotta remember that David had to fend of predators as well, its not like modern day era were there are fences and stuff, shepherds in those days (roughly 1000 B.C / B.C.E) had to fend of predators in a much more daily basis.

[@Paleoman]

Possibly one of the best slingshoters today. This guy's accuracy is unbelievable. He reminds me of Bedouin kids using slings years ago in the middle east. They never missed and always hit what they were aiming at.

[@hopefilledsinner3911]

The victor was the sword. Thats what cut off the head of Goliath killing him. The sling knocked him down. 9

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

ya you got me there :)

[@rogersmith6391]

The stone sunk into goliaths forehead. He defiantly died as a result.

[@danielweinzapfel8432]

@@rogersmith6391 The head was the trophy collected by the winna

[@pirofagista]

Agree, but the Bible also says that the rock sank inside Goliath's head, A huge power ;)

[@nakoawarrior3186]

Staff wins, but this video is one of the best slingshot videos out there.

[@wavepropulsion1]

I learnt another use for a walking stick. Much people injured themselves for slingshot fails, so safety of use must be considered too.

[@TheOriginalFILIBUSTA]

The chart depicting Energy at the end says it all. As far as accuracy, the Bible says that David chose 5 smooth stones from the river. That there were only 5 may indicate that they were larger stones, as he had to carry these in his shepherd's bag. Nonetheless, round stones would have obviously flown straighter and a bit faster. You guys were using chunky, Maine rocks. So, yes, the shepherd's sling is certainly a very viable theory. This was a great demonstration; a real eye opener. Thanks for all your effort. Peace.

[@MarkLawry]

I like your theory of the stick sling. It makes perfect sense with the text. The sling shot is limited to the stored potential energy in the stretched band. A smaller stone goes faster but with the same energy. With the sling stick, you can swing it harder to put more energy in the shot.

[@a-holefactory1233]

I'm a slingshot guy. Staff sling was awesome. Good job guys.

[@craigmooring2091]

Very interesting. This is my first exposure to the Shepherd's Staff Sling. It strikes me as an interesting parallel and contrast to the atlatl. In both cases, there is a stick launcher which provides extra leverage, but the atlatl trades reduction of missile mass for increased velocity. With a sharpened missile this makes for deeper penetration. The staff sling allows a more massive blunt missile for heavier impact. It seems to me, though, that the staff sling needs a headshot for a kill of a bear or lion, and would not be nearly as debilitating as the atlatl with a body shot. A shepherd would have a lot of time to practice while watching the flock to increase his accuracy.

[@meatsmell8639]

I view an atlatl as a hunter/warriors weapon, capable of taking out small game but not necessarily ideal for it, whereas a sling of any form is more suited for hitting smaller objects due to the larger projectile size, while still remaining capable of dropping bigger targets in a pinch

[@Mega_penetrator228UltraPower]

Атлатль с хорошими наконечниками опасен для дичи любых размеров, чего не скажешь о праще, однако эти оружия сильно отличаются по типу воздействия, чтобы их сравнивать.

[@paulwood4769]

Possibly the best (certainly the most entertaining) exploration of the staff-sling on youtube ... I've made a couple and spent a happy afternoon shattering a scaffold board and bursting old oil drums ... as you mention the staff sling has been used through out human history, from ancient times to the trench fighting of WW1(slinging grenades and firebombs) even caught a shot of one being used in Syria, slinging improvised bombs over walls into compounds ... long and short of it is, I want to hang out with you guys, you know how to have fun

[@Ddabig40mac]

Gotta love the functionality of the hand-held trebuchet. The possibility of making one in the wild with limited access to modern resources. And the improved leverage does for rocks what the atlatl (hand-held ballistae)does for spears. Both great tools for supplying food and personal defense at long ranges.

[@musikSkool]

A headshot has been known to kill with as little as 30 joules, your arm can easily make that much energy. Aiming would be the hard part.

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

Lots of practice should do it!! thanks for watching!

[@spyersecol0013]

I could hit a dartboard sized target at 50 feet with a sling. Headshot = killshot for sure. And that was with a sling made from leather shoe laces.

[@jimmieb8764]

When I was in 7th grade we fooled around with slings .I could launch a golf ball size rock much faster than throwing the same rock.Not even close.The sling could achieve 2-3x what my arm could.But,the sling was not very accurate.The technique-swing overhead first swing easy then go all out on second swing and release the rock.Takes some practice.Lots of fun.If somebody is launching rocks at you,better pay attension.

