FPBs Upwind Comparison: FPB 64 and FPB 83 Going Upwind

This video follows FPB 64-1 Avatar and FPB 83 Wind Horse going upwind in close sea states, for a great comparison on how each design handles the ride.

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We have a goal of building our first custom built boat built in 2024. We are looking at shipyards in Malaysia and Taiwan. Of course that can change over the next few years. We are hoping to enter the design phase in 2023 and nail down the design. One thing for sure is that I am VERY interested in this type of sailboat inspired powerboat. I also like the idea of building from aluminum very much though I'm not at all married to it. Our boat will be anywhere from 90 to 110 feet with MONEY being the ultimate determining factor. I have already sent several of these videos to builder in both countries and received some feedback. One builder insiste that we build from what they know (makes sense) fiberglass and they insist that it can be of similar strength and performance to these boats. One thing all of the builders I have submitted these videos to is this: They ALL come back with the same thoughts I had in that these boats above deck aesthetics are dated. In fact we received a rendering of a 93 foot version of one of these boats that has significantly updated above the deck design that include raked back front glass with somewhat less glass on the sides, though still plenty and about 50% (maybe 30%?) more freeboard. One designer likened the above deck aesthetics of the FPB's as a boxy American RV. All square and functional with little form or art. I'm not sure how much "art" I want in my next boat but I do know I want a sleeker looking design with raked front widows and possibly a flybridge (not married to that idea either as long as we can remote control her from anywhere on the deck) but I am VERY interested in the hull design of these FPBs (and I rather think the hull is VERY artful btw) I insisted that I liked the safety of a self righting boat with active stabilizers but also a boat with the capability to travel in stormy weather north of the UK and up around Norway as well as the fact that we are based in North Carolina and we also want to travel around South America at some point...so I was informed more waves dictate more more freeboard...I'm not sure if that's the case though? Anyone with experience have any thoughts? We currently sail a 63' (LWL, 70 OAL) sailboat and do so with much automation and ALWAYS have a crew of at least a captain and mate even though its an older boat. We have crossed the Atlantic and back to NC twice and sail between parts of Ireland and the UK but never ventured in the North Atlantic (due to time constraints AND fear. The captains have all said it was safe but we have not yet felt the need for THAT much adventure). What do you think? A FPB design with a more modern aesthetic and significantly more freeboard? She would fit in better at Marinas too though that's not really my goal as we don't intend to hand out in Marinas we DO want to be able to have the boat be operated by a charter company and professional crew when we don't use her so that we can possibly keep her busy and if more modern I would assume shoe would be more popular with the charter customers. We will almost never operate this boat by ourselves (Never say never). Edit: I forgot to mention that THIS is the video that a Taiwanese designer commented on and told me that more freeboard anda flared bow would all but eliminate the spray in the small seas that were spraying the widows in this video. He did mention that the smaller boat on this video is about half the size of the boat we want to build. Also, one designer was perplexed and laser focused on why these boats have what he called "water traps" on the forward decs in front of the helm. He said that the boats take on too much spray even in smaller saes and then trap significant amounts of water on the deck instead of having a deck designed to not "trap" water. Something I has not noticed until he brought it up. You can even see a small pool of water trapped in one of these videos that I had not noticed before.

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@ 6.44 Linda makes the comment that these two FPBs (64 and 83 feet) have the same displacement. That amazes me. Really?? How? ... Wow.