Using the contact frame with an AIO on 13900K at 5.5GHZ "auto", my temps never go over 80C. So the stock ILM is garbage.
@zeroch1ll1504 ай бұрын
Those are caseless test though, you need to put them in a case to get true consumer numbers
@Rigem.5 ай бұрын
My man, the more I've been watching alot of these KZbinrs the more I see most of them are just frontin! They can't even keep it straight up from one episode to another. They must have some of these kids running out to buy what they're saying on one episode is the latest in greatest and then a few episodes later talkin shit about the same product they just pushed a like 5/6 episodes back. I never seen anything like it No pride whatsoever in what they're doin to consumer! It's so obvious a blind person can see this shit that they're sayin just whatever for that dollar coming in at the moment💩 Thanks alot for what you do and bein who you are. I'm glad I found your channel Where I know you say what you mean and stick by it!
@vlmxs5 ай бұрын
In Europe Arctic Freezer 360 is on sale on their website for EUR 76,15 (non RGB) and the Thermalright is EUR 73. So I would probably just choose arctic :/
@vladsta38335 ай бұрын
Can it compete?
@timh6945 ай бұрын
buy a 14900ks and then turn it into the cheaper 14900k so you can use it. Great product!
@NBWDOUGHBOY4 ай бұрын
Buys AMD. CPU Dips and Stutters like Shlt. Great Product 🤔
@arigasanks2 ай бұрын
@@NBWDOUGHBOY Not a problem on X3D CPUs.
@NBWDOUGHBOY2 ай бұрын
@@arigasanks Yes it is. Its still MCM Design.
@idrinktapwater61742 ай бұрын
@@arigasanks Yes it is
@gt1man931Ай бұрын
That wasn't the context of what he did. I think it was pretty clear from the start a 360 AIO was not up to the ks.
@Doshi-lp4tn5 ай бұрын
Cache and v core are not equal. Tune the all core sync/ optimism slider and manually entered cooler score until under voltage protection engages w cache down bin. Then set max cache to this value without the undervolt protection. Then undervolt the higher core ratios till you reach best core ratio . Using v/ f set points 7-12
@Skungalunga5 ай бұрын
Well fuck. You just explained what's going on with my Arctic Freezer II 280 and 13600K.
@techbuildspcs4 ай бұрын
yeah even with a delid this thing sucks dude, 13700k and 280 as well. I had to turn off HT as games dont like it anyways.
@100500daniel4 ай бұрын
Man my Arctic LFII 280 works wonder on my 7800x3d sucks to know it's bad on Intel
@reloadingdontshoot15 ай бұрын
I had a Thermalright Frozen Edge 360; cost $65 CAD. After having their Phantom Spirit 120 and seeing it destroy or be equal to a lot of 360 AIO's, I had to try it. Was very satisfied for a sub-$70 360mm AIO I have a P3 case so swapped it for a Liquid Freezer II 420, but overall highly recommend anything Thermalright
@user-vsmsdos5 ай бұрын
I've found r15 to be the tru cpu stability stress test; dunno why r23 workload seems so much more manageable and coolable compared to r23, but loads in 15 will cause a crash where 23 would run fine.
@toonnut15 ай бұрын
Yes I've done plenty of testing and r15 is definitely the hardest on the cpu in fact I mentioned it in one of my videos 👍
@TheMagicCatQ5 ай бұрын
he knows his shit
@Kapono51505 ай бұрын
I like how he let them run for 33 mins. That’s a great 👍 number. See yall at the lodge
@HankBaxter5 ай бұрын
🤣
@Kapono51505 ай бұрын
@@HankBaxter At least your aware and intelligent enough to understand what 33 and Lodge are referring to, most dont get it
@FIVESTRZ5 ай бұрын
11:38 that snap back to business voice haha
@maveric198715 ай бұрын
It reminds me RX Vega 56 & 64. Both were overclocked out of the box with too high voltage because they had to compete against 1080.
@m8x4255 ай бұрын
ahhh, old Vega. Those needed to be undervolted out of the box, and I feel sorry for anyone that got one of those that had a low quality chip.
@McCarthy8805 ай бұрын
@@m8x425On the other hand, the Vega 56 was a steal for overclockers. With an HBM2 overclocking headroom of around 30% (via the V64 BIOS) and undervolting the core voltage to 1.07v, it would easily give a 20% performance boost, matching the 1080 at the cost of the 1070.