[@mr.templar5692]

musikSkool please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is a joule; I’ve looked it up before but I still don’t know

[@vantd1936]

@@mr.templar5692 I'm not OP but a joule is basically a unit of energy. Here is an official and much better dictionary description the SI unit of work or energy, equal to the work done by a force of one newton when its point of application moves one meter in the direction of action of the force, equivalent to one 3600th of a watt-hour.

[@hithere4719]

I started to wonder about this when I was learning about slings. Seeing this, I have no doubt this was the weapon used to bring Goliath to his knees and falling on his face. Whether or not the stone had killed the Phillistine is difficult to determine since Goliath was decapitated by David using the Phillistine’s own sword.

[@danielweinzapfel8432]

The Head is David's trophy

[@3Y3ECE]

Looks to me like this- When the melon and coconut zombies are massing and charging your gates, you want your slingshotters up front for the accuracy of head shots at close range, but, you want the staff slingers behind those guys volleying their boulders into the throngs just behind the front line. Slingshots = snipers Sling Staffs = Mortars. Both fun, and devastating used correctly. Great video. That poor plywood, and the reader guy... He needs a raise and a ballistic helmet lolol

[@calmdownref]

I feel the same as you at that moment. I dont know who won that. Slingshot has speed and accuracy but the staff has power and mass.

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

So close to call! Johnathon McCarn thanks for watching

[@lnk3503]

Also, element of surprise, Goliath evidently expected just the staff.

[@douglassmith3941]

Staff sling for outright power of impact vs the size of stone and the slingshot for match grade speed and ease of carrying. Both are pretty awesome. The slingstaff has other advantages and applications for use. I think that for the different applications, I would say slingstaff. Its a walking stick, a tent/ tarp pole cqc weapon convenient place to carry your sling, fishing spear/ pole, possible friction fire starter, digging stick, lever/ prybar, probe stick, it could be notched as an atlatl for throwing darts also depending on the length of your stick. Lots of mods and applications with the slingstaff.

[@Cetok01]

Interesting test. From a historical perspective, David wouldn't have had a rubber sling, but I hadn't thought about him using a staff sling before.

[@joops110]

From a historical perspective, the story never happened in the first place.

[@brycedavis1433]

The Bible is true

[@TheNoisyCricket]

And if you figure a young man, who had used a staff sling his whole life, and relies on it to hunt and gather food for his family, I'm sure he could generate an extreme amount of force with very high precision. Easily could knock a man, or giant, out even with a helmet on. I really enjoyed this video.

[@AdamCeladin]

Very nice test guys! Great job :)

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

Hey Adam your Good with those Knifes ever want to make a knife Verses slingshot video Come on By ;) Seen a few of your videos good stuff!

[@الايمو-ز2ن]

شفتك سمير

[@HowieFeltersnatch1]

Adam Celadin do a knife vs slingshot challenge

[@JayVanSaxman]

Great videos yourself

[@clayjesiah4067]

instaBlaster

[@spacethefinalfrontier5016]

I had never heard of a staff sling, but I think your observation about the possibility of David using s staff sling is certainly plausible in the context of the scriptures.

[@MtnBadger]

Have you tried a half length, one handed "staff" sling? That's interesting, as well.

[@piersgentry7453]

That I would like to see

[@hieroraven]

Wonderful. Loved the test! Staff is the clear winner

[@MotorcycleMouse]

Even though his was slower man! That carried some serious energy

[@Acolis]

this is the type of content i enjoy at 4am

[@lycosa2000]

Fun video. I'm sure as far as accuracy goes it's slingshot>staff sling>sling. Romans cast their own lead sling bullets (that whistled and were engraved with insults among other things). When a well practiced soldier wielded a sling along with ammo that was uniform, it isn't suprising that a sling could be deadly accurate in the hands of someone who was very well practiced. Shepherd children still use slings to this day and I imagine you begin to get an eye for the perfect stones to launch in your sling. I think the biggest detriment to the accuracy of either weapon is the rocks themselves. Unless you can hand pick the perfect rocks, it's likely going to be difficult to be accurate at any considerable range whether you are well-practiced or not.

[@cryhavoc9748]

Instead of trying to find "perfect rocks", stick your index finger into sand to a depth of the second knuckle. Then pour molten lead into the holes. Perfect ammo for a shepherds sling. Same shape, same weight.

