Neighbor's dock keeping others from water access

[@rhoonah5849]

This was 3 years ago and I bet the reporter is still waiting to hear back from the county on "Monday".

[@cpldet]

That kids wants and needs are more important than everyone else’s. Something as important as a dock is reasonable to turn all the neighbors lifes upside down. His parents must be so proud of him.

[@TheSeanocasey]

Needs his arrogant ass kicked. Punk.

[@jeffreyyankee9714]

Parents are probably just like him. No courtesy for others.

[@TheSeanocasey]

@@jeffreyyankee9714 Yup. He learned it from somewhere. Entitled Dick. He would be very sorry where I'm from.

[@astroknight5]

How does something as unimportant as a dock turn someone's life upside down?

[@jeffreyyankee9714]

@@astroknight5 fyi, some make a living on the water so this could get ugly real quick.

[@shaneprescott4060]

Oh no , my neighbor's new dock is on fire

[@Tom-kn6sr]

Lol

[@sandihackett3849]

That's a good one! lol

[@markv.5962]

imagine that

[@jackfallat9516]

shane prescott, shame , terrible shame ! lol

[@wackjax1]

My exact thought when I watched this. 👍

[@akoww1000]

Something like this happens in Bellair Florida a few years back and it got real nasty. Most of the people with docks have lived there for over 20+ years and a new person moves on to the street and pulled this stunt. There wasn't notice posted like there should have been and the city gave him the green light to replace his dock. It not only blocked two other docks next to him but on the other side of the water it stopped that person from leaving their dock " they had a 50' boat". The other homeowners sued. In the end, he had to remove the dock because all the older docks were grandfathered in before new codes went into effect. The local news found out the man worked for a company owned by City's planning commissioner and that's why he got the green light so fast.

[@ericwsmith7722]

People seem to think vacant land is there for the taking .... It's a childish and self-entitled attitude

[@JustinAEgan]

This sounds just about as I expected (see below). It sounded like someone had a lot of free time on his hands to do the research needed to figure out - how to screw your neighbors, legally, with the amount of least effort. Like they say, idle hands are the devils workshop. ~.... The local news found out the man worked for a company owned by City's planning commissioner and that's why he got the green light so fast....~ A good Real Estate Agent ...must of told him, warned him of the repercussions.

[@todd5082]

I bet there is a document that talks about grandfathering in new builds.

[@carolloye3700]

Nothing like moving in and instantly become the jackass of the neiborhood😢

[@bluej854]

You mean the guy that's correct? Maybe the others should have checked before they bought.

[@MissMarinaCapri]

@@bluej854 , It’s called being a good neighbor.

[@sloppyjoe77]

@@bluej854 because he legally can doesnt mean its right makes you a bit of an a-hole

[@unnecessaryapostrophe4047]

Honestly, if you're only going to be there temporarily, it's kinda fun lol

[@rogerdickinson920]

@@bluej854 It's called due diligence. Also what prospective buyer doesn't have the property surveyed prior to purchase. I'm sure the lawyers would have required it.

[@fw1421]

Maybe the docks were built to the codes of the time and are grandfathered in?

[@donkehmcdonkey3703]

They would have been, as with nearly all non commercial constructions/properties. Imagine having to modify your house every 2 years or so to meet new insulation, tornado resistance or fire ratings. Or your car.

[@brianhaflin9799]

@Chris Kibodeaux Yes there is, Actually even if the wood just needed replace than you could still be forced to change the entire dock to meet code.

[@sparky603]

@Chris Kibodeaux Yes there is a such thing as being grandfathered in, I have an apartment building that was build in 1908 that is less than three feet from my property line. My cities current code says you can not build structures with in 15 feet of a property line. You care to explain why this 1908 apartment building is still standing if it is not grandfathered in?

[@marcuslinton310]

​@@brianhaflin9799 I would disagree with that, Brian. Replacing existing structure exactly as it was before should not lose grandfathered status, it's considered normal upkeep and repair. Most structures will only need brought up to current codes if something gets altered from it's original design.

[@texhunter1820]

@Charles Ng They will get the finger, especially if they honk. I mean why, with all the available space-time in the universe, would someone have an ego that he is entitled to an already occupied by me?

[@Ryan-jx4vh]

Work with your neighbor, man. Don’t be that guy. 🤦‍♂️

[@gsgentry1]

some neighbors are just F-ked--- can't "work" with an idiot---Stay the f- on your side of the fence ---NO Problems !

[@lanacastillo49]

He already did. They wont comply

[@612osiris]

It's too late, he is that guy.

[@digitalmediaarchives1268]

He just brought his dock to legal code and their docks aren’t to legal code and they won’t pay to bring it to code. Really not his fault. Maybe he will be using the waterfront commercially and needs it to pass and it wouldn’t have before.

[@patmcbride9853]

And buy him a bra. Those moobs!

[@skiman6810]

The guy building the dock has never had his ass kicked that's obvious.