@johnmatsagos94154 ай бұрын
deepcool silently released the ld360 aio that is a budget version of the mystique with the same pump.
@livefastshredfaster69875 ай бұрын
I burnt a KS already and on a LARGE rad, it no longer boots and crashes on stock bios
@CubiCNooBiC2 ай бұрын
Here how you can solve the gif/jif issue once and for all: GIF stands for "Graphic Interchange Format", you say Graphic not Jraphic so GIF is spelled with G as in Gigabyte.
@skorpers5 ай бұрын
How would you say the Freezer III compares to the II in terms of intermittent load spikes like the Overwatch menu and so on?
@kisohinoki27042 ай бұрын
Just use a custom loop and a good cooler like Heatkiller Series from Watercool. Who cares about AIOs
@roki9775 ай бұрын
Someone needs to invent dice cooler with auto loader and auto mixer with little pump for aceton to cool this thing :) If dice would be enough, LN2 is not practical for every day usage :)
@Qalibra5 ай бұрын
but is it okey to have the voltage at 1.47V under these loads? I have a 14 900K too and sadly its crashing in unreal enginge games like fortnite tremendously but yeah the voltage questions interests me a lot, thanks for your video and would appreciate an answer for sure if you find the time!
@EinSwitzer5 ай бұрын
Not true / thermal compound vs Liquid Metal or soldering / the compound is under your integrated heat spreader when you chip jumps to 95c + it’s due to that
@EinSwitzer5 ай бұрын
My original NITR0 logo is in my id pic
@shadowarez13375 ай бұрын
Have you tried the direct die EK Aio im debating in refunding mine as recent news has me worried it'll not make it through lol but its first durect die id be willing to try the 14900K even delidded liquid metaled and copper topped still has 20c+ difference between some P Cores.
@outlet69895 ай бұрын
I am so happy to see @11:48 the real host appears. Here is Kitty.
@anamerican10545 ай бұрын
Shouldn't you show how to cool the bad boy? How about your custom water cooling setup? Does it cool it enough?
@naughtysyntax5 ай бұрын
Thanks for content!
@theafricanwarlord33435 ай бұрын
Great Review Jufes, really made my day keep up the great work.
@RadeonRX5 ай бұрын
Literally why Intel made delidding them still within warrenty, Intel needs to stop pushing these chips just to barely compete with AMD. Gelsinger needs to start thinking outside of the box and not rely on power pushing.
@impuls605 ай бұрын
Intel pushed the cpu 200Mhz too far. Downclock and save 50% on the cooler and no downthrottle. Even the CEP limit can be triggered causing havoc, Msi waited 1year+ to disable the CEP correctly for 14th gen. I'm on the 9th bios on Msi 790i Edge on a 500usd motherboard and have never got the same performance for 2 days straight on the MOST expensive system I've ever put together.. z790i Edge 14900k and 4080rtx, one day Pubg ok, next f'n sucks. You never now had windows are loading up you cores. 1 core 80% rest 40%, it lags because 1 core is maxed out. Not to mention the F 'n core parking in windows, you're game demand more performance and the whole game lags while an uncparked core is spooled up. The network system thread is put on on a parked core, your'e f'n dead in game. Its like playing on 100ms server. Windows sucks on hybrid CPUs. Damn, 30k pc and i've given up been giving me the same performance one day to the next. And yes ram is stable at 7800Mhz through Karhu, memtest and all the others.. The Msi bios is plagued by bugs if you use the advanced features like V/f curves, partly hyperthreading etc, use some ecores. The ram latency explodes if you use more than 4 ecores. Why arent noone talking about this major downside with hybrid cpu. OK, you think Amd is better think again.. Going to 2nd. ccx the latency is insane so you cant play Pubg on that activated. On my expensive Msi board you never know if the bios does its own thing or respects youre settings. The Pch chip overheats so badly that the usb cuts out, great! WTF msi? The latest 9th bios that somewhat works is still in beta version after all this time, and somehow this is acceptable on a 500usd board?
@siberionhusky92255 ай бұрын
If yer running AMD, you'd either be using the 7800X3D (no second CCD to deal with)..or just using Process Lasso to run the games on the 3D V-Cache CCD of the 7950X3D (all other processes on regular CCD). Suppose you could see if Process Lasso helps with yer 14900K any or even see if the core parking in Windows 11 improves anything (assuming yer running Win 10). Maybe even disable the E cores for gaming-only usage?