[@lalli8152]

@@cryhavoc9748 I think they also made sling bullets out of clay by fire hardening it. I guess will not be quite as effective as lead, but cheap way to get uniform ammunition

[@unfetteredpatriot1000]

Oh sure let’s all bring out our crucibles of molten lead

[@talyn3932]

@@unfetteredpatriot1000 Not hard to do... lead was used in everything and was a common material that the commoner used from everything from dishes to cosmetics. You would not need to look far to find someone who could help the legions rearm. In fact, it would not be too hard to make a cob kiln in the field either. Most Bloomeries were simple cob structures used once and rebuilt for every use, afterall.

[@davidwilliams4837]

This is a great video. I appreciate the biblical context. Thank you.

[@michaelkelly8061]

gonna have to figure out how to add a sling to my walking cane.......... thanks for the demos

[@Danielle33384]

Michael Kelly that made me smile 😂

[@timtravasos2742]

Both are impressive but the staff is deadly and your brother is shockingly accurate.

[@davidelo5843]

In a survival situation today I would diffidently pick the sling shot ! Far more accurate and easy to shoot !

[@stephenyoung6142]

Definitely adding this to my arsenal of simple weapons

[@savaiiheaven8143]

I like the idea of being able to make and maintain the sling staff with no modern materials such as rubber.

[@tes767]

Looks like the staff sling packs much more energy than the crotch type sling. Accuracy will improve with practice. You are right about David approaching Goliath with his staff--guess I read it to fast to catch that detail. I'm going to make one for myself. You guys make fun, interesting videos! Keep it coming.

[@MtnBadger]

I'm glad someone else figured this out besides me. The staff sling is the "Atl-atl" of the sling shot world. Good video, guys.

[@thelittlesignpost]

The Slingshot/Catapult is good for more rapid-fire, perhaps more accuracy, but not so much devastating power! I like the hand held slingshot best, but want to try out the staff slingshot! At the end of the day, whichever you practice with and prefer you will become good at! Interesting video, perhaps you can do more in the way of home made weapons?

[@zafeirisz.5569]

I practice long time on slings & catapelts. Stuff sling, first time saw in real. Thanks guys! Gave me some nusty ideas.

[@RiverbendlongbowsOutdoors]

Very cool. That was always my theory on shepherd sling. Great video Zachary

[@billbutler2452]

Camp Mendocino, Summer 1962, Boy's Club camp. 9yrs old. We were forbidden to make a sling on day 2, naturally the majority of us young campers had homemade slings by day 3, practiced on static targets, graduate to floating targets in the creek, and the poorest of us actually got very good. 4 yrs later I told some buddies, wasn't believed. Used my shoelaces and a rag pocket made up on the spot, lined up some bottles, cans, rocks on the RR track, took them all down, missed only a few times, hadn't used the sling since camp days. Impressed the heck out of my friends. I said' Wasn't much, target wasn't moving, and I missed a few, out of practice.'

[@debonairedragon]

Either of them is going to hurt. But the staff sling flinging the substantially bigger rock would do a lot more damage especially if it was a weapon u used every day and had increased the accuracy to a level you have with your slingshot.

[@weldingandfab6484]

Judges 20:6 says Among Benjamin's elite troops, 700 were left-handed, and each of them could sling a rock and hit a target within a hairsbreadth without missing Imagine seeing those guys do trick shots xD HAHA

[@RaeSyngKane]

My analysis is this: Slingshot - Has the advantage in rate of fire, ease of use, size, accuracy, and range. Has the disadvantage of needing latex rubber, a material that would not be discovered or refined till the last couple centuries. Staff sling - Has the advantage in an extremely simple construction, can throw a much larger projectile potentially, can sustain a faster rate of fire, and is fairly easy to train to use. Has the disadvantage of a slower projectile speed, larger size, shorter range, and lower accuracy thanks to human error. Sling - Has the advantage in being extremely simple, very small size, can throw as large a stone as the staff sling, can throw faster than staff sling, better range than staff sling, and pretty darn accurate. Has the disadvantage of needing a culture specifically built around using it from birth to actually be a truly effective weapon. If you have a group of Balearic slingers then slings are the way to go. If not, staff slings are a good way to get cheap but effective missile troops from the untrained masses. If you have a load of slingshots, what are you fighting people with slingshots for? It's the 20th century at least, they have guns you lunatic! It's a bit similar to what happened with the hand cannon, crossbow, and longbow. The English had a terrific weapon but they also had a culture that allowed them to use it effectively. The hand cannon was more powerful but was much more material dependent. The crossbow kind of sat between them in terms of abilities and cost.