[@tootsiedawn2016]

Why should he? He's on his own property. It's not his fault his neighbors don't know where their property lines are. He can put his dock 1/2 an inch from the property line if he wants. It's HIS property. The old man is just going to have to move his dock over. The guy gave him a 6 month notice of intent. Letting him know he was going to expand his dock. The old man should've moved his dock instead of being a prick and going to the media. He's just showing how stupid he is. Just Sayin'!

[@Kirbykin88]

rockit730 and tootsiesCreationz, there’s no reason to build the extension though! And for him to say that if the old man had “done his homework before he brought the house, he might’ve seen an issue down the road” is complete bullshit. Who plans out for what “could” possibly happen if you get shitty neighbors? Like get real people

[@robertbutler8004]

ski man what's wrong with you the young man is legally extending his dock? The older man has the audacity to complain about the young man's legal dock while his dock is illegal!!

[@robertbutler8004]

@@Kirbykin88 you moron if you had the money to live the lifestyle as these people and you wanted to legally extend your dock you would do so. It comes down to buyer beware.fool.

[@samueliam745]

but im guessing you have, ski man...many many times.

[@ussweeneyd]

The “screw you jack, I’m ok” syndrome. Very common.

[@ConnieVC1066]

I bet Michael was the best hall monitor ever.

[@games4dayz896]

Rich people problems...

[@Mr_brut3]

Yup I live in the city and our problem is finding parking for our car 🚗 🙃.... we have a neighbor that when he goes out he takes a car that is parked in the street brings out one of his many POS cars from his driveway and parks it in its place till he comes back ..

[@thewoodshop69]

I will never have to worry about shit like this

[@rogerwatkins8557]

@@Mr_brut3 if he has a driveway why doesn't the park there?

[@Mr_brut3]

@@rogerwatkins8557 he does ,for some reason nobody but his family can park in front of his house even though its a public street !

[@stanstanlison5791]

meanwhile, in the lives of the 99% 😒

[@andiamocclash397]

sounds like a dock measuring contest to me 🤣

[@yavin99]

Everyone wants a big dock.

[@DragonwithaGirlTattoo]

@@yavin99 big dock energy

[@libertyBuilders]

You know what they say about guys with big boats, they got big docks!

[@suzannadannaTARDIS]

compensation for shortcomings, IMO.

[@1f3d4p]

Sounds like he's going to have problems with his property in the near future.

[@Jason-uw3wn]

Word to the wise. Never make enemies out of your neighbors.

[@johnwinnerdz1]

If your neighbor is your enemy know the law and buy a shovel.

[@PunkMartyr]

Thats something this young guy doesnt understand. Theres no amount of dock space worth being cussed out every time you go outside your house (even if its just a subtle look and middle finger every time).

[@kf4293]

Yah, there's a _lot_ of subtle ways to make his life miserable. Depending on the prevailing wind, dandelions are a good start. 😂 Two or three Weiner dogs, that have been taught not to like that one neighbor is good too.

[@golden50s87]

SO i SHOULD PASS ON DOING A CLOSING THAT HAS A SHARED DRIVE WAY THA TTHE SELLER NEVR MENTIONED....? OH BOY

[@moewilson4605]

The guy expanding his dock may be in the right legally but morally he is bankrupt. To do that to his neighbour is mean and crappy. The bully on the lake.

[@Bankable2790]

Especially considering he is an older guy. Like really dude, "He should have done his homework?"

[@2-old-Forthischet]

I'll look into it and get back to you. That's what all of our upper management used to say. Of course, nothing ever came of anything.

[@pollypocket2282]

There is something to be said about being a good neighbor.

[@deconteesawyer5758]

They put up good fences. And stay on their side.

[@2011blueman]

This is Florida, there are no good neighbors, just "florida man".

[@androne55]

the wise person talk because he's got something to say, the fool, because he has to say something

[@chipper442]

The new guy moves in, and builds a bigger dock, to block off the established docks. The water isn't "his property" and there's such a thing as being neighborly.

[@tsmd1961]

I agree with being neighborly but the county wouldn't give permits if it wasn't possible to build in the water. I assume this is a man-made canal and rights to and in the water were given to the homeowners when the homes were built.

[@sarasmith5110]

The new guy is just building a bigger dock and has the permits to do so. He is not doing it to block anybody. He just wants a bigger dock. The water is not his property, true. But that has nothing to do with the construction of the dock on his property. Explain how he is taking the water as his. The old man is complaining because he knows he does not have a legal leg to stand on and he is wrong. Being neighborly is not calling the news to air your dirty laundry in public or to try to get sympathy when you are in the wrong. It is not the young man's fault the old man can not read a contract or research before buying.

[@rogerburns8478]

When my neighbor put up his privacy fence he went all the way to the alley blocking me from being able to pull my camper in to the back yard so i had to have my alley leveled and graveled so i could back in (small town i own my section of alley ie my responsibility) the fact of the matter is complaining wont do anything but cause drama he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

[@ednakelley814]

DID you even hear the story? That is NOT what happened. The man who made the new dock is building legally and in compliance with county codes and on his property. The neighbors docks were NOT built in compliance with codes thus is making the conflict with the new dock. THAT IS NOT THE NEW GUYS FAULT .To fix the neighbors dock and make them compliant, would solve the issue, but would cost a lot of money. The neighbor does not want to spend the money so he is trying to go after the new guy who is doing everything by the book.

