Françoise Marie De Bourbon - Louis XIV's Daughter With De Montespan

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you for observant viewers who found two errors in my video. First of all, Louis XV was Louis XIV's great grandson of course, and it was Louis XV who married Maria Leszczyńska, not Louis XIV. I spend a lot of time writing the texts and editing the videos, and sadly small mistakes do slip in from time to time, especially because I have no editor who can check my work before publishing. I have added correction cards and apologize for the inconveniences. Thanks to the observant viewers for pointing out the inaccuracies !

[@jacquesrenou2850]

Thanks for all you do,your videos bring me great joy,I always look forward to them as well as learning my history and that of some of my ancestors.Your videos are appreciated and look forward to many more.🙂💙

[@latifamiah5742]

Your videos are awesome!

[@jennyknepper]

To err is human; to edit is divine!

[@johnvonundzu2170]

A small grammatical correction: Francoise Marie spent her time lying on her sofa, not laying on it! This is an error committed constantly by millions of native English speakers every day of the week, so don't worry about it too much! (But it is nice to be right.)

[@cindyaraya7317]

The Kings of France, May I ask, where are you from?

[@robertpizor577]

Thank you for putting more effort into this video about Francoise-Marie than Francoise-Marie put into her own life apparently.

[@Heothbremel]

Lol

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Haha thank you Robert !

[@Isabella2335.]

😂😂😂

[@--enyo--]

🤣

[@BloodSweatandFears]

Hah!

[@JessyNyan]

honestly her life sounds like a dream. Being rich, not doing anything all day but marrying her kids off to royalty and money while just chilling. And then just living 26 years in some idyllic country estate after your unpleasant husband died...she had it all

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thanks for watching jessica !

[@marinazagrai1623]

Jessica...her life was anything but a dream. They lived everyday with the fear of being sent somewhere instead of staying at Versailles. They lived on the whims of the vain king. This kissing up to the king was hard work - this networking was sensitive and often did not lead to desired outcome.

[@RowanWarren78]

Jessica, it may be interesting to you to read about pregnancy and birth during that era. The portraits and stories of affluence and wealth make it sound better than it was. Being a woman wasn't always easy. You had no autonomous rights and 1/4 women would die during childbirth or shortly after.

[@andocs163]

A historical sugar baby

[@hardyquinn9442]

@@RowanWarren78 Agreed. child birth was a bloody, no pun intended, nightmare. Plus the court drama and the fear of being cast off or re married sounds pretty shitty to me. However, compared to some others around that time she didn't have it so bad. Thats just by comparison though...

[@andyroo9381]

My head spins at how complicated these royal lines are. I'm so impressed by your knowledge and ability to keep it all clear and concise.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you so much Andy, I'm happy you're enjoying my videos. Happy New Year !

[@deepjeetsen7228]

@@TheKingsofFrance Louis XIV was succeeded by his 5 year old great-grandson Louis XV, not grandson (as mentioned at 4:08). His elder grandson Louis, Duke of Burgundy, Dauphin of France already passed away before his grandfather.

[@whispersinthedark88]

@@TheKingsofFrance out of curiosity is it harder to track the noble families of France post Revolution since so many went under ground, sometimes taking common names and living among the lower classes?

[@louisxiv631]

Thank you for making a video about my legitimised and rather indolent daughter, Françoise. She didn't really do much, but she IS family, so that counts for something, I suppose 😂 thanks again.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you your highness ... Always happy to see you here.

[@Isabella2335.]

🤣

[@tiffanyferguson829]

🤣😭

[@plamenivanov92]

Your only mistake was that you send your son Vermandois to live whit your brother Monseiur

[@catiescobar8990]

your highness, fancy seeing you here!

[@Sailrjup12nh]

I often wonder how Queens felt about mistresses’ offspring. It’s one thing to know your husband is cheating on you (even thought it was somewhat normal) but to see kids running around court would definitely hurt.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

I doubt they were happy about it, but Kings were supposed to have mistresses to prove they were virile. Thank you for watching.

[@Sailrjup12nh]

@@TheKingsofFrance thanks for reply. Loved the video.

[@ledam2654]

Especially when they tried to pursue the ranks of the legitimate heirs

[@marinazagrai1623]

Sail...queens weren't exactly happy, but their position was secure since they had noble blood and, most importantly, Catholics couldn't divorce...also marriages were for continuing the blood line and maintaining the position at court. Modern marriages are world apart from the duties these aristocrats had to endure - they were rich but for love they had to have secret lovers.

