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[@Andum48]

Mike T was catching a few strays last year due to his retention of Matt Canada and rightfully so, but credit to Coach T, he recognized the problem, stopped digging and got himself out of the hole. Now look at the Steelers and Tomlin. This is a segment posing the question if the Steelers are the best team in the AFC and Tomlin is almost certainly CotY.

[@Kdezay]

We’re very spoiled 😂

[@kentsturgill5945]

Man the San Diego Chargers as opposed to LA is the hardest one to get used to

[@overbyscott]

Chargers will always be from San Diego and the Raiders will always be from Oakland for me.

[@brianfiore9024]

As a Steelers fan for over 50 years, I can say that we are pretty spoiled. The fact that Tomlin hasn't had a losing season is lost on a lot of Steelers fans. That said, while that is an AMAZING accomplishment, if the ultimate goal every year is to win the Super Bowl and you're not doing that, what good is never having a losing season? Tomlin is a GREAT coach but if he doesn't win a Super Bowl soon, it doesn't really mean much other than some records and awards.

[@JayminStation]

It’s ironic that Tomlin is almost too good. They will never be team to draft high because their records are too high. So they can’t draft a good quarterback. They gotta make do with what they can attain.

[@jameslee8519]

You have to think about the QBs he worked with besides ben and it's not his fault Ben messed up some playoff games along the way,the game changed since dilfer won a SB with Baltimore all I'm saying you need a QB to win playoff games you notice all the good team's have a good field general

[@SneakySnake133]

@@JayminStationchiefs won a playoff game before drafting Mahomes. How are the bengals, jags, or panthers doing now?

[@giuseppenaylor]

@@SneakySnake133with Alex smith and Andy Reid. Not exactly Duck Hodges or the titans backup QB for comparison.

[@Standgedicht]

Some people act like beeing around .500 for a decade is our superbowl... If things working good it`s allways Magic Mike - if things went south the end of every seasons (when it really matters) he has nothing to do with it. If you`re a Steelers fan for 50 years then I wonder why you`re happy with the last decade. I saw other times and for me my Steelers are made for deep playoff runs, division titles and superbowls. But with Tomlin we`re the kings of mediocrisy. We are solid at the moment but I have a lot of concerns about the offense. Arthur Smith playbook looks like Matt Canadas with tight ends and some deep shots. It`s like: First and Najee, second and Warren and a deep shot on 3rd (even when we need just a yard). Smith wasn`t a good choice in my opinion but everything that Magic Mike does is fine, right?

[@mattcampyofficial]

To the Steelers fans whining in the comments…try being a Browns fan since 1999 💔

[@dsmith33]

Steelers have never finished last in the AFC North. Haven’t finished last in their division since 1988. That’s absolutely crazy.

[@lemoynecastle6213]

What's crazy is people predicting they would be last this year when they clearly got better at QB and several other spots and they were 10-7 last year and 5-1 against the division.

[@ccarriages]

it's 3 coaches since 1969.. team was founded in 1933

[@ethanbowl2771]

Look at some of the defensive backs and role players on defense when Ben, Bell, Brown, ect played. They have always had one side carry the other. Imagine being able to play competetive football in all three phases while still winning in the margins.

[@PacketWrangler]

The Steelers red zone offense is pretty putrid. If that can improve, then this team really is dangerous in the playoffs. If not, they're a paper tiger who maybe wins in the wild card round, but that's it.

[@SugarBear74Chi]

Three coaches since 1969. That's still impressive but not the length of the franchise.

[@Wolves437]

The Steelers limped into the playoffs during the Killer B's Era. It was always rough at the end of the regular season.

[@MiltanksUncle]

They went to the AFC championship with Ben ab bell era what you mean they under achieved yall wanna leave the Brady bill factor outta that equation cmon now he’s a amazing coach with trash teams they he is the franchise

[@Parasite02]

"A lot of people talk about" == I'm not the one saying it, plausible deniability for my hot take. "Steelers might be the best team" == I want say I called it way before everyone else if it's right but if it's wrong, I said the word might, so I never really said it. First 3 seconds of this video == How to do a modern hot take

[@Sludgehammer138]

Yeah a lot of these talking heads actually think we are watching because of how right they are all of the time lol. They all have terrible opinions at times and miss on their evaluations sometimes. Even the most experienced former players have bad takes sometimes. Then every last one of them try and dance around it or diminish how wrong they were. Like bro you were wrong... it's fine.

[@johnmurphy9286]

Jesse James caught that ball in 2016. Just a reminder.

[@AwesomeStuff1983]

The Steelers have had a lot more than 3 coaches. Just 3 since 69.