@Greez13375 ай бұрын
Thermalright coolers are awesome. Rocking the 280mm on my 13700k. My Chip only turns them fans when doing shader compilation. Super quiet and cool (40-50C Average) while gaming at 5.6ghz All core P- cores. Would definitely go for the 360 if i was a madlad and nabbed an i9.
@AronHallan5 ай бұрын
19:47 So cute, Lila right?
@Infernalfury5 ай бұрын
Try ek nucleus 360mm
@dennythescar80s85 ай бұрын
Intel did a crap CPU like this back in the Pentium era when they try to beat an AMD CPU having better clocks and performance. Intel is a big piece of crap company, thy always was.
@toonnut15 ай бұрын
Have you seen the "intel fail safe" setting in the new asus. Bios it slams upto 1.7v into the cpu 😂 thats criminal 😂😂
@zerzes5 ай бұрын
Package at 300W.
@peterfalkner44365 ай бұрын
My asus strix z690-f, old style hi150 capellix 93c 14900k 6.2, 3 cores 6.1 to 6 rest of pcores cores using INTEL XTU 41687 multi core score R23 you can cool 14900k if you get a good cpu. Lucky in cpu lottery
@aVesela3_14cka5 ай бұрын
Maaaaaan!!! Look at video from Talon's man he fix it finaly good job from both of you
@falmatrix2r5 ай бұрын
Please arrow lake…be good
@luism81305 ай бұрын
14900k/s are pointless products.
@namd35 ай бұрын
Fixing shit Intel chip design
@Cereal_Killr5 ай бұрын
So why would you want this over a 7800X3D say? I'm newer and don't know it all, butI don't see where the near double power draw comes in... maybe outside of mainly gaming. They are near identical in benches are they not?
@OdinAlgeron5 ай бұрын
amdips, worse 1%, worse minimums, worse draw times, worse work flows wimps out a lot sooner on gpu's
@InnocentiusLacrimosa5 ай бұрын
Both are great CPUs. Right now high end Intels seem to require manual setting of frequencies and voltages in BIOS though.
@OdinAlgeron5 ай бұрын
@@InnocentiusLacrimosa correct, intels require some tweaking but the gains in performance leave all other options in the dust its not even close
@iDeparture5 ай бұрын
@@OdinAlgeronI've not tested how much better an intel 1% is on say a 7800x3d but ocing your ram (regardless of the cpu) drastically improves 1% lows at 1080p 1440p and 2160p. xmp and expo profiles are just shit in terms of preformace.
@iDeparture5 ай бұрын
@@OdinAlgeronYeah that's the thing you never see a comparison with an 13/14th vs x3d with the Intel bios settings properly tuned and an allcore oc and fast Hynix memory kit overclocked it's always stock setting's which most don't do intel and amd users they just plug and play but idk about blown away but it's absolutely not whats 99% if benchmark comparison show.
@chrissoucy19975 ай бұрын
Roman from Der8auer tried his own Mycro Direct Die block on the 14900KS with liquid metal and it was performing really well
@PointingLasersAtAircraft5 ай бұрын
But did it throttle?
@diony995 ай бұрын
@@PointingLasersAtAircraft no but whats to note is that one core did hit mid 90s. i assume though that was a bad mount
@xdi17335 ай бұрын
Derbauers direct die performance was incredible. He had it fully unleashed at 6GHz and it was like 60c full load. I've never seen performance like that. Was at 1.525v. and only costs 140 for the RGB version.
@xdi17335 ай бұрын
@@nichronos yea I believe it's the equivalent of three 360mm rads which is what I'm running triple rads.
@austinmcbride71395 ай бұрын
I think you missed the plot. This video is about AIO cooling specifically. Custom loop is obviously going to be better
@NBWDOUGHBOY5 ай бұрын
I love the way you interact with your cat. I had a cat too he was a Good boy as well.