[@heinsitegames5050]

I see nothing wrong here, sad that a dock built who knows how long ago wasn’t done correctly but this sure isn’t the person who’s expanding their docks fault. That’s taking away their freedom, if ya got a boat and a dock you can probably afford fixing it. It’s your problem, not his at that point.

[@dericksmith2137]

Well if the young fella was obstructing my dock with his dock, eventually he would get tired of having to rebuild his dock. 😳

[@dericksmith2137]

Well Don, except for code likes to change every few years, so the prior docks were likely to code at the time of their construction. Code tends to be more about revenue than safety. Most places allow for a grandfather claus, which should protect the older docks. But the new docks code , while legal, may cause an obstruction. The solution is for the existing docks to have to be modified. Modifications that likely require a permit. Then to be modified or altered means they lose their grandfather status and would have to comply with new code. Seems like a raw deal to the owners that already paid to build docks to the then code, to be forced to meet the new code.

[@ednakelley814]

It isn't his fault that the other neighbor's docks were not built in compliance to codes which is what is causing this problem.

[@jackfallat9516]

@mark bender , You are 100% correctamundo !

[@michaelsegur6810]

@don...i agree with you. So because he purchased property and wants to update his dock but cant because it would block a neighbor who apparently isnt compliant with his dock. Why should he be punished not to be able to do his property he wants. So dumb dumb would burn down his dock go to jail for it and forfeit any chance to go boating again...u ppl are stupid so tough at a computer saying what u would do...acting all manly.

[@richardwee9428]

And in short order, you'd be in jail, and he'd own your house and dock

[@DTB3378]

Good to know his company is called BS technology because this guy is talking BS

[@AkatsuVentures]

So the neighbor wants a "bigger dock" than his neighbors' "docks" eh? Someone appears to be over compensating. 🤪

[@bs4real]

Bwahahaha!

[@bigmikes1909]

I dont understand news reporters doing an incomplete story ;( Get back to me on monday Well then do your story on monday !!!!

[@carlspackler91]

Thank you!

[@327DD]

And now .. 2 years later ... 🤔

[@JSBselvas]

You don't understand, because you don't run a newsroom. Simply, they want people coming back for the story, of course they are going to give a piece now and then more later, its called a business.

[@caralama08]

jtheobbles86 They’re. 👍😉

[@howey935]

His deck would be catching fire in the middle of the night.

[@grangerdavid321]

Remember to wear a hood, cameras everywhere, lol

[@howey935]

@@grangerdavid321 dont worry David a ski mask would do the trick.

[@chaseviking5096]

And your house would be ketching on fire in the middle of the night and have bullets flying at it as well.

[@xxhalfemptyxx7713]

@@chaseviking5096 ooh micheal here is getting TRIGGERED!!!!!!

[@ShootLuckGaming]

And you'll be getting charged for it

[@jamesmcgrath1952]

I'm 68 now but at one time I had a docking rights problem. My mom solved the problem by draining the tub and making me go to bed.

[@johnwilson1851]

Hahaha

[@scottpieper7888]

I am sure the compliance requirements have been changed and updated that made an older dock outdated but it should be grandfathered in until repairs need to be made and then update at that time

[@billfarner1]

The existing docks should be grandfathered in. The young guy is just being a jerk.

[@supertrooper1600]

So the guy who’s following all the rules is in the wrong?

[@supertrooper1600]

@The Emperor Protects but he literally explains why he’s not wrong both legally and morally. He has a right to build on his own property. He’s legally right because he submitted his plans and everything was to code. Morally he’s right because as he explains, it’s the buyers responsibility to see if the house you are buying is properly inspected to make sure everything is to code. The reporter even looked it up and found that he was correct. Was does the burden fall on the guy who did everything right and not the ones who did everything wrong?

[@supertrooper1600]

@The Emperor Protects but the disruption is the fault of the other neighbors. They clearly say in the vid, that the other neighbors docks are not within the code. If they were, then this guys dock would not be interfering with their docks. So you can’t say just because the others are inconvenienced that this guy is some how incorrect. Now that’s the end of it.

[@supertrooper1600]

@The Emperor Protects you too

[@RipleySawzen]

@@supertrooper1600 All of the docks were up to code when they were originally put in. I guarantee it. Somewhere along the line, some law changed and now this bullshit happens. "My neighbors should have known an asshole might move in and block their dock access" certainly does not make you morally right. You might be a psychopath.

[@curlyservicestate2832]

The county could care less as long as someone keep paying fees

[@caralama08]

Curly servicestate “Could care less”??? So that means they DO care SOME?

[@Augdogfrogslog]

@@caralama08 wow you can read

[@Peter-td3yk]

No, the county had guidelines and the other properties did NOT follow them..