[@hdj81Vlimited]

@@hodalkaly5617 as long as the stick don't break.

[@mmestari]

The main reason why slings weren't used more in warfare is probably due to the formation. You will have to put slingers in a sparse row to avoid friendly fire and them hitting each other. While you can put lot more archers in tight formation row after another for a huge volley.

[@bustinlol1987]

i.kaslar not saying your wrong but depending the speed it’s going mass doesn’t matter because if it goes fast enough even a nerf dart can go through the human skull

[@chrisleach4245]

I’m a lifelong Floridian and I can tell you you were a little too kind. I’m cold when it gets below 78°F! I’m not joking when it’s 50° out I have a parka. And two pairs of pants and extra pairs of socks gloves and something to keep my head warm. But when it’s 98°F and 100% humidity. I’m chilling yeah I sweat a lot but I’m not hot! Yeah we’re a little crazy and backwards down here in more ways than one. Great video first one of yours I’ve seen I’m subscribing.

[@thankfullife7968]

That staff sling is one seriously close range deadly weapon

[@vizaromax]

hello , although I"m reacting a bit late , I was happy that I'm knowing now ,about "the staffsling". It makes perfectly sence , a shepert always have a staff .. When using sling ,the speed of shooting seems faster then the normal one . Reloading , one swing KLENG ; what a impact . Like youre videoos , thanx , D. Reinhardt , H'lem , Netherlands

[@mookiemorjax]

The sling had twice the speed as the staff, but the weight of the ammunition increases with the cube of the diameter. Momentum = mass * velocity So the velocity is in half, but the mass of a 2.5" sphere of rock is 4.5 times the mass of a 1.5" sphere (65 vs 14.1 cu in). So the sling staff would deliver more than twice the momentum than the slings would.

[@pangboi3453]

Not to be rude, I think you mean it would deliver more than twice the energy? I understand what your say, I'm actually currently taking physics for the first time so if I'm mistaken please correct me, I want to be sure I'm correctly understanding the terms and how there used. Thanks for doing the math on that It's really cool!

[@jodycarter7308]

Thx for the math (for us dummis)

rubber tree - THE MAGIC of slingshot in David's times :):)

[@carlwilson4375]

Looks like the Shepard slingshot would be good for small game. The shepherds staff sling would be good for bigger animals, like say a wolf.

[@Eyes0penNoFear]

Or a giant ;)

[@BluBarron]

The gentleman using the sling staff was visibly tentative and slowing down while trying for accuracy. That's not a knock on him and I appreciate his effort and skill with a very uncommon weapon. When you consider that David would have grown up using his weapon and that his life/livelihood depended on it I don't imagine he would have that same issue. He would have most likely practice with it daily and been far better than anyone alive today. Basically the equivalent of a special operations soldier with their rifle. He would have been able to launch that thing all out with complete mastery of form, speed, and accuracy. After watching this video its clear that its very possible the sling staff was used. Thank you both for the extremely interesting vid. I enjoyed it very much, you guys are awesome!

[@pacificbushcraftandfirecra6358]

Not so much a fair contest because each has its own distinct advantages. You were deadeye as always, but Man, that staff sling is a whomper! Great vid Buddy! Take care...

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

it was a close call, Triumph Screen Printing

[@fisherman695]

Preaching a sermon on details of this fight in the bible. Your research helps a lot. Thanks.

[@whitepage8018]

the staff sling is like a hand held mini trebuchet

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

ya exactly!

[@nj1639]

Y'all's havin' too much fun! Great video.

[@josephhemmer7916]

Criminal to waste a nice honeydew melon like that! Good shooting!

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

;)

[@fendychia347]

i've learned how to shoot better from fowler...thanks man...you're the best...i dont have access to any fancy slingshot in my place i just use my old trusty wooden slingshot that i have...and the flat band are from bungee cord...but at lease it shoot better now 😁

[@zerodamonsta942]

It makes more sense now that I think about it . David would have more than likely carry a version of the Sheppard’s sling . Why else would he carry a stick. Also it would be period correct.

[@aaronw.markel9319]

The Stick Goliath mentioned was in fact the Shepherd's staff used to herd sheep. Goliath called it a stick because to a 10 foot giant, in his eyes, it WOULD be a stick. David would not have carried 2 separate items ( pole sling and Shepherds staff) at the same time. He used the hand sling. The pole sling was a soldiers weapon.