[@Sailrjup12nh]

@@marinazagrai1623 yes. I do know that.

[@MarinaKaFai]

In a way, being "lazy" is what might have allowed her to have a "normal" life and to be forgiven when she was thought to have conspired.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

That could well be ! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.

[@beastshawnee]

She was probably anemic.

[@lilMissF0F0]

Hmmmm for some reason her lifestyle reminded me of Marie Antoinette. I think Antoinette wanted the same life Francoise led, she wanted to be unbothered, busy with the small circle of people she loved, enjoying building her houses, playing Harpsichord and die in peace like Francoise.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

quite possibly so. Thank you for watching.

[@redadmiralofvalyria867]

I FIND it COMPLETLY ironic that SHE lived a quiet life WITHOUT scandal (unlike her mother)

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you for watching and commenting Monica, I appreciate it !

[@redadmiralofvalyria867]

@@TheKingsofFrance if anything it's good that YOU'RE making the videos, I can tell you did proper research & paid exclusively to design 👏 😉 👍 😀 😄 👏 😉 (glad someone focuses on the children) even thought she had a "calm life" it's still very intriguing

[@CJVS995]

She probably learned from her mother and decided that a quiet life of comfort was the best choice.

[@dustin628]

Thank you so much for making this channel! I absolutely love French history; especially the ancien régime. Unfortunately, in the US, the only French history we learn is a tiny bit of Louis the 14th.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

I'm glad you're enjoying my content Dustin, much more to come but also about Kings prior to Louis XIV, I hope you'll enjoy that content as well.

[@vishnukanagalingam1991]

I love this channel so much. I love French history (especially about Versailles and the figures related to that place). This channel is such a wonderful platform to learn. Thank you so much for all the well-made videos that you post. May God bless you and this channel. I hope you don't mind if I request a video about the Duchess of Berry. I always found her to be an interesting historical figure.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Do you mean Marie Caroline De Bourbon ? That can definitely be arranged.

[@vishnukanagalingam1991]

@@TheKingsofFrance Yes, thank you so much 🙏

[@christinemiller8158]

Excellent as always! Merci 🌸!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Merci à toi Christine !!

[@marifenablo5330]

This is a perfect channel for me, I really like French history

[@TheKingsofFrance]

I'm glad you are enjoying my channel !

[@luvzfrance24]

I can't imagine the urge to just constantly lying on a couch all day long surrounded by ugly people. I know that couch was not comfortable either lol. Awesome video. Thanks for sharing!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank YOU for watching !

[@hiworld7306]

It's sad to see how she suffered at hands of her husband and mother in law just because she was born out of wedlock even though she was legitimized if there wasn't her Philippe would not have been able to marry king's daughter. If Louis only had children with his wife his 'legitimate' daughters would have married other princes of Europe. I hate Madame Palatine 😒, and It's giving me more reason to do so. As always your video is great thank for this I have always wanted to know more about Louis's illegitimate children.❤👏👍

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank YOU for watching, I'm very grateful for your support !

[@carolinpurayidom4570]

I would not hate anyone as it is murder in the heart however by the sounds of it she does deserve it.

[@hiworld7306]

@@carolinpurayidom4570 no-one deserves to be abused by one in laws .

[@antwonkole6642]

Palatine was a sweetheart in Versailles, sad that if she really did what she did in real life.

[@venus_envy]

Hate her father too, for being a lecherous cheating scrote.

[@andromeda331]

Thank you for doing a video on her.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank YOU for watching !

[@SIERRATREES]

Thank you so much - this is so interesting to me... all your research to bring these stories to light is much appreciated. I saw one of her daughters went into a life of religion, and that to me , especially if you were introverted, would seem a good alternative ; a quiet life of reflection and prayer versus the flighty life of royal court intrigue.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you so so much !

[@marcus8258]

I could watch these videos all day! Thank you:-)

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank YOU for watching Marcus !

[@donnaneargarder1557]

Please look into 2 of my ancestors, whom were also relevant to France at this time - Charlotte Corday, & Jacque Legardeur de St. Pierre - Thank you for all your work, time, & effort, & have a very blessed day! 😊

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you Donna ! I'll see what I can do !