[@J3AD]

i don't see update, but i bet this is Earls end of life last home, been there a longtime already and all the other docks have been setup sameway, long before some code was enacted, now new young man is upgrading to what code is and he did give notice. not sure why they didn't consider combining and docks and make it work for both without screwing all the neighbors and causing a chain reaction of upgrades for all. and still be good human beings toward each other.

[@motorcycleislife8296]

"in his cowboy boots". What did his cowboy boots do?

[@robevans5222]

My lakefront property is subject to a shoreline management plan that is administered in response to FERC requirements (since the lake is used for power generation). The shoreline management plan does not allow docks to exist within 15' of the extensions of the property lines into the lake. So neighboring docks are each at least 15' from the property line that separates their respective properties (30' minimum between them). Some property owners feel that the shoreline management plan encroaches on their 'rights', but without it or something like it, situations like that depicted in this video are going to happen.

[@kilted777]

So a little rich boy moves into the neighborhood and then decides to throw his weight around and bully his elderly retired neighbors who are struggling to survive on a fixed income. Then hides behind the law to excuse his harassment! This guy needs to be taken "behind the schoolhouse" and taught a lesson in respecting his elders.

[@benekaiwi1]

The county doesn't run the water ways. That's the State. State supersedes County. Old man needs to go to the Department of Land and Natural Resources at tge State Building

[@boebishop405]

The docks were built on Michael's property. As stated in the beginning if you have to drive through your neighbors property to access your driveway that requires an easement. I've seen garages cut in 1/2 because they were on someone else's property.

[@knightchallenger]

The old saying " why cant people leave things alone "

[@ggfcfhvyy9272]

knightchallenger 20 20 if it ain’t broken don’t fix it

[@Peter-td3yk]

Because he is free to use his property any legal way he wants..

[@MrRolexOmega]

Cause it’s my property and I get to do what I want with it.

[@stephenland9361]

I'm surprised by all the vitriol being flung at the younger guy. If your dock is not in compliance, you have no argument. It's up to you to make it right. It's not up the compliant guy to put up with your illegal dock.

[@robertfitzgerald4759]

When the neighbor applied for permit, he probably did no show existing docks around his addition and the impact of his dock toward others. If he had, then the governing board would have seen the conflict and might not have certified.

[@shaunmcinnis1960]

Yes. There could be a grandfather clause of some sort like everything else.

[@larrygolden1648]

So many people that are angry with the old man for complaining. We don't know the whole story. If the old mans dock was built under an old code it would be grandfathered in under the old code. If he has to modify it because the new dock forces him to then he would have to bring it up to code. The county should come out and survey the situation and help them resolve the problem. Also Lee county code say that any structure or moored boat should not block access to adjacent properties so the young guy could be screwed.

[@warrenrayledbetter9957]

I don't think this is a "built to code" issue. It looks like the two docks are at angle from each other. It also appears that the new dock is significantly longer than the older dock. By doing that, it is built right in front of the older dock.

[@MariaMaria-dw1sn]

The statue only applies to legally permitted and build docks...It's not grandfathered, it's just that it never came up before the sale of one o the 2 houses.

[@ryanmcgowan3061]

This would be much, much clearer if it was on land what is actually going on, and it would be clear that the original neighbor is in the wrong. When you live on a lake, your property lines usually extend into the water. The dock itself probably doesn't encroach from the sounds of it, but the access does. In other words, the first dock was using the neighbor's property as a "driveway" for his boat. Also, it looks like they are on a concave curve. So ANY dock added will crowd the surrounding docks. If your existing dock prevents your neighbor from being able to build his own because it wasn't built correctly, and you're using *his* property to access *your* dock, you're not just equally culpable. You're fully culpable. The new owner notified his neighbors of the encroachment, and they didn't do anything about it, possibly because they knew their dock was built wrong. Unless he bought and recorded an easement to use his neighbor's land to access his dock, he is in the wrong and has to move his dock.

[@darkseid6412]

finally somebody who hasn't smoked meth to complete mental failure

[@darrylgiffin446]

The one who’s going to have problems is the neighbour extending his dock with the rest of his neighbours for as long as he lives there

[@janisgay5507]

Well, he is just going to turn around and sell the property for a hefty profit.

[@mae7203]

And his dock might catch fire in the middle middle of the night too

[@chaseviking5096]

Nope. All the neibors who have illegal docks including Earl are going to have problems because of Earl being a entitled spoiled old brat. The problems are going to come from the county which is going to make the fix their docks or the county removes them and the neibors pay more than it would have coast to fix their docks.

[@chaseviking5096]

@@mae7203 and Earl will be charged with arson and spend the rest of his spoiled entitled old life in prison.

[@darrylgiffin446]

Chase Viking yeah well the neighbour extending his dock won’t have much use for it when his boat is sunk

[@brakthalas]

"Imagine having to drive over your neighbors property." So an easement.

[@Well_I_am_just_saying]

How did this end? Did the young guy finish his dock as planned? Did the Neighbors modify their docks to be up to code?