@jones77wrx5 ай бұрын
My i9 13900k dropped 20c in Cinebench(stock) with a Aric Freezer III 420mm AIO and a KtyoSheet. The upgrade was because the rig was too loud on the desktop with an EK 360mm AIO. It never crashed and temps in games were fine. My other i9 13900k rig did do the game crashing thing but I was using a Silverstone 360mm AIO. I replaced the Silverstone with a EK 360mm and no more crashing. This build is under a desk so it will not get the 420mm upgrade. The down side to the 420mm is that it did not fit in any of my mid tower cases so I bought an Lian Li 011 EVO XL. The XL is fantastic but pricy.
@tommypearson92605 ай бұрын
With all due respect a 420m-AIO is the only solution for these chips regardless of brand. Anything else is a waste of time.
@KiSs0fd3aTh5 ай бұрын
No, not really. A 420mm AIO will give you 2% more performance running Cinebench loops over just a single tower aircooler. Unless you are running benchmarks, overkill cooling is useless, since CPUs don't gain much performance no matter how much you keep cranking up voltages and power draw. I've been scoring 41500 in CBR23 on a 13900k and a single tower air cooler @ 85c no problem.
@tommypearson92605 ай бұрын
@@KiSs0fd3aTh Bro I'm talking locked cores not Boosting. Boosting cores will have a curve to follow locked cores don't. I'm running 5.8Ghz all core 4.7ghz E-cores with a 420m corsair H170i and contact frame max wattage 370w scoring well over 42k No thermal throttle 87c at best with 7600mhz ram 14900k my 13900k does much better at that speed crazy how that happens
@fwixgamer47965 ай бұрын
@@tommypearson9260 single rad 360 with good fans push pull can cool up to 1.2k of heat in a 22° room temperature , the problem is the IHS contact not the watercooler , bigger rad can help in a hot room like 35° if you don't have AC on in a hot country like Morocco , but in the case of modern cpus just put a direct waterblock with liquid metal and litlle bit of sanding for the die and you can get 70 ° with 140m rad push pull vs a 420mm rad :d
@eliadbu5 ай бұрын
not going to change much, if you want to cool this CPU, only direct die is the solution, 360 rad will do just fine and you can even use AIO like the EK nucleolus direct die. the problem is - IHS even lapped one are just another barrier for the heat to pass, the heat density is just too high to cool it with IHS on.
@tommypearson92605 ай бұрын
@@fwixgamer4796 Reason why i even said this is because i am using a H170i with contact frame and thermal grizzly 250c paste i didn't lap or direct die my cpu i stay below 90c full load @5.8ghzPcores 4.7Ghz E-cores If i do direct die i will for sure be going over 400w with higher overclocks i am good
@ALph4cro5 ай бұрын
How about you start talking about i9 stability issues? 🤡🤡🤡
@m41c0ml1n35 ай бұрын
He wont, doesnt fit his narrative of "intel makes the fastest gaming cpu's"😂
@weroliera5 ай бұрын
BRo that beard looks incredible gg
@radugrigoras5 ай бұрын
That frozen notte at 60$ is a killer deal, that leaves you lotsa money to replace the fans with some nice noctuas and still be under the price of the Arctic. Plus maybe get some PTM7950 on there instead of paste.
@connor0406065 ай бұрын
Funny, I just picked up a Mystique 360 and a 14900KS paired with the Z790 APEX and some DDR5 8000 ram. Took a little while, and some tuning, but I set an all core 5.9ghz, and a power cap on the short and long term duration to 275w. Games have been running great, even the ones that hit the shader comp hard. Before the cap, I was not crashing but I saw 340W of package power at 101c. INSANE. As far as the upload issue, I believe this issue is currently being worked on, keep an eye out for an update on the software!
@Greez13375 ай бұрын
Imagine if MOBO's weren't so aggressive, or if Intel had some more enforcement on bioses that shipped. They would save themselves so much face... But much like Radeon, Intel doesn't seem to care about scoring easy wins.