[@FerrariCarr]

Great video, but there’s an error at 5:24 by saying Louis XIV married Maria Leszczyńska when she was married to Louis XV.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

I'm so sorry... I'll check and correct !

[@williamknox9087]

@@TheKingsofFrance Do not apologize. Such faux pas let you know that your listeners are paying attention.

[@madhuchhandaghosh5542]

Always look forward to your videos. Please continue with the good work.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

I really appreciate you saying this, thank you so much for watching and being here !!!

[@ambreeniram2268]

Thank you so much for the great video. French history is so fascinating.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank YOU so much for watching !

[@clarisemahinay7562]

I love listening to this french accent ♥️♥️♥️

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you for watching and commenting ! I really appreciate it !

[@TheTmvf]

Love your videos as usual! Thank you for another upload. At 5:25 I think you meant Louis XV, instead of Louis XIV.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Yes, so sorry for the mistake, i'll try to rectify through a card.

[@beth7935]

Very interesting to hear about another person who's barely a footnote in history! Illegitimacy is really interesting too (& REALLY complicated!), especially royal or noble illegitimate children cos of the contradictions in their status, & the confusion that causes, & cos they might be important enough for the monarch to change their legal status somehow. Like with Francoise-Marie tho, often their _social_ status still isn't equal to someone born legitimate.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

And after the fall of her mother, the legacy of the Montespan must've been carried by the children as well...

[@beth7935]

@@TheKingsofFrance Yeah, it’s totally unfair 🙁 It was like that with everything though- if someone did something wrong, their whole family suffered for it…. I mean duh, nobles were executed in the Revolution for being from a noble family (I had a specific English example in my head, ofc, but I managed a very general French one! 😂)

[@nancycampbell8671]

What an interesting video. I'm not very familiar with the French court. Do we know if her "laziness" modified after the death of her husband or as her position in court waned?

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Hi Nancy, I have not read about any change in her personality after, so I guess she remained an inactive person even after her husband's death. Thank you for watching.

[@nancycampbell8671]

@@TheKingsofFrance thank you for the answer.

[@lilyofthevalley5586]

Thank you so much for this video! 🌞I am indebted to you. More about my family! I miss France. Wish I was back; but with Covid and things happening. No. I don't think I will ever be able to go there again. 😔

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Yes you will, Covid won't last forever (I hope)... You'll go back, keep positive thoughts !

[@lilyofthevalley5586]

@@TheKingsofFrance Thank you so much for those uplifting words.

[@blutterfishful]

I love your channel. Can you add English subtitles?

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you so much for watching and commenting !

[@regnbuetorsk]

french people speaking english sound like little curls and stylized flowers 😄

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you so much !

[@beastshawnee]

Choice of baby names: Girls names-choose 3 in any order: Francoise Marie Charlotte Elizabeth Anne Louise Louisa Boy names-pick one: Louis

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you for watching !

[@ShallowApple22]

Madame de Montespan is literally my spirit animal and also maybe my most toxic trait 😜

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Lol ! Thanks for watching ! PS - love your nickname ! Super funny.

[@Firstname137]

Could you please do one of Carlota of Mexico? It is also rumored that she haunts the place

[@kenna163]

I hope this doesn't make me sound dumb but how is she an illegitimate daughter if she's legitimised

[@TheKingsofFrance]

She was the daughter of the mistress of Louis XIV. So at birth, she was illegitimate, even though the king legalised her.

[@Heothbremel]

I would love to be a fly on the wall for what they chatted about while they lounged.....❤

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Probably loads of court gossip... Thank you for watching !!!

[@michellebruce5092]

Awesome live history video I enjoyed it. Your videos are always enjoyable and relaxing. Could you do Marco Polo. He was an history explorer in the 12th century. Have a great day see you next video. If I find any history suggestions I'll let you know in the future. Greetings from Canada 😀

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Good suggestion ! I'll put him on my list !

[@sirruadhri3316]

Another excellent video!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you so much for watching !

[@plamenivanov92]

Same goes for Richard III his enemies portrait him as a hunchback but he actually had a case of scoliosis like Françoise Marie and Louis Cesar

[@mw6267]

Still it was visible and made him look like a goblin. And a killer goblin he was

[@plamenivanov92]

@@mw6267 Probably, but I'm a Ricardian.