[@dillchives]

Just because you CAN be an jerk doesn't mean you need to be. The older guy(s) might have plenty of time to figure out some petty ways to irritate the younger guy, though, whether through legal technicalities or otherwise. That seems to be part of a lot of these neighbor dispute videos I seem to have gotten roped into lately.

[@bradyh2747]

But the law says I can be an asshole so that's what I'm going to be!!!!!!

[@rbodell]

how is he being an asshole, it is the neighbors that are out of compliance, or did you just comment on the title ?.

[@weltonvillegal6258]

Unfortunately, when he needs help or his house is on fire, he’s going to be out of luck. Human nature.

[@lilorbielilorbie2496]

Brady H you don,t need a law to be an asshole.

[@boedude8496]

not included in this report is whether or not the other owners attempted any discussions to find out what exactly would be happening. if the 'rich guy' informed them but they didnt respond then its all on them

[@timothyterrell1658]

So

[@rrudydedogg3779]

Leave it to the government......."I'm busy now, I'll get back with you later.....if ever."

[@hardluckoff-road798]

If I could no longer access my slip I would just anchor my boat behind his slip. He wouldn’t get his boat out unless I decided to take mine out. What’s good for the goose.

[@Throw.Cheese]

And you'd be impounded, as you're occupying his property. Acting cute doesn't yield positive results.

[@randominternet5586]

Dude, you'd lose your boat. The point is, your dock should be built so that after leaving the dock you stay on your water and then the public right of way. If you build a dock on a property line, then set the slip up so you have to go across someone elses property to get to your dock - you're going to have a hard time of things.

[@thebaldeagle17]

Look, if he is up to code then he is up to code. The codes need to be changed otherwise. I had a neighbor call the town with concerns about the setbacks of a shed I was building. I was good, but he was not. When they arrived they noticed his carport/storage building was on the property line, violating code. He thought his building was grandfathered in, but found out it was not. Had to move it 10 ft. Research before accusing.

[@jetjazzdauntless218]

Great way to make friends with the neighbors.

[@chrisjanicki4326]

Soo it sounds like the county is at fault and let people build wherever in the water

[@David53D]

The young dude seems arrogant and unlikable but he may have a point in the others not having properly researched the legality of the situation. Sounds like a job for LAWYERMAN with his super powers to extract peoples money.

[@georgegarner1425]

David Stutz hey now I like lawyers and their useful powers lol but that is a funny one

[@kevinkev500]

You're right, that Michael seems to be a real douch. Many times these older docks are not in modern day compliance but are "grandfathered in". The County is at fault here for granting the permit without visiting the property. And Michael's an a$$hole.

[@istvankovacs4154]

Just because someone has been shitting on your front lawn for the last 20 years while nobody lived on that property doesn't make it legal. Going by the same logic, just because someone has been keeping their boats on the property that you LEGALLY own for 20 years beforehand does not make it legal. As much as I symphatise with the grandpa here, his dock is built in an ilegal way.

[@frankmoore3598]

@@istvankovacs4154 the problem is that they weren't built illegally twenty years ago. City revives it's codes and doesn't care what problems it created. And then a selfish neighbor moves in and doesn't care about neighborhood norms. So yeah, no law about being a jerk to your neighbors.

[@andyfletcher3561]

@@istvankovacs4154 Actually that could create an easement...

[@likearockcm]

He apparently modified the dock.Google maps shows all three still have access.check it out at 5980 baker ct fort myers fl 33919

[@humanresources3545]

My neighbour bought a mercedes the same colour as mine. Isn't that disgusting. My neigbour added another story to his mansion and now my mansion doesn't get that beautiful vista we had. But at least we do loathe poor people. So we have something in common.

[@screwybruce]

In places like Bellevue area of Washington State, air space is as valuable as lot space. Building up can get you sued.

[@GG-ou2tz]

How can he get a permit that allows him to close off the other docks ?

[@tsmd1961]

It may not be an issue with being up to code but how the docks were located and oriented on their water frontage previously that worked for everyone and now the new guy is legally changing the location &/or size of his that's causing the problem. Similar issues have happened when someone wanted to tear down an old house and build a new one bigger and closer to the neighbors. It impacts and changes the lives of the older residents but is totally legal. It can even be beneficial to to older residents because it usually boosts their property values - along with their property taxes.

[@JimCar71]

You didn’t watch the whole video did you?

[@terryfonz4603]

I think most people commenting didn’t watch the story! New guy is building the way the code and covenants tell him to do it! All the other docs were built wrong he cannot get a permit to build his wrong he can only build his the way they approve!! The new guy has no choice either don’t build a dock or build they way everyone else was supposed to to begin with!

[@darkduude]

Don't code inspectors check these situations out???

[@jessicabixler1658]

@@terryfonz4603 or he decides to build a bigger one that fs up everyones.

[@billsmith1486]

Always nice to have a south end of a horse headed north neighbor.

[@FranciscoRodriguez-be6ik]

The inconsiderate and greedy nature of the rich, knows no limits!

[@FranciscoRodriguez-be6ik]

@Jeff Young Absolutely correct but that's not the case here! Clearly not!