@papasmurf55985 ай бұрын
I actually have the same exact set up. Had a 13900K in the Z790 Apex with G Skill 8,000 ram with a Kraken Elite 360 cooler in push pull. The 14900KS was running fine how I had it set up for about 3 days then everything went to shit. Direct X crashes, blue screens, then the system wouldn't even let me boot into windows, even after I cleared the CMOS many times. I even downclocked my Ram at one point thinking it was the culprit. Then I tried to reset the system to an earlier set point, and it would still crash. In the end I think I must have corrupted some files trying to get it to boot and it would just hard crash and go Straite to bios and crash trying to get to windows. I eventually had to buy a new hard drive and download windows from the cloud and put my 13900K back in. I tried so many variations of bios settings, even downclocking the CPU to 5.6 5.7, but I had already screwed something up and it wouldn't run it. I might play with it again, but only if I water block it and go that route. No point even having it if you can't run it around 6.0ghz. How it ran for 3 days before it started crashing is a mystery to me also. I was actually running it on AI Overclock settings with all limits removed and some other settings raised higher to keep it from tripping. But it failed with Direct X crashes first, then blue screens and no boot to windows at all so I had to give up. I would love to get it running eventually because I spent the money on it. I really need to go ahead and start water cooling my stuff but just haven't gotten into that yet. Glad you got it working though, because not too many people have got it stable enough to run it.
@connor0406065 ай бұрын
That is wild! AI OC has a tendencay to blast voltages to an unsafe level. Did you happen to see what your VCORE max was during that time? I have seen some overclocks, especially memory cause windows corruption to the point of needing a reinstall, but thats pretty rare.
@redclaw726665 ай бұрын
@@-Highlander-42lol since when he got free stuff?
@LarryPutski5 ай бұрын
So I guess the AMD dip is not so bad after all
@papasmurf55984 ай бұрын
Update to the crashing 13th and 14th gen CPUs. I got both my 13900K and 14900KS chips running great on 360mm AIOs. Following Intel's advice and using some of their settings and some of my own, I'm running my 14900KS just fine except for another problem that nobody's talking about. I'm talking COD games and Blizzard. I set my CPU up to where its running at 5.9 to 6.0 on 8 P-Cores and 38 on the E-Cores because really don't need them for gaming, but still want them to run background things so didn't disable them. what I found is that Blizzard software will analyze your system settings when you try to boot up into a COD game and if it thinks your set up is not going to run the game you will get Direct Issue crashes over and over. Even though temps are perfect it might crash your game. What I did was rebooted into bios. Reset everything to stock and then went back and loaded up COD and it let me in the game because it accepted my stock settings. The Blizzard Software will remember that you successfully got into the game so that's when you go back into the bios and crank everything back up to where you want them. I'm talking about on the cutting edge. and then go back and boot into COD. It doesn't notice the change and will let you boot up your games. but it you crash due to high temps or an unstable overclock you will have to go back into bios and reset everything again to get back into the game. Just do it once and then you can start overclocking it again. I did it many times to figure it out and it works. I'm boosting to 6.2 gigs on several cores with a Kraken 360 mm radiator and temperatures are not exceeding 85C and that's only for a second or two then it comes back down. Note, I cannot run Cinebench and get all the way through but can run all COD games with no problem. Just don't push it too high and don't run all core. Run your cores by usage only. 6.1 6.0 6.0 5.9 etc. I have all the bios settings I use if anybody wants them that has a 14900KS or regular 14900K.
@5michael55 ай бұрын
🤣
@KenzieNakamura5 ай бұрын
Great channel bought built my first pc after watching your videos a few months ago :) Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 keeps my AMD Ryzen 7 7700X @5,75GHZ under 75 celsius without making much noise/no crazy power draw ;o
@fernandom50705 ай бұрын
If I understood correctly, the thermal limits that Intel CPUs apply to 14900 are not working properly ... If they were , they will stop it from crashing ... Right ? Intel has gone nuts with voltage last couple of generations .
@dktha5 ай бұрын
Useless CPU unless you put it under chiller or some exotic cooling. 14900K is far more manageable and shouldn't run unlimited power on that either. I have 14900K SP103+14900KF SP97 and 14900KS SP105 was the worst of them, throttling like crazy when power limited. Also required hefty voltage (+60mV) when compared all those chips at the same static clocks. Well, I like my Ryzen 7900 non-X 65W (actually ~88W)...
@BasicBeach895 ай бұрын
Just tell me which bundle we need to buy 😂😂😂
@calebleuciuc6705 ай бұрын
had an issue with my i9 14900k with a asus board. It would boost that thing to the MAX. constant thoteling and would heat up my room so fast. Ended up undervolting it and dropping the clock speeds a bit. No more heating. maintains a temp around 80-90 c full load and only minimal performance drop
@oboozeee30145 ай бұрын
I’ve cooled my 13900ks with 280/360 LiquidFreezer II. No problems. Edit i used to play WZ too at the time without issues.