[@bornontherimofchaos]

May not of been love in the marriage, but there was plenty of something going for all those kids being born!!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Producing heirs was not only important for the bloodline, but a marriage could be ended if no offspring was produced...

[@thewitchsfamiliar]

So from a former bastard line came a rather illustrious lineage... Not bad for someone who is considered lazy and deliberately picked ladies with unfortunate countenances.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you very much for watching !

[@mimfi]

Thank you so much! You don't learn these things from history books

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank YOU for watching !

[@barnabyrt1012]

Very interesting, fascinating 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Glad you liked it.

[@plamenivanov92]

will you do a video about Isabelle de Ludres she wanted to be Louis Mistress but he would not leave Montespan for her

[@TheKingsofFrance]

If you wish I'll put her on the list. It might take a while though.

[@plamenivanov92]

@@TheKingsofFrance do you know the names of any of the victims of The Affair of the poisons

[@TheKingsofFrance]

@@plamenivanov92 I have a video about it coming up in a few weeks.

[@plamenivanov92]

@@TheKingsofFrance so to sum up the only Legitime you haven't yet talked about is Louise Françoise am I correct

[@dannybeun948]

Txs for the info great job 👌

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you very much Danny !

[@simonscowled9925]

Hate each other but produced 8 children!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thanks for watching and commenting !

[@marycaine8874]

Ah, I was so close! Not Marie Anne but her half sister, Francois Marie.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Indeed ! Thank you for watching !

[@plamenivanov92]

Louis François de Bourbon Louise Dianne 's husband was a grandson of Le Grand Conti

[@waxwing235zcct]

i ove this idea of the princess who spent her life on a sofa!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Worse ways of spending your life.. Thank you for watching !

[@plamenivanov92]

She had scoliosis like her brother Louis Cesar Comte de Vexin just not that severe

[@nyaplays8074]

Love how the subtitles are in Dutch 😂

[@TheKingsofFrance]

KZbin hates me 😞

[@louisxvi2785]

Brilliant video

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you !

[@louisxvi2785]

Could you do louis the pious

[@TheKingsofFrance]

I'm slowly working my way back in time, so i'll get to him for sure !

[@barbararoca6847]

I can't imagine what it would have been like to have La Montespan as my mother. I don't think I would like it!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you for watching and commenting Barbara !

[@Simonjose7258]

What an attractive family 😬

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Lol ! Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@plamenivanov92]

She had scoliosis like her brother Louis Cesar Comte de Vexin but it was not that serious

[@plamenivanov92]

Louise de la Valierre became Louise Françoise Mademoiselle de Nantes's Godmother

[@ludovicleprinceroyal8721]

Being lazy prolongs you life!!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

In that case, where's the couch ? lol ! Thank you for watching.

[@ludovicleprinceroyal8721]

@@TheKingsofFrance You mean canape?

[@reniasva]

49 seconds after uploading - I'm really fast.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Lol yes you are, you're officially first then ! Thank you so much as always !

[@reniasva]

@@TheKingsofFrance I have to thank you😊

[@musiquefrique]

To be fair both for parents were HORRID! I enjoy your videos & you elocution is beautiful!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you so much for your kind compliment !

[@alicewilloughby4318]

Depression? Some energy-sapping physical condition?

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Might be. Thank you for watching !

[@charlottemunday7311]

Chronic fatigue?

[@ginatrobeson8351]

I love how some people think they're so special they give themselves titles😆

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you for watching and commenting Gina !

[@ginatrobeson8351]

@@TheKingsofFrance 💜

[@dpa658]

I think Françoise Marie de Bourbon was INTP

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Perhaps you are right. Thank you for watching.

[@jacquesrenou2850]

Madame Lucifer🤣😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Not too flattering, is it ? Thank you for watching.

[@mimimatasar3699]

Madame couch potato 🥔!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Lovely title ! Thank you for watching !

[@mimimatasar3699]

@@TheKingsofFrance and thank you for making history unbiased , fun and accurate ♥️!

[@grahamlucas5067]

😆 Madame Pomme de Terre!

[@precisiondesignok]

People were so dumb back then

[@louisecoffey9843]

wow they loved the name Louise and Louis lol

[@TheKingsofFrance]

You would've fit in great !!!