[@astroknight5]

So the old guy is greedy because he didn't renew his dock according to regulations to save his money? And now caused his neighbor trouble.

[@malenurse1999]

You are what is wrong with this country period. Laws who needs them. I’m sure you would be perfectly happy with a neighbor building a driveway across yours. Then when you tried to correct it and the neighbor complained you would just say okay. You are an idiot.

[@dianeericson7900]

@Jeff Young Using what is there is one thing. Adding on and causing problems is another. It's the same as people with 6 teens who each have a car (!) buying a house with a narrow 15' driveway, and expecting the neighbors to be okay with their kids and the kids' friends parking all over the neighbors' lawns, blocking their driveways and mailboxes, playing loud music and screeching until after midnight in the street. Would you be okay with that, too? To me, a good neighbor would have purchased house and property according to the current family requirements of a huge driveway, 4-car garage and parking in their own yard, and not have expected the neighbors to provide solutions or put up with the overflow.

[@dianeericson7900]

@Jeff Young Is this the same dock? "The residence that would be served by the dock is located on a nearby street. McGuigan is owner and partner at The Firestone, Los Cabos Cantina in Fort Myers, and Ford's Garage." "What's more important, a bigger dock or being friends/ getting along with with your neighbors?"

[@bzsbzs350]

There are two reasonable sides here and I agree with both people, but my question would be why is a bigger dock needed? If its just for appearance then I would say he is in the wrong, now if its because he needs it to accommodate a bigger boat then he is in the right.

[@kevinmorris7722]

We were here first has nothing to do with it. The dock that's restricted is in the wrong. NO question.

[@Handymanphilly]

I’m so sad that wealthy people in the most expensive place to live in the country are having problems with their luxury docks.

[@jamesanderson2876]

...hahaha good one

[@mdeluco4675]

Miss the point much?

[@Handymanphilly]

@@mdeluco4675 nope. I got it. 😂 I suppose you missed the sarcasm…

[@JustinAEgan]

It appears to be an issue of what happens when or If the new guys boat is stored or "lifted"out of the water? Those boat guys don't want the stains, maintenance required if the boats stay afloat - especially in bad weather. the 'new guy' is causing a ripple effect all down the access way. I wonder if its a tidal thing or a real issue? Wait a few years....Global warming will fix the problem - Maybe?... rising tide lifts all boats.

[@akeith4600]

one neighbor I had tried to say that a small street next to his property was his driveway . he removed the street sign. I fixed that real quick

[@PenisMcWhirtar]

A gang of youths have declared my neighbourhood their "hood" and have "tagged" it to inform other gangs. At the time of writing, we have not found a solution.

[@carlspackler91]

@@PenisMcWhirtar.22 long rifle??

[@istvankovacs4154]

@@carlspackler91 Or calling the police after gathering enough evidence through CCTV? I don't mean that I wouldn't hate being in such a situation, but as long as law and order stay in effect you should rather call your local law enforcement before making any rash decisions. There is a BIG difference between self defense and murder.

[@carlspackler91]

@@istvankovacs4154 No one mentioned murder. It was said half jokingly, but with a weapon as accurate as a .22 , you could teach them a quick lesson they wouldn't soon forget without risking their life.

[@jnjackson87jj]

@@carlspackler91 Shit, you don't even have to shoot it. The junkies that were breaking into my neighbors car never came back around after they seen me come out of my back gate into our joint driveway holding my Springfield xd.

[@richardmartin6533]

All you do is find a neighbor that lives in-between the new dock and the gulf, fundraise for his dock improvement project, and make it so Micheal can't get his boat out to sea.

[@alexwitteried3893]

In Washington I think there would be standing to claim usage of the out of codes docks cannot be infringed if they have been used for 7+ years that way. The same laws that say if part of your property includes a path commonly used by the public to access the beach and you post nothing to deter them then after 7 years of use it is still your property but the public has legal president to expect access.

[@ShaighJosephson]

Actually, the affected neighbor can sue the previous owner/realestate agency for not disclosing the problem...

[@deconteesawyer5758]

Often title guarantee firms are on the hook in property line misrepresentations on a sale. And as to that libtard twit Diane who says she would rather move , Go ahead.

[@marianneschumacher2939]

The affected neighbor would have to prove the prior owner knew about the situation. You are only legally obligated to disclose that which you know about.

[@charlenejandik6587]

THIS is why you submit dock plans and get them approved BEFORE building a dock. The younger man is building within his right-of-way and may need it that big for his boat. Sorry, but the neighbor is in the wrong. You can't dictate how someone will build on THEIR property just because YOU screwed up.

[@jamespipkins1958]

His project would mysteriously catch fire in the middle of the night

[@nancyhoward7005]

James Pipkins good idea but he would just get richer on insurance. Probably why he did it

[@jimb9369]

@@nancyhoward7005 - not if you make it look like he did it.

[@mr.vinegaroon3132]

@@jimb9369 My thoughts exactly. Hot time on the old dock tonight. Take his boat too.