[@joedilley1684]

In 2020 the steelers started off 11-0 and got bumped in the 1st rd of playoffs. I call that disappointment. The Standard shouldn't be just having a winning season, or getting in the playoffs. It should be to win a championship

[@Kdezay]

That year the schedule was not favorable early bye week and playing like 4 games in three weeks

[@jonahcomplexx1849]

@@Kdezayand an Old Ben

[@obarbeito]

And nobody thought they were a good team even with that start.

[@Paxx35]

That Covid season was abysmal. We all knew in the back of our minds that they weren’t that good even though they started 11-0

[@mrcanman20]

let’s not act like they were world beaters that year. ben was washed.

[@jimmykovalak6442]

Yes Pittsburgh has always had good luck with Head Coaches.

[@seanmanahan477]

steelers have had 16 head coaches in its history

[@kylegrover8582]

The comment saying "there's not a Steelers team I can remember that I can say underachieved". Do we not remember when they had Ben, Brown and Bell, a good O line, and an average defense and lost to the Jaguars in the divisional round.... They didn't make any super bowls with that team. That's underachieving to a lot of people

[@lemoynecastle6213]

That and getting Tebowed. But looking back it's almost incredible that team functioned so well for years before it went kerflooie.

[@Homer_the_prophet99]

When they lost at home to Jacksonville in the playoffs they underachieved, when Brady blew us out in the AFC title game they underachieved, who the hell is this guy rich ?

[@doryanpeay3474]

Steelers are the best in the league hands down

[@camicawber]

The 2020 team felt like it underachieved, but even when they started 11-0, I remember the general consensus being that they weren't THAT good. And they lost 4 of their last 5 - 5 of 6 if we count the playoff game against the Browns. But they also had 3 turnovers that helped the Browns to 28 first-quarter points, and five turnovers in the game. They should have won that game and advanced to play Buffalo and I don't see how all those turnovers are on Tomlin. Probably the 2017 team, too, for losing to Jacksonville in the first round. That wasn't the turnover disaster that the Cleveland game was, but still the Steelers had 2 turnovers (actually three, since they turned it over on downs once) to Jacksonville's none - and one of those turnovers led directly to a Jacksonville TD, which seems pretty big in what ended up being a 1-score game. But then the year before was the last AFC Championship game. I feel like we have a lot more examples of the Steelers exceeding expectations - like going 9-8 with the combo of Kenny Pickett and Mitchell Trubisky or 10-7 with those guys and Mason Rudolph. Or going 8-8 in a season where 14 of the games were started by Rudolph or Devlin Hodges.

[@Sludgehammer138]

2020 felt like a fugazi... they were winning but it just looked labored and didn't feel like they were as good as their record implied

[@AniSage]

Pittsburgh doesn’t even have the best defense in their own state

[@MarkSchrock]

Good stuff

[@steffanlukas]

to the point at 5:16, that was the worst the steelers defense has ever been, if you go look back at those games, the defense is letting up so a lot of yards and points

[@gamera5160]

I would say the Steelers underachieved in 2017, 2018 and 2020.

[@mrcanman20]

afc championship game is underachieving??? lmao

[@mrcanman20]

i’ll give you 2018… 2020 is a wash year for all teams that i wouldn’t hold much merit over.

[@gamera5160]

@@mrcanman20 The Steelers lost to the Jags at the end of the 2017 season in the divisional round.

[@ryanjamesc9996]

Steelers finish season 12-5, win the AFC North, win a playoff game or two and some Steelers fans are still gonna be salty 😤

[@daveingrey2615]

with all due respect to Tomlin as Coach of the Year, and I get he has a lot of ammo to win it, I give this year to Dan Campbell, not just for the job he has done this year but for taking the Lions from a decades-long disfunction into being the best team in the NFL

[@JohnK-e8g]

I’m a Steelers fan and I agree any other year Mike is the guy but what Campbell is doing is special esp for a city that hasn’t had it in so long

[@askinganime6023]

Cambell did the same thing last year. This year isn't special

[@jordantaylor8208]

My only argument against that is expectations. Lions were a lot of people Super Bowl pick this year. Nobody expected this kind of success from the Steelers.

[@daveingrey2615]

@@jordantaylor8208 And that is the normal way to regard Coach of the Year. By that standard, and noting Tomlin has never won, he should get a lot of juice. My suggestion is that Campbell's putting life into Detroit, which had one playoff win in the SB era, was much more difficult and amazing.

[@ScottRichard-y3r]

We’ll never have a top 15 pick is not a recipe for Super Bowl in today’s market.

[@sarsaparilla5933]

Agreed. We're long time residents of purgatory county.

[@Homer_the_prophet99]

Big Ben was never the same after the Tommy John surgery

[@Sludgehammer138]

If they can really get the offennse consistently clicking they will be the most dangerous team in the AFC come playoff time. They are flirting around with little flashes of it but still are prone to sputtering. Wilson missed a bunch of games tomstart the season but if they can really get it going and gel offensively they can beat any team, any time. They are still vulnerable rn with the inconsistencies on offense.