[@louisecoffey9843]

@@TheKingsofFrance Indeed lol. Queen Louise :)

[@redadmiralofvalyria867]

Kinda sad Elizabeth disowned both madame & her children, if u don't like her that'd be fine, but turning her back on her own grandchildren is kinda harsh(doesn't sound like the kind women who accepted a few of LOUIE'S BASTARDS, dunno how u can like some, and hate others *especially if their your own grandchildren* )

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts.

[@afroatheist-isnowafroantit6154]

Very interesting. Those names are hard to say. I only know the name,"D'Orleans." New Orleans, Louisiana. 🤭🤭

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Glad you liked it.

[@thomasreghi7052]

Probably hard to determine who's who; all those courtiers moving to and fro in 'cette payee' some authors have called A ROYAL BEEHIVE.

[@cordeliaadams4898]

Maybe she suffered hypothyroidism.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Good point. Thank you for watching Cordelia !

[@latifamiah5742]

Why was she lazy?

[@johntshorter]

She doesn't seem to have any interests or hobbies, and never involved herself in politics, save for that one time. Other than that, she rarely left her couch it appears

[@Kingpowch]

She probably found herself more comfortable doing nothing more than lying on her couch all day. Perhaps, she thought that her position allowed her to rest instead of working... besides, I think she wasn't very bright so that's why she stayed away from politics.

[@greenghoul157]

Ah yes, my ancestor, I think 😂

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thanks for watching and commenting !!

[@honeybunch5765]

Oh well what else was there for her to do other than being lazy, clean, cook?😃

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thank you for watching !

[@hedgiecc]

She sounds like a most unpleasant woman!

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Agreed. Thank you for watching !

[@plamenivanov92]

I believe she gets her alcoholic tendencies from her mother.

[@Nana-vi4rd]

She sounds like a early version of Meghan Markle......lol.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

I honestly don't know anything about Meghan... So I'll leave it up to you to judge haha. Thank you for watching !

[@floraposteschild4184]

In what sense?

[@kareharpies]

Meghan has worked hard her entire life, she made her millions not on tax payer money like other royals. In the 18 months of being a working royal she went on more overseas tours than any royal had ever done. She produced two projects, one which was a cookbook so profitable that to this day she continues to sign checks giving money to refugee shelters in london and another which clothed thousands of woman trying to head back to work after being homeless. She also expanded the queens scholarship program for women in south africa. Fix your lips or dont speak on what you dont know old lady! She didnt sign up to deal with bigotry on a frenzied national level, she signed up to marry her man... and thats still what she has! Now shes running her own foundation, and producing shows. Stay on YOUR couch and mind your lazy business 😒.

[@blackbear4851]

You sound woefully, willfully ignorant, more of the "I don't care how wrong I am, how stupid and backwards I sound and too oblivious to hide it"... no shame, no grounds just let it rip. Did it make your day to make that ridiculous comparison? How does deluding yourself about someone you do not know add to your value? Oh wait, it doesn't... this is why ignorance, hate and bigotry will never die, people are too stupid to be embarrassed. If only your ignorance wasn't such bliss you'd be aware if how pathetically weak it is. Poor gene pool, bet you passed that on to at least four of your double cousins didn't you. Poor moderator Kings of France, I applaud you, you handled that slommet with class, myself- don't have the inclination. Somebody's granma, alledgedly, ha

[@barbaramarrs5113]

Has anyone researched how inbred the French Bourbons are with the Spanish Bourbons.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Thanks for watching Barbara. Personally I haven't looked into it but I'm sure there's information out there to be found.

[@heliedecastanet1882]

With the French Bourbons ? On the Spanish side, none, except Philippe de Parme with Elisabeth de France. On the French side, also none, except Louis de France (Louis XV's son) with Maria Teresa of Spain, but she died soon, as well as their only child who only lived two years. So, the Spanish bourbons were above all inbred with their own cousins of Sicily, Naples and Parma. And all those branches came from the Spanish part of the House of Bourbon, not the French one.

[@nazlsenay7312]

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[@NexusDarkworld338]

Said to be a great beauty. Shows plain girl with double chin. Us: Doubt.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Different times, different beauty standards I suppose... Thank you for watching and commenting !

[@NexusDarkworld338]

@@TheKingsofFrance True, they used to smear poison on their skin and wear lice infested giant wigs, so I can't give their standards on beauty (and healthcare) much respect.