[@akoww1000]

@@nancyhoward7005 Most homeowner insurance on water doesn't cover boat docks for good reason, the average home would file claims at least one or more times a year lol

[@Evil-Jesus]

Fuckin Eh right!!!!

[@SurgeMMO]

Legally right but morally wrong. Some people don’t see the distinction.

[@samueliam745]

like you. youre a moron.

[@SurgeMMO]

Samuel Iam why’s that then?

[@samueliam745]

@@SurgeMMO did you comment without actually watching the video? the homeowner extended his dock--which was in legal compliance both before and after the proposed extension. then neighbor's dock was NOT in compliance and BECAUSE it was not in compliance it restricted his access if/when the compliant dock was extended. This is pretty basic shit here. How is it that you fail to grasp what is going on here?

[@SurgeMMO]

Samuel Iam Yes I watched it and yes I understand what’s going on. This new owner is extending his dock. He’s making the dock as big as he’s permitted. The older docks that are in situ where built before the new codes where instated. While he is not doing anything illegal he has now docked other docks. His actions have had negative impacts on his neighbour and community. That is why I said it’s morally wrong.

[@samueliam745]

@@SurgeMMO first, where did you get the impression that the older docks were built before new codes were instated. old or new, all docks are required to be up to code. and I think you better get yourself a dictionary and look up the word 'morality.'

[@TheSouthIsHot]

I wonder what the update is on this case. I feel bad for the older neighbor but the younger neighbor seemed able to prove that he was right and building within the codes.

[@davidd6759]

There is always that 'first' guy who builds what he wants that makes all the others just shift a little and twenty years down the road - this is what happens. A new guy comes in and wants to do what he legally is allowed to do. Sounds like all the others need to revise their docks. This story is three years old. I wonder what ended up happening.

[@sandihackett3849]

The younger man seems to care only for himself. People are so uncaring sometimes, he could be a good neighbor, but he doesn't give a hoot. As long as he has the law on his side (and I guess he does), he will remain arrogant and all-mighty! But he won't have many friends in that neighborhood.

[@brianhaflin9799]

Maybe some of it is that he has to bring the dock up to modern codes?

[@sandihackett3849]

@@brianhaflin9799 Wouldn't they mention that? Or did I miss it?

[@sandihackett3849]

@Patriot Jefferson I just think there could be some type of compromise........But the younger one has the law on his side and he acts quite arrogant about it........ Listening to him in this video, he doesn't even care about his neighbors. I don't know how this could be fixed and it's to bad all the way around. Maybe the older neighbor will have to purchase a canoe that may fit in his little space, if he can't come up with $20,000 to upgrade or whatever he has to do.

[@jonredd650]

I remember paying an extra $1000 dollars to the club because my yacht was 2 inches too long! Unreal. I changed clubs and got me some friends!

[@surveyordave]

the new dock may be in compliance as far as contruction goes, he may be in compliance, but that doesn't mean he's being a good neighbor. the ultimate fault lies with the original developer and how the lots were laid out.

[@tsmd1961]

Not necessarily. Whomever put in the old guys dock may have oriented it in a direction for the size of boats that were common at the time and it didn't interfere with the other dock. Now that the new guy is seeming expanding his legally, the old guy may be out of luck. He can probably still use his dock with some slight modifications but moving the boat lift would be the expensive part.

[@MNDashcam]

Doesn't a dock have 2 sides? Why can't both neighbors just use one side of the dock? Even if the wanted to make it double wide, there should still be plenty of shoreline between the two homes to make sure there is plenty of space to both have access to one larger dock.

[@michaeljwoodwi]

Looks like the existing dock guy was using the new dock guy's access point, and the other neighbors down the way did the same thing. A domino effect. New guy comes in and does what everybody else should have done in the first place.

[@ericwsmith7722]

Finally a voice of reason, the old guy expanded his dock and expected the owner of the right of way to just give it up !

[@Tipjar333]

It's unfortunate, but the young guy is doing everything right. The other neighbors either failed to do their due diligence, had incompetent inspectors during escrow, knowingly made a risky purchase, or created the violations themselves.

[@jerryshay221]

His dad flushed the best part of that AH

[@lordlandbeast]

Why is everyone pissed at the new guy Why have a boat and waterside property if you don't have enough money to maintain it

[@paul-br2fs]

this looks like it could be a case of all the docs passed code enforcement when built originally but changing terms means rules have changed over time with the other docs being grandfathered this is more likely with all the others being the same and only the new expanded one being different

[@veryhandymann]

The past docks MAY be grandfathered in so they don't have to meet the current code. Then they couldn't be blocked in right ?

[@marcuslinton310]

Not if the dock in question was built without a permit, which is the case here. That's the whole point of getting the permit. The permit not only establishes the time line, it also says the dock was approved by the city/town and meets the code of that time period. In the future, he would have had some legal grounds, but he took a short cut and that's on him. Basically, whoever built their dock first, everyone else piggybacked off that design, so if the first dock never got a permit, it screwed them all up.