[@Dandunu]

@@aaronw.markel9319 erm I don't think he was literally a 10 foot giant. Do you? It's a story and stories are exaggerated so that children enjoy them more.

[@aaronw.markel9319]

@@Dandunu sorry to disappoint but Goliath was exactly that, a Giant. The Bible is not a childrens book, it is a very serious document. There is no exaggeration about David and Goliath.

[@Dandunu]

@@aaronw.markel9319 really sad how you think that. I suppose you are going to heaven when you die? No wonder the world's fucked up is it.

[@Dandunu]

@@Jayden-dj3ic yes I do, the stair lift into my nans flat! 😊

[@minutesagoedited9761]

Wow! The shepherd sling is pretty hardcore. I reckon giants would have pretty thick skulls. Dude is a master with that sling.

[@robdonna1000]

"Among all this people there were 700 chosen men lefthanded; every one could sling stones at an hair breadth, and not miss" Judges 20:16

[@ricobane2898]

That's awesome thank you for pointing that out!

[@johnbell3122]

VERY satisfying echoing thud when yall hit that.

[@wolfdendrones8640]

One of the things I would highly recommend when using a regular sling is not swinging it so many times in a circle. I have found I get better power and accuracy when doing a single swing...just a thought but I loved this video.

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

that is definitely the best method, Id agree, thank you for watching Wolf Den Marketing

[@wolfdendrones8640]

Keep making your videos! Your's is one of the few channels that is really enjoyable on KZbin and that I actively watch. :)

[@theoriginalpauly]

I love the animations. Very tasteful, very funny. Very effective.

[@jackhydrazine1376]

If you set the coconut up about 8 feet above the ground (to simulate the height of Goliath) it would have made the test even more realistic.

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

good point, more ''Slingshot VS'' will be coming Jack Hydrazine

[@MarcusTheDarkness]

I only clicked on this because of the story of David. Nice video!

[@slingshotwarrrior8105]

I' made staff slings and used them as well as slingshots and even slings, the staff sling is easier to use than the sling and during the middle ages, it was the grenade launcher of its day. Because it was used to launch an early version of Molotov cocktails and with stones, it was used to break ship mast of medieval ships in naval warfare engagements before gunpowder and cannons were invented. I invented a new type of pouch for a staff sling, that I call an origami pouch because it's folded and stitched with layers of fabric like origami and the pouch holds the stone in the Kreese of the pouch. Very snug, until release, I found that traditional staff sling pouches have problems of stones falling out of you're pouch before release but the origami pouch solved that problem.

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

wow, would love to see that newly invented sling SlingshotWarrrior

[@cnawan]

I was able to make a similar concave cup by fixing the flat leather diamond-shaped pouch into the split of an untightened fisherman's knot, (weaving the cords through slits around the edge of the pouch). This means the knots slip toward each other slightly, pulling the pouch up around the stone.

[@slingshotwarrrior8105]

That's very similar to my origami pouch, real leather is hard to find where I am so I use 2 layers of denim with a thinner fabric as the last layer and I simply fold and stitch. The ends off into a square shape and after that I fold it down the middle into a creese and stitch each creese end off and after that, it's easy to tie rope or chord. Onto the staff sling pouch, through the loopholes at the ends of the pouch and you know the rest. My origami pouch is pacifically made for staff slinging, but I have other pouches I make for slings and slingshots.

[@slingshotwarrrior8105]

I'll send you an origami pouch if you want? This pouch is made pacifically for staff slings and no other type of sling, but you'll have to add the para-chord or rope and the stick.

[@SupermanBB]

Fowler, you’re awesome buddy. Great video, your friend is skilled with that sling! Makes total sense that David would have used a staff sling like that

[@idaklymr]

Never knew about this weapon

[@lnk3503]

I guess we weren't supposed to, Imagine being cops and facing a riot of people with these!!!

[@Al3xander8102]

Me neather

[@peglegnoid6139]

@@lnk3503 The cops would look like blue pillow cases full of door nobs. LMFAO

[@ferdonandebull]

I argued thirty years ago that this was the sling David used.

[@ferdonandebull]

Pegleg Noid naw folks would look like Swiss cheese marinated in tear gas...

[@panganaranga]

Whilst tryin to destroy the coconut, they left the plywood like someone shot it with a canon. That Sheperds Sling delivers some serious kinetic energy.