[@marvinshenk]

The Steelers have had a pretty good season, but it worries me that their offense can't score more than 20 pts against any teams with an above average defense. With their defense though, they usually don't have to. I think they split their games against Cinci and Cleveland, and they lose to the Eagles. The KC game and last Baltimore games could go either way. I think the Steelers finish 11-6 or 12-5.

[@kevinwalsh4652]

"Alot of people are saying the Steelers are the best team in the AFC", yeah, right...give me names, Josh and Patrick will march up and down the field on them, in fact so would Hebert. 2019 they started out like 8-0...then reality kicked in.

[@Cvweare]

Kevin O’Connell is 8-2 with Darnold who everyone laughed at and had them as a bottom three team this year. Oh ya in the nfc north. Oh ya with a combined loss total of 10 points. Sure let’s just give it to Tomlin with TJ watt and not one but two starting qbs. The previous years don’t matter. The media sucks.

[@daniskye5406]

Reminder: The Pittsburgh Steelers haven’t won a playoff game since 2016. Any other teams fan base would be calling for their HC’s job but because Tomlin wins regular season games no one cares. Why is that?

[@daviddavis9835]

Because the Steelers don't operate like other teams. You said fan base. The Steelers don't operate under the whims of their fanbase. If they did, Tomlin would have been fired 5 years ago. Look at the rest of the NFL. They change coaches and GMs like they change underwear. Quick fact, the Steelers have the most win of any team since the merger(1970). They've had 3 coaches, two of whom have a gold jacket and the current one will have one.

[@kylegrover8582]

The comment saying "Mike Tomlin consistently overachieved with less talent" can go both ways because why haven't the Steelers had talent then? Why all of a sudden they have found talent? Is Mike just handcuffed with the players he gets? It's hard for me to believe he doesn't have any say in what talent comes and goes from Pittsburgh.

[@Standgedicht]

I wonder: Chiefs offense struggled more than ours the whole season but every media guy act like it`s the opposite. Don`t get me wrong: I´m not happy with Arthurs Smiths playcalling and I saw it coming. Way to conservative and predicable, struggles in red zone - same as in Atlanta. Every drive is: First and Najee, second and Warren and a deep shot on 3rd (even if we need just a yard). There are drives when he ran 6 times after another... And sometimes it`s looks like Matt Canada offense with tight ends. I`m not a fan and we have should hired other OCs. But Magic Mike will never hire someone that overshines him. And so we are here and looking for another .500 season and a loss in the wildcard or first round.

[@tylerevans1645]

Lmao "When have the Steelers underachieved". Say it with me, Steelers fans! Every single fucking year from 2016 - 2018.

[@seanmanahan477]

steelers had 3 coaches since 1969.....but they were around way longer than that and went through sveral coaches get your facts straight lol

[@crazypolock42]

Steelers have been routinely under achieved with Mike Tomlin.

[@mattcampyofficial]

As a Browns fan I’m telling you, they have not 😂

[@holdy_boldy96]

@@mattcampyofficialthank you 😂 I always say “We could be as bad as the Jets or the Browns” so quit it with the bullshitn

[@mattcampyofficial]

@@holdy_boldy96 facts

[@tjk5598]

2017 underachieved

[@IchigoKurosakitheSalvation]

Ain't nothing at stake. Ya'll might as well fast forward this game. Steelers gonna get the dub. It'll be the first one on TNF against an AFC North opponent too. So GG ig Steelers

[@ZacheryZimmerman-uk4ti]

Ravens didn't beat the Browns.. Steelers aren't super bowl contenders like the Ravens apparently..so it's not a guarantee

[@NothingButTheFacts777]

Steeler fan, BUT they have been hanging on by their fingernails. They did hang with Buffalo in last winter’s playoff game, but I still don’t expect much from them. The next three games will tell a lot for me.

[@isaackanan711]

15-2

[@ScottRichard-y3r]

All we have done is guarantee we never get in the running for a new franchise qb

[@amberreed4443]

Draft picks are not a sure thing.

[@ScottRichard-y3r]

Nothings a guarantee but never having a top 15 pick makes it that much harder to get to the ring

[@alexcorbin6198]

First comment whoot whoot

[@jeffkadlec8264]

Steelers are going to lose tonight, bc Tomlin ALWAYS loses trap games. Tomlin needs to go. Regular season wins are nice, but playoff & SB wins are all that matters. Let Tomlin go be Andy Reid somewhere else. He's lost his fire in Pittsburgh.

[@patricksalazar6949]

Mike tomlin will never be coach of the year that in fact will always be true his teams are lackluster and weak all the time come playoffs.lhe should still be fired after this year if he gets bump again from playoffs in the wild card round

[@Wolves437]

L take