@robertlewis86085 ай бұрын
Wish you threw the EK Nucleus Lux/Dark/White 360 into the mix.
@TheMagicCatQ5 ай бұрын
I was gonna write the same stuff :)
@B3TR0Z5 ай бұрын
No RGB fans is a positive if you ask me.
@jankees40375 ай бұрын
Just fine tune the Intel, then it is the best CPU monster out there. People just plug a cooler on a CPU with stock settings BIOS and then say it is running hot. So amateuristic. Learn your BIOS options, become professional, then you notice the 14900KS is the nicest jewel in the world to have. I myself have a 13700K and it is such a great CPU, not taking much energy, nor becoming very hot. Because I know BIOS options very well.
@Gamer-sq8vc5 ай бұрын
SuperCool Direct Die with a Hardware Labs GTR 360 rad (HwL GTR series is the highest performance rad in the industry) with at least 3x Phanteks T30 fans, if not 6x (push/pull). With that setup, I've seen 14900K, not even KS, run Cinebench stable at 6.1 (or 6.2, can't remember) GHz all-core, e-cores OC'd high too, and with p-cores only in the 80-85 degree mark.
@aelaan125 ай бұрын
I have the frozen notte, and it works perfectly fine, I do have a frame on mine from DerBauer, but it is not delidded. I see some spikes into the 85 range, not overclocked at the moment, just seeing if this motherboard can handle the new addition.
@mattyj3095 ай бұрын
@framechasers, did you test the AIO's 100% out-of-the-box default settings, or did you configure a fan and pump curve?
@heyguyslolGAMING5 ай бұрын
I will buy that cat portait painting for $1,000,000. Send me an invoice.
@boldfugur40994 ай бұрын
had a 14900ks couldnt even stay in the bios how unstable it was from 600 series board to 7. refunded that pos immediately 13600kf is just as good for 90% what people wanna do, wont bottle neck current GPUs the 5k series not counted as specs not available i dont think
@dragondaddidev58982 ай бұрын
I understand your video but come on really cini bench is a stress test ment to push cpus to there max when your playing games the games dont hit ur cpu as hard it all depends on what the person buying the cpu is doing with it test it again but just with games or rendering videos or some other work stuff and there will be a difference in the temperatures
@ceespolhout24395 ай бұрын
With the big GPU’s and thus bigger cases and also the enormous amount of cooling modern day CPU’s need I would really like to see 420mm aio’s compared. I feel like we’re at a point where 420mm should really be the go to for high end cpu’s
@bobbybandz91942 ай бұрын
Just recieved the Mystique 360 for $140 shipped from Ebay thanks to US sanctions 😅
@olympusbarsfitness73945 ай бұрын
Can you test the lian li performance aio please 🙏🏻 ❤
@MrSTROM265 ай бұрын
can you please test lian li trinity perfomance ?
@SebaztienHawke-ci5hm14 күн бұрын
15:37 It’s 5 megabytes for images
@BurkeSchneider5 ай бұрын
Would a 420mm AIO perform any better?
@iDeparture5 ай бұрын
yeah they do give better temps but most mid towers can't fit them. For reference on how much better pretty sure GN has a vid on the freezer ii 360mm and compares it to the 420mm rad. just snagged a liquid freezer iii 420 (non rgb) for 90-100 usd. last gen worked great, i had no problem cooling an all core oc 12/13th/14th gen in my experience. their customer service is great too
@RafaelSilva-yv3oh5 ай бұрын
Kitty at the end is always based!!
@michaelsn86733 ай бұрын
Hahahahahhahahaa, everyone with a brain switched to AMD, i switched to AMD after 20 years of intel only... ... Everyone except you, hahahahahahhahahaha... You cant even run r23
@redclaw726663 ай бұрын
I can tell you don't play games lmao 🤡
@insertnamehere44195 ай бұрын
Buying Intel these days smh
@drneisi61713 ай бұрын
Hair is looking good again broski
@NathanOakley19805 ай бұрын
Based on past videos, these chips “don’t scale past 5.1, 5.2ghz” so why run 6.0 I have upgraded from a 12th gen i9 to a 14th gen and turned it right down, disabled 1/2 the e cores. Now it uses no more than 150w and 80/90w in games. I tried, and you were right, very little difference as you turn the chip down….or up as you were doing in previous videos.
@numberz0105 ай бұрын
pretty much agree the only real difference I see between 12 and 14 is efficiency, you can get 140-150w on 149 for 5.2ghz while 185ish w on my 12900K
@100500daniel5 ай бұрын
Best use for an RTX A2000 :3
@bucketofampz5 ай бұрын
im looking to build a new PC soon but i dont want to build a heater for the bedroom either, maybe i should go one step down from 14900k? worst case scenerio i could delid i guess
@PointingLasersAtAircraft5 ай бұрын
I have a 12900KS at work that's not fiery like my 13900K at home.
@chaniibak77025 ай бұрын
Could always undervolt/underclock
@radugrigoras5 ай бұрын
Deliding won’t really change the heat output into your room. Just how efficiently it gets there
@bucketofampz5 ай бұрын
@@radugrigoras hmm excellent point, there's no good info on youtube now, back in 2019 was the last time i built a PC, now that i plan on building another one soon, im having real trouble finding good info on the new parts that are on the market
@bucketofampz5 ай бұрын
@@chaniibak7702 I like that idea as well
@thegrimcrimson5 ай бұрын
Wow no way
@AndyPro055 ай бұрын
I think Arctic have bad contact and probably honeywell ptm7950 will do better instead of mx-6.
@crono79905 ай бұрын
I installed my new 14900KS and Asus z790 Dark Hero few days ago. CPU has SP rating 109, P - SP 124 points and E - SP 81 points, MC - SP is 84 points. 7600MT/s seems doable on this Dark Hero motherboard (over 1 hour Karhu stable after one day tweaking). My goal is 8 hour Karhu stable. Maybe 7600MT/s isn't common for this motherboard? I've tweaked some primary, secondary and tertiary timings. I'm just torturing my AIO cooler some days before delidding CPU 😄
@Karm1kal5 ай бұрын
I'm planning on upgrading to i9-14900KS and Asus Z790 Dark Hero along with 96Gb 8000Mhz DDR5 (G.Skill Trident Z5). How does it work with high frequency DDR5 ? Is it stable ? I cannot find other people with such setup to ask.
@crono79905 ай бұрын
@@Karm1kalHey, I am able to get my 2x24gb ram stable @7600mt/s. I had to put one fan blowing to ram sticks inside the case and another fan outside the case pointed ram/cpu back side. I could do a short video about my setup, I add link here if I do that video. If you use 4 dimm slots, my guess is there's no way to achieve high speed. 2x48 maybe, I don't know.. it becomes more challenging more ram you have I think. Of course your motherboard/cpu/ram have to support good ram speed too, all parts are individual with different speeds. 8000mt/s speed is meant mostly to 2 dimm slot motherboard. I tried 7800mt/s but got error in few seconds, so I gave up that speed right away. I had to adjust a lot of voltages to get that 7600mt/s stable, so it's not easy just plug and play
@Karm1kal5 ай бұрын
@@crono7990 I see - thank you for the reply! :)
@adriannasyraf35343 ай бұрын
if you lap it, wouldn't that create gaps in between your IHS and cold plate?
@club4ghz2 ай бұрын
Liquid metal no lap would be more effective, and you don't have to replace it until your cooler dies.
@PETRAKOV1Ай бұрын
Did U test LIAN LI GALAHAD II TRINITY PERFORMANCE 360? its better for all this wich U have in this video.
@meow6023Ай бұрын
I can vouch for the Galahad 2 trinity performance. I have it on my 14900KS and it peaks at 68C at 253W and 78C at 320W. I use 6x Lian li p28s in push/pull at 1500 rpm. No delid, no custom loop. Run around 50-55C in warzone at 59p/46e/50r.
@PETRAKOV1Ай бұрын
@@meow6023 Sound supper for me I will looking to buy it. Do You have any problem with the pump? I saw in internet the people complain from the pump. How long time U use the cooler? And which revision U have? There is the new revison with new type of pump
@meow6023Ай бұрын
@@PETRAKOV1 I have only been using for one week. It is a fairly quiet cooler for me.
@kyle7345335 ай бұрын
I been running a i9 12900k with some crashing issues
@RadeonRX5 ай бұрын
Get AMD
@powkung455 ай бұрын
AMDip, Intelcrash?