[@singJJBplay]

The first minute had me intrigued.

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

Stay tuned more "Slingshot VS" and similar content to come Josh Brown

[@singJJBplay]

Looking forward to it! What really grabbed me about this video was the really spot-on biblical analysis. I really love it when someone can just illuminate some portion of the Word of God . It makes the Book come even more alive to me. Great job.

[@jeremiaht7063]

Love the video bro... but as a combat medic I have to point out -leaving the coconut loose on top of the table dispersed all the energy upon impact. A real head is held in place by the cervical spine. A real direct hit to the forehead wouldn’t have all the energy dispersed into the open environment behind it upon impact, the energy would be transferred into the head and c-spine.

[@WayPointSurvival]

Agree that it was a tie. Love the power of the staff/shepherd sling. Btw, you have a crazy snowman in your yard...

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

they both had their advantages, thanks for watching WayPoint Survival

[@thejokester9681]

Staff sling

[@thejokester9681]

Im there only comment

[@lonerekblackfur2010]

WayPoint Survival u forget that god gave him the strength in battle to shoot that sling

[@JoshuaBrewington-k2w]

Brother awesome video I just discovered the slingstaff a couple days ago and when the Roman's were using it the longer the cord on the sling the lower a faster it would go and the shorter the cord like under 2 feet the higher angle the stone would go. Thanks for all your knowledge and God bless all yall.

[@casyleer144]

I believe that the shepherd's sling was truly just a rock wrapped up in a rag, It's actually very effective....

[@btnlstrsort200]

My professor in Levant (Biblical) archaeology had samples of actual sling stones. They looked about the size of grapeshot from the Civil War. The size is the same as what Jason is using. I had not seen the staff sling before, but now it makes perfect sense. Thanks.

[@TwoTonTaft]

another big factor would be how much less effort the staff sling is to use, even more than the slingshot

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

yes for sure

[@LimaPesca]

great slingshot master, you won a Brazilian subscriber.

[@primaloutdoorskills2694]

It's like an atlatl slingshot. they both operate on the same principle of Leverage

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

Primal outdoors & survival skills Who that's a great idea

[@primaloutdoorskills2694]

Thank you

[@lnk3503]

Actually its more like a hand held trebuchet.

[@sciencinessfeeling6366]

@@lnk3503 Not a catapult but a trebuchet you say?

[@lnk3503]

@@sciencinessfeeling6366. Not sure what you mean, I agree with this video, it is very insightful, I've not made any videos but I've played with various slings and slingshots but hadn't seen a staff sling. I had wondered before how a sling could kill a giant because my 40 lb 1.2m starship slingshot wouldn't have. however the trebuchet was the most successful weapon of all time before gunpowder and the staff sling uses similar physics.

[@Nytrouse]

Kinetic energy is 1/2 m v^2, proportional to mass and to velocity squared. Compared to the same baseline (small rock at sling staff speed): - The slingshot shoots 2.5x faster and has ~6x energy - The sling throws rocks of ~2.5x larger diameter, so mass (and energy) is ~15x higher So we should expect the sling staff to have 2-3x as much energy behind each shot compared to the slingshot, with considerably less accuracy.

[@kimalexanderkepler8414]

That Shepherds sling was actually how David did Kill Goliath, he is truly on to something, ingenious weapon

[@lurid_phaesporia]

I seriously can't get enough of the sound of the rocks hitting the plywood target. I guess I'm not alone with that though huh Fowler?

[@FowlersMakeryandMischief]

ya you like that watch the 100k subs video in the trick shot tusday playlist

[@veronder]

Goliath mentions "dog" because he recognized the Shepherds staff sling as a animal control pole 🤯 - to me that affirms David used the staff sling

[@researchroundearth4565]

So much work put into this video. Wow. Love it. Great job guys.

[@psocretes8183]

The power in the staff sling was shocking. Slingshots without a wrist brace are pointless as you can't get full power or accuracy. Personally I really like a Barnett Black Widow slingshot. Lightweight, can fold up in your hand ready for action but can't be seen easily and they have a wrist brace. Matched with ball bearings as shot they are a great tool.

[@larrytischler570]

Why not use 2 ounce lead egg fishing sinkers and get more power? Or what ever weight your device can handle. Lead is about 40% more dense than steel.

[@JostVanWair]

Just take an arquebus...

[@robertbrunston5406]

Sling shots are great fun I have used them for many years, the staf sling looks amazing I think I need to make one! Thanks this was great.