Frame Drum Vs. Hoop Drum: What's the Difference?

[@drnomad16]

Finally! Someone who knows what they are talking about! Thank you!

[@thedreamingdrum]

Thanks for watching!

[@bernardinelermite1133]

I have a 15" hoop drum that I bought without really knowing the why and how. It turned out to be great for lap style playing (I'm not at all into the shamanic stuff, but more into relaxation with some transe inducing slow beats). I was looking for a drum with a deep organic sound, not too resonant (because of the neighbors), and I absolutely love the sound of it ! It's a goat skin drum and the only problem is that it is super reactive to temperature and hygrometry changes. I only play at home with it. The other point is that I cannot play it upright style due to its size and weight, and having no thumbhole. But I also have 2 Remo Fiberskyn (12" and 14") to play in any conditions, and up to now I'm super happy with my little drum family. 😊 Thanks for your videos : I appreciate how calm you speak, and how well you explain. You make it look and sound easier than it is ! 😅👍🏼

[@lindagunzelmiller6332]

Answered many questions re frame drums. Thanks!

[@thedreamingdrum]

Happy to hear that! Thanks for watching, Linda!

[@cutechiangels]

Thx Bobi for the explanations. 👍

[@randomnotes]

Very informative - thank you!

[@thedreamingdrum]

Thanks for watching -- glad it was informative!

[@mithinie]

Thank you ❤

[@WoodwindSpirit]

Thank God you decided to run a KZbin channel. 😍 So many helpful videos! 🙏✨

[@thedreamingdrum]

This warms my heart -- thank you so much! I'm happy to hear you are benefiting from the videos.

[@BarbaraGail_drum_song_dance]

Nicely done, Bobi! 🌟🙌🏽🌟 Folks might wanna know that sometimes the Remo economy hand drums (the HD series you showed with the dark frame), don’t always come with the 4 holes. The last time we ordered lots, about 16 of them (12”, 14”, and 16”), none had the hole. 🤔 Holes can be drilled... But I’d go to someone who knows not only how to drill into a resin composite, but also who measures meticulously so that the holes are evenly spaced. Hope you’ve shared this video in our women’s frame drum community on Facebook! 😊🙏🏽✨💖

[@thedreamingdrum]

Thanks for watching, Barbara -- and thanks for the additional info on the Remo drums. Very good to know!

[@BarbaraGail_drum_song_dance]

@@thedreamingdrum you’re welcome! Yeah it was news to me, too! Please keep it up! 🌟

[@mkat2369]

I wish Remo had the Tar you show with the holes

[@OriginalFallofMind]

They do. I also have a 22" frame that has predrilled holes for dowels or rope. Its actually pretty light for a largee drum. You can easily make a thumb hole with a hole saw or dremel if you wanted to.

[@JohnJuddMusicStudio]

Hello there!! Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. Can you confirm what diameter that hoop drum that is?

[@mkat2369]

The Amazon link you share doesn’t show the same Remo Tar you show 🤔

[@iano1973]

Does anyone know what happened to Steve Kauder? His website beardrum is no more

[@DeepMindfulness]

Appreciate the video (thought it’s bummer you promoted credit cards at the end. It definitely supports addiction all right.) Thanks!

[@thedreamingdrum]

Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts. Happy drumming!

[@danmusiceasy]

Someone showed me a shamanic drum once that sounded really well with hand drumming. I think if it's very well stretched out, it can sound good enough, and it also depends on the type of skin used. But still the disadvantage is that it can go low in pitch when it is wet outside, and then you have to stretch it again using a candle or fire or a hair dryer. Because professional frame drums are so expensive, I'm considering trying this option even if it's not ideal.

[@thedreamingdrum]

Thanks for your comment, Dan. Very true about the type of head and how tightly it is stretched, not to mention the weather variations! The Remo buffalo drum sounds decent with finger techniques in free-hand or lap style. But with no thumb notch/hole, it can't be held properly to play in the upright style. When I was first learning the frame drum, I just used what I had (hoop drum and large tambourine) and still had a fun time! But when I first played a tar using the finger techniques, I couldn't believe the difference in the sound because it was designed to be played that way. Have fun with whatever fits your situation!

[@NieuweDagNL]

In my experience it mostly depends on the quality of the skin, with a consistent thickness, evenly stretched for correct tuning. Also the shape of the frame / hoop matters, espescially on the sides

[@thedreamingdrum]

@@NieuweDagNL I agree -- all those factors effect the sound quality. Thanks for adding to the conversation!

[@ellenhafen1138]

I am still confused as to what the difference is. I hear you playing a hoop drum with an animal skin membrane and a tar with a synthetic membrane. You say that there is a difference in the construction and therefore a difference in the sound. Tars were originally made with animal skin, of course, and stretched over a frame. They did not always include a thumb hole or notch. Can you tell me more about the difference in construction when both the hoop drum and the tar are made with an animal skin membrane? What make the difference in the sound when they are both made with the same membrane?

[@kaybhee6]

show both hands ,, so we know how to make those sounds