@satyanarayankhamokariya5649Ай бұрын
A1
@SinisterDev855 ай бұрын
I just recently got the 14900ks. It is definitely a spicy cpu,but not totally unmanageable! In my tuning thus far I've found that I can keep the temps under control, even with Asus MCE enabled, so long as I set power limits in accordance with Intel's Extreme Power Profile. So, amps limited to 400 and watts limited to 320. Im using Corsair's H170i LCD Link in a push/pull config with QX fans. I experience thermal throttling after hitting 350+ watts. But seem to be ok within the 320 watt limit.
@550F21CEMO5 ай бұрын
got the MSI godlike z790/14900KS with a 420 aio, its a fucking inferno… damn. Even my 13900KS is cooler on a 320, my 13700KF is the coolest on a 280, damn
@david552003 ай бұрын
To gain 10°C, you need to buy a water cooling system with 3 fans and a 240 radiator. You buy 3 additional fans and you will attach them above the radiator. These fans should bring fresh air directly onto the radiator from above. The other fans need to be reversed and set to exhaust the heat inside the machine. This will significantly increase the airflow, making the cooling more effective. The hot air sent inside the machine should be extracted by the front fans of the case towards the outside. With this method, I gained 10°C with a 120 water cooling system with 2 fans originally on my 9900X which went up to 97°C overclocked to 4700. It dropped to 87°C under heavy use and to 70°C in-game. Try this :)
@groanhammer2825 ай бұрын
Thank you for these videos. I gotta say that once I bought my new PC last year after watching gazillion reviews, all my interest to hardware stuff faded, which is natural. But your videos are just fantastic and your measurement methods are very well thought out and put together. Maybe, if you want, you can increase your production value to attract new viewers and/or customers - but this is definitely top notch.
@danbiohack53535 ай бұрын
This is the video I need, this things run sooo hot. Can't even launch dragons dogma and recompile shaders without hitting 100c. Have lowered my max to 90c by lowering my wattage to 200 though. Can't seem to control volts with my msi b760 tomahawk. Just has a offset for pcm or cpu + or - on each. Thinking I need to change it for a z790 and upgrade from my h100i capelix elite cooler, please let me know what you think. I'm used to my old 6900k with x99deluxe mobo, never got anywhere near these temps
@chrispittmanComputing5 ай бұрын
I have a Frozen Prism 360 by Thermal right and it works great. Thermalright makes some of the best price to performance coolers. The Thermal Assissan X120 is the best budget air cooler for 125 watt or less CPUs.
@dianaalyssa87265 ай бұрын
You explained what the issue is way better than most articles I read about it. Am still on 12900KF but these issues kinda have me thinking of waiting to upgrade.
@Dom_Mason5 ай бұрын
The Frozen Notte for $60 is my choice. Cheap and does the job. Might change out one of my systems from air cool to it. Thanks!
@nksnikos16055 ай бұрын
The best 360 aio ?
@DannyDDeMaio5 ай бұрын
What about the Corsair ICUE LINK H150i LCD? Could it performance well?
@xSKOOBSx5 ай бұрын
Doesn't come with ARGB fans? Isn't that a benefit?
@FIVESTRZ5 ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of the Artic LF III, loved the LF II though... I kinda wish I didn't sell my DeepCool LT 720 for it, that thing minus the extra RGB cable, claims 300W TDP and kept it about 2-5C more cool than this. I think it's for the contact frame though rather than the actual cooler
@iDeparture5 ай бұрын
yeah getting a good Mount with it can be annoying (over tightened to where pc won't post is very ez to do too)compared to a the normal aftermarket contact frame but im sure Arctic will improve this tho
@FIVESTRZ5 ай бұрын
@@iDeparture hope they offer a free replacement when they do.
@iDeparture5 ай бұрын
@@FIVESTRZ i was literally gunna mention that and forgot. Wouldn't surprise me if they did as they did before last gen with a defect they found and told GN and probably others i just know they made GN aware for a fact to get the word out so people would know, then sent everyone affected the new upgraded model and also with i think Rev 3 of the freezer ii upgraded/compatibility issueswith am4 and 12th gen brackets/back plate they'd send you for free. They're customer service has been great in my experience.
@retrosimon98434 ай бұрын
The Fans on the Freezer 3 are holding it back
@PokeStoryHarry5 ай бұрын
Some AIOs are tuned for Intel, pump direction matters too Intel should bundle cpu with AC and ear plug tho ;)