[@peach495]

Legally, he's doing nothing wrong. If I were his neighbor. Legally, i would be doing something wrong.

[@peach495]

​@Troy Hendrickson Taking matters into my own hands & fucking this guy up is admitting I'm a coward? Great way to demonstrate you're a troll.

[@Wriggs74]

Same kind of thing happened to me. I wanted to buy a stunning country cottage but if I wanted to shuttle in cattle or let my friends drive their or my vehicles onto my land. I had to ask for permission to drive over a meter of my new neighbours land. So in the end I chose not to move there.

[@bennym1956]

their should have been an easement, usually you can't sell landlocked property !1

[@oldb-1kenobi]

The young guy is within code and has every right to his project. The old guy has known forever that his dock wasn't in compliance but just didn't want to spend the money to correct it.

[@1braincellwhm]

The old guy is being considerate of his neighbors. To correct the dock would block his neighbors until they also corrected theirs. This isn't "not up to code", these docks are old and we're in compliance originally, grandfathered into new code. But if new guy wants to be bad neighbors, I would have been more than happy to make his life a living hell.

[@XmanSully]

Let me file that in the "WHO GIVES A F**K" cabinet under "private neighbors' dispute that has absolutely nothing to do with me"

[@ShanesHobbyShop]

Would love to know an Update on this story. What was the outcome?

[@ThatswhatIthought2]

"Its in compliance, otherwise i dont think the county would have issued a permit." Ok. You obviously have no idea the of the ineptitude of government employees

[@rtgbhreth]

gl if he is ever in trouble. neighbors just gonna sit and watch on lawn chairs

[@Peter-td3yk]

Like neighbors could really give a damn.. Yea right they would help.. But i would..

[@johnayers8990]

I can see it now -"fear they neighbor" waterway edition😂💯

[@kyzor-sosay6087]

John Ayers love that show,man.Be careful with fucking neighbors,never know what the hell is going in someone’s life.👍🏽

[@ernieforrest7218]

When i built my dock, the Corp of Engineers had to approve the design before the county would issue a permit. I would assume the same would apply to any changes to the original approved design.

[@Samuel-I]

Were those two docks in compliance at the time they were constructed? If so, then they are Grandfathered in and NOT out of County Compliance.

[@rogersmith7808]

The guy building has every right to make improvements on his own property in compliance with local codes. And he's correct, when those other people bought their properties they should have checked on the codes to ensure they were compliant as well.

[@Rean-the-Bean]

There’s one in every neighborhood

[@lilorbielilorbie2496]

Angel some times there is more than one. and they usually run together.

[@carlspackler91]

Always gotta be one.

[@carlspackler91]

@@KingPossum Shut up stupid.

[@GG-ou2tz]

He should get a permit that allows him to charge the other docks a toll while he’s at it

[@PunkMartyr]

Username checks out lol

[@pargolf3158]

The driveway comparison does not make sense.

[@shadowman3591]

I hate when people follow the rules but in a rude way. If you know you're blocking his way out to the water, why are you still expanding your dock. There are a lot of things I can build that would affect my neighbor in a bad way but benefit me. Do I do it? No. Because you have to respect your fellow neighbor. Love thy neighbor.

[@viperslate]

This is the same scenario as someone living illegally in the country for 20 years finally gets caught and kicked out, the fact that they were illegal in the first place is the law. The dock was illegal for many years the new doc is complying with code that's just a fact it sucks for the old man but the new neighbor is right.

[@tsmd1961]

Annie and Otis, how do you know the old guy's dock was legal, in compliance with the 'old' code or got a variance? I don't believe either was mentioned in the video. I'm guessing it isn't so much a matter of codes but that a certain amount of space and access was deeded to the homeowners and the old guy's dock is legal as is the new guy's but the old guy's dock and lift are oriented or located in the wrong position and the new guy's new and supposedly legal design is causing the other residents grief. The reporter did a horrible job of getting the facts and reporting them just to drag the story along.

[@carlspackler91]

@annie hernandez Actually, they'd make you do it, and fine you every day you didn't.

[@zombiejesuspals]

Telling an old guy who bought his property when you were probably still in diapers "if he had done his homework" is a special kind of entitlement.

[@gbear1005]

why does your dock keep catching on fire?

[@NolaH-sb4vf]

Lighter fluid a matches would fix the problem

[@markseaman4750]

Were the older docks built to the code that was in place when they were built? Did the code change after the older ones were built? Would the owner of the existing dock have a right to sue the original builder of it for failing to build it properly?

[@stlstreets1318]

Its not the size of your dock its how you use it 😉 👍

[@bjornyesterday2562]

Sounds like all the other docks are built wrong

[@paulatkinson4439]

Young yuppie that is living the ME GENERATION life. Vigilante justice is in order. If creative enough, you can cook his goose. Karma carries some mighty hefty interest. How about a Grandfather clause ?

[@DDay-vv9ec]

Accidents happen with gasoline and matches.

[@austinconant8476]

I get so frustrated with news stories that report before there is a resolution. What happened!?